Preston Sprinkle: A Journey Into the LGBTQ+ Conversation [Biola Afterdark Chapel] 

9:00 I'm not sure I agree with this. We seek God's validation, not that of man. It is important to be kind to all people, but sometimes that means doing the thing that they will not perceive as kind. If we define kindness based on the world, we may get stuck affirming unfulfilling lifestyles.

22:50- “no tax collector in Heaven got there because a Christ-follower spelled out the sins of the tax-collector-lifestyle”. Well said, Mr. Sprinkle.

Wow thank you so much for preaching the gospel to a group of people that the church has mostly out casted. While not affirming sin. The balance is beautiful, and hard to find. Luckily my church has that balance. They affirm that homosexuality is sinful, and that’s exactly why the church should be a haven for same sex attracted people. Just like it’s a haven for MY deepest sin - as a straight person.

This guy's intentions are good (I've listened to a few of his podcasts) but he is compromising when it comes to the expounding of the truth. Yes, showing love to those who are hurting and who are confused with same sex attraction is what we as Christians are called to do. There however can be no deviation on the view of God regarding homosexuality.

Thank you for bringing love and humanity to this topic. ❤️

I continue to be challenged and encouraged by Preston and his Podcast-Theology in the raw

This was highly convicting. Thank you.

The desire to sin is sin. If you find yourself with a desire to sin, in anyway, gay, straight or anything in between just repent and live in righteousness and if you fail repent and keep striving for perfection. A good book that helped me a ton on this issue is... "The mortification of sin" by John Owen. Should be a must read for modern western Christians everywhere.

gay attraction is much different than someone who morally feeds into his/her temptation. Jesus saves us from our temptations. Jesus saves us out of darkness and into light.

You can really tell that Preston has a Heart, a LOVING HEART for people struggling with same sex attraction!! That is refreshing since SO Many people who talk about this topic, meaning Christian Pastors, are Self Righteous and NOT Humble!!

as a young gay Christian adult, i appreciate your message Preston. you hold to your beliefs without making me feel like i am lesser

The Bible is clear about it and it’s also clear how we should treat Everyone

God is overjoyed to save those who both repent and believe. You cannot have one without the other. A person who believes without a repentant heart doesn't understand the urgency of John the Baptist when he said "Repent and believe of the kingdom of heaven is at hand." as he prepared the way for Jesus. If someone is a practicing homosexual and a professing Christian is living in a life of rebellion and defiance to a holy and just God. A strong sign of a true believer in Christ is not someone who is without sin or shame, but someone is always repenting of that sin. Now this does not mean that they are unsavable as all are in equal need of forgiveness. But no matter how much you push back the Bible is clear that God condemns homosexuality or any impure person outside the forgiveness of Christ.

Hey Preston! Where did you find the information about the reasons why homosexuals leave the church?

Very interesting I have a lot to think about

I've listened to several of Preston's videos on this subject and he goes beyond love and seems to give a resounding endorsement to what God planned for humanity. I do not look down on you for your struggles and admire your willingness to be celibate. I do believe, however, there is a way out for you. We serve an almighty God. I have known practicing homosexuals who have found Christ, married and had families. I don't often quote Bill Mahr, but if 20.8% of Gen Z's are really LGBTQ, God is cruel or doesn't exist. As Mahr says, "why are most congregated in large coastal metros? There is no logic in that. I hope you find the peace you are looking for.

Preston believes that gays should be chaste and receive love from straights who will pity invite u to dinner.. I've been there and never invited back . Felt pathetic and object of fake kindness

Some Christians hurt my feelings one time, matter of fact, several Christians have hurt my feelings several times, does that make me a better Christian? Does that get me into Heaven? Surely that will wash away my sin?

The speaker is following the philosophy of standpoint epistemology which is a atheistic postmodern philosophy. That is why this speaker sounds so different than Christians who believe the Bible.

We must always ask ourselves as Christians, "Do we want to know if we are wrong"? and "Do we want God to show us our sins"? We should never support sin, period!

Bible clearly states that GOD hates LGBT sin. One main reason GOD burnt Sodom and Gomorrah was beacause of Homosexual sin.

Okay, am I understanding him to say that everyone is born into sin? And that some people’s temptation is same-sex attraction? But Jesus can redeem their lives from the desires of their flesh and help them not live a lifestyle of sin? That’s every Christian’s story. If he’s implying that you can be professing bondage as your identity and also be living under the lordship of Jesus, I take issue with that.

TRUTH IS LOVE.

If I keep referring to the "religious elite" as the enemy, then I get into Heaven, right?

Misquotation. It's "love the person, not the sin." I don't have to hate a person's persona or hate their feelings or anything like that, but I absolutely can't love that what's keeping a person in estrangement to God. And if I hate my own sin for the way that it keeps me estranged from God and before He saved me it was what meant that I belonged in Hell under God's wrath, then I would have to hate the fact that others are suffering under a snare of Satan. It is sheer palatable rhetoric and doesn't truly make sense when we really think about being neutral about anyone's sin. I don't feel disgusted by homosexuality just as I don't always feel loving feelings when I minister. My love is a decision and so is my stance when I pray that a persons sin will be demolished so that they can no longer be a slave to sin.

Preston, of course, always present the truth with love, and yes, we are all sinners, but I would encourage you to read Romans 1:26-28 again, with an open heart and an open mind. It is more compassionate to tell someone the truth than to deceive them to spare their feelings. Only someone who hates the LGBT community would intentionally deceive them into thinking their lifestyle is approved by God, resulting in their destruction.

I've seen stories where God has healed LGBT people from that lifestyle and it's truly inspiring, as Christians I think it's our duty to help lost people find God

I haven’t watched this all the way through yet but I feel inclined to say that- have you ever considered that gay people will only consider you kind of you affirm their sinful behavior? Because I think there is a big misconception in this generation of being kind and loving in that communities’ eyes that corresponds with affirming and being cool with supporting their behavior…

Watched it

The hypocrisy in some of these comments is overwhelming. I applaud Preston's long-needed compassion but I notice there is still this underlying meme of "hate the sin, love the sinner" plus this pervasive presumption of knowing exactly what God wants or says about people "suffering” same-sex attraction and their "unfulfilling lifestyle choices". Curious if we would be having such a discussion concerning pork eaters, slavery proponents, or divorced Christians. I wish more Christians would take the beam out of their own eye and examine more closely how a loving God could condemn a condition that has been in every culture throughout history to the present.

It is always so righteous and godly when Christians claim to be more loving than God himself. These are the nice, kind, and more loving Christians who are too holy to believe and follow the Bible. They are not like the old Christians who don’t accept the ideology of standpoint epistemology and conform their thoughts to the words of God; people who actually still believes the Bible, and call sinners to repentance. How dare these less open minded, less nice Christians who actually believe the Bible, right? They are not like this educated speaker who knows better than God. He has met gay people, who is God to telll him what to believe. He has a PHD what does God have, as if God knows the world and made man or something. This guy sounds nice, and that is all that matters! He is so much better and nicer than you Christians who still believe God’s word. “How dare you!”

This gave me the courage to reignite not just one but several of my adulterous relationships! As I realized that God's prohibitions of sex outside of marriage and marriage being designed for a man and woman, must be false. Also since Jesus didn't mention homosexuality therefore the NT text (accept for Paul and who is Paul compared to Jesus), is not opposed to homosexuality, it must be the case that the concept of the Trinity is false since it too is not mentioned in the scriptures anywhere! Wait, something has gone terribly wrong here. The exegetical rules suggested here keep leading us to false interpretations. Didn't Jesus deflect the shame of culture in the pericope aduterae? Although this passage wasn't found in any of the early manuscripts it does seem to show us a few things common to other gospel pericopes where sin is involved. Namely, Jesus doesn't shame sinners but tells them the truth and also tells them to stop sinning! I didn't here anything in this message analyzing God's perspective about sexual relationships. The cultures surrounding both Mesopotamia and Eqypt practiced homosexuality. The culture around Rome and its vassal states such as Israel practiced homosexuality. Yet everywhere sex is discussed with an eye to proscribed behavior it is limited to a man and woman who are married! That people can't name chapter and verse to support that claim (on a plane), has nothing to do with whether the Bible teaches those views! Yet I'm sure many were convinced by the speakers self-righteous complaint (I don't ever want to be so sure about something I know so little about). It is a red-herring. Do we actually think that because we have forgotten the name of the formula "a squared + b squared = c squared," that it becomes untrue, or that the forgetful person should be precluded from using that formula? What a bunch of nonsense (known as a category mistake this professor fallaciously ties how one knows or justifies something as true with what is real or true about the world). But it was an effective way to virtue-signal, and divert the listener's attention from the truth of the statement that God calls all sexual relationships outside of 1 man and 1 woman whom are married, a sin. Not complex, no contextual issues, in fact twisting context on these passages and eisegeting them (reading into the text) is the only way we get a pro LGBTQ reading. He could have worked off his notes and given us the rhetorical methods that helped people understand God's perspective in a non-shaming way, which is how he starts the talk. We could have applied his methods to other marginalized groups even. But instead he ends up giving us flawed interpretive methods, that lead to flawed conclusions, not in any way representative on scripture. Not what I expected from a Biola prof.

Why don't you ask me? A gay Christian about homosexuality and the Bible? My perspective is much more insightful coming from an actual member of the LGBTQ community who thrives in his Biblical faith.

Love the Lord then love your neighbor, or love neighbor then love God? Our society is divided by the wrong order of love. The subjects having to do with LGBTTTQQIAA, CRT, social justice/socialism, communism/equity, feminism, abortion rights, etc. are all pushing against our emotional strings to love, show compassion, just “listen”/accept, you must “celebrate”. The lost world, and the lost church has been arguing is the right order is to love your neighbor is the greatest and first commandment, then you are truly loving. The way of the world is idolatry in the name of love. Jesus says love God first, then second love your neighbor. The implication is that you will be able to rightly love your neighbor only if you FIRST love God. As a follower of Jesus, I believe Jesus is right, and the entire world can be and is wrong. Matthew 22:37-40 (ESV): And he [Jesus] said to him, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. 38 This is the great and first commandment. 39 And a second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. 40 On these two commandments depend all the Law and the Prophets.”

I don’t think gay is a choice…….therefore, not a sin.

This is a minecart ride down to the abyss.

I had to stop watching early on, because the premise given was that you were taught to hate gay people. I never heard that in my whole 56 years from a single person that claimed the name of Christ. I am NOT saying those people don't exist - I am certain they do. But what I am saying is that you claim this is the core belief of most Christians. I have never once as a follower of Jesus now for more than 30 years ever heard not only a sermon that claimed or hinted at this, but one serious follower of Jesus that I could see loves Jesus as He said by being obedient to Him every act that way let alone say it.

Spent the majority of the time telling his interpretation of how he thought the church is doing wrong, toward LGBTQ Community. In a time when this part of society needs a clear and bright light, this is anything but that...actually scrambled and dim. In the last days men will not endure sound doctrine. Preston mentioned repentance and tag it with this statement, "whatever that is" Deep down he knows his stance is error, he is closer to the world than to the Truth

My god this guy is exhausting

Yes, Jesus was kind to sinners, but he never excused, condoned or overlooked their sin. He said some form of, "do not sin any more." You, on the other hand, are saying that there are practicing LGBTQ Christians, that being such is even a good thing, and that is nowhere in Scripture. Your message isn't even close to what Jesus taught. You teach at a Bible college and you should know that.

There's only men and women i don't care what anyone says...

Wow! The biblical, theological, and moral wheels have come off BIOLA! Unconditional surrender to the spirit of the age. Note, this is BIOLA's CHAPEL!

When I hear these kinds of message, I have to request for a bucket, and run from the auditorium less I be injured as the Lord brings down his judgment. I can see now why the seminary does not require students to be subjected to this. Biola, you are proud of this?

Keep beating around the bush... 😄

Just get to the point ... never seems to. Professor Sprinkle deliverance conversation like he's changing diapers ... Bottom line Biola has an LGBT club on campus -- not very well known -- and Sprinkle says he enjoyed his time on Biola most with them. Sin shows itself in various impulses: anger, addiction, sensuality, murder, etc. This topic could be on any of those, LGBT dominates the conversation. So tired of it.

The first thing a Christian should say to someone from the LGBT community is this: I am sorry. Please forgive us for it is we who sinned against God by failing to love you and truthfully represent who God and Jesus really is. We have fallen so short at being your neighbour, friend and advocate. We have failed to be there for you in times of need and pain. We have failed to love you and care for you. We have failed to just listen to you and cherish your story and life experiences for what it is. Anyone who points to your sexuality and calls it a sin or a reason for going to Hell... is a self-righteous hypocrite, no different to the Jewish leaders Jesus highly criticised in his own day. They are not real Christians. For a real Christian knows that they themselves share the same human condition in that we are all sinners saved by God's grace alone. Real Christians should simply point you to Jesus and what him dying on the cross and rising to life again means for you and all of humanity. Real Christians will put your interests above their own need to prove themselves 'right'. Please do not let the actions of these false Christians stop you from seeking God... who earnestly longs to show you his love, kindness, faithfulness, grace and mercy. Oh that the LGBT community may find and seek God... and know the true nature of who he is. For he is more wonderful than you could ever imagine. He has never done us wrong. He has always done right by us. And in him you will find rest. In him you will find everything your heart has truly longed for. In him, you will be whole. Do not listen to the majority of Christians out there. How little they actually know God. Tim Mackie from The Bible Project does a wonderful job at helping you understand the bible on its own terms. I recommend anyone interested in knowing who God really is to start there. The bible is not a moral handbook... and the pathway to knowing who God is... is to lay aside our pre-conceived notion of who God is and who we are. We need to come humbly at the bible with the understanding that our knowledge is very limited and flawed to begin with ... we need to humbly ask God to reveal who he is to us. We need to acknowledge that we do not know everything as we are not God... then can God actually speak to our hearts and transform our dead minds into something new.

God asks all LGBTQ people to prayer for forgiveness from God for the way God made them.

This guy is a wolf! Don’t believe his misleading words