Has "Homosexual" Always Been in the Bible? An Interview with Preston Sprinkle 

Wonderful testimony Dion.

@@beebee9815 thank you!

Awesome

Amazing courage to having lived one way and giving your life to God to make such a drastic transformation. Many blessings Dion! ^__^

There is no such thing as a former homosexual. I'm sorry youve had such a tough life, but lets be honest. The destructive power of religion is probably the reason for your various trials.

They dooooo! Lol

Haha, i thought that too

Great teaching...!🤲🙏❤

They're in the same room, that's why

​@@evanstein3011 lol they aren't

Bingo

And in Genesis when the men want to have forceful relations with Abraham's male guests (who are actually angels) and then God destroys the city.

Right! People are really trying it.

You are more than welcome to “cast the first stone”.

Amen, Jamie! The LORD makes it CRYSTAL CLEAR.

Amazing grace!

Heaven is gonna be so good! Life is so short and heaven is eternity. Whatever struggles in this life will melt away in mere moments in the presence of God in heaven. What an exalted place you'll have!! Jesus says so! Those who struggle in this life have special places that are highly exalted in heaven! Hold fast to the promises! Everything is working for your good, for the good of those who believe in Jesus. Oh how good will it feel when he holds you fast in his arms in heaven and says, I've loved you so much, I was with you through everything, welcome home. You are so loved!! 💗💞 But what glories are present here also! The sunshine, birds singing, laughter, sports, cookies, music and all the colors!! If you are able to, wear as many beautiful colors as you can, it always lifts my spirits to see colors everywhere! Oh Jesus you are joy! Thank you Jesus!

@@imoimos we spend 70 years or so on earth...imagine spending 127,324,587,345,198,054,2,121,53,453,4, years doing nohing but grovelling at tour gods need for idolation ...boring..thankfully theres no evidencve that its true...we just die...sorry

@@iampostal have you ever been in love? I mean the feelings are that the other person is amazing and you just like being around them. For Christians it's like that times 1000 but for God. Faith. Where does that come from? I really don't know, I just know one day I felt a strong urge to know Jesus, like out of nowhere I thought, who is Jesus and why do I feel whoever he is must be good, and since then my life's been on a totally different trajectory. I can say I am 10x better a person now than I was before wanting to know Jesus ... And I don't mean I'm richer, if anything I'm poorer haha ... Or I've gotten more successful or gained more worldly esteem, if anything I've gained less worldly esteem. But the quality of my character ethically has so radically changed that I have to say, something is happening when you want to know Jesus. I can look at my life and see, there's been this change in my nature over time of knowing him and that confirms my faith which truth be told does have moments of doubt ... What's odd is when those doubts start up, something happens that draws me back to Jesus. I've never felt loved in this way before, which is to say ... When someone loves you enough, understands you enough to want you to become your best self ... and I mean by that, to conform you to Jesus Christ who was selfless, loving, forgiving, gentle, faithful, humble etc. So yes, eternity with God, knowing he is truly lacking in darkness, lacking in greed, lacking in lustfulness, lacking in domination, lacking in any aspect of darkness that wants to harm for personal gain but is pure, loving and good ... I think that sounds good. Don't blame him for what people who claim to know him do. His nature is pure, holy and good. When you see a beautiful sunset, a mother holding her young child with love, a person sacrificing their life to save someone else, any goodness, mercy, purity, gentleness and love ... That's reflective of his nature. For me personally, I want to be around that for eternity.

@@iampostal no evidence, huh? Then why does the famous skeptic and atheist, Bart Ehrman, disagree with that?

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Go back to Genesis Chapter one and two to see what God intended with his Creation. Our human nature has been corrupted in many ways depending on the individual. Some people love to lie and others have the temptation and desire for sex outside of marriage, this latter term referring to union of a man and woman.

Very well said.

Very true. Studying humanity, and psychology particularly, is just plain wrong because you start to understand all kinds of stuff about behaviour, motivation, people's sense of themselves etc.

@@gregorybezanson Yes, Adam and Eve should have been the perfect couple living in a perfect world, bringing forth perfect children and why? To glorify the living God on earth and this is the whole Plan He had for this world. Now we are living in a fallen world but soon the Lord, our Bridegroom will return for His BRIDE and hallelu'yah, I cannot wait for that day when His truth will shine like the sun.

You bet!

You justify your views on sexuality using the accounts of Genesis which are at best mythologies that were borrowed from even older creation stories that we have access to to this day. If you believe Adam and Eve is a real story then you really need to do a little more digging into the foundation of your faith and how humans evolved.

@A J Hmm as far as a "mistake" goes I don't believe there's any on God's part. I think there's true value in celibacy and focusing on God. I'm not celibate to please people like Sean or anyone else. I believe in God's design and plan for his creation. I used to hold a very similar viewpoint to that which you seem to hold. I told Christians that they were being brainwashed to hate themselves and abandon their true identity and chance at enjoying life. However, since then I've experienced Christ's love in a real, truly loving way. Though I may not know why God designed relationships and marriage the way he did, I believe in God's goodness and knowledge far above my own understanding. Ultimately I fail to see a viable case for same sex relationships within the Bible, so I will not engage in those relationships. Aiming to honor God in everything and all parts of my life has proved to be far more fulfilling and purposeful than just looking to satisfy myself and my desires ever were or could possibly be. I don't see it as self-hatred, I see it as a test of faith and trust in God's sovereignty. I personally don't pray to not be gay, nor do I see much value in conversion therapy. I ask for God's grace and to keep making me more like himself each day. My identity in Christ far surpasses any other component of who I am. I'm sorry if either of us has caused you to feel like you should hate yourself or doubt God's character. I don't hate myself, I'm least miserable I've ever been, and I know I'm still loved my God through the entire process

@A J uuhh no many times we all have sexual desires that anyone with common sense can see would be impure..humans are fallen and imperfect creatures which is the very reason we need Christ..but yeah I can understand those who don't believe in Christ hating the idea of God or hating Christianity for the very reason that it expects us to deny some of our desires..but those who believe they've received Christ can live a perfectly joyful life, not indulging in their desires, cuz they're looking towards what's to come after this life..however, without that view of a Christain afterlife so to speak then yeah living a life resisting our desires would be miserable cuz u don't perceive any reward for doing so..if thats your position I understand..but for u to assume that everyone who doesn't see the world the way u do is miserable?? pretty presumptuous and ignorant

@@christinaiverson2009 1 Timothy 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; 3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. 4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving: 5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer. 6 If thou put the brethren in remembrance of these things, thou shalt be a good minister of Jesus Christ, nourished up in the words of faith and of good doctrine, whereunto thou hast attained. 7 But refuse profane and old wives' fables, and exercise thyself rather unto godliness. 8 For bodily exercise profiteth little: but godliness is profitable unto all things, having promise of the life that now is, and of that which is to come. Hebrews 13:1 Let brotherly love continue. 2 Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares. 3 Remember them that are in bonds, as bound with them; and them which suffer adversity, as being yourselves also in the body. 4 Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge. Romans 12:9 Let love be without dissimulation. Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good. 10 Be kindly affectioned one to another with brotherly love; in honour preferring one another; I don't have any verses that pertain to lesbians, but that is because of the cultural setting back when the Bible was written. It was the nature of a woman to procreate, and they held her virginity until a male who the father deemed appropriate came for her. Back then, a woman couldn't survive on her own, and males were the master of the household. The same does not apply today and such cultural laws shouldn't apply, hence why they are not directly in the Commandments. While I can show you a few instances the Bible has of male companionship in comparison to a heterosexual marriage, I can't really do the same with females. The closest I can come up with is the relationship Jesus' mother Mary had, when Joseph was out of the picture. It referred to Mary Magdalene as the "sister" of Mary. We know they were not of blood relation, but we also know that males who make covenants with each other, often refer to each other as "brother". So the same could be said of both Mary's. Jesus had a covenant with many men, and called them "brother", but only 1 is considered the "beloved", and ironically, it is the brother of Mary Magdalene, Lazarus. So even if the "marriage" between Jesus and Lazarus would have made Mary Magdalene Jesus' "sister in law", it wouldn't have made her a "sister" to Jesus mother. This could imply that the 2 Mary's could have had their own covenant. Jesus did send his mother to live with Lazarus, right before his crucifixion. And both Mary Magdalene and Lazarus were witnesses at the tomb of Jesus. Neither of which would have a reason to be there, except as family to Jesus in one way or another. Mary Magdalene on behalf of Jesus' mother, and Lazarus on behalf of Jesus. Apart from that, there is no law that forbids "homosexuality". Sin is the transgression of the law. Therefor "homosexuality" isn't a sin.

And in the spirit, there is neither male nor female. So, must be that the non-binary folks are the closest to God if anyone.

@@Squawk24 In the spirit God is referred to as Father or Abba.(present male tense He) And what you're expounding is gnosticism not the bible and John warns about that being anti-christ.

@@Squawk24 I suggest you take your medications.

Believing in Christ and putting your life in His hands does not change your sexual orientation. To believe so is ridiculous. People who accept the bible as without error is ridiculous. When it was written the people thought in completely different ways about things. They thought the world was flat, they thought the sun revolved around the earth, they thought that rape was the same as having same sex. They were fools and people who take it literally are fools as well.

Even Lust after another person that doesn't belong to you is a sin. And we know marriage is for a man and a woman. People need to stop trying to figure out loop holes and what sin they can get away with.

can you point out a passage referring to women having sex with women?

@@rhiannebyron1889 Roman's 1 woman giving up affection for man for a woman

@@rhiannebyron1889 I would ask God to reveal the truth great question, seek and ye shall find knock and the door shall be opened unto you

The old testament does, yes. However if you're a Christian, the old testament and levitical law mean nothing thanks to the sacrifice of Jesus. Jesus never says anything about homosexuality. Perhaps you should know your own religious texts before trying to make claims.

That’s condescending. God’s word and it’s meaning aren’t always simple to understand, as language has evolved over thousands of years. Translations aren’t simple either. Taking the effort to understand it, is our duty as Christians. And questioning what translations were handed to us by other men, isn’t sinful. It’s lazy to assume we have a complete understanding of the bible.

@@stevenbatke4167 The meaning of the words found in the NT unquestionable mean homosexuality. Even if they were to never come up, which they do, Genesis 2:24 forbids it. Unfortunately like I said earlier however, sinners will always look for a way to soften the Word of God.

@@kylec8950 I don’t see how that verse forbids anything, other than it explains typical marriage. We all filter scripture through our own lens. But hey, if you interpret it that way, that’s your choice.

@@stevenbatke4167 No it's not my choice. That's what God says. It couldnt be clearer. When you twist Scripture around to appease your own sins, you have a real problem with God himself.

@@kylec8950 if you say so...

I'm gay and have never been damaged by having a relationship with a man. Please elaborate on how these relationships are inherently harmful.

You are talking about relationships. I have had very damaging heterosexual relationships. No that is not why I am gay plenty of survivors are straight. This is why I think this whole debate is sad. We distill relationships to p and v. Shouldn't we be talking consent and equality, trust, respect and love.

Amen Dina

@@hnaoto2 😆 Good for you. I think love/relationships makes us better and healthier people.

@@natashabonica4205PREACH!!!! The bedrock of relationships are the love shared and the fruit borne as a result. But all that goes out the window because it isn’t literally in the Bible…. Y’all the spirit of the law vs the letter….YIKES man

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"blessing" religion is for the sick minded.

@@HarryNicNicholas true, but only for all the false religions. Not the single true one.

yeah it's a shame his first names aren't hugh janus eh?

@@HarryNicNicholas lol 😂🤩

Uh, no. Wake and and realize the Bible is words written on paper by people of a different era who weren't enlightened.

@@exploringrvdude7817 Jesus is the TRUE Light that coming into the world gives light to all men. We must be sure that the light within us is not darkness

@@exploringrvdude7817 Bible says the Word of God doesn't change. So there is no such a thing as different era

@@marv6013 The bible says a lot of silly things. Doesn't make them true.

@@exploringrvdude7817 I don’t have to defend God, but His Word is the oldest living book of all time and is still the best seller to this very day and always will be, I was a horrible sinner but God saved me from eternal hell, through His Son and He changed me. Ppl want to twist the Word to their on satisfaction, but it will never work with God. He made you and loves you and so do the true born again Christians. The Word is so right...ppl love sin more than God. God Bless!

Glad you enjoyed it!

There is no reason why a gay person cannot identify as "homosexual" because in this context, "homosexual" is an adjective. The reference to someone as "A homosexual" (a noun) is offensive because it reduces all of what that person is to his or her sexual orientation and often pejoratively implies that he or she is homosexually active.

Is calling yourself heterosexual a submission to your own fleshly desires? Or is it a word used to describe a series of physiological responses you have to males that you find attractive? It's not an identity, that I agree with. It's not "fleeting feelings" either, sexual attraction isn't an emotion. It's a word to signify the sex that causes a set of physiological responses you have to sexually-stimulating perceptions. Adam was not commanded to be sexually attracted to Eve, he just naturally was. Adam chose Eve by his own free will, and the bible clearly states that for THAT reason, men shall leave their father and mother and CLING to their wives, meaning staying with them and committing to them based on the attraction they. already. have. People don't just randomly "struggle" with "homosexual feelings" . I don't see how pretending like homosexuality is just a feeling that some people have some of the time is an actual answer to this problem. Straight people stay straight their entire lives, nobody "struggles" with same-sex attraction. People who have the same physiological responses as heterosexuals, but towards stimuli of the same-sex AND lacking any sexual attraction to the opposite sex from the time of puberty throughout their entire lives consistently and without fail, is objectively not an emotion and the attraction is not a choice. Homosexual people are not attracted to ALL members of the same sex either, just like heterosexuals aren't. But Jesus said he who even looks at a woman with lust has committed adultery with her in his heart. Hating your brother is equivalent to killing him in your heart, as Jesus also said. You can't just say that "acting on homosexual desires is a sin" when based on what Jesus said, if all same-sex attraction is inherently lustful, then yes, simply being a homosexual is a sin. I know you don't believe that, but that's the logical conclusion to your belief regardless of if you ignore it. How is something that's not even a choice a moral issue? It's certainly a moral issue when it comes to how that sexuality is expressed, but if it's so important for heterosexual men to have a proper outlet for their sexuality, I don't see how subjugating an entire group of people (based on an immutable characteristic, not an identity) to forced celibacy for their entire life is the right answer.

@@Mike-ej2jw Anyone who is called to follow Jesus will soon realize that in order to do it, you must take off the old self -Ephesians 4:22, Colossians 3:9-10, Romans 8:12-13 etc. When someone is kingdom minded, they know that sharing heaven with the Lord is the treasure. In the meantime, on this earth, we are to take up the cross. That means denying yourself a lot- for some it will be sex. Christ is supposed to be our portion. If you won’t even try denying your fleshly desires, no matter what they are, you can’t claim Christianity.

Do you know how insulting it is to be called a liar, should we not call that a spade either? What about thief, adultery, rapist, pedophile etc?

This is idiotic. Are you a heterosexual? Do you say you're a heterosexual when asked to explain your own attractions? No one is "struggling" because they're a homosexual. They struggle because of people like you who believe they are inherently bad, suffering, flawed, broken, etc.

Amen!!! ❤🙌

It’s “not” messing with my ocd. 😂

Praise God. May God continue to show you, just like myself, to put on the full armor of God to fight against the wiles of the devil.just remember lusting is sin, but we can overcome through Christ.....and take all thoughts captive when the bad ones come. I say that off and on all day. Satan loves to put bad thoughts in our mind. God Bless!

@@patricianastasi6885 thank you! God bless you 😊

Praise God. So glad to hear your testimony of salvation. I have the same struggle not looking at porn and going to massage parlors. Sometimes the temptation to do those things is so powerful I don't think I can withstand it.

@@Mike-rm9bb May God keep you when those moments come turn to God pray read His Word or call a brother and sister in Christ that you can talk to, it good to have someone in the faith that can help with Godly advice :) prayers for you. Greater is He that is in you than that who is in the world. We have His Holy spirit who helps us overcome temptations. Blessings !

@@lezzimars6061 Thank you so much for your encouragement. So much temptation everywhere. I am getting accountability counseling to help me. Also prayer from my close brothers in Christ about it. God Bless and strengthen you.

The Bible also says that a man sleeping with a man is an abomination.

@@Nicolos117 so you follow the laws of Leviticus then? Because Jesus sacrificed himself to remove people from being held to levitical laws from the old testament. 🙃

@@hnaoto2 ?

@@Nicolos117 part of the sacrifice Jesus made stripped us from being beholden to those laws of the old testament, including Leviticus. This is why you can cut your hair, eat pork or shellfish, etc etc. It's all or nothing.

By the logic you’ve used here, you’ve done the same.

. JESUS is LORD. JESUS is GOD. the LORD GOD Almighty reigns forever and ever. you, too, can be a child of GOD, sealed by the HOLY SPIRIT. please turn away from all of your sins and live all to the glory of GOD alone! GOD bless you! :)

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Joel 3:4 Yea, and what have ye to do with me, O Tyre, and Zidon, and *all the coasts of Palestine?* will ye render me a recompence? and if ye recompense me, swiftly and speedily will I return your recompence upon your own head;

@@ScriptureUnbroken - notice how the text TRANSLITERATES the two first place name, yet CHANGES the Hebrew פלשת (Pelesheth) to the modern "Palestine"? You just confirmed everything the @A Font has said sir...

@@2besavedcom-7 And your people are cult heretics that think the eternal name of God is Hebrew.

@@ScriptureUnbroken - "...everyone who calls on the Name of יהוה shall be delivered." Not my words, but the WORD is the truth sir.

@@2besavedcom-7 *Rom **10:13** For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.* How ironical that you write your own scriptures and call it truth. How ironical that there's not a single verse in the bible that tells us to start mixing ancient Hebrew in with our own native languages to understand God's word. How ironical that all across your website you tell people not to believe scripture in English, and then start quoting scripture in English to try prove some point. And how sad that you think you can keep the law, sadder still that you put people under the law and then add your own laws on top. How pathetic are your attacks on Paul. And how idiotic to think there was no J-sound in either English nor ancient Hebrew until about 500 years ago. Who's in control of languages? God. Who gave us the alphabets? God. Who taught us grammar? God. Your heretical cult are not Ancient Hebrew, Koine Greek, nor English experts. The fallacious statements all across your website show great ignorance. You claim that before the rendering of the name Jesus, the English called his name Iesus. In the Geneva bible yes. Geneva = Iesus. KJV = Jesus. Simple transition between 2 languages: middle English and modern English. Who is hælend? It's funny that you great scholars of English never mention hælend in your 'studies'. Where did God dwell before creation? Where was God before he created material time, space, and matter? What is Eternity? *Isa **57:15** For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones.* What language was God speaking during the days of creation? *Gen 1:3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.* When did the Hebrew language begin? *Gen 11:7 Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech.* It's incredibly naive and arrogant to consign the eternal name of God to one language. *Zep 3:8 Therefore wait ye upon me, saith the LORD, until the day that I rise up to the prey: for my determination is to gather the nations, that I may assemble the kingdoms, to pour upon them mine indignation, even all my fierce anger: for all the earth shall be devoured with the fire of my jealousy.* *Zep 3:9 For then will I turn to the people a pure language, that they may all call upon the name of the LORD, to serve him with one consent.* Today is the day of your salvation, if you will trust on the Lord. Turn aside from your gnostic, self-righteous, damnable works. *Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:* *Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.* Rom 4:3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness. Rom 4:4 Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. Rom 4:5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. Rom 4:6 Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works, Rom 4:7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered. *John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.* *1Co 15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;* *1Co 15:4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:*

You bet

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@Maya De paz agreed. I was waiting for Lauren Daigle to make an appearance in this video.

boom!!

against nature?? what about hermaphrodites?? guys who can get pregnant or the ones born with the opposite gential

@@blessstanreef2862 yep! You’ve figured it all out. Now Christianity the world over can change their erroneous ways dating back thousands of years.

@@blessstanreef2862 a very few miniscule amount. The same as those with other deformities.

@@blessstanreef2862 Genetic mutation is a part of reality, it doesn't remove the God intended pattern. Do you teach 6 fingers are as usual as 5 on human beings because some get a genetic mutation causing them to have 6?

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The ancient Christians had no concept of sexual orientation as we understand it today, so that is not mentioned anywhere.

@@hnaoto2 No they did, notering new

Feelings whether heterosexual/lgbtq+ are fallen

I’m a little confused. Are you saved (aka “born again”)?

@@reese4749 I think you're referring to words being used to mean the same thing, that don't traditionally mean the same thing. Saved and born again are not interchangeable. Saved, rescued, etc. from certain death in some. Born again to walk in a new life, with a new nature, Christ's Spirit guiding your life. You are not born again from death. And you are not saved to a new life. Tedious and very miniscule, maybe, but making distinctions is important. I think that's what the original comment was saying

@@dmeek20 the christian mythology is indeed tedious. go out in the sun and play. ffs.

@@HarryNicNicholas nice, intelligent response. I wish you well, friend. I'll discuss things, but won't engage in slander and condescension

You should check out Greg Bahnsen

For reals! What was that one comedian that had that? There was a cartoon.

A lot of the time, they are born gay?

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@@nursinggirlies perhaps born with those tendencies but doesn't mean they should act on it. We all have temptations we have to resist for the sake of obeying Christ

. JESUS is LORD. JESUS is GOD. the LORD GOD Almighty reigns forever and ever. you, too, can be a child of GOD, sealed by the HOLY SPIRIT. please turn away from all of your sins and live all to the glory of GOD alone! GOD bless you! :)

Yes, amen I totally agree. The truth of God's heart for this world is never palatable and people will always nit pick and try to disassemble His Laws and Precepts. He set the pattern for humankind in Genesis, it will not change but sinful man will try to change it. Foolish thinking because God always wins!

you know you're creating more atheists with this bullshit? by all means keep it up but you are such a twat.

That's a good quote. I'd like to point out how much he draws on Carl Jung's work though. The dude claimed to have voices, and spiritual encounters that shaped his work massively. Anyone that relies on that material for anything is.. teetering on very dangerous.

@@axian8102 point well taken.

That’s the goal!

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There are testimonials on how once gay and lesbian people had their ssa completely gone, was still there but also started to be attracted to the opposite sex, or didn't go away but was able to be managed easier once they accepted Jesus. So the possibility of not having ssa is there. And for those that are Christians that still have it, it's a lot easier to get control over something when you're not participating in it or are constantly exposed to related stimuli. Think of porn as an example. There's an element of self control that everyone has to take when it comes to sex, and we are told in the Bible one of the fruits of the spirit is self control. The Holy Spirit helps when Christians ask for help. The LGBTQ community has a very large hookup culture, so trying to have self control of one's ssa is bound to crash and burn for a lot of Christians with ssa. Granted, same sex behavior is something that is of the flesh so nothing will change for anyone who isn't a Christian because they don't walk with Jesus.

Agreed

Amen, we were warned!

Jesus" Truly I say to you, there are some standing here who will not taste death until they see the son of man coming in his kingdom with power" Jesus believed he was in the end times

How can I get your dissertation? Any chance you’d send me the PDF through seanmcdowell.org?

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Then why do you think most European Bibles for most of history translated it as “boy”?

@@mountainguy7762 It doesn't matter why it was mistranslated to "boy ". Zakar simply means "male". Please see Strong's Concordance.

@@hotflash7486 Actually, it does matter! I can tell that you were looking at a Strongs that is recently published. I encourage you to look at older books, such as 500 years ago, to discover why they translated these words as “boy” in most European Bibles. If you studied Hebrew, then you would know that zakar actually translates as “male, man, OR boy”, depending upon context. Most of Europe translated it as “boy”, the English translated it as man. I would encourage you to venture beyond the English language if you truly are serious about studying the Bible.

@@mountainguy7762 No Sir. Male to male sex, regardless of age, is still a sin. That's why it doesn't matter. God bless 🙏

@@hotflash7486 not according to the Bible! I’m guessing you have never studied Greek or Hebrew at an academic level, am I correct?

Ahhhhhh! The stone of subjective comparison!

@@christopherscheiber1439 I don't understand your comment. One thing that never led to anything constructive was the "sin is sin" line to justify saying "you with your boyfriend is the same as raping a child." First of all, if I don't believe one sin is as bad as another - telling your kids how your terrible Father's Day breakfast is the same as the Holocaust, means you have to deceive yourself, ignore the horror that is still haunting today, and the white lie was said in love, rather than speaking the truth, which would result in harm. In one online group, a woman asked a gay friend if he had any interest in attending her church with her. The had been going together for 6 months, and the more that time passed, the more troubled she became, because although her church was glbtq welcoming, they were not affirming, meaning they clearly believed homosexuality a sin, and any non repentant queer person was not allowed any position in the church, not even passing offering plates. It's gets even more complicated. Her friend is married to his partner, so she wanted advice. I would feel very distrustful of anyone who had that knowledge but withheld it, thinking that attending her church was a ruse to change me rather than fellowship and worship with a friend. A number of responses were not surprisingly callous, which is why someone may claim to love a gay person but not their sin, even believe it, but I don't know anyone who it is directed at buying it for a minute: Tell you friend to get a divorce. He's not really married anyway. Imagine joining a church, and someone claiming the person you chose to marry isn't a real marriage and tells you to get a divorce like it's nothing. Imagine coming home from church, and telling your spouse your church is demanding a divorce, and if you actually followed the church's order, your heart breaking as you split up and pack your things, sell the house you imagined growing old in, and getting no empathy from the church, more of a "What's the big deal" attitude. And yet, the poster condemns a man in a committed marriage, while showing no empathy, understanding, or even acknowledging the seriousness of what the gay friend was being asked to do. They aren't even in the parking lot of loving their neighbor, but because of their lack of love, are condemning in their judgement and sentence as well. •He that does not love does not know God, for God is love." So, who is more at risk of not having salvation, a married gay guy who want to attend church and have community, or a Christian who demonstrates their lack of love for a whole group of people, lacks fruit of the Spirit, and justifies it with scripture, believing they can decide who is holy enough and worthy enough to be treated with love? So, I keep thinking, shouldn't Christians be a little concerned about modern day pharisees who put so much emphasis on queer people and calling their relationships sin, but because the focus is on sin, esp other people's, they neglect to truly embody God's koce, and Christ's command to love everyone, and often minimalizing love to pointing out others' sin?

The "loving in Christ" would seem rather like disgruntled and ingorant villagers with torches in their hands ready to burn down what they clearly don't understand.

It’s so sad, hen ppl want to change or accept sin that is against God. He created you the way He wanted you. God loves you and made you and so do us true Christians. I was a horrible sinner but God love through His Son who died that I might live in eternity and not hell. God Bless You!

I fully agree. Parts of this video were painful to listen to at times.

Given the constant translation, editing, etc, you don't know the word of god. Hell, the bible was written by people who lived long after the events that were supposed to have occurred therein.

Modern day bible translation. It wouldn't say that in translations closer to the original. It was more specific in what was being condemned. Whereas, modern bibles use a term like 'sexual immorality' leaving it open for someone to say the term refers to something that wasn't intended to be included. According to the Koine Greek translation, this text would be referring to sexual acts that involved betrayal of one human towards another human, which would be a violation of the Law. So, yes, adultery would qualify. Actually, back then, they distinguished between male adultery and female adultery. Also, a single man that seduces another man's woman would qualify. Rape as well. Homosexuality doesn't qualify as it doesn't involve betrayal of another person's relationship or one's own relationship or forcing one's self upon another without consent or sex with a child.

Same sex attraction...is the same as lust. God doesn’t even define the term sex attraction. He refers to sexual immorality, but does mention homosexuality. I don’t care if ppl what to say the translation is wrong. The Bible is the oldest book in the world and still the best seller to this day. I do pray that God will open the eyes of these ppl before judgement day. God in the 7 churches mention we must overcome....now these are just a few He mentions....if, we want our names written in the book of life, the tree of life, the white stone, the manna....etc. God Bless!

@ken john Do you ask Jesus Christ for mercy for your own sinfulness, or are you too busy judging others ?

​@ken john From your reply ""born that way" is never an excuse for wrong behaviour " Is this not judgemental ??? Jesus told this parable: "Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. The Pharisee stood up and prayed about himself: `God, I thank you that I am not like other men--robbers, evildoers, adulterers--or even like this tax collector. I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.' "But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, `God, have mercy on me, a sinner.' "I tell you that the tax collector, rather than the other, went home justified before God." While you are pointing the "wrong behaviour" in others, I am a gay man in a loving relationship who calls out to God for mercy ALL day long. LORD JESUS CHRIST, SON OF GOD, HAVE MERCY ON ME A SINNER.

@ken john You wrote a reply to my message "born that way" is never an excuse for wrong behaviour " I'm sorry but from your own words, is this not judgemental ??? My question was do you ask for mercy for your own sinfulness, or are you too busy judging others ? Your reply was then that I am judging you. Yet I am the most wretch of all sinners. At least 200 times a day I say the Jesus Prayer. I am the worst of al sinners, I have no right to jusge you. Yet your comment toward gay people. And I am a gay person is judgmental and condemning . I asked you a question. Do you ask Jesus Christ for mercy for your own sinfulness. Or are you too busy condemning homosexuals ?

​@ken john So as you say that being born gay could fall under the same as aggression, addiction, obesity, promiscuity. Will you please then help me. Will you please say the Jesus Prayer with me for a entire week. 20 minutes in the morning and 20 minutes in the evening. On a beaded bracelet, for every bead repeat the prayer. LORD JESUS CHRIST, SON OF GOD, HAVE MERCY ON ME A SINNER. This is a link on how the prayer works. Id be most grateful if you could help me and do this prayer with me. Lets chat again in a week to see if its worked. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-S_VeNg7GE2o.html

@ken john It would seem that you are very quick to throw out comments like " "born that way" is never an excuse for wrong behaviour ". Then when I agree with you and seek your help in prayer. With a prayer that I'm comfortable with. You seem unwilling to help me. Why are you not willing to show me any mercy ???? or offer me any help in a way that makes me feel comfortable ? It hardly seems Christian that one would deal out judgments but be unwilling to meet me where I am at. Did Christ not meet you in the messiness of your life and pull you though in a way you could understand. All I ask is that we each do this very simple prayer and each focus on our own sinfulness for 20 minutes twice a day for a week. LORD JESUS CHRSIT < SON OF GOD HAVE MERCY ON MA A SIINER

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it's all BS from start to finish, no one cares what god wants really. have you noticed how many people don't actually keep to ANY of the commandments? in fact the highest populations of christians, and muslims, is prison.

@@Isaiah--vj2xu total crap you mean.

Gay meant happy as well. The devil always twists things!

Not really ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-u5GBPk0c01s.html

yeah, true-Repentance is a change of mind, change of the INTERNALS; it is AGREEING with the Message of Life/God, this Confession if real, produces outward FRUITS in accordance with the internal. However, this doesn't mean that a true-Christian is PERFECT outwardly or inwardly but a true-Christian would ACKNOWLEDGE THE TRUTH immediately or sooner or later.

These talkers in this video certainly are gone astray teaching that our Sinful-NATURE from our parents and culture/upbringing is okay . Please checkout my article "God Did Not Create Anyone For Hell", contrary to so many Pastors' satanic VIEW of "predestination". Use my username to search internet to find my website.

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How would you translate the Greek though?

Can a “attraction” which one may control by not dwelling on, not following through with fantasies in ones mind, etc. Be different than “lust”. To me lust would mean a long lingering, intentional desire for sex with someone without humbly squashing the thought or feeling quickly and contrite-ly , That is different from someone who knows they have an attraction but does not dwell on it, allow the mind to fantasize, and doesn’t entertain lustful longings.

Yeah I was thinking homosexual would be appropriate because if you think it , it’s the same as the activity?

@@SamD-th5tg exactly the way the King James translators did if I was that clever

Some people have self-control. You, apparently, don’t. This impugns your morals- not those of others.

Yes.

which is completely wrong!

@@kenobi4582 What is wrong ?

@@spinlok3943 what about lustful thoughts?

You're right, he put in all this work creating this world and he doesn't care if it works or not

@@ChewyChicken589 You're right, the flourishing of human civilization and nature that God must have intended is completely equivalent to whether some people identify as gay

What particularly did you enjoy?

@@SamD-th5tg I always understood that homosexuals are not bad and they can be Christians and that is the act of making sex that is forbidden but I couldn't put it in clear words and thoughts like they did. I believe we're leaving in an extraordinary times, God Is Rising men and women capable of teaching in our generation like "it seems to me" never before.

Dust Driver Thankyou

@@dustdriver115 Sorry! Gay ppl can not be Christians and still disobey God. Everyone Must be born again by the water and the spirit. If you are born again the Holy Spirit will live in your heart and correct you, and comfort you, and remind you what God says. Christians are to be baptized in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. You can not continue to live in sin and make it to heaven. I love you to tell you! God Bless!

@@patricianastasi6885 So why can't they just be Christians on their death bed. Why even bother being a Christian throughout your life if all you need is the final forgiveness and then BAM I'm into heaven?