Prey - No Masterpiece, But Surprisingly Good 

Because they're broken souls as well, happy to trample others on their way to the top. This Wahmen was honestly unlikeable. She was only slightly bothered by her brothers death, and couldn't care less about the others.

I'm not watching it, but they made her a Chief? Ye gods, that is stupid. A tribe taking that many loses is doomed. They will be absorbed into another tribe.

Very well-put.

Smiling while stepping over your friends' corpses in order to achieve your dream? That's what progress looks like, my friend.

@@chrislutz416 'well since you got everyone else killed, I guess you get to hold the special stick'

So true

@Russ Ingram What are you on about? The life of pi, Lorax, Django Unchained, 21 jump street, the dictator, men in black 3, skyfall, the pirates, Jack Reacher, all released in 2012 Half of these aren't even great movies, yet better than the shit we get nowdays. 2012 alone had more good movies than the past 3 years combined lol

Because woke.

The outrage mob makes taking risks too risky. Before all you were risking was just making a movie that audiences weren't interested in, or just wasn't that good. Now you're risking being unpersoned if you don't walk the line.

You clowns are so drunk on calling everything woke or anti-woke, you can't even see straight anymore. This movie would have been considered good at any time, because it was a genuinely solid and fun movie. I'm sorry if you can't see a female protagonist anymore without your juvenile politics coming into play. If it was some big burly male who did the EXACT SAME THINGS you'd be praising the movie without complaint. This was a stripped down, bare-bones Predator film that obliterates the last few entries in the franchise.

Everybody badass till they get shot in the face!

I personally liked it, the predators seemed like massive femboys without their masks, weaker than a toddler. It makes sense he'd be stronger even without a mask, hence the name Predator.

The idea for the Predator is not to take damage and do nothing, like some of those "fat bosses" from 90's videogames and movies. The idea is to avoid damage, and yet end up outmatched by a superior combatant, who can adapt.

@@lollllolll. I really liked the movie, you can see the effort they put into it. Everything makes sense, is connected etc. Also, predators that hunt humans are actually low tier predators, thats why he has low grade weaponry... but yeah, they are tanks as fuck. What I liked most about the movie is that he would never die by brute forcing him, he got played in the end, and thats how he lost...

@@fernandoi8958 I disagree with the last part, she almost brute forced him and probably should have tbh, she jumped on and beat the predator, sliced its arm off and practically strangled it with rope and lead it into a bog, the movie ends with the predator killing itself but there really was no need, she might as well have walked over and punched it to death at that point, she completely outclassed the predator physically (fucking somehow)

But he uses the burnt stumps in the movie as jumping pads so, didn't work, like at all? I thought it was to make a clearing in which he could less easily hide.

Comanche and French trappers together? That is an odd hookup.

@@acwojtkowiak SPOILERS! They weren't "together" (I assume you mean as in "working together.") The French trappers used them as bait.

@@ajlendful he was just too strong, or I guess they didn't think he could do that.

Very good.

That would have been idiotic. Every other reference in this was subtle and made sense.

@@darkphoenix2 come on bud take the joke

@@PattyOflan88 I'd take it if it was a good joke

@@darkphoenix2 Yes them getting the gun from the second movie was very subtle even tho this means the predator's came back and killed all of them is very subtle

Ha

That is true. They should have made the whole movie in Native American language (or whatever the Comanche are speaking) instead of switching back and fourth to English for no reason.

@@vdochev But then people would have to actually watch the movie instead of turning it on and doing something else.

@@vdochev you do know their is an option in the setting to set it full un Comanche and subtitles in English. Y’all not even knowing this say’s a lot about y’all.

The little amount that they do talk is what I hated the most about the movie. Not that I wanted more of it at all. But I hated the way they spoke. I felt like they made no attempt to dial back the mannerisms and attitude of 21st century English. The brother talked like a gym bro who just finished listening to the latest Rick Ross album. No I wasn't expecting them to speak more like Native Americans, but less like they just left Starbucks and were too busy posting selfies on Instagram

That scene was dumb, it's obvious to you she doesn't die since it's an awkward death do the main character and it was only at the first half of the movie. So essentially you knew it is foreshadowing...

Film was pathetic with a 5 ft 5 female who weighs about 7 stone fighting a beast of a predator. Embarrassing and politically correct nonsense

She has the power of Woke Feminist writers.

@@hectichazerdus She uses speed and agility to dodge his hits and get jabs at him rather than pure strenght, so I don't mind that.

yea pretty much lol but it was good overall

That guy was a bad ass

As far as I remember, she was presented as a generic "Latino" guerilla (insurgent) fighter (although we know that the film was shot in the jungles of Mexico, the exact location is not specified in the film, and the impression expressed by moviegoers is that the action took place somewhere in South American Colombia, being about insurgents and guerilla wars. But, anyway, she was not presented as a Native American, nor did she give that impression.

@@szaboattila844 That's not who the comment was about!

@@szaboattila844 The comment was about Billy

@@milesnicholas5973 just goes to show you how people aren’t legit Predator fans

Dutch always has a plan but he just needs money

...GET TO DA CHOPPA!

Funny enough Dutch is still alive in the extended lore and hunting the predators, the closest you will see a return of his character is in the predator video game.

@@hi12345613 That game is surprisingly fun with the right group.

Really!?!?!?!? That's awesome. I love Arnie Wiki.

To quote something I saw downvoted on reddit: The first movie is a deconstruction of masculinity. The best of the best, and absolute physical specimens of humanity go to war with guerrillas and annihilate them. Their (Hollywood) fieldcraft and combat make them indestructable Gods of war.... And this draws the attention of a bigger fish. The Predator shrugs off their firepower, picks apart their numerical advantage, desecrates their dead, and rattles their nerves. The only way Arnold Schwarzenegger survives is because he accidentally stumbles upon camouflage to stop the beast seeing him, then resorts to primative, caveman tactics to overcome the Predator. Even then it is not enough, and they are finally put on equal footing. The Hunter acknowledges his prey, and they lock horns in a deadly 1 vs 1. Arnold, the biggest man in Hollywood is outclassed. Even when his final trap is employed, the Predator outfoxes it, and is only killed by the log used as leverage to the original trap. By the end, Arnold Schwarzenegger is borderline dead. He has PTSD, lost all of his friends and comrades, and sombre music plays. There's a 101 errors tactically with the movie: Why do they only discuss their backup plan / reinforcements whilst en route? Why wouldn't Dillon mention Jim Hopper and his men? Why does Billy, a professional soldier, go all "grampy bone be feelin' dis" at nothing? When they attack the enemy encampment, there's no plan for how to egress if things go bad. When Mac says he found the other hostage, and he's dead too, could it be from the fact Arnie's men blew up the whole village without seeing which building the hostage was inside? Arnie says "Find me a way out of this hole" to Billy. They should have had an extraction plan prior to the attack, or even prior to landing. How do they know the first chopper was taken out by a heat seeker? How can you tell the guidance system on a SAM / RPG explosion by looking at shrapnel for a few seconds? Maybe it was radar guided. And so on and so on.... (I have lots more) But Predator had heart, soul, and a novel concept. It will always be in my top 3 movies. Prey wasn't a bad movie, but it was nothing to write home about. Frankly I found the predator more stupid, and the tactics to bring it down less impressive. People have no problem with women heroes, and to this day, Ellen Ripley and Sarah Connor are benchmarks for feminine prowess. It's just they happened to be amazing characters as well as females. By all means give us a female native American killer (even if she's half Thai/Chinese), but I don't think you're telling a story that is relevant to the Predator experience, which is over-reliance on technology, and the idea of a super power being wiped out by a less sophisticated enemy. The first movie is a very good analogy to the Vietnam War. This was just someone's female wish fulfilment.

Can't have a hole when your ego is as big as modern day feminist's. That's why Naru smiles at the end of the movie.

Meanwhile as each savage died, I laughed harder and harder. By the end I was doing a rain dance of my own

I'd much rather watch Nausicaa, a classic example of a great female protagonist, than watch again this perfect example of Disney Style modern day female empowerment.

And they told it all visually. You see their weapons and appearance and instantly could tell the unique role they played. You knew who was the scout, the heavy gunner, the comms. Each loss meant one less major friend and asset gone till Dutch had nothing left but himself.

The. Best. Comment. Ever. *Mic Drop* xD

Laughing so hard, this scene needs to be in the next movie!

Yeah, like hype of the axe as the best one around, accidentally created as an ever-sharp and well balanced tool, that saved it's owner's life against not one, but two bears (dropping a tree on them which tree got 'chopped' partially and prepared before as part of a desperate attempt to a trap), and then their heads were taken by the same axe, and thus earned it's legendary status, and even got the name "The Chopper"...The name and legend reveal should be done close after the "Get to the Chopper!" line! Even asked the owner in disbelief about the ridiculous name: "Chopper?" where the owner tells it's legend. Only downside would be, that most of them would see the joke/homage miles away if the name was dropped too early. Maybe most part of the story about the the Legendary Axe could be told but cut in half before the name drops, by the battle-cry of the Predator, and when they are safe, the name of the axe would be explained: "Yeah, I even gave it the name, 'Chopper.'" And the other character would be like: Foolish old man... or sumthin'. The joke/homage could work out very well, IF written really good and in a clever way. :-p

What's a chopper? I think that's what everyone else in the movie would have said.

As someone who loves nature and watches documentaries, that bear scene was just unwatchable for me. That's not how bears behave. They aren't mindless killing machines. Wild animals are extremely risk averse and don't just mindlessly attack. And if a bear does come at you it's not going to be growling, it's going to be very calm as it tears you apart, you'll just hear snorting and breathing as it eats you.

@@sup9542 That was the sad part of the movie. Really unrealistic. Humans really aren't on any wild animal's internally programmed meals. They tend to avoid humans like the plague.

@Sup That bear saw an easy 100 lb snack. Winter is coming! Need fat! Why wouldn't it attack? Although, early in the fight, that bear did fuck up the predator. Nicely done Mr. Yogi.

@@sup9542 idk I feel like the bear scene was believable enough but any real lone wolf would have fled from the predator rather than charging at it.

@@sup9542it’s a movie with a fictional alien, what did you expect?

lol 100% agree

Valid point.

"it's not as shit as the last one! 10/10!"

When the bar has been set so low, raising it just a tiny bit seems a masterpiece by comparison. It’s why a mediocre looking woman looks hot next to a bunch of fat, ugly women.

@@DuggyDarko last one was shit indeed

I'd daresay some of what would be considered B action movies from the oldies would be superior than the utter shite that is churned out these days. Baack in the days when they didn't need to worry about *the message*

@@AvoidTheCadaver Some? I'd argue 'most' is more appropriate. Those movies were made as pure entertainment, not to push agenda and 'The Message'. I'd rather watch every action movie from 90s (for Nth time :) than any of the modern garbage.

@@lazyman7505 exactly, Until we all quit watching this woke garbage nothing will change, until we turn the channel and start watching all shows made before Wokeness nothing but change, don’t watch new movies until Hollywood learns it’s lesson, this movie was nothing more than woke garbage

More people from the younger generation needs to understand this. Most young kids my age don't care about old films cuz they're old. They like bad movies if they have pretty people in it. And it's not helped by ''the message'' which they carefully ignore even though they make the films pretty hard to swallow. My point is respect the past and improve.

How freaking good was the writing on the first one?

Mel Gibson is a massively underrated director.

Yes. Part of what a makes a great movie, is to make you feel like you are in the situation with them. When a movie doesn't create that, it is a lost movie for me, no matter how beautiful or expensive it may be.

Character wise Apocalypto is pretty great. Just don't mention historical accuracy.

@@Ep123C yes it’s not historically accurate, but still a good sample of a culture that few directors or people care about. At least at the entertainment industry, few really care to tell a good story about South America…. But I agree about historical accuracy being important.

Don't remember whether this movie was good or not, but this comment gives out a sigh of relief it wasn't shit

After watching this and reading your comment, I think I've come up with a way to make this movie more endearing and interesting. I'd like to see her really struggle against the Predator in the end, collecting some pretty nasty scars in the fight (like a lost eye or fingers or chunk out of her side or something). Ultimately she triumphs like Dutch did with cunning instead of strength, but like Dutch she comes back to her tribe kinda broken from the horror she witnessed, and goes straight to her mother to tell her what happened. Then she reluctantly takes the mantle of war chief in order to better protect the tribe, and has them move their territory, away from the trauma she had. Then years later, as well as showing us that she has nightmares of this monster she faced, we see that she has a kid or two now and she teaches them how to hunt, reciting the lines and lessons she got from her Mother and Brother. Then the kids see a shimmer, point it out to her, and she sees another Predator (or a few, akin to near the end of Predator 2). Then the scene cuts to black with the predator scream in the background. I think that sounds pretty cool and to the soul of the original, but what do you think?

@@AZIONG651 Sounds perfect to me. I loved the film, but the end, where she got the stick, and she saw to the little girl, who looked up to her was 4th wall breaking to me. Peak 2022 Hollywood moment right there! At least THE MESSAGE was done this aggressively at the very end, so I wasn't forced to watch the film with a turned stomach. Then again, the true ending with the 3 predator ships were also great. Shows that even if She had Her GirlBoss moment, they were believed by the Predators as worthy prey and we all know where that pistol ended up...I was aware of the few woke moments, but most of them were easy to ignore, as they don't take up 5% of the film, so I could just pretend them away. Like fighting off the settlers on Her own, like She is at Predator Hunter level at that point. The mudpit element was foreseeable, as it vastly nerfs anything organic, and Chekow's Gun was paying up, and I was happy about it. In my ending, the end, when She saw the little girl looking up to Her would be called and told what horrors are out there, and that She had to battle a Monster from Hell, and that many lives (distractions, where she studied Big P.) were needed to be sacrificed for her to be successful. She could inspire female strength but honor those who allowed her to win over her foe! Also, in my end, she would teach some sort of battlefield medicine, first and foremost the usage of the cold body flower, since it's super effective against the P.'s heat vision...Maybe in Prey 2...but for now, it was a very okay movie to me. Your ending sounds great too! ☺

Whoa, you've got concise and justifiable criticism, and an alternative to improve the story? You guys are obviously just misogynist and racist and you hate all women and POC because you can't handle...blah blah blah, I can't even carry on with that as a joke. I wish that wasn't how people were these days, unfortunately they are.

I'm not reading all that

​@@FlyingPaladin And we need to know about it why?

Ok now I HAVE to watch it because it's not everyday in the writers room that they would write a screen like that.

don't worry, as drinker and other people pointed out, the ending still doesn't make any sense

Yeah but then later when her brother explains what happened, he says that basically she DID defeat the Lion with her plan but she was just unconscious so he finished it off and took the credit for her work. Shocking...

Her ankle heals in record time for her to engage in parkour.

she fucks up and gets fucked up multiple times in this movie

She became a hunter the only way a millennial knows how. to killed everybody else so she was the only hunter left

Lol its called survival.

@@prophecyrat2965 selfish and cowardly is the more accurate term.

I am shocked to see the critical drinker say this was surprisingly good, this was nothing more than hot woke Hollywood garbage to me, I gave it a one out of 10

@@dislike_button33 yea all thise selfishy and cowardly prey that run from predators. Lol dude the movues is called “prey”.

Oh, that's easy. Movies stopped being about entertainment and became vehicles for fashionable sociopolitical ideology.

because you're nostalgic. nothing more. if you don't see the strengths of 100s of modern films, you either don't watch movies anymore or your taste in them stunted in the mid 90s.

@@aaroncostello8812 you mean like all movies have been to an extent in some time or another? you don't watch movies. you watch other people talk about them.

@@walter4180 Really? Says the guy who is watching and commenting on a video made by other people talking about movies? If you are going to be a hypocrite at least try to be subtle about it. 🤡🤡

@@aaroncostello8812 I do both. That's the difference lol

Danny was great character even though he hardly said a word in the movie, it's just different league to this feminist nonsense, great idea ruined by Disney's social engineering.

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@Good Teaching there is a huge difference between overcoming fears and them to never have existed at all. It seems like you're going out of your way to make an argument and not doing a very good job of it.

That does not work on feminist heroes. They are amazing and great in every possible way so they dont have any fears or weaknesses.

@Good Teaching It seems like you're hinging on a very narrow view of semantics to make your point. So I went ahead and went on Marrianm Webster to check this. It doesn't say anything about it being once present. The second definition is just straight up "not existing." So, the very specific definition you're trying to fit that word into isn't even right. Even if you were right, which again you're not, but if you were. What would you be trying to prove by tearing down an entire statement by devolving it down to the linguistics of a specific word? This is stuff poets do, which is fine in their specific setting, but this is the RU-vid comment section.

@Good Teaching Overcoming your fears is not losing them. It´s knowing them but not let them stop you from doing what needs to be done. Absence of fear is also called stupidity. Because you have to be an idiot to not be afraid.

yet somehow everyone loves this film

@@leadmetalproductions I can only summ it up with yesterdays conversation... Me: "It was bad...but...yeah...it wasn't THAT bad" Friend: "Yeah? Name one great thing about this movie" Me: " Well.... *cricked sounds*"

The bigger question is: Why are all men "toxic" towards a young and attractive female protagonist? Because she is constantly talking back maybe? Because she always wants to have the last word? Because she knows everything better and is resistant to feedback? Because she has an unbearable attitude almost all the time? I do not know, but usually you would think that in a tribe of approx. 40 members, all men would try to keep their options open and be nice to attractive women ...

Yeah but the Predator roared in agony off in the distance before she drove that spear though that fucking American CGI cave lions stupid I cant hunt for shit skull

I think this is waaay better than the standard mary sue stuff.

Her brother almost killed it alone If that spear would be few centimeters to the center of predator it would Pierce his heart And yes I would love seeing both of them fighting predator at the end. His experience and her ingenuity. We also have to remember our alien boy was so filled with wounds at the end he was dizzy, tech he used to close his wounds and start up healing would help but he still lost a lot and I mean a lot of blood

I mean it went back to the lion hunt how she injured it but didn’t kill it. Then with Predator Her brother fucked it up to the point it was weak then she finished it off.

But they needed their 'new Ripley'. Or grown up Newt. Lazy writing.

Yeah that would have been better.

right? Her brother is actually good at hunting and combat, she's good at strategy and cunning. Her plan is solid but the second the predator had her by the neck she shoulda been dead af. I mean shit it picked up a fucking bear earlier but she survives getting slammed into the ground by her neck? lol okay.

They show it happening in the credits, more predator ships showing up

This needs a post-credits scene where the waltz into the village, charging up their plasma casters.

Perhaps it's like what should have been the ending of Hobbit-Desolation of Smaug, but was instead being put into 5 Armies. The massacre that would make that plot point make sense, sadly happens in the first 5 minutes of the sequel. That would certainly subvert expectations. I don't know what happens to the main character, perhaps she survives, since the gun indicates a respect of her warrior ability? (Haven't watched film)

maybe you should've watched the credits

LMAO

Well she kind of lost her brother. I mean it was her brother and he was kind of cool. I missed him when he died.

she lost her brother, genius

I mean when she fought him 1v1 at the VERY end. Because it's kinda unrealistic that she alone beats the freaking feral predator with wit alone.

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im about halfway through the movie to where the French trappers have them tied to a tree. The only gripe really was when they went to bring her home and she was full on fighting them with punches and stuff....i get that theyre trying to show she's not a submissive female and she can hunt just as good as the rest of them but it just came off with a strange vibe. i have questions about the Predator himself but ill see if those questions are answered later. overall its been a pretty good movie - a bit slow in the beginning though.

You know I would like to believe that, but when you don't even teach your actors how to shoot a bow ( you can learn how comanche gripped their bows and arrows from one google search) and you almost kill your main lead in the first half because she stupidly falls in a mud pit, it seemed to me like an arrogant child with knowladge of few herbs and tracking got everyone killed in pursuit of her gender equality. Mixing modern non-problems with tribes of native americans feels so forced and stupid, just like all of this movie.

@@ajlendfulthe point is for her to be arrogant in the beginning , thats why she falls in the pit. Its not about equality at all

@@nicxshaw the point is the movie is just plan DUMB...

Doesn’t that kinda make sense though? Like training by yourself would make you blind to your own mistakes? Would be easier to learn watching someone else learning with you.

Vesimir was a boss

@@Jummugest yeah that was my point dude it's this new thing the kids are doing called "sarcasm" maybe you've heard of it?

To a certain extent you can. If you are shooting a bow and fail to hit the target, clearly something needs to be improved. Now, it may develop bad habits that can inhibit future growth, but learning on your own some is certainly possible

@@Jummugest I think training by yourself isn't that bad. But relying too much on it is.

I agree. He should have been the main character

But this guy showed too much "toxic masculinity" of course he had to be slain early doors for the Mary Sue Matrix gymnastics alien killer to flourish 😂😂😂😂💩

I agree. He really cared about the sister, but also showed her/told the reasons why she previously failed. Furthermore, he had the humility to tell her how she had actually helped him (through her own failure of falling out of the tree) that she had set everything up correctly for him to beat the lion. I found her to be a good fighter and quick thinker, but by no means a match for even a "low level" Predator. And, no one seems to mention the funky herbs she used to make her heat signature disappear. I cry BS there!

But overall, you gotta admit the tag team between the brother and sister to fight The Predator along with the dog is pretty good and they have a good choreography fight. I wish he survived in the end.

I really wish he was the main character. Seeing him fight the predator was wicked. Gave me some serious Turok vibes. He actually brought her back before going after the lion whereas she doesn't even try to get his body back after killing the Predator.

Just change “does it” to “do you,” and that would have been the most badass line in the film.

Definitely

totally is plot armor if Arnold had hard time years ago, no way this 100 pound little thing would of had a chance, fuck this movie and fuck hollywood

My thought is that it could have been a completely depressing movie where the main character gets killed trying to take on such a monstrous entity. Might’ve made it more realistic and dramatic. But I think the pricks at Disney might’ve had something to do with the character.

i think the predator should win one of these movies.

@@JewTube001 he should’ve won this movie

This Rookie Pred got literally arrowed, speared in the foot and then again through back by the brother, and shot by frenchmen before it even fought the girl. The Comanches rocked his shit more than Dutch and his boys back in the jungle.

Honestly they have a tendency of doing this to the heroes of every one of the movies. Dutch was tossed around for a while himself.

Because the predator has an honour code to not kill something it doesn't deem can fight back then learns yeah bitch can fuck me up. I dunno I'm not defending sloppy writing though people need to write better believable characters with actual arcs

Exactly, but why? Cuz it knows he's not supposed to stick a woman for it's a metaphor for rape? Woke by Disney. Haha

@@scottricci5063 The predator did the same thing to Dutch, it could have ripped him apart, instead, it was knocking him around.

@@voidtempering8700 aware. Still.

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Yeh I didn't get that one. Dillon loses an arm, do chicks want emancipation or not? What they could have done is give this girl the same "protection" the South American girl in Predator had: remain unarmed and therefore left alone by the alien for as long as she didn't carry a bow or axe. They could also have considered poison to kill. Also I don't get the impression there's blood and gore shown that contributes as well to a sense of horror as the first did. The skinned bodies, the gallons of blood...Predator showed a massacre that actually impressed.

@@FlorisDVijfde yeah no horror feel at all

Revenge is a good movie

they dont make teen slashers anymore

Yeah, the one line from this review that didn't land with me. In this day and age, who *doesn't* want to see an on-screen female character get horribly injured?

YES YES. The movie should have been dog vs predator. Shout out to that doggo 🐶

"Air Bud vs Predator," yup now *there's* a film.

I was honestly so scared through the whole movie that the good boy would be killed in the movie. Thank god he didn't.

@@junioraltamontent.7582 Turner and Hooch... and THE PREDATOR

The dog was unrealistic. Should have been a pit that ripped off the predator's face, and then when Mary Sue goes to pet it, it latches on to her arm and shakes, mortally wounding her.

a dog is a hunters tool. You may as well complain that she took a weapon with her when she went hunting.

@@madpuppet666 >tool More like helpful companion.

Wrote a whole book 😂

The toxic femininity in this movie overshadowed a key minority who didn't get enough exposure for all his good deeds - doggo!

What white male doesn't like a movie glorifying white males?

OMG 🤣 best point ever

Can always trust a mildly disinterested wife or girlfriend to see through the bullshit :') Mine is exactly the same

I am wondering if they were just trying to highlight the point that it wasn't about the hunt or going toe-to-toe, but rather finding a way to survive like her mother had said.

She did kill some rabbits.

Did you watch the movie? Is she stupid or on the spectrum? It's very easily explained and only requires a few neurons

Same way she got caught in a bear trap and didn't get her leg snapped like a twig. Mary sue plot armor.

i hope no-one tries her "attach a rope to an axe" style of fighting in real life - because ppl are gonna lose legs - what a ridiculous scene. Imagine watching that as you edit the film and thinking, "yup, that makes sense, that would work, and its totally badass!" Just NO - all the types of NO

I have been fighting all week about this very point... good luck my friend... and I agree 100%

"Much less worse" you mean better?

@@jesterssketchbook The part that annoys me is... use a fucking spear, if you want to have something act like a harpoon, USE A FUCKING HARPOON.

That was my main complaint as well, I mean they should flee in terror seeing this monstrosity. No one was ever remotely scared of him lmao. It was a decent movie, but yeah loads of inconsistencies.

Are you as shocked as I am that the critical drinker said in the title he thought it was surprisingly good? I thought this was nothing more than hot woke garbage

There's a moment where the brother sees it disappear and screams "You're a cheater", that made me smile.

​@@CapybaraConnoisseur89 Well for them it would be like yet another spirit they believed in, you either afraid of them or not, but all the scary shit he's doin- well he's a magical horrible demon, what would you expect.

I am SHOCKED, basically the critical drinker‘s review is saying that he thought it was woke as can be BUT that it was OK….wait what??? Are you effing kidding me? A movie that’s woke is garbage in my eyes, and I thought the critical drinker was the same way….but I guess not…. Please wake up critical drinker!, if it’s woke it’s hot garbage, nothing more

What’s worse is that studio execs will take this as a sign that strong generic female protags are great and worth investing in.

They grade on race

No

That's exactly what it is: grading on a curve. Our bar of expectations has been set so low that okay movies receive high praise for not being completely terrible.

@@jackroyaltea5034 it seems like that's what they've been trying to do for years

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yeah the only good 10 minutes of the movie sadly

Like The Force Awakens? 😂

That doesn’t make sense lol fans will be the first to hate something and make it known.

Like Halloween Kills, Jurassic World, etc.

@@TheHorrorShark Say what you want about Jurassic World but leave Halloween Kills out of it.

The Predator SHOT HIMSELF like an idiot... How is this any good?

That's basically the modern standard, yup. Oh how far we have fallen.

The bar is on the fucking floor

I think people say it's a masterpiece simply because we finally actually got a great new installment Predator movie in a very long time

@@msscott22 tbh the standards were also shit decades ago.

I know for a fact that the French Canadian voyageurs of the 19th century weren't all that different from the French dudes in the movie.

Know what is funny? In the og predator it is said that the predator comes during hot years to hunt men. They could have had this movie go for a while and show the men in the village or tribe be killed during months, tuss accomplishing her desire to hunt and maybe even avenge her family.

That would've been a really good motivator, and the push needed for her to be open to new ideas just for the sake of the tribe and the mother's words of "It's about survival".

Oh yeah, that tribe is done for, its blatantly obvious they won't survive.

Yah that actually sounds like an amazing story. Because it doesn't shove the ideals of certain people today on our ancestors.

This is actually a sick plot! It would have made it more intense and things on the line 🤙🏼

Even more amazing is John Wick actually gets hurt and clearly isn't some unbeatable guy. So he does get a lot of... terrible injuries.

@@remingtonsteele9431 True

on the one hand i agree with this, but in a recent video criticising the new she-hulk series, CD said that other characters pointing out her 'awesomeness' was a flaw in storytelling. too much show and no tell. in this sense the john wick way of introduction is a flaw. I think there is a double standard here. I keep wondering if anyone would enjoy a character like john wick, flaws and all, if he was female. This is not an accusatory wonder, I am genuinely curious.

@@lilcoffeebandit i get your point but then again the first time we saw Jhon wick, he get beaten and his dog get slaughter that make us symphatise, so when the Mafia boss tell the story about how badass Jhon wick in his past we wanna saw that little guy get killed so so bad. In other hand she-hulk never shown get trouble for what she do, so yeah (sorry about the terrible English)

@@lilcoffeebandit See, if you watch John Wick, you will notice that the movie doesn't actually begin with some homeboys praising him in the first five minutes. It starts with him being beat up, on the brink of death looking at a photo of him and a woman(we don't know it was his wife yet) on his phone. Then, the movie becomes a huge flashback to that moment. This immediately tells you this guy is going to see some action. And like Yoel said, we actually see him get beat up by home invaders that kill his dog, so before he gets praise from other characters, you secured your audience's will to root for him. This is an extremely important factor in a character's likability. There are key differences you overlooked in this comparison.

Only failing was that they didn't show that big ass Indian take it on with a knife. That would have been awesome, especially given that he's a better character (played by a better actor) than Schwarzenegger.

AND they had enough juice to insert a perfectly valid post-Watergate government secrecy angle with Carl Weathers’ character without glomming up the film!

Yeah, and they were affected by laws of physics... you know such as gravity and stuff, unlike her she probably realized that this is actually matrix.

Predator is a perfect example in how to handle and demonstrate power-scaling.

hell yeah

Yes!

Especially the dehumanized french clowns. I alwayas needed another reason to hate white colonialist men and this movie gave me an excellent reason why. Obviously sarcasm.

That's what I was saying Naru and to a much lesser extent her brother were the only ones who have character development. Everyone else is either Predator target practice or an exposition dump

Why is there so many Bots spamming links.. also one of them even is impersonating drinker lmao.

Arnold was the only 1 for me

If Arnold was a gay male it'd have a score in the 90s.

That's largely an issue with the Rotten Tomatoes format. New movies generally rate really high or really low when they first premier, then their score normalizes to a more accurate rating over time.

I hate life.

@@OperatorKain its also because there arent many reviews for the old movie. If you look at the site, there are only 55 reviews for the original movie, while there are over 200 for Prey.

Lol stay mad

So in defence of this for the predator in the film, he is shown healing his wounds in a way that this wouldn't be an issue earlier in the film. When he applies the healing you see the wound healing almost immediately. As for the protagonist, the entire finale starts to have issues including this, or when it is the predator can or cannot see her. A lot of the issues like the lack of predator vision establishing how he could see her again, how he didn't notice her when she ambushed him etc, really feel more like they ran out of budget though (as it was clearly shot on a smaller budget) rather then just oversights.

And the dog's tail was fine after a bit of ginger rub.

Cheap traps! She had this little scratch lol

delicate female ankles slipped through the huge gaps in the teeth and offscreen healing herbs , DUH

those aren’t bear traps 🤣🤦🏾‍♂️ those traps or for small game or coyotes/foxes. A bear trap would’ve instantly cut her leg off. Also it’s a movie dude it showed her putting some medicine on it and it wasn’t that deep of a wound. You want her to be limping the whole movie or die from sepsis for the sake of keeping it “realistic”

Predators usually clean up their handy work after a hunt. They probably came in and let the people flee in terror as they took the head and the gun with them as trophies.

That's a pretty cool origins story. But as far as I know the comics don't matter. Or treat them as some different reality. Just like the AvP movies.

@@vodkavecz what do you mean by, "they don't matter"? Its all fiction ain't it?

@@vodkavecz what do you mean by, "they don't matter"? Its all fiction ain't it?

A chadator recognizing a chad…nothing new

This is the whole movie lore vs comic lore debate. Ultimately, the film plots take priority over comic lore for things like Predator and here is why. Predator was a movie made in 1987 when I was a kid. The target audience was people like my dad. The 1st comic came out in 1989 and was targeted to kids like me. In 1990, the second movie came out and was targeted back to people like my dad who never read the comics. This is the juxtaposition that franchises find themselves in when they have meandering ownership. Hell even the old Star Wars Extended Universe had 6 different levels of canon, which is why Disney decided to just start over.

What I don't get is they could literally copy the first movie. Lure the predator in for the kill only to be taken out by a trap. The Predator showed all through the movie he was greedy for kills, yet they somehow were scared to show her actually THINK instead of girlboss.

Are you surprised as I am of the critical drinkers title saying that this was surprisingly good? Because this was one of the worst, most wokest movies of the year for me, I thought it was absolutely terrible

@@willw3736 - I feel Drinker's standards have dropped after being exposed to too many bad films. Like he's becoming desperate to find something good, so he settles for mediocre and says "well compared to worse stuff it's not so bad".

Yet here is drinker defending it. Honestly I think that convention he went to had some fun private party rooms and this review marks the beginning of his indoctrination into the message.

@@willw3736 Dear Will, I just didn't understand. Is it sarcasm? In his critique he tore apart the movie. I didn't get it.

I actually wouldn't have minded if Dakota Beavers had been the lead. I really thought he had good screen presence, and was a little disappointed he wasn't used more.

​@@msscott22 Dakota Beavers is legitimately a porn star name. In fact, porn stars would consider it too on the nose.

@@ComicGladiator lol yea, it totally is.

Are you as shocked as I am that the critical drinker said he thought this was woke but good? If it’s woke it’s BAD…I thought he was on board with this but I guess not, when did woke equal surprisingly good? Absolutely incredible, this movie was hot woke garbage

Wakanda Forever is coming

There are a lot of missed opportunities in action movies, where instead of making the audience more fearful of the enemy and ramping up the suspense, they want to show the good guys doing nifty tricks. At the very least find a good balance between the two.

I disliked the whole thing, but pulling the predators tooth off with one hand? We're talking about a creature that beat a bear to death with its bear hands and she just pulls his tooth off like a lego?

@@cashkrop with it's _bear_ hands? 😉

@@TheRealNormanBates Obviously the Predator grabbed the bear’s paws and began slapping the bear’s face while saying, “Why are you slapping yourself? Why are you slapping yourself?” Because the Predator is so strong though, it actually killed the bear with its bear hands/paws.

AND she got hit with a shield (and received no injuries) not minutes after that same shield had decapitated a guy and cut completely through the tree behind him... duh fuhgh?

Plus man and women helped them without doing the job for them.

nothing but pure facts.

There's also that woman in the AvP

EXACTLY.

@@WingMaster562 Lex is underrated she rocked. Black female without making a big deal.

Predator is my 2nd favorite, with John Carpenter's The Thing my all time favorite.

Nah those movies are whack. Xenomorphs are better.

@@metasprite5648 Kinda true but clearly a troll comment

Prey has helped me realize Prey is by far my least favorite Predator movie.

It's a good movie and I also like it a lot but in the end it's just Arnie fights a monster. Not more.

The entire point of the first Predator film is that physical strength and big guns isn't what leads to them beating the predator, all the muscular 80s action heroes got massacred, only the ones smart enough to use their enviroment to their advantage and learn about their enemy survived

@@richardblazer8070 Yeah good point. I was more commenting in general in films.

@boo hoo flag that crap as "unwanted commercial content or spam". Comments like that are all over popular RU-vid content.

They even said in predator 2 that he died of a heart attack due to PTSD from the encounter, obviously this was an excuse for Arnold not being in the movie but it still stresses the point that what he went through is traumatic.

@don't be surprised islam is gay

Apparently we're supposed to think sociopaths are stunning and brave now.

Honorable mention is Predator 2's Danny Glover character who throughout the movie would take zero shit and have a comeback ready for anyone who comes his way just to look stoic after his encounter with the Predator. Government agent gave him attitude but he didn't even have the energy to reply. Just stiff arm him and look into his eyes with the expression "I don't have time for this." He only smiled after looking at the pistol given to him that was proof of his accomplishment and him avenging his comrades. A smile to lift his spirit to keep fighting through even more obstacles, not one to boast in the middle of his accomplishment. He has to keep fighting for the ones who were lost. That if they(the predators) come back that he would be ready for them. I seriously don't know why Predator 2 gets so much flack as it's a classic. Yes it's got that 80s syndrome of crazy out of context one liners but it's pretty tame and doesn't marginalize the Predator's threat level like the other movies do. It being in the city gave it that Bull in a China shop feeling. Basically unstoppable

But then it bounces around on the trees 2 minutes after it

@@paulie.walnuts2838 that is true....so it was all for effect lol

@@jimmi114 in a way it worked. The fire they set allowed them to capture the predator and battle it. Worked out better than in a full lush forest. Of course they lost but still lol

@@jimmi114 if they didnt burn the tree... the ash wouldnt damage his cloaking... they had to somehow make him visible for a fight and thats what they came up with. lmao.

@@reignmans hadn't thought of that....they even make a nod to it. When the pred walks into the field its cloaking is clearly useless and it turns it off.

There are many scenes that just don't make sense and feel like a 5 year old thought of them

@Danny Nebula right!! I truly thought the movie was doing well up until she started engaging with the predator, with little to no struggle just dominating the beast like she delt with 5 or more of them before.

Yup and even women going to war a couple of times in their life wasn't rare either. Usually it was done for revenge if a family member or husband was killed.

Right but the reality is was men were disposable. You couldn't send women in masses or you're sacrificing the future of your tribe. Without someone to bear children there's no future. Men are akin to worker bees protecting the queen. I know modern feminism hates historic women's roles but women on average are just better at care-taking roles and from an evolutionary stand point it makes sense. One of my favorite movies is Alien. Ripley never used physical strength to overpower the xenomorph because that would make no sense. In Aliens she became a caretaker/savior for a small girl. Hollywood has this stupid idea that putting women in as lead roles just means you stick them in as placeholder for what a man would do.

I also can't get over how not-muscular she is. After training that hard, and gaining what you need to become a hunter, she would look way different.

after 1600 when the comanche turned into bloodthirsty warriors that was indeed a thing for the comanche tribe. only boys were hunters and warriors and they were trained for it while riding a horse since they were children. Women were just that, gatherers , cooks , cleaning the skins off of animals caught and doing witchcraft-medicine.

@ 100lbs and 5'5 is more then enough to handle a 800lb and 7ft predator right?

Great idea but can't do that. Woman learning from a man is big no-no.

training day x predator, she's never had her shit pushed in

Fish out of water? It wasnt a fish out of water story 😂

@@CsRacks she literally learns from them....🤦🏻‍♂️

@@CsRacks yeah some women would go crazy if they saw that .

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Those guys are cartoonishly evil, dont think about it because they sure didnt

“white man mean” that’s all the research they did

You’re absolutely correct. I had the same thought. Most of the tribes allied with the French against the English in the 1750s. But even the English settlers out West in the 1800s got along alright with the natives. It was the US Army showing up that really ruined relations.

Also the French never ventured into Comancheria. That was Spanish territory and their one and only venture there turned out poorly. See Fort Saint Louis for details. I'd believe this more if the trappers were Spainiards.

Yeah the French/canadians are always depicted as absolute, buffoonish evil in american movies. It's quite hylarious, especially considering without the French there wouldn't be america. Nice loyalty and gratefulness

Hey! Thats how TheCriticalDrinker seems to want female characters to be writen. What a coincidense!

Implausibly good. As was Female Protagonist.

It's a fucking dog, not Al Pacino, get a grip!

@@sanz7820 Spoiler: And got them all killed, you know since they were concerned about her well being and everything.

Yeah that part of Drinker's analysis kind of rubbed me the wrong way. By the end of both movies, there were a lot of failed attempts to kill the predator, and like you said, Dutch didn't use his strength to kill the predator, same as what Naru did. Otherwise I mostly agree with what was said in the video.

I'm glad somebody is saying this! Too many people are complaining that a 100 lb girl managed to take down the predator. I think Naru was a breath of fresh air. Not the deepest or most nuanced (neither was Dutch) but a break away from your typical action lead. And the typical female lead.

exactly bro

Nah! It's just that he is funny as hell.

You’re 100% right, although I only managed to watch the first half of the film if that, what character development that was was very poor and consisted of the usual young girl being scorned for having ideas above her station. She failed at absolutely everything until she made the magic axe? And the Braves looked like Ladyboys. But they didn’t want to develop the characters realistically, they gave us 21st century political views instead of 18th century Comanche culture. 10 bears from the outlaw Josie Wales was a real Comanche brave, if you haven’t seen the scene from the movie it’s on RU-vid and gives you a better idea of Comanche customs, and it’s a 3 to 4 minute scene. Sorry about the long reply, but in a nutshell I agree with you completely. Stay safe👍

that might work if the actors were any good and the protagonist was somewhat realistic.. But the only good actors here are the dogs

@@kgbstudio I was going to write that but didn’t, Kudos is to you 😂👍 Be safe

Sounds cliche af

@@kgbstudio yeah bc your movies have grossed how much again? lol...........

After this the predators will say "if it bleeds we can't kill it".

You are too intelligent for Hollywood. Go away, now.

literally had to use these lines and throw in an episode where they track another dangerous predator after wounding it

atleast should've had Naru (the girl) say it. Taabe never even saw it bleed... I think...

>> That's the line they should have used. >> The problem with this is that the Yautja looks like a Wendigo- allthatsinteresting.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/wendigo-art.jpg Which, while more common among the tribes of the Northeast, was one of a pantheon of demonic, ghostly and cruelly Predatory supernatural creatures known widely to the Native American cultures. They have four or five definitions of big foot for instance. They all have (tall, skinny, smells bad) traits shared by the Yautja and the first nations were _terrified_ of them. Which would make sense for a creature whose inviso suit is seemingly coated in /fire/ when it switches off and whose other abilities might well look like magic to a culture which had only recently seen steel and firearms. Yet the Comanche are not so much 'unimpressed' as _incognizant_ of what they just saw and what it means as part of their shamanistic world view. Not 'Oh darn, it's hot again...' but 'Oh dear...the gods hate us, we're screwed.'. The original movie suffered from this problem too, only in reverse: Special Forces know what a tree sniper is. They use the technique themselves, to extend line of sight on distant targets and provide a genuine look down (tree stand) ability on targets which are 'waking' through the bush. We faced them all the time in the Pacific Island campaign, against the Japanese firing through multicanopy jungle. And again vs. the NVA/VC in Vietnam. Yet Dutch and his team can't seem to figure this out, from wound impact angles, even though the technique has also been used, by the likes of Roger's Rangers, since the French And Indian Wars, pre 1776. The natives should have panicked, because the Yautja tech would have looked like magic and it's appearance as well as ability to mimic voices would have matched a particular, 'evil spirit', definition. The SOF should have acted against the Yautja's arboreal tactics, sooner, as just another operator.

Shit did mourn her brother....you need to rewatch the movie

What the entire fuck are u and anyone else in this comment section talkin About😂 y’all thrive off negativity

Dummy

Spot on.

especially everyone seen better movie years ago, plus it was big dude Arnold having hard time, no way this 100 pound piece of shit would of survived, movie is BS

who is the second?

@@gonzalvarodri Jesse Ventura, Governor of Minnesota from '99-'03 on the Reform Party ticket. And only Reform Party candidate to win that high a position in office.

Apparently Regan and John Lodge were both actors-turned-governors, but they never worked together.

They literally had to do nothing - they were French.

Why is it in every frontier movie I have seen the French are really evil? What did the French do?

😂😂😂

Oh they were French.... In that case they didn't do it right. Wouldn't French people surrender at the first sign of the enemy?! LOL

@@highlander723 If it were the 20th century french then yeah I guess

I felt almost nothing when watching this film.

Yeah, because if you are a 100lbs girl that just believes in herself, you can fistfight a predator. 🤣

@@metallboy25 😂 ofcccc

i wish more people would realize that writers today suck. you're right, they're scooped by the bucket and mixed with other terrible writers.. then that bucket is splashed over a canvas and producers expect it to look like art. just pitiful.

Aren’t you shocked to see the critical drinker‘s title saying that this was surprisingly good? This was one of the worst movies I’ve seen all year, woke Hollywood garbage, nothing more

Arnies Predator, Director John McTierman, was his 2nd movie, writer Jim Thomas, was his first movie, John Thomas was his first movie. They also wrote, Wild wild west, so to say cream of the crop. They had an original idea and made a good movie but because they were cream of the crop. (McTierman did go on with Die Hard and Hunt for Red October.)

The movie was never good; it was just mediocre.

@@Astares9 I genuinely would like to know WHERE these writers come from. I've read fan-fiction FAR better than the scripts of modern movies/TV shows/comics.

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So the movie is a good movie.

@@djantouahmed7319 it's good but not the best