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Hi - this is in response to a requested video on pricing Junk Journals. Thank you for joining me, please give this video a thumbs up, Tinax :
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@jeanneblondewomanstamping9788
@jeanneblondewomanstamping9788 2 года назад
I can’t imagine that any of us are selling our journals for anywhere near the true cost of our time. Handmade items considered "crafts" and especially those (primarily) made by women have always been waaaaaaaaaay undervalued. Vintage handmade quilts, embroidered pieces, etc., sell for ridiculously low prices. 😢😢😢
@angelburba635
@angelburba635 2 года назад
In your humility you also failed to mention the premium added for the maker. Journals from someone such as you, 49 Dragonflies, Tracy Fox, Gayle, and about a dozen other named personalities will sell for a higher price than something made by an unknown maker I think.
@judiemjacobson4613
@judiemjacobson4613 2 года назад
But what do you actually sell your journals for? The great big one that you showed the most how much? The folio how much? The two smaller journals how much?. It would be helpful to know
@CrimeAsylum
@CrimeAsylum 2 года назад
My thoughts as well.
@shabbydabbydoodah
@shabbydabbydoodah 2 года назад
The larger ring bound journal will be around $100, I hope this helps x
@richardeidemiller6739
@richardeidemiller6739 2 года назад
Your transparency, disclosure, pricing and just plain honesty is admirable. Once you gave shipping cost breakdown for many areas now discussing your journal pricing. As far as people I watch you are the only one who does this. I personally could not afford a $ 200.00 journal, especially with the cost of everyday necessities rising. Again I admire your openness to discuss these things. I wish I knew you personally, you are the type of person who would be lovely to have as a friend. Vicki
@holyxuxa
@holyxuxa 2 года назад
I price mine according to what the market will bear. If mine are selling very quickly, I raise the price. If not selling at all, I may lower the price, but always I keep my time and effort in mind. And yes, I have favorites too. Nice video, love your work!
@frenchartantiquesparis424
@frenchartantiquesparis424 2 года назад
This is shocking! Someone re-sold your handmade journals? Do you know that is ILLEGAL on ETsy? She literally could get her store shut down if enough people complained about her shop.
@shabbydabbydoodah
@shabbydabbydoodah 2 года назад
Oh no, I didn’t know that x
@ninkagiraudet5141
@ninkagiraudet5141 Год назад
Correct. Only vintage and craft supplies can be resold. Anything under “ homemade” is not allowed ro resell
@WingsofTimeCrafts
@WingsofTimeCrafts 2 года назад
I'm intrigued by one of these taking 12 hours (unless I heard or interpreted incorrectly)...I'm nowhere near done in 12 hours 😳 So far mine tend to be less decorative as I've still got the mindset that journals need space to be written in and therefore have flips, flaps, tucks, belly bands, but I can't yet bring myself to cover entire pages....yours are beautiful.
@joyjournal6157
@joyjournal6157 2 года назад
Me too! Mine take waaay more than 12 hours.
@scarlettsugar8159
@scarlettsugar8159 2 года назад
Same! I love adding pretty embellishments but make lots of things extra to add journaling space. I need to add at least some areas to breathe on every page because I'm assuming someone will want space to actually journal/write, add their own Ephemera, make the journal their own etc. I find my journals get quite fat since for every highly decorated page, I'm adding extra stuff to make up for the loss of writing space.
@mariespaperlab7186
@mariespaperlab7186 2 года назад
My last journal I logged almost 200 hours making it. 😳
@starlightcraftsGB
@starlightcraftsGB 2 года назад
It usually takes me 2/3 months to make a journal from start to finish :)
@tamielizabethallaway2413
@tamielizabethallaway2413 2 года назад
Personally I'm in love with the smaller pink and cream clock cover journal the best! That would be more "valued" by me compared to the super chunky colourful ones. Even the Amazon packaging one is beautiful to me. I think the price of anything is justified by the person who wants to own it, and that price can go as high as their desire is. . These are one-off pieces, even if not made with one-off items inside. I don't care about something "being" vintage if it's nothing special to look at. I'd rather have a beautiful vintage style printable page, that is just dreamy and gorgeous, than a yellow brittle page from the back of an old encyclopedia. Obviously we all have different tastes, but I'd want a journal first and foremost that I can write in, not too over embellished, feminine, pretty, cohesive, tasteful, made with precision - I'm not a fan of loose threads dangling or haphazard placement - but again, some people like that style. . So I think the biggest factor in pricing....is targeting the perfect buyer. It's like antiques, you see those TV shows buying and selling antiques, and an old plate COULD be worth £300, so for £12 it's worth buying it to sell. BUT only if the buyers who really seek that type of china are present in the auction house on the day of the sale. The reality is, they're lucky if they get £25 for it on the day, bought by someone who knows it's worth more but isn't about to fork out a fortune for something they're not that into. If you had a buyer who had an entire dinner service and was missing one plate...they may go bonkers and throw £500 or more at you and beg for that plate, because to them, that completes a full set that could be worth thousands! . My point is, with rare pieces, and having a small business at home, you're limited to selling to your specific audience, so your prices are reflected by your viewers. A large proportion of which I would guess are female, and if they have the time to watch many junk journalling videos on RU-vid, they are mostly therefore at home a lot of the time. This would include mothers with small children, people who are unemployed or only work part time, and I know for a fact that a huge amount of your viewers are like me, long term health issues, unable to work, at home most of the time, very few real life friends, and people who like to sit at home crafting themselves. . I personally have never bought a journal made by anyone else... because I can make them myself specifically made for me. I buy Digi Kits, because I can't make those...if I knew how to or had the necessary software to make them, then that would reflect on how many I bought from others. My point is, you have a large audience, and yet still, very few of those viewers can justify spending £100 on a journal...not because they don't think it's worth that, but because their child needs new shoes, their car needs fixing or they still have to finish off decorating their lounge and haven't picked out the curtains yet! . With one-off items, you could easily sell one of your journals for a thousand pounds - if a millionaire was being pestered by his daughter because she wanted that specific journal! The true value lies in it's rarity...and finding the perfect buyer with money to burn! . Your pricing reflects on your audience mainly, not on your skill or how much time and effort you've really put in sourcing everything in the first place! Online shopping or browsing car boot sales or charity shops can easily take hours at a time, so even if you found a vintage chunk of lace for a fiver, it's not really £5 when you consider petrol, parking, and the hours where you could have been earning £20+ an hour at a workplace. That "bargain" chunk of lace may technically have cost you £50 by the time you get back home! And that's before you've even snipped into it! . Guaranteed your journals are actually WORTH £235 when you price each and every item used, and the time spent hunting for the contents - not to mention the week or so it took you to make, in between running your home and being a busy Mum! 😳 . You don't think to charge that much though because of the riff raff watching you! 😂🤣😅 LMFAO! We're mostly a bunch of working class ordinary people so you have to factor us into the equation. You'll have to ditch us all and target the toffs in Chelsea who spend ludicrous amounts of money on some giant framed paint spill they call modern art these days! 😂 . Then you'll earn the proper price these cost you to make. 😘😘😘
@cherylradford3733
@cherylradford3733 2 года назад
I love buying from crafters who create lovely creations and have a sweet family. I feel like you are my friend. I live in Texas and when I buy things overseas I know the cost is greater. I just don't like when people charge way greater than the actual shipping. I think you should charge more. Your items are so different with your own printables and all the ephemera you create. Plus I would love to think my purchase helps you spend more time with your precious children. I've learned so much from you and I would splurge to buy a journal from you. Creative people usually underestimate the worth of their work. This is your business. Your price may be to high, if it doesn't sell after a month or two. Until that point is reached.....charge more. Love to you and your kiddos.
@raggedyann4372
@raggedyann4372 2 года назад
Shipping includes packaging and cost to drive to where you ship, plus shipping cost. Unfortunately everything is expensive. Lots of sellers return overage, but you know ahead of time what your pay, if you don’t want to pay, don’t buy. Crafts are very expensive to make and take take many long hours for the beautiful products. Buy what you Love❤️🥰
@carolynjw1955
@carolynjw1955 2 года назад
I love your thoughts on this. You are so sweet and humble. I truly enjoy your videos and love your heart. ❤️
@cLyon-xi9os
@cLyon-xi9os 2 года назад
Thank you so much for doing this video. There is so much confusion about Junk Journals and their value. I tend to think that the amount of “real” vintage, one off, design materials as well as the craftsmanship should be the most important things to consider. In their purest form, these journals are art and rarely do artists get paid well for their time or creativity during their lifetime! I, personally, don’t like the digitals because then you are missing one of the main reason I do junk journals - to keep these beautiful pieces of paper and materials (and memories) out of a landfill. Using ink and paper seems to add to the environmental problem instead of achieving that purpose. I guess you should be able to resell any piece of art you own. Maybe the high price she sold your journals for is a compliment to your reputation and talent!
@BeauNDarrows
@BeauNDarrows 2 года назад
... I think I'd be horrified if I found out that someone who bought something I made was reselling it for 3 or 4 times what they paid. Especially if they aren't saying where they got it from, giving proper credit. I'm not a wholesaler. I don't mass-make things for them to be resold. Unless they're auctioning it for charity, I'd be absolutely livid.
@theresa_lili
@theresa_lili 2 года назад
Always sign your art work. Hiding a business card in a pocket is a good idea.
@FayeDarling65
@FayeDarling65 2 года назад
Alway sign and list this item on instagram that’s beneficial. Also copyright
@loisfrancis7896
@loisfrancis7896 2 года назад
Miss T you are correct you price it to sell however you have to cover your cost and make a profit so that you have the extra moneys to purchase more stuff to craft with otherwise you are just spinning your wheels we are here to enjoy what we do and make a living also at least supplement our income and postage has steadily gone up so that have to put into account also also printable are so expensive when you pay 26 dollars then you have to print the papers out the ink is costly and good paper is costly even the wax paper the bakers paper the coffee dyed papers the doilies lets get real it is very costly /expensive to do what we do so ladies/gents please price accordingly and lets have fun doing what makes us so very happy experience speaking here.
@judigullett9060
@judigullett9060 2 года назад
Having a you tube channel has its advantages, because you can show each and every page in the journals. They seem to sell quicker when advertised on you tube. Thank you for your take on the pricing aspect.
@kindredkey
@kindredkey Год назад
My 2 cents :: I think the answer is her journals are at least worth $234... This is not a ridiculous amount of money for the time, materials and talent. When you really crunch the numbers this comes out to $19 an hour (assuming it took you 12 hours to make the journal) (this does not include material costs). The fact that the other seller was able to sell TWO so not just a one-off situation, at that price speaks volumes. I know that this is so hard especially as women to properly price our effort and talents but we gotta start somewhere. I get what you mean about how fast you want to sell them, but a week or two is not bad at all. It takes me easily a month to make a journal so for one to take 2 weeks to sell and at the higher price point is awesome! This about how many of the lower priced journals you would have to make/sell in those 2 weeks to get that same monetary outcome! You say it takes you 12 hours to make one of your journals... I wonder if you're including coffee/tea dying papers, pre-making clusters or other decor and any other processes like this that you might do "off camera" to prep for a journal. I guestimated a journal I made took about 60 hours and was completed over a 5 week timeframe.
@honestly8015
@honestly8015 2 года назад
This was interesting, Tina, with everything you said very practical and probably much as anyone would expect. What I didn't hear was prices for the journals you have completed and are presumably for sale or have just recently sold. While I agree all must evaluate and come to individual conclusions, I, for example still have no idea how much a journal might cost if I wanted to purchase one. I went to your Etsy shop and didn't see any of those journals in the shop. While I don't sell anything, I've been thinking lately about purchasing a journal, but I'd sure like to have an idea of what I could expect for what amount of money. This may not be presented very clearly. I would have liked, and it would have been very valuable to me, to know how much those journals you make sell for. That way I can either stop dreaming of having one, or try very hard to get one. Thanks Tina, for being one of the most genuine and authentic creators I watch. I've enjoyed you for several years now and wish you and your family all the best.
@Paintspotsandpaper
@Paintspotsandpaper 2 года назад
I quite agree, I’ve often looked in your shop to see what prices to expect, but of course, they have been sold by then. I was hoping to get a rough price of your journals, altered books and folios but you didn’t mention your prices. You shouldn’t be embarrassed in any way for the price you charge, as I think your journals etc are definitely worth it, but please give some idea of what you charge, Thankyou Tina for all of your wonderful and inspiring videos and thankyou for sharing x
@peaceofpaperbindery
@peaceofpaperbindery 2 года назад
I agree. Having an idea of what some of your journals would be listed for would be very helpful. Because, as others have said, by the time I look at a shop, everything has sold out, and the prices are no longer visible.
@peaceofpaperbindery
@peaceofpaperbindery 2 года назад
I agree. Having an idea of what some of your journals would be listed for would be very helpful. Because, as others have said, by the time I look at a shop, everything has sold out, and the prices are no longer visible.
@CarynHopkins
@CarynHopkins 2 года назад
I’m with the ladies comments above. But I know they are all sold😅 as they are sold. I also heard there is a waitlist to get a journal. Is that true?
@sharonolsen3814
@sharonolsen3814 2 года назад
Really good information! People are so gutsy and ruthless! How do they sleep well!
@jenndotson6718
@jenndotson6718 Год назад
Women are notorious for underselling themselves. Western cultures are also notorious for undervaluing artwork. In order for us to change that culture, we have to price our artwork with a proper value. My first journal sold for $200. It was a custom piece of work, and most of the price went into the cover art and the engineering of the music box compartment. I would have loved to do more, but I had to keep myself in “check” to make sure I didn’t end up creating a piece of art for free because I didn’t pay myself for the hours of work that went into it.
@DeerheartStudioArts
@DeerheartStudioArts 2 года назад
The nice journals like yours are one of a kind art and there will be one person in the world who loves it AND can afford a higher priced item of greater value. If we were mass producing things for the middle class they might have to save up to buy a journal of high calibre. Your aesthetic has value! I hope you don’t depress your prices. Obviously there are many people who subscribe to your channel and that confirms high appreciation for your journals.
@brookematthews4431
@brookematthews4431 2 года назад
She is right 100% all of them are beyond beautiful
@lalagamma4452
@lalagamma4452 2 года назад
I never saw any of your journals before they are sold. The fact that they are sold so quickly is a testament to what an impressive treasure each one is. Thanks for the advice and guidance. 🥰🐞💗
@milliegateley8862
@milliegateley8862 2 года назад
Hi Tina, I have made several journals, and as you said they take a lot of time and materials. For that reason I have never put them up for sale, I don’t believe that people would pay what I think they are worth. So they all sit on my antique sideboard and look beautiful. I love them all. I’m presently working on a dragon journal, and it’s looking awesome! Hugs to you my friend. Long live the King.
@shabbydabbydoodah
@shabbydabbydoodah 2 года назад
It’s fantastic that you make them for yourself, and I love that you display them looking beautiful on your sideboard. A dragon journal sounds an awesome theme. Trying to get used to saying king, it’s going to take a while, lol x
@milliegateley8862
@milliegateley8862 2 года назад
@@shabbydabbydoodah I purchased from you a long time ago and still keep my purchase on display in my craft shelves. I sent you happy mail with some laces and ribbons and a piece of Tim Holtz fabric, and I think 1or 2 rings and a little one for your daughter. I am broken hearted that the Queen is gone, I loved her so much. Hugs from Colorado, but formally from Hot Florida. Do you remember me?
@JessicaHarris
@JessicaHarris 2 года назад
I agree entirely with everything you described! Such a struggle…. And no one talks frankly about it.
@namayalove
@namayalove 2 года назад
Hi there, thank you so so much for sharing your experience, very helpful I have learned so much! I didn't realized that this is what I was looking for. How heartbreaking is it to find your precious creations sold on another market. But I feel it was a great experience for you to see your worth aswell. Actually for the same reason I price my books higher, but Iam a slow passionate crafter. I can't duplicate anything I craft and also create other handmade creations, I started junkjournalling about 1,5 year ago (Iam a diarist and use my own books. I love the quality) but have been collecting materials for about 4+ years and being an artist since childhood. I might look like a beginner business wise but not as a crafter, so after a few markets I found out no one wants to buy a book from €200 on a small markets in town(I understand). Social media platforms doens't seem to add up value for me as it takes more headache to keep up and don't get results, so that is the lesson Iam learning now, I guess.. I feel the need to summon up my courage and jump into RU-vid. Thank you for the reflection, my apologies I never ramble so much, new subscriber here, sending you much love and appriciation. ❤ Oh and I totally love your journals! I feel creative again.. after a while, Much thanks!
@shabbydabbydoodah
@shabbydabbydoodah 2 года назад
Oh thank you so much, I am really thrilled that you found some useful things in this video. Selling handmade creations is definitely a tricky thing. Good luck to you, I wish you every success. Welcome to my channel btw 🤗 x
@daisyfieldparrks9320
@daisyfieldparrks9320 2 года назад
235 US dollars??!!! Wow! I don't think I could afford any journal that amount even if I wanted it and I LOVE journals. Do you put your name or a label on your journals now? I think as time goes on and you become a "brand" that any size journal price (again, within reason) becomes a factor as well. For example, a "Tina" made journal becomes valuable to have and so the price sometimes justifies what customer are paying. I love your journals, so I am glad they are affordable!! This was a great video and very helpful for those of us who are just getting started. The journals are BEAUTIFUL. Thanks to the follower who requested this video and thank you doing this video!
@shabbydabbydoodah
@shabbydabbydoodah 2 года назад
Thank you so much Daisy. Yes I do have a stamp label now that I mark my journals with. £235 is a HUGE amount isn’t it? I was shocked when I saw them I must admit. I am really pleased that you found the video helpful xx
@TinkITreasurebooks
@TinkITreasurebooks 2 года назад
What is the low and price of your journals? I have never seem one for sale so even though the info you give on what you think about is helpful, you did not talk about prices except for postage which I feel you might be low if shipping to the USA. I'm still lost
@nancypyter1511
@nancypyter1511 2 года назад
Great information Tina! I have recently started my RU-vid channel in the past year and am trying to also sell my journals. I do flip throughs on my channel and I have an Instagram. I really don't want to do Etsy, and I just am selling them for just enough to be able to buy more supplies. I guess I try to think, what would I pay for this journal. But without a shop, how else can I get my journals out there for people to see? I think some journals I see are priced outrageously, but they sell. So some of us smaller makers need to find out how to get a break.
@retroqueenbeeart
@retroqueenbeeart 2 года назад
It takes me a long time to make journals? Anyone else?
@jeanneblondewomanstamping9788
@jeanneblondewomanstamping9788 2 года назад
Absolutely agree. Takes me a very long time. It’s a labor of love.
@shabbydabbydoodah
@shabbydabbydoodah 2 года назад
Yes, they do take a really long time I completely agree xx
@gigidtx
@gigidtx Год назад
idk, kinda disagree, I love your journals and your digitals, but yes, IMO they are worth over $235. I have purchased regular journals for over $150 and I make journals, it is the beauty I am buying. I paint and other painters have bought my work. Several creators I follow sell for over $350-$400+.
@shabbydabbydoodah
@shabbydabbydoodah Год назад
Thank you so much, I really appreciate your kindness. Wow, that really is a crazy amount! Xx
@bettymetz3746
@bettymetz3746 2 года назад
I would love to own one of your gorgeous journals but they most likely sell immediately when posted. I also would have loved to hear your asking price for your large wonderful journals. They are sooooooo unique and lovely. Blessings from Betty in Ohio.
@renicebales8098
@renicebales8098 2 года назад
You can almost always find the price of items sold on Etsy. There are many RU-vid videos detailing how to find this information.
@brendabrown8027
@brendabrown8027 2 года назад
I'm working on a vintage Victorian journal. It is my first full sized journal. I've only made mini journals. I've been asked if I'm going to sell my journal but I know I could never part with it. I can't imagine the price I'd have to charge considering the amount I spent to create it,as well as my time. Thank you for sharing how you price your journals.
@shabbydabbydoodah
@shabbydabbydoodah 2 года назад
It’s definitely a tricky thing, especially when you have invested so much time and love into making it, I can totally get you saying that you could never part with it x
@divachictidbitstreasures9884
If you think of this is artwork and not crafting, you can price them higher...artists draw a big circle or throw splashes of paint on a canvas and charge thousands of dollars then your artwork has great value...tactile...beautiful...nostalgic and useful...they are starting people at amazon at $15 per hour...I am sure you are worth that!
@shabbydabbydoodah
@shabbydabbydoodah Год назад
Thank you so much, that is a really lovely way to look at it x
@lynnmartin5141
@lynnmartin5141 2 года назад
Wow!what a cheek, re selling your junk journals. I’m flabbergasted and think that’s quite disgusting! But you live and learn, I suppose. Great videos, your junk journals are stunning. Xx😁💜
@morningflowerB
@morningflowerB 2 года назад
I have a fortune tied up in materials. If l sold off all of my craft/art items. I'd have thousands of dollars back. It's expensive.. especially, if you buy lots of dies, stamps, stencils.. you name it l got it!
@shabbydabbydoodah
@shabbydabbydoodah 2 года назад
Lol, I know what you mean x
@annaendsley2188
@annaendsley2188 2 года назад
Omg! It only takes you 12 hours to make those gorgeous journals? If so I need a video on how you are organized lol. Thanks for sharing! Love your journals and your channel. ❤️
@namayalove
@namayalove 2 года назад
Me to, it takes me ages to finish one...slow crafter here.
@jeanneblondewomanstamping9788
@jeanneblondewomanstamping9788 2 года назад
Yes! We need Tina to give us some time-saving tips. Take me hundreds of hours to make a journal!
@juliemonroe105
@juliemonroe105 2 года назад
I could never finish one in 12 hours, I must be slow. 🤣
@rncine
@rncine 2 года назад
I started mine 2 years ago and still going 😂
@Paintspotsandpaper
@Paintspotsandpaper 2 года назад
@@jeanneblondewomanstamping9788 Yep, I fully agree.
@hollylapinski3328
@hollylapinski3328 2 года назад
Thank you for your insight. I am new to Junk Journal making, but have sold pottery and jewelry at craft fairs and markets for years. Pricing was always a struggle until I became more confident in my work and gained experience. It seems we, as artists, never really make a decent hourly wage, but are mostly just happy someone loves our work enough to buy it and cherish it in the first place. 🙄 I think it is definitely a huge compliment that whoever that was that resold your journals could get that much money for them!! I laughed hysterically when my mom told me she found one of my early ceramic cups for sale at the Thrift store. Then to add insult to injury, when my mom told the lady at the register that her daughter had made it, she gave it to her at no charge. 😂😂😂
@jenndotson6718
@jenndotson6718 Год назад
Brutal! 😂 perhaps she was more thinking about the sentiment rather than the value… ❤😂
@DeerheartStudioArts
@DeerheartStudioArts 2 года назад
Btw your links to your Etsy shop and your website are not live in the description of this vid.
@shabbydabbydoodah
@shabbydabbydoodah 2 года назад
Thank you so much, I have fixed them now x
@123uschie
@123uschie 2 года назад
I have to say the creators creativity is also something to be considered when pricing - artists using their artwork within the journal whether it be painting, textile work etc makes for a one of a kind unique product .I have made numerous junk journals for myself and close friends but I treasure the one journal I purchased when I was new to this craft as a source of inspiration and a piece of book art- sadly the maker has passed away but her artistry lives in her journal .I love my journal as an endless medium for creativity ,the daily writing is only the beginning I would think that many purchasers of journals are looking for something that feeds the soul such as a piece of art would but at a manageable price. Good video ❤️
@sweetbaylaurelemporium4698
@sweetbaylaurelemporium4698 2 года назад
“price it to keep it, or price it to sell it”. Often crafters make nothing for their time. I have been selling handcrafted items at markets and such and these are two things i have learned. Great information in your video.
@JustMe-ds8fk
@JustMe-ds8fk 2 года назад
These journals are SO AMAZING!😊 I love that smaller pink one!
@AmberGarrett-py6ry
@AmberGarrett-py6ry 3 месяца назад
Your journal is STUNNING!
@CreatorsCall
@CreatorsCall 2 года назад
First, I think you are being awfully generous in your response toward a customer who bought from you then resold under her own shop name. The real issue here is not THAT she re-sold your journals, but HOW she sold your journals. Yes, some time has passed, but she clearly knows your reputation and worth now or else she would not have chosen to re-sell your work on ETSY's platform thereby profiting from it herself. Her intention was to deceive. She listed your handmade item on ETSY at a huge markup; although she didn't specifically claim to have made the journals herself, the implication is there. Customers who shop on ETSY take it for granted that handmade goods are made and sold by the seller themselves. They trust the seller is listing their own handiwork. The rules for selling on ETSY state that products listed fall into 1 of 3 categories: be vintage (which your journals were not), be supplies for making one's own projects, or be handmade by the artist/person listing them in their shop. The 2 journals in question do not meet any of the criteria and therefore she had no business selling them on ETSY. On ETSY you cannot sell something made by someone else and pass it off as "handmade" because it is supposed to be made by you. Unless it's a vintage item, and then you would be selling it as a "vintage" item and not a "handmade" item. She has committed fraud, plain and simple, and should be reported. If she had listed them on E-Bay, this would be a whole different scenario. However, she chose to list them on ETSY thereby violating ETSY's terms of use for sellers. As a seller myself, I would be infuriated if a prior customer was re-selling and profiting from my own work. If anyone should be receiving $400 (pounds) and profiting from your labor, it should be YOU. 😡 I also struggle with knowing how to price my items. It's a constant struggle. Bottom line, an item is worth whatever the customer is willing to pay for it. Now you know how much you are worth. You owe it to yourself as well as all of the other creatives out there to speak up for yourself and let ETSY know your items were fraudulently sold. You can prove the items are yours by going into your sold listings or viewing your completed orders to confirm the sale and to see the original listing price. I feel for you, Tina, and hope you can turn this around so that you are recognized for your own efforts and not some scam artist. Also, if she's doing this with your journals, it is highly likely that she has done or will do this again with other artists' work as well. ~Marci Harrison 🥰🤗
@shabbydabbydoodah
@shabbydabbydoodah 2 года назад
Wow, I hadn’t even thought of all the points that you made. You’re so right about the rules of selling on Etsy and it hadn’t registered in my mind like that, I was just so flabbergasted to have seen them on there in the first place! I won’t report her, as I wouldn’t feel comfortable doing that but you made a great point that she may well be doing that with other sellers items too. Thank you so much for your great points, you have really made me view it quite differently xx
@CreatorsCall
@CreatorsCall 2 года назад
@@shabbydabbydoodah It would floor me too if someone did that to me. The other points regarding terms of use didn't hit me until later, after I'd pondered your situation. 💖
@nintendy
@nintendy 2 месяца назад
I thought your Video was wonderful! I am somebody who knows nothing about making Junk Journals; never made one myself, or actually ‘use’ them for purpose - but I DO collect them! As a Collector though, I can tell you, I do appreciate and understand all the hard work, hours, cost and love that goes into making such things - and I take all of that into account when I am purchasing and the prices I expect to pay. One thing you didn’t mention, was 'Themes'. To a Collector, Themes can be important. I purchase certain Themes. That doesn’t mean of course that I haven’t purchased the odd one that’s just taken my fancy; but by and far, it will be a Theme that I like to own/collect. I would expect to pay more for an unusual Theme - not just because it cost more or took longer to make, so it’s just another aspect to consider. I’ve paid cheaply, but like you say, I’ve also paid hundreds. Touch wood, I’ve not been disappointed yet with the very expensive ones I’ve purchased so far. I view Junk Journals very much as pieces of Art, and the people who make them kind of Artists more than anything else - I LOVE the Medium as much as I might love the Medium of Painting. I think this Video was very informative and very helpful for those who don’t already consider the work that goes into such things. Thanks for sharing.
@deborahcade2586
@deborahcade2586 2 года назад
I am so fortunate to have 3 of your beautiful journals. They are amazing works of heart and I treasure them because you made them and I was able to watch you make it on your channel. I can't imagine anyone reselling one of your gorgeous journals. You are a true artist and your journals ARE worth a higher price!! Hugs to you Tina! xxx Deb
@shabbydabbydoodah
@shabbydabbydoodah 2 года назад
Oh thank you so much Deb, I can’t tell you how much your kind words mean, thank you xx
@sigitascoffeestains-2700
@sigitascoffeestains-2700 2 года назад
Thank you Tina for the video. xx I would say that here are two generally different type of prices. One- hobby makers and sellers, second- full time makers and sellers.🌸
@GigisART
@GigisART 2 года назад
There are two things you never mentioned in this video. Talent and art. We need to put a value on your artistic abilities. Every page you make is a work of art. Don't sell yourself short. You are a very talented artist. The folio you showed is amazing. Is it for sale? 😁❤️
@wandamclaughlin8405
@wandamclaughlin8405 9 месяцев назад
This was very helpful Tina. Thank you! I am new to junk journal making and you are right, a lot of time, love, and money to into these. My job was recently eliminated and I was trying to decide could I take a chance and do this for a living or try and find another job in my profession of Financial Aid in another university. I know things do not happen quickly here but I do enjoy making junk journals. Any who you have provided great information and content here. Thank you for sharing. One question, what type of overhead filming equipment do you use?
@vickislominski7618
@vickislominski7618 2 года назад
Thank you for sharing your thoughts (I agree wholeheartedly with your approach). I am often told that I should charge more for my items, but I am comfortable with my prices. I find joy in the process and am grateful that others find value in my creations.
@lindahurlock-sewoneofakind6155
@lindahurlock-sewoneofakind6155 2 года назад
Hi Tina, this is really great information. Thank you. Hugs 😊
@judythomas9775
@judythomas9775 2 года назад
I have a question about the junk journals. I noticed many of them don't have really any place to journal in them. Is this not as important to people?? Just curious. I love the look of them but don't see much use other than the beauty of just looking at them.
@shabbydabbydoodah
@shabbydabbydoodah 2 года назад
There are all different types of journals, so something for everyone. I do love to decorate to death, lol. I think they still include a good amount of journaling space though by the time you include all the pullouts etc x
@judythomas9775
@judythomas9775 2 года назад
@@shabbydabbydoodah Ok, Thank you! I appreciate your response and all your beautiful journals. Have a great day.
@donnacarraway9182
@donnacarraway9182 2 месяца назад
You are very honorable Tina! I don’t sell, but I do think that they can be real works of art and that is probably often the reason why people buy them. That probably also goes back to your point about how much you l personally like them because that also probably shows that they are a work of art! Not that many people think as much about the buyer as you do! I’ve also been long irritated with a seller who solicits other people’s makes for the purpose of selling them for them ( I know that for some this might be a helpful thing) but she sells them for so little that I feel that it disrespects the makers. Just makes me sad…but you are making me happy!❤
@chariot03
@chariot03 2 года назад
To be perfectly honest the amount of love and consideration that goes into a journal is priceless! I mean it’s like selling a piece of my soul, lol After I make a journal it has to live with me for awhile, some will never leave!😅
@MyMagpie
@MyMagpie 5 месяцев назад
I’m at the end of the video and still haven’t heard how you price your journals. That being said, if someone can purchase one of your pieces and resell it for such a profit, I’d have to think you’re underpriced.
@lenawarelius4195
@lenawarelius4195 2 года назад
Great topic 😍 I have a feeling that it is tabu to talk about how mutch the journals costs. It is the person that sets the price, and if some one dont agree, it’s like an atac on that person. So it can be scary to put your self out there. You are brave👏🙌 And you are a professional Tina. And a very admired one to😍 my Mother always says: "Think like a man" when it comes to pricing your items 😅😂 sadly there is stil a bit of truth in that. Love from a wet, 6 degrees Arctic Norway 👏🙌🌻🏵🌺🌼🌹💐🤗
@Paintspotsandpaper
@Paintspotsandpaper 2 года назад
econds ago I quite agree, I’ve often looked in your shop to see what prices to expect, but of course, they have been sold by then. I was hoping to get a rough price of your journals, altered books and folios but you didn’t mention your prices. You shouldn’t be embarrassed in any way for the price you charge, as I think your journals etc are definitely worth it, but please give some idea of what you charge, Thankyou Tina for all of your wonderful and inspiring videos and thankyou for sharing x Read more
@prof.mommyarty
@prof.mommyarty 2 года назад
Oh great topic, I'd love to sell at some point! The work and supplies you put into these beautiful creations warrants higher prices. Whhhaaattt? Can't believe she made so much profit without doing anything, I wouldn't have the nerve! They're very obviously your work though😍. I think people understand the real vintage pricing. 🙊 I get you charging more for something you want to keep! Ugh, postage is awful now 🙈, yes 'free postage ' goes on the price! We just paid £25 to send English biscuits, chocolate and tea to a friend in America🙈 but he paid $89 to send a similar parcel here 😱😱😱. Good point, they're all original one offs. No repeating would be boring. Yes you have to make a living and you put your heart and sole into every one. £500????????🙈🙊🙉. Yeah creative people understand what goes into them. Yes my daughter started her shop on Instagram before taking it over to Etsy. (She makes gorgeous children's clothes). That's very interesting and helpful, would I have the confidence???🙈. Tfs and have a great day 💖💖💖
@cherylbaker473
@cherylbaker473 Год назад
Very helpful! Thank you so much for your time. I am new at this and you have shared much helpful info!
@maineiacts
@maineiacts 2 года назад
Hi Tina and Thanks So Much for taking the time to put this together!! Very Helpful!! Hope you and yours are doingvwell! Much Success To You!! You DESERVE IT!!! Such Beautiful ART Journals YOU Make!!!! Collictible , Priceless really!! Blissful Crafting Blessings!! 🙋🏻‍♀️🤗🌹💖😇 Mindi🇺🇸
@lindasutherland8090
@lindasutherland8090 Год назад
Your junk journals are absolutely beautiful!
@sassyh154
@sassyh154 2 года назад
Cheers for the insight... I am seamstress and used to sell at markets... I never got anywhere near my handcrafted handbags were worth, but... I did get enough to want to keep going... Don't put expectations on yourself... and you will be pleasantly surprised... Great info, Thank you for sharing...
@shabbydabbydoodah
@shabbydabbydoodah 2 года назад
You’re so right, handmade items are never going to make you rich, lol. Like you say though, just enough to keep you going xx
@emeryjunkjournals6648
@emeryjunkjournals6648 Год назад
I'm the same ... find it difficult to sell for the price they're worth taking into account the time taken., so I've only ever sold one. Bit dishonest of that seller not to mention the base journal was not made be her ... I would hate that to happen with mine.
@I_am_Michelle
@I_am_Michelle 2 года назад
Great video! Very interesting and informative
@shabbydabbydoodah
@shabbydabbydoodah 2 года назад
Thank you so much Michelle, I am definitely emailing you today! With goodies as well. Much love to you x
@jbresslin
@jbresslin 2 года назад
I love the junky journal. With clock on front! So sweet. I love it!
@maryvanhyfte6802
@maryvanhyfte6802 2 года назад
I think you made great points on pricing . And getting paid for our “time” is very difficult . Cuz everything would be so expensive. Love ur channel . Happy creating
@elizabustos7343
@elizabustos7343 2 года назад
I personally find that rude to buy it from you and sell it for that outrageous amount I have never bought one as much as I would love too but its because I can't afford it. I would be ashed to do what they did I would feel like I was stealing. If I could afford it I would cherish it I make my own I've never tried to sell them tho. Thank you for the video.
@elizabustos7343
@elizabustos7343 2 года назад
Ashamed I meant.
@tuthillg
@tuthillg 2 года назад
Good infor, Tina! Troubles me that someone resold your journals and did not divulge that they were yours and not hers. Shady. TFS the useful info and inspiration!
@shabbydabbydoodah
@shabbydabbydoodah 2 года назад
I know what you mean Gail, but what can you do? I hope you’re doing well xx
@lauragaudry3402
@lauragaudry3402 2 года назад
I have been selling my journals through a local store for a couple of years. I will say pricing can be the hardest part of the entire process. I agree with everything you’ve said Tina. Thanks for sharing. Hugs and blessings, 🤗❤️🇨🇦
@mik20241
@mik20241 2 года назад
My husband is a contractor and always said: People pay for your skill, creativity, time and of course materials. If you undercut yourself, you undercut the entire “industry”. Don’t gouge people, but definitely ask for a reasonable price. Even though you probably just enjoy making a journal, you should learn to value your work.
@SouthpawPatty
@SouthpawPatty Год назад
Exactly! Just because some people can't afford to pay a certain price doesn't mean other people can't. Skill and time are both valuable. Also charging low prices are making things difficult for sellers who actually do need to be paid for their time, work, their materials and their skill. The low fixed income that I get doesn't pay my bills. I need to charge for my work that I do from home. I don't get a discount from the grocery store, the plumber or for anything else that I have to pay for.
@DeniseS-6867
@DeniseS-6867 2 года назад
Hello Tina, I have always had trouble pricing my handmade goods, thank you for sharing this.
@mitzieat307junkjournals4
@mitzieat307junkjournals4 2 года назад
This is wonderful info!! Thank you for all your hard work and thank you for sharing. 💕🥰💕
@MoanAhLisa
@MoanAhLisa 2 года назад
Even though I shouldn't be, I'm a little shocked at the 'resale' story. Some people are like vampires. That's all I'm sayin.
@shabbydabbydoodah
@shabbydabbydoodah 2 года назад
Yes, I agree, I was shocked at first, but then after the initial shock sunk in it didn't surprise me so much......which is probably what is saddest of all xx
@dianeschneider7442
@dianeschneider7442 2 года назад
I did not request this video but I sure did enjoy it. You gave us great information. Thanks so much for sharing your insight and experience. Your journals are beautiful!
@mrsdscraftdesk
@mrsdscraftdesk 2 года назад
Thanks for this. Your opinion is extremely good to know, and your advice was very welcome.
@willareeneacealbertini975
@willareeneacealbertini975 2 года назад
Thank you Tina, l agree with your thinking. I also think your journals are worth so much more because you, our teacher makes it special!
@mariapatriciachavez214
@mariapatriciachavez214 Год назад
very nice ideas thank you very much 🖤🤍❤️😍
@beverlydellpersonal223
@beverlydellpersonal223 2 года назад
What is your average time spent on one of your bigger journals
@shabbydabbydoodah
@shabbydabbydoodah 2 года назад
It is hard to answer I’m afraid, as I have a lot of ready made items now, that being said, those items had to be made in the first place, lol. I would say on average anywhere between 10 and 20 hours depending on the journal, I hope this helps x
@olwenturns
@olwenturns Год назад
Amazing video. I'm UK and was looking on ebay, people are selling their handmade JJs for as little as £5 ! I'd hate it some someone bought a journal off me then sold it for such a huge mark up.
@shabbydabbydoodah
@shabbydabbydoodah Год назад
Thank you so much xxx
@janicestevens8469
@janicestevens8469 Год назад
I just watched this great video on pricing journals. This was so helpful to know what to consider when selling your journals. I don’t think anyone makes much selling journals unless they have a RU-vid channel to promote them. There are so many pretty journals available out there, I can understand why someone would want to buy one that they have seen a flip through of instead of just a few pictures on Etsy.
@shabbydabbydoodah
@shabbydabbydoodah Год назад
Thank you so much Janice, I am really pleased that you found this helpful. It’s always tricky when pricing things isn’t it? Yes doing a flip through on RU-vid really helps to show your journal at its best and help people know what they’re buying. Good luck with yours xx
@joyjournal6157
@joyjournal6157 2 года назад
Thank you so much for this video!!! I've asked so many creators about pricing but they just ignore me. Thank you for this down to earth information.👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@shabbydabbydoodah
@shabbydabbydoodah 2 года назад
Thank you so much Joy, I am thrilled that you enjoyed the video and got some useful information x
@beejayoung1546
@beejayoung1546 2 года назад
Thanks Tina, very informative. Your journals are beautiful, can definitely tell a lot of time and love has gone into their creation.
@julielakey594
@julielakey594 2 года назад
Omg I love everything you make it is always so beautiful I would love to buy one of your journals it would make my day you are truly talented and I know you put your heart and soul into everything you make
@karenw8481
@karenw8481 2 года назад
In the US we have a cheaper rates for mailing books, called media mail. It's slower to arrive, but much cheaper.
@shabbydabbydoodah
@shabbydabbydoodah 2 года назад
What a fantastic idea, maybe eventually we will get something like that, I hope so because it’s becoming so expensive x
@peggydid
@peggydid 2 года назад
@@shabbydabbydoodah Check with PO, but media mail is for printed-bound books.
@CreatorsCall
@CreatorsCall 2 года назад
It only applies to certain items though and not to handmade journals. I got questioned once when mailing a printed vintage menu and was informed that it didn't qualify as Media Mail. So I wound up having to pay for postage a second time as I had already attached my printed ETSY label to it. Only printed books, music and media items such as tapes, video, etc. qualify for the classification.
@bambi4410
@bambi4410 Год назад
💌Extremely helpful Tina !! Thank you sooo much for sharing, no joke! Sending you an your kiddos so much love💜😘💜
@lucy7b
@lucy7b 2 года назад
You are also running a business, accounting costs, income tax etc. Etc. Presumably you have to account for the cost of materials and write them off against tax. The Etsy seller is based in Germany, perhaps the market is more buoyant there.
@shabbydabbydoodah
@shabbydabbydoodah 2 года назад
Yes Lucy, income tax, etsy fees etc are all further costs that have to be taken off, but as you say materials that I purchase I also put against my taxes too. Maybe the market is more buoyant in Germany like you say xx
@lucy7b
@lucy7b 2 года назад
@@shabbydabbydoodah take care ❤️
@DeerheartStudioArts
@DeerheartStudioArts 2 года назад
I think it’s very valid to up the price of work we have a lot of love for.
@TheTruckingScribe
@TheTruckingScribe 7 месяцев назад
Thank you for sharing. Great information.
@racheljolley26352
@racheljolley26352 Год назад
Thank you very much Tina for this helpful insight to selling. Your journals are truly phenomenally stunning and magnificent!! 🏆❤
@alittlebitfrench2022
@alittlebitfrench2022 Год назад
Are you kidding me, she purchased your journals and resold them? My jaw dropped - unbelievable! Your journals are so gorgeous! Thank you for this eye opening video, I learned a lot
@tonyashatley5040
@tonyashatley5040 2 года назад
Tina, you are so sweet! I love how you think about others! I hope you are still making money though and you aren’t under charging. I guess really it’s what the buyer is willing to pay! I’m sure your big journals could go for $200 easy because 1-it’s hand made by you and 2-they are super gorgeous! I’ve seen some plain journals go for 200-300 and I’m shocked! But people buy them! Great video! I love making my own and it’s my hobby but I think you made a lot of good points! Enjoy your day! 💜
@roxycreations679
@roxycreations679 2 года назад
Wonderful video Tina!!! Thank you so much for sharing!
@kathleenseligmytatterednto8560
Tina thank you for your thoughts and I think we all probably under price our work, but I agree about not feeling like ripping someone off. I also agree that you can't under price yourself either. Loved this video and it makes those of us making journals not feel bad about what we do.
@DistractedDaisy
@DistractedDaisy 2 года назад
Great info, and i loved seeing your journals. so much yummy stuff in them and you can tell you really love to work in them.
@shabbydabbydoodah
@shabbydabbydoodah 2 года назад
Thank you so much Daisy x
@Sudlesuebaker
@Sudlesuebaker 2 года назад
I have bought one of your journals...... I bought it to keep, I would never think of selling it. If I have not made it, I don't sell it on my etsy shop! x
@DarlaW
@DarlaW 2 года назад
Tina, your pricing is awesome and I respect you so much for this! I've seen some of the other big name crafters selling their journals for $250 to even beyond $400. While anyone is free to charge whatever they want to charge, I'm also free to unsubscribe from their channels and not watch them anymore because in my opinion they are taking advantage of people who watch them and admire them. I do understand that they put a lot of time and work into their channels and their product but the prices they are asking is just not morally right.
@shabbydabbydoodah
@shabbydabbydoodah 2 года назад
Thank you so much Darla. It really is a tricky thing, but I just wouldn’t feel comfortable charging such an outrageous price. I understand that they take a huge amount of time to make, but you don’t want to people to feel ripped off do you? X
@mariespaperlab7186
@mariespaperlab7186 2 года назад
I know of a maker here is USA that uses only original items in hers and large size usually 8x10” her prices are around $500 and up. They sell like hot cakes in a hungry town. 😊
@taylormadejournals9662
@taylormadejournals9662 2 года назад
totally agree with all your tips, always cover the cost of suppiles first when I make a journal and the cost has to reflect the cost of replacing those supplies. then etsy fees, and the tax man. Forget my time you never make that money back. Awesome video as always XXX
@yolandaramos7399Ladybug
@yolandaramos7399Ladybug 2 года назад
Love that blue journal Tina. Is it sold?
@missboo4325
@missboo4325 2 года назад
I’m in love with the blue unbound journal💙💙💙I would never resell a journal I was lucky enough to acquire. You are a true artist!
@belyndarecycleart9751
@belyndarecycleart9751 2 года назад
OMG Tina they are Art Journals Not really Junk so yes your price should be razed ,you are a Artist dont underestimate your work of Art .
@GECKO-MASTER
@GECKO-MASTER Год назад
You are underselling yourself
@heatherparry3159
@heatherparry3159 Год назад
This was so interesting and helpful. Thanks so much for sharing your thoughts.
@SunDragonPaperNLace
@SunDragonPaperNLace 2 года назад
Tina, such a fantastic and informative video! Thank you so much for sharing this!
@shabbydabbydoodah
@shabbydabbydoodah 2 года назад
Thank you so much, I am thrilled that you found it helpful x
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