Primitive Skills; Making Steel From Iron Ore 

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@@honeyblackman980 He misses out on the ad revenue

@@honeyblackman980 And you are proud... Can't wait for the WW3 to purge the snowflakes !

Tại sao? Why?

Honey Blackman is not a " BLACK MAN" We love your videos... I don't upload videos... Iron Age, very good ! What next ? an hammer ? hooks ? ...Axe ?...

Being in NA, I can't IMAGINE how fucking valuable it would be. Having to shave out wood for water pipes and aqueducts must have been a full time job pre-Rome. Stone cutters must have been paid WELL.

@@thatsweetlilthing2 not necessarily. Most of the people doing the hardest labor in larger scale societies were either enslaved or doing the equivalent pay of a McDonald's employee. Why? Because there wasn't a lot of technology to differentiate to in that time. You had such little different types of labor that most people knew how to do a little bit of everything. Once metalworking, education, large scale warfare, advanced engineering, etc started coming around, then the jobs were a bit more than you're either chief, fighting man, or common laborer. I mean granted the hierarchy was still divided into the 4 types: Nobility, Clergy, Soldier, Laborer, but now you can specialize in certain fields. Now you can be a laborer, but also specialized as a carpenter, for example.

@@point-five-oh6249 I really don't think you're giving the Romans technology enough credit. I wouldnt have put it past slave labor being used to construct the aqueducts but it goes way beyond basic engineering

@@thatsweetlilthing2 Oh at the time the technology for the Roman Aqueducts were revolutionary. I am just saying that with the tech the guy in the video has, that you can't really expect people of the same era to be able to do that kind of thing because in the primitive period most people lived in small villages with one or two large cities here and there. I'm just saying that Rome made sure to distinguish that you were still a peasant, even if you were smarter than the average tavern drunk.

...and I used to think they were only good for bongs.

Quantum my ass cheeks. What a pseudo overly used word. It's like dividing by zero a d bending a shadow. B S

@@franksigwart9777 Can you elaborate?

@@guzzodavenport3263 yes, Aether physics. End of discussion. And I mean it.

@@franksigwart9777 What do you mean by "Quantum my ass cheeks"?

@@franksigwart9777 quantum computers are an actual thing. It works with particles in superposition, using qubits. Plenty of documentation out there. Maybe try searching around.

Lmao. Why does this not have more upvoted.

@@77Fmydog because we're not on reddit

@@77Fmydog found the basement dweller

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Bill indeed we did

RPGs typically involve magic and industrial scale production. RPGs also have to tweak timescales and costs to keep players grinding, but not bored.

Once you have iron, getting more iron is easy since you can make proper metal tools and make mines instead of looking for surface ore.

Agreed... can you imagine how many times you'd have to hit the "×" button just for the baffles? You may even have to alternate with another button for the reciprocal action. "It ain't much, but it's honest work." Lmao

Yeah because of the work put into them. Iron is much harder to work than gold or silver.

Ingot is poop on rpg online

I wonder how we lived before shoes were invented 🤔

@@elismith6369 in trees, eating bananas and scratching our butt. Even if we were on the ground, we were definitely not working a forge!

suprised he hasnt made some sandals, slipons and Moccasins

@@VincentGonzalezVeg He needed the forge so he could make them steel toes. Gotta watch out for OSHA, don't ya know!

@@VincentGonzalezVeg where he is at, people still walk bare foot, so why should he be different lol.. quick wash and off he goes to bed 😁

I’m seriously so amazed there aren’t more comments about that beautiful sound

Whats about this damn rooster?

TAXI... TAXI..!!!

Yes...Just like thousands of years ago.

Yeah those hits with his axe sounded like gunshots when they echoed.

Research is the harder job imo. Knowledge is the ultimate power. But yes, he was epic

thats why teamwork is important to produce this thing faster to industry

Exactly what I think of whenever I see a picture of a suit of armor or a sword. The amount of effort required in its construction is just mind blowing. Equipping an entire army would require so much smelting and smiting. It's incredible.

That’s because there were many blacksmiths in a civilization. Slaves and experienced blacksmiths were often ordered to forge swords, axes, hammers, and eventually guns.

Remember to thank an engineer! ;)

True

There's so few original people in the youtube comments. It's always the same lame ass stolen jokes from either reddit or other popular comments. YT comments are the best example of empty internet theory lmfao

@Venu Ganga theoretically yeah, but you'd either need knowledge on gunsmithing or at least a way to learn

@Venu Ganga yeah, there are real life examples of prisoners creating simple guns/weapons from everyday commodities, its pretty insane

Best comment yet hands down

Gotta love living in a valley.

@patrick quinn LOL!

patrick quinn won’t anyone think of the Neanderthals?!

Me too

Finally someone notice about it

And the rest after that is just 😌👌

The problem is, that he didn't achieve the goal as stated in title of the video. He produced iron, not steel.

I read that with an English accent. Lol

*laughs in runescape*

That makes refined iron. There’s no such thing as “steel”. Unless you use mods.

Imagine if he Updates to 1.12 and discovers the Blast Furnace

... are you referring to IC2

@@inferior2884 minecraft my boy

Reminds me of the video titled "3 Ancient Hand Tools Japanese Carpenters Still Use" from 4:20. That's even more uncomfortable to watch.

I chopped the side of my foot with a hatchet while wearing slip on flip flops lol

Well MAKING Carbon is Not very easy

@@karlalbert2798 yeah for you it's definitely not, snowflake !

@@PotionsMaster666 i dont think you understood what i meant. Because if you want to make an element you would need an element with less protons than your desired product. You would then have to shoot additional protons into it so that for example boron (5 protons) turns into carbon (6 protons)

Whats the story about?

What’s the book called?

@@uahatoxicboi9801 It's not called anything really yet. It's still in its infancy. "Empire Road" and "The Books" are the names of the folders on my computer. ;)

@@emperorbunnybun7513 It's a kind of medieval/low-fantasy setting. It's part of a series of larger stories kicking around in my head for years. The ones with the blacksmithing takes place in a kind of criminal/smugglers locale in a disintegrating empire.

I know how you feel. I've been doing the same for a game I want to make.

See, you don't need all that fancy stuff like PPE, barely a pant to cover your steel balls, that's all ...

I also spent a few years in the steel industry, and this is indeed amazing. Not the chemistry, that's pretty simple. The fact that you can get the temperatures necessary with that primitive of equipment is an achievement. Would not take much more for the poster to make crucible steel instead of bloom steel. Crucible steel doesn't take much more tech, and produces a far easier to work steel product.

@Max Martins Crucible steel is all about keeping oxygen out. So you put in your iron oxide (iron ore) some scrap iron, carbon, a bit of glass or good sand into a crucible. Which was then sealed and "baked" or fired at a high enough temperature to melt the components down. Once fired, you'd break open the crucible, and if everything went right, you'd have a hockey puck of steel. This allows the carbon to remove the impurities in the iron (mainly oxygen), and give you steel. You also tend to want more carbon than you need, as that makes it carbon steel, which is good for weapons. There are some very good youtube videos made by historians that discuss crucible steel in great depth, and some even go into the ratios of what you need to add to make it work. Steel making is all about ratios of what you add to make the desired grade or alloy of steel. In modern steel making, there is usually a secondary furnace, where the steel is kept molten, so that the chemistry of the steel can be tweaked to get exactly what you want. In the mills i have worked in or visited, this is called the LMF, or ladle metallurgical furnace.

@Peely stfu

Mr. Oregano Stfu

@@politefahrenheit8546 stfu

@@numedeutilizator0043 Silence will fall.

Hi

but much worse

The hell. Dr. Stone is trash. Please don't show this name again..

@@DBT1007 Ding, dong your opinion is wrong.

@@DBT1007 I guess it's not for everyone. For example: mental disabled people wouldn't find it so entertaining.

Especially when he starts pumping air into his makeshift furnace :D And since I started watching that show, I've been wondering why is making shoes not a priority in these channels XD

How do you process it further?

@@cowmoo5596 flattening and folding the metal several times will remove most of the inclusions.

he wasted soo much effort for no reason though. It's laughable. It ended up with a lump of iron, not even steel. :D

@@hawkintelligence Not a complete waste of time. He does have over 1M subscribers for making videos about making mud pies.

@@joecaner yeah, because he used SEO tools and if you actually look at the sub list, he bought them. lmao. But still, the foundation of the comment. Native people never wasted steps. It was about survival. Not breaking and using useless objects for servicing or creating. It's useful for a modern age "skill set" for primitive objectives. But back in the day, no one used this and no one was this wasteful while doing so.

@Pavel. I got what i expect to see. A piece of slag🤣

Doesn't it depend on the type of hardwood that is used to make charcoal? Are there some hardwoods that have a high BTU that could make charcoal to melt iron ore or at least from a meteorite? Iron smithing was known in Egypt to a least 1325 BC and likely well before then as an iron dagger was found in King Tut's tomb.

Yep, but you can make steel from that, with hammer and many hours work. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-X3KJik8a3VU.html similar smelting (charcoal and some sand donations for better steel quality) and in final, you have steel sword. but you need many more basic material for that.

@Robertson Thirdly thnx I will

How Japanese made steel. Go check.. it's charcoal

thanks

I agree, you don't see this done ever, no wonder - so much work. So is the first job to now make a hammer with it?

@@PrimitiveSkillsnet What's the first step now you have the glorious iron ? make a hammer ?

@@civismesecret2795 he makes a pickaxe so he can mine diamonds

@@PrimitiveSkillsnet This is not steel, it's sponge iron with slag. You need much, much higher temperatures to make steel which, can't be reached using charcoal.

Whats the time stamp

@@userrrr32 2:22

And he doesn't even use the rock like okay I would have put them back for him at least

@@AH-pu8iu I would have built a cathedral of worship for the frog and committed myself to praising it and its image, and then I would have pledged my life as sacrifice to its magnificence. Get out-virtue'd.

At least he didn't kill it ,and eat it . Frog legs are good .

For this Video, It doesn't matter where the Iron Ore was found it's about the process from ore to Iron

@@johnpartridge7623 i disagree personally. The process from ore to iron includes in my opinion the extraction of iron ore. Also it is abit indicative of the whole video if he is willing to mislead in such regards. It kind of throws into question quite a few different techniques used (and were they done correctly without any 'help' so to speak). But that's just my 2cents.

Where I live in the America there are mountains with magnetite rocks laying around everywhere. Accessibility really depends on the luck of the geology draw.

unfortunate that.

Iron ore is found in certain rock beds, not all of it needs mining, it's mined as you say to avoid open cast mining and environmental issues that accompanies open cast mining. That rock is not hard to find it's just a matter of extracting it which is what this Gentleman just did

It’s a toad not frog

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Lance and Emerald used to, one of the OGs playing 1.5.2

@Lance and Emerald I think most people here play minecraft and that's why they're here, because they want to take Minecraft in VR to the next level by dropping the "virtual" aspect completely

Looks like tamahagane

It's a bloom, once he hammers the living hell out of it it'll become wrought iron. Which is ~0,1% carbon away from steel. It's really soft right now because of all the slag an unrefined bloom has inside of it.

@AshMontgomery I didn't know that. How would he go about getting rid of the silica, if he wished?

I’m not big brain enough to say anything, so I’ll just watch.

@@paracovo pig iron blooms are high in carbon, it needs to be refined by remelting in a puddling furnace and separated manually before you have wrought.

@@zackshrigley Thanks. Any idea how this could be accomplished using primitive tech?

@Nat Wru no, that's why I said "that axe"

@Nat Wru not too bright aye?

work being done for you :)

And only available after the industrial revolution.

Monsieur Longbow no it wasn’t

Ilaria Alexyos 200 iq

Looks like limonite to me. FeO(OH) with some water (H2O) in the structure. That explains why he processes it like limonite as well, the first heating removes the water from the structure.

@@bujtorm FeO has a dark grey color, Fe2O3 has a red-brown color. After the first thermic treatment, there are red-brown material and darkgrey, but, in a lot of cases when there is FeO and Fe2O3 there is also MnO2. And MnO2 has a dark grey color, very similar to FeO. Ps. in my first comment i written the timestamp 9:30.

@@mahjarataei You have nothing to give but sarcasm?

Ilaria Alexyos what do you mean lol? I actually found it a smart comment and I said it in a funny way, why do you have to take it so seriously?

I mean if you are stranded in the wild all you have to do is make a fire and keep it going. People will see the flames and call 911 and they will find you. Unless you are on an island good luck

One of their best episodes.

Both channels are great

are they affiliated ? or do we have a thief!!!???

Jesse Bower he’s taken the primitive technology format but he’s high up the tech tree so he’s not a copycat

John Plant ensured that his channel is distinct.

yeah Primitive Technology does not mind if other people use his name to promote said tech. That guy is cool af and is the original Primitive Technology. This guy here we are watching is also really good

All the exercises this mans getting, be just be jacked!

Well since he is working the muscles he actually needs to do all this and not just building show muscles he should be stronger than a ripped dude. Plus he working really efficiently.

I dont know anything about it, but I thought it being mixed right in with the coal would give it the carbon mixture that forms steel? What else is done to make traditional steel?

@angrydingus It likely fairly low carbon, wrought iron (not pig iron). It's a process called bloomery steel, and can produce widely varying products, and widely varying carbon content. The main issue is all the slag that is mixed within the bloom takes extensive processing to make something useable. And usually that just means spreading the slag/inclusions around as uniformly as possible. It can yield quality steel final product though, for certain. Depending on the technique and time put into it. Certainly useable steel, it was used through history before more advanced procedures were developed- blast furnaces etc.

@@zakpodo Awesome thanks for the info. Gives me something more to look into.

hes right, steel has a carbon content below 2,06%, everything above is called cast iron. this is called pig iron and needs further refining like removing the carbon content with oxygen (or back in the days with regular atmospheric air, which contains a lot of nitrogen so it is not so great), and desulfurization (sulfur creates lots of impurities after the casting process). also a good slag is needed to reduce Si, Mn. but technically, if he brings the carbon down below 2,06%.. it is considered steel, not a good quality but basic steel. :)

@@KGKolibri Bloomery steel was mostly lower carbon iron, like I said, not pig iron. And so is the product in the video. It is not impossible to create high carbon iron in a bloomery procedure, but it's atypical. That said, it produces iron with a range of content, not usually mixed evenly. See below for sources. www.researchgate.net/publication/282956457_Mechanical_Properties_of_Medieval_Bloomery_Iron_Materials_-_Comparative_Tensile_and_Charpy-tests_on_Bloomery_Iron_Samples_and_S235JRG2 exarc.net/issue-2013-2/ea/production-high-carbon-steel-directly-bloomery-process-theoretical-bases-and-metallographic-analyses Or search bloomery in wiki.

*ingenuity*

The bellows is key

The bellows move around a lot of air.

Primitive Technology was able to get some little metal slugs from an ash iron muck concoction he made but he hasn't not made a follow up video on it yet. Most channels though definitely don't do things this in debth with stuff they actually get from nature, most seem to have a little cheating involved.

It does not melt. It is a chemical reaction between the iron oxide and the carbon in the forge, it reduces the iron oxide to pure iron, which will never melt at the temperatures he reached. Once he got the bloom out it wasn't even really at forge welding temps.

@@Sgtassburgler interesting. I thought that it didn't really look like it got hot enough. He's gonna need a much bigger furnace running on a water wheel powered blower to melt steel

Wait, you found a way to cook pizza without doing that?

I got hired and fired from a Pizza Hut today.

Please buff the clay furnace durability

Good you say? What about toilet paper?

@@wtfbbqpwnzercopter You are not living the good life unless you wipe with steel reinforced toilet paper.

@@wtfbbqpwnzercopter you aint never had to wipe your ass with leaves have ya?

wtfbbqpwnzercopter he’s got a river nearby right? Natures bede

@@The_Ninedalorian Leaves and my bare hand. I know how to ask for a frankish style toilet in a few languages. Worst toilet I ever saw was at a bus stop in Turkey. It was like that scene in Trainspotting. This is my point though, civilization to me is a nice quiet squat. Without having to consider what's crawling on my leg or how many days I have to wash my left hand before I can eat with it again.

That trickle of water would have the power of a hamster wheel.

Do you mean one with an Pedal

098gjt6 yes . He has water source , it’s more fun to see if he make a lot stuff using water power

@@garyvigue agree but this is still less a pain than grinding it by hand

But before that, he need to make some iron bushing, or else the water powered machines won't last very long, and the screeching sound of wood rubbing together will make his ears bleed.

This guy is asian, its all mostly faked off camera. Only primitive technology is real channel because he is white.

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Are you saying this steel is bad?

@@LeeHill66 It's the quote associated with metallurgy in Civilization 5.

A bad knife is better than no knife.

@@william731 "To put faith in a broken sword is worse than no sword at all."

@@ONIscrooge "To use quotes appearing as if I am smart, makes me look like a clown" - Albert Einstein

Primitive Skills used to be an adventurer like you but then he took an arrow in the knee

if got iron ore lay around. do same thing rock got no ore did all this for nothing.

@@The_NinedalorianToo funny. I just started up Skyrim VR on Occulus.

your dumb

i know right|?

This is so much faster on WOW

@@oscaralarcon6187 Imagine his joy if he learns how to make an Iron Farm

@@boid9761 it's still cool to watch him do this. I know that I would now have the patience though. I woulf have gave up after cutting that wood with that little axe!

Can you link to this tromple technology? I could not find.

@@ded_Fedor en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trompe should get you there.

@@mfree80286 thank you very much!

How does the trompe work or how do you make it ?

It's all fun and games until the oriental guy grabs a pointy stick.

was thinking the same thing lol

Bro me to

Val Page but how.. it's because of editing?

@@sudiptochakma3351 according to Val Page we should trust random people that are so good at hating people instead of making progress in their life

ImranNajmi hahahaha..Good one

omg thats so original!!!!!

That explains the moss growing on it.

He needs to get that shit to forge welding temps or it is all just going to split apart.

@@Sgtassburgler Yes, you could see when he was grinding it, bits of slag and junk metal were just crumbling off. It needs a lot of work and he needs to build a nice hot forge.... but, he did a good thorough job to get where he did. Best primitive youtube iron furnace I've seen.

@Gay Vegan In the video iron was made, not steel. I think "soda" refers to a sodium-containing compound.

*arc

With a vase of scrap material from previous projects, in a cave

I'm not sure how high a temperature the bloomery in the video achieved or how long the ore was heated, but I think it technically produced a mixture of slag and iron called a bloom. Working the bloom with the hammer drives more of the slag out of the mass, making it wrought iron. To your question, it might be a small semantic difference; some of the iron must be absorbing carbon, so some "high quality" steel probably exists in the bloom but not a substantial amount in the final billet.

Ok if i am in your group ima build an grill, who is hunting the food?

Ur rite

He need build a smartphone. And a cola

No dude. Dr Stone watched him.

He's been at this longer than Dr Stone and on the contrary might even have been an inspiration to the series.

@@is-ig4zh no, dr stone should watch him. Senku*s way of making iron is fictional and if you would try his way of making iron or steel, you will fail.

@@nextlifeonearth anime is based on something called manga but ok

Madoch Jamroch i dont think tongs are needed. Just a good forging hammer and then use it to forge thinks like larger axe heads and maybe even a pick axe would be cool

Drowseh personally i think he is going to be forging a large knife or small machete. It would be far more useful for his environment and besides, he already has an axe.

@@gravygamingza7323 u can never have enough axes if they are handmade xd

GravyGaming ZA A hammer...

Homeboy’s making steel. Puts him in the late Iron Age.

Because that where we came from and it's probably still in our DNA.

Dr Stone

You are not that far off the truth. In these regions of the world, once you are worth raiding, you will be raided. That or the geared guy(s) let you keep on working as long as you give them a cut of your monthly produce. Also known as taxation.

Yes, noticed it as well. Absolutely love such sounds.

My dude broke the goddamn sound barrier with that hit

Yea, I saw the ax with the bare feet too. Yikes...

This guy made sandals and never used them I doubt it

How so? I been watching it when I ran into this.

Mister Hat 5000 We have tons of this type of rock all over our property in the upper midwest. I am fascinated at all the variations the rock comes in when I cut them often there is deep red sand inside and they also resemble shapes of tools and I have a few that look like fossilized animals. Message me I would love to learn more about this! SO cool!

Uruguay nomá

@@ronaldmachado1195 Vamo' arriba! ;D