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I made a water filter from cane that siphons clean water from a dirty water while simultaneously using the xylem present in the the cane as a filter. MIT engineers had already proved that pine branches can be used as water filters as the thin membranes connecting the straw like xylem filter out 99% of bacteria such as E.coli which make water unsafe to drink ( meche.mit.edu/news-media/mit-... ). Taking this concept, I used a type of cane in the forest and bent them into hook shapes, tying them in place with vine. Then I put dirty water into a raised pot and siphoned clean water from it into a lower collection pot. Initially some sap comes (which is also harmless to drink) out but then water flows through the stem. It does take a while for it to work but the process can be sped up by adding multiple canes working in parallel. The water that came through is clean and I was able to drink it without ill effect. After a few days the canes clog up and need replacing though one cane lasted longer than the others for some reason. Also in this video, I test the effectiveness of filtering water through a clay pot submerged in a creek, the ceramic walls acting as a filter for the creek water. Both methods seem to work but the clay pot method is more useable and needs less maintenance. But, the cane siphon would be better if no clay pots were available, simply filtering water from a puddle into a lower collection container such as a folded leaf.
00:00- Making filter/siphon
02:12- Using filter/siphon
03:53- Alternative pot filter
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@primitivetechnology9550
@primitivetechnology9550 Год назад
I got the idea for this from MIT researchers who filtered water through a pine branch. Apparently it removes 99% of the bacteria in the process. What I added was the siphon principle, so that it's able to carry the water up and over an obstruction. Pottery isn't required for this to work, water could be siphoned and filtered from a higher up mud puddle into a lower container made of leaves for example. MIT article: meche.mit.edu/news-media/mit-engineers-make-filters-tree-branches-purify-drinking-water
@conanthecribber
@conanthecribber Год назад
It seemed to me that the cane tips were sitting more or less flush on the bottom of the clay pot. I had the feeling that this would prevent the flow of water through the cane. And as always, love the content. Best thing RU-vid has ever suggested to me.
@bryphi77
@bryphi77 Год назад
Your cheeks are going to feel all weird.
@marcinwitkowski217
@marcinwitkowski217 Год назад
Page not found-link is broken?
@DanielSMatthews
@DanielSMatthews Год назад
Thanks for sharing that knowledge, it could be a lifesaver for somebody one day. I wonder if there is some sort of fine organic matter, small seeds or pollen perhaps, that you could mix into the clay for a pot to make the filtration faster without compromising the water quality. I have heard of this done with coffee grounds but there must also primitive alternatives. The idea is that the organic matter turns to carbon and burns out, any remaining in the core of the pot wall would just help to purify the water as activated charcoal does.
@Edetwo
@Edetwo Год назад
perhaps an angled cut at the end of the siphon would speed it up? like a 45 degree angle cut at the output so the water doesnt have to push up the end to exit the "tube". And im not sure, since i didnt see how low the tube was in the top pot, but moving the intake higher off the bottom of the source of water, increases flow, and reduces clogging from mud and such since it sinks to the bottom
@Yabbadabbadoe
@Yabbadabbadoe Год назад
I’m glad I live in the timeline where the best primitive survival channel still posts regularly
@DameAndThatGame
@DameAndThatGame Год назад
Their was a time that was the case, so happy things are back to normal.
@alexdarcydestsimon3767
@alexdarcydestsimon3767 Год назад
We're glad he survived. ;-)
@SandManEXP
@SandManEXP Год назад
Well you aren't in a timeline where this is the best for one. Primitive skills is my boy. Uploads way more regularly and makes a a lot more advanced stuff.
@shaharsdechen2537
@shaharsdechen2537 Год назад
real
@alexdarcydestsimon3767
@alexdarcydestsimon3767 Год назад
@@SandManEXP we don't care about copy cats. + K.I.S.S
@Kickass7895
@Kickass7895 Год назад
I conducted a similar experiment for a university course, using pine xylem to filter E. coli-contaminated water. My prototype was a bucket with multiple xylem spigots allowing the water to drip through with the assistance of gravity. We were amazed to find that it effectively removed the bacteria, as confirmed by an online E. coli testing kit. The water was deemed suitable for consumption
@kafk625
@kafk625 Год назад
How the heck does online E. coli test work?
@anormalrat
@anormalrat Год назад
Do you go to MIT? thats where he said he got the idea
@Kickass7895
@Kickass7895 Год назад
@@anormalrat No I didn’t. Haha. It’s just a coincidence :)
@kostka8152
@kostka8152 Год назад
@@kafk625 an e coli kit bought online
@foxmulder4653
@foxmulder4653 Год назад
Do the pines disinfecting properties kill or filter it?
@ShiraCheshire
@ShiraCheshire Год назад
I love how underwhelmed he is drinking it. "Yep, that sure is water."
@kiltmaster7041
@kiltmaster7041 3 месяца назад
"There's been a mistake. I ordered vodka."
@neraphruneblade7903
@neraphruneblade7903 3 месяца назад
@@kiltmaster7041 - well, the translation is the same.
@snufkin4374
@snufkin4374 Год назад
The LifeStraw's ancient relative
@marklepka2927
@marklepka2927 Год назад
Yup 😆
@rstainsbury
@rstainsbury Год назад
Hmmm…I think I’d still boil it; the siphon might filter sand and mud out of the water, but I doubt it stops bacteria, amoeba, viruses, parasites…
@isaaco5679
@isaaco5679 Год назад
Lifestraw - almost as effective as a terracotta pot!
@BrunoMaricFromZagreb
@BrunoMaricFromZagreb Год назад
Never heard of that channel before...
@derrickstorm6976
@derrickstorm6976 Год назад
Yea they don't grow anymore so it's ancient
@garnyd777
@garnyd777 Год назад
You're the only person that I'd still watch even after 7 years lol. Thank you for all your hard work, John.
@jonny_codphilo7809
@jonny_codphilo7809 Год назад
hes not called john
@smfbruh2911
@smfbruh2911 Год назад
This guy don't know shit:@@jonny_codphilo7809
@todyrodgers1169
@todyrodgers1169 Год назад
@soulbracket, plant? Woha, that's a name and a half.
@BABarracus6
@BABarracus6 Год назад
the other guys are fake and cause ecological damage.
@gerlsey
@gerlsey Год назад
MISTA PLANT
@Santibag
@Santibag Год назад
How you're doing primitive technology and still making us know that you're indeed living in a high tech era is really interesting. It feels like communicating with someone from ancient times, and sharing our technologies.
@thomasmarais5008
@thomasmarais5008 Год назад
Depending on the clay minerals dominant in your clay, it would also remove either cations (metals like lead or cadmium etc.) or anions (chlorine or sulphur)
@greatexpectations1461
@greatexpectations1461 Год назад
Could it remove onions?
@thomasmarais5008
@thomasmarais5008 Год назад
@@greatexpectations1461 with some work, yes ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-QHCJ_ITAry8.html
@PianoMastR64
@PianoMastR64 Год назад
If you knew enough about the clay you're using, you could make a double layered pot. cations in one layer and anions in the other
@ergile172
@ergile172 Год назад
@@PianoMastR64 i mean... i guess... but why...
@thomasmarais5008
@thomasmarais5008 Год назад
@@PianoMastR64 well if you mixed the minerals together it'd be one layer that would remove both, but you would need to know what the minerals are to make sure you had equal amounts of both positive and negative charged clay minerals
@friendlyneighborhoodcrackh6059
I can’t tell you how glad I am to see you back and posting so consistently. Your videos are always the highlight of my day when I see them. Just a few short moments to step away from the pains of modern living and breath in the sounds of nature while getting to watch someone make some all around cool shit. Keep on keeping on. Your work is well appreciated.
@wooshbait36
@wooshbait36 Год назад
cool, but like, save that for a conference meeting
@Cracklord
@Cracklord Год назад
Absolutely agree! Was a little disappointed this one was so short, but other than that I also always enjoy these.
@bigphillyed
@bigphillyed Год назад
I don't think he realizes he could make an insane career just from his videos. One video a week could net him over $6,000 USD per week. Crazy wish I had his subscriber count.
@Raycheetah
@Raycheetah Год назад
@@bigphillyed These videos usually take a lot longer than a week to prepare, mostly due to the labor involved. He could never keep up that pace. ='[.]'=
@JohnSmith-ud9ex
@JohnSmith-ud9ex Год назад
@@bigphillyed He already has...
@MollymaukT
@MollymaukT Год назад
Clay filters are very traditional in Brazil and have been used for a long time (and still are in regions with difficult access to water). My grandma had one and is the best tasting water in the world.
@Kavriel
@Kavriel Год назад
That's crazy, i've had never even heard of those before this video. It's strange to me how different our experiences can be, even in our modern time.
@SirHenryMaximo
@SirHenryMaximo Год назад
We own two of those in my home. For our friends overseas, nowadays the complete set is basically two clay pots stacked one over the other, with a proper industrially-made filter between them. However, back in the day, people would actually use plain clay pots called _moringa_ to filter, boil and store water. Edit: we do have running water and a clean, stable suply of it, but it is still Brazilian culture to own aditional filtration systems, for in some places the water mains are still old, and sometimes dirt contaminates the water during maintenance.
@secretsquirrel6308
@secretsquirrel6308 Год назад
I say if you haven't heard/read/seen this is due to your lack of experience. Clay pot filtration has been in use in many cyltures for thousands of years. Please broaden your horizons.
@Handles_arent_a_needed_feature
@@secretsquirrel6308 nah im good
@Kavriel
@Kavriel Год назад
@@secretsquirrel6308 My interests include physics, gardening, blacksmithing, writing, fitness, 3d modeling, sculpting, hiking, reading, history, art, AI, medicine, politics, I could go on and on. I don't have a horizon. I also don't know everything and never will, though I'll keep learning all my life.
@Emmuki091
@Emmuki091 Год назад
There is this water filtering system people would use where I come from (Canary islands), and maybe in other places as well. They used these volcanic rocks as filters, and clay pots to hold the "dirty" and "clean" water. This contraption would catch rain water or just water brought from wells and such. There was one at my grandma's house, though not in use anymore. She would always leave an empty glass by the pots as a reminder of its use, and explain it to me when I was younger.
@RealLargeManTheGiantOne
@RealLargeManTheGiantOne Год назад
I also find the farming techniques very cool over there, digging pits that collect moisture in the morning and protect the plant from overexposure to the sun
@krislarsen6546
@krislarsen6546 Год назад
I imagine that kind of filtration technique would leave some traces of sulfur from the volcanic rocks.
@cta_atlas
@cta_atlas Год назад
Aren't volcanic rock used in a similar way in fish tank filtration?
@COLDCHEMICALpresents
@COLDCHEMICALpresents Год назад
Oh neat. Thanks for sharing.
@Hellsong89
@Hellsong89 Год назад
@@krislarsen6546 That is what i was thinking, but it could be those rocks are collected from the sea shore where water has dissolved sulfur away over time, so those materials that are water soluble are already in the sea water. Also salt in sea water could collect crap out, but dont quote me on any of that.
@GooseMessiah
@GooseMessiah Год назад
Would love to see a before and after of this water under a microscope. Super interesting
@roberthak3695
@roberthak3695 Год назад
Full or parasites and bacteria
@Salmacream
@Salmacream Год назад
@@roberthak3695 But the density? The types? If you boiled the water first would it change anything? Adding a charcoal layer? This is super cool dont just write it off man.
@mistaowickkuh6249
@mistaowickkuh6249 Год назад
@@Salmacream some guy here on youtube does some boiling experiments with some pretty nasty water and after enough time of boiling everything dies. There are experiments where he leaves random plants and dirt in water for a week I think. He does microscope footage of all the stuff it's pretty dope.
@Salmacream
@Salmacream Год назад
@@mistaowickkuh6249 it sounds like it XD
@mneech609
@mneech609 Год назад
We'll simply have to wait until the dude unlocks a microscope
@known-bug
@known-bug Год назад
really grateful for the last 10 months of videos (wow has it been that long already!). It's been an absolute joy having you back
@TinhNguyen-dh3dh
@TinhNguyen-dh3dh Год назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-9kzWwnn9H7o.html&feature=shares
@MrOligapx
@MrOligapx Год назад
it is not a clean water, wtf with you all guys? He can die after drink this...
@Zeitgeist420
@Zeitgeist420 Год назад
Hello John, thanks again for your valuable information. As a long time viewer I know about your detailed subtitles and I enjoy them a lot, but maybe some (new) viewers are missing out on them? You could add a small icon or something for the first few seconds of your videos, so your complete work can reach more people. Cheers Mate
@MrReckless327
@MrReckless327 Год назад
i never knew that thanks
@christasmiles8838
@christasmiles8838 Год назад
thanks! thats great
@MrOligapx
@MrOligapx Год назад
it is not a clean water, wtf with you all guys? He can die after drink this...
@tom-nl7fg
@tom-nl7fg Год назад
^^^^OHHH MANNNN thank u mery mery much i did not know this help this post get to the top and like this
@kugelblitz5229
@kugelblitz5229 Год назад
It says something of the quality of his videos when millions of people may have been watching without subtitles, still just as captivated.
@jamessawyer8744
@jamessawyer8744 Год назад
The clay pot filter blew my mind beyond it. Like that is literally a survival tool in my eyes now.. thank you ☮️
@jasonjayalap
@jasonjayalap Год назад
You can extend the life of your filter by using settling/sedimentation, like a three pot settling method (~48 hours of settling), first. Or if you have fabric (I see you don't have your sari on) you can fold it 4-8 times and get a ~20 μm filter. But maybe the outside-the-pot technique is better, depending on circumstances. Check for cracks with the clay pot method (short circuits in the filter). Note that these methods aren't great with viruses (clay without silver; gymnosperm xylem according to MIT).
@brandlee5089
@brandlee5089 Год назад
이 분이 원조이며, 진짜 야생에서 적응하는 모습 보여주는 분입니다. 다른 기망하는 유튜버와 달리 하나씩 직접 공부하고, 촬영해서 편집까지 하시는 찐 리얼리티 유튜버! 정말 오랜만에 찾아왔습니다. 반갑습니다. Happy NewYear!!! 그리고 건강하세요!
@ZoonCrypticon
@ZoonCrypticon Год назад
Although I am not that enthusiastic in relation to the first concept, the second idea is brilliant and resembles the idea of modern ceramic filters in water purification devices! Great artisanship!
@TinhNguyen-dh3dh
@TinhNguyen-dh3dh Год назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-9kzWwnn9H7o.html&feature=shares
@joshuaharper372
@joshuaharper372 Год назад
The pores the water seeped through are even more tiny than those in most modern ceramic water filters.
@armoule8596
@armoule8596 Год назад
That’s why they clogged up so quickly
@SevenFunFacts
@SevenFunFacts Год назад
This is the real primitive channel with some knowledge bomb, not that primitive swimming pool channels
@XavSim1
@XavSim1 Год назад
Let me be another one of those: I really appreciate these videos and the fact they are posted so constistently. Each and every one goes further than the previous one, so much so that I think this piece of technology is the last straw (pun intended) that makes it possible to live entirely from nature, at least in your environment. Thank you for sharing so much knowledge with the wide world.
@TheNewton
@TheNewton Год назад
For the source water there's also the desert sand technique, make a circular divot in sand/clay and pour water around the edge saturating AROUND the divot. The water will filter through the sand into a pool in the divot. This way also less gunk would build up in the elevated siphon jar for mold etc or blocking the cut ends of the cane with particulate.
@TinhNguyen-dh3dh
@TinhNguyen-dh3dh Год назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-9kzWwnn9H7o.html&feature=shares
@DDeden
@DDeden Год назад
That's good, keep the fine filter for what it does best, preventing parasites from entering.
@djazt.8053
@djazt.8053 Год назад
Oh and the slow sand filter. Where the actual filter element is a membrane of bacteria etc. that accumulates on top of a column of sand over time, and you filter from top to bottom through that column. For example with a ceramic pot that has a hole in the bottom.
@TheScarvig
@TheScarvig Год назад
@@djazt.8053 i think it would be interesting but challenging to make a reverse clay filter maybe combined with your sand filter. have a big long cone made of burnt clay that you fill to maybe a third with sand. then fill it with water and place it elevated so that the tip of the cone is over a collection vessel. the long shape allows for more hydrostatic pressure toward the tip of the cone accelerating the water pushing through the pores of the clay.whatever water seeps out along the sides will also run down towards the tip and be collected. the sand helps prefiltering and the the entire apparatus should be possible to be refreshed once clogged by burning it out. to prevent airflow which evaporates the filtered water before it drips into the collection vessel the thing could be set up in a tube like the chimneys he built for his iron smelting.
@RestorationEndeavours
@RestorationEndeavours Год назад
Love the work mate. Especially if you have been filming over the last few weeks, the humidity here in QLD has been nuts. Glad to see you are back posting again.
@TinhNguyen-dh3dh
@TinhNguyen-dh3dh Год назад
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@StardustCookie701
@StardustCookie701 Год назад
Just remember this channel is a legit channel in this sort of content
@danielwendell542
@danielwendell542 Год назад
Love watching you explore concepts and show us just what's going on. Thanks for being you and posting perfect content.
@LateralTwitlerLT
@LateralTwitlerLT Год назад
I'm always learning from this channel, and your ingenuity continues to impress me. Siphon-filtering the water was a really clever twist on the concept.
@primitivetechnology9550
@primitivetechnology9550 Год назад
Glad you found inspiration from this concept, much appreciated.
@followerofthetrain6336
@followerofthetrain6336 Год назад
Based name and glad you enjoy this guy too
@jardindedom-mage
@jardindedom-mage Год назад
@@primitivetechnology9550 ...si on te laisses un don tu laisses un commentaire 👍🏼😂...
@nickvanamburg
@nickvanamburg Год назад
What I love about this channel is that he doesn't need to speak to convey what he is doing. The camera shots are set up perfectly to allow us to become fully immersed in what he is doing.
@BuxtonsWater
@BuxtonsWater Год назад
Make sure you have the subtitles on though, it has a ton of information about what he is doing. A lot of people forget that.
@ddubspecial
@ddubspecial Год назад
What’s going to blow your mind is there’s captions.
@HeatcrowMedia
@HeatcrowMedia Год назад
The subtitles are also very informative if you would like a different experience.
@Sphendrana
@Sphendrana Год назад
The subtitles do all the talking (post edit) for him 👌
@jacobkomnath7961
@jacobkomnath7961 Год назад
The clay pots was brilliant. It reminded me of a video I saw recently where this guy was showing how way back in the day people would use these big clay jugs to keep water cool in the summer in the desert. The water would slowly seep out and evaporate from the sides which keeps the water cool inside somehow. So when I realized what you were doing with those pots of yours, blew my mind, brilliant i tell you
@ThrobbiusMaximus
@ThrobbiusMaximus Год назад
shoutouts Andy Ward
@peccantis
@peccantis Год назад
The evaporation keeps the jug cool just like sweating helps humans keep at a reasonable body temperature. Think of it as trying to boil a kettle of water by heating up the little stream that's pouring out of it. The water starts out cool as it's pulled from a well. It's put in a large jug. If the jug doesn't sweat, and it's dark coloured and put in sunlight, the water will soon be hot, with the dark jug walls absorbing the ambient heat as well as the heat from sunlight, becoming hot, and releasing that heat into the water next to the walls, and the water next to the walls releasing the heat to the water in the middle of the jug. If the jug is out of sunlight, it warms up slower. If the jug isn't dark, it doesn't absorb heat as efficiently, even in shade. If it's protected from wind, it warms up even slower, because air is very ineffective in transferring heat, and stopping new hot air from coming to the jug with the wind makes that transfer even less efficient. But if the jug on top of all that also sweats, seeping water slowly to make the walls damp, something special happens. The surrounding hot air releases heat into the water on the surface, making it evaporate. Water takes a lot of energy to evaporate, so this takes some time, especially if wind can't bring hot air in. By the time the water on the surface has evaporated, more has seeped out! This water comes from the cool insides of the jug, so it takes just as long to evaporate (if not longer, since the air around the jug is now a bit cooler after giving al that heat to the evaporated water).
@Ozjackaroo792
@Ozjackaroo792 Год назад
just for anyone wondering, if you turn on subtitles he provides detailed explanations of what is happening 😁
@tcp3059
@tcp3059 Год назад
I'd like to put a caveat on this, from the perspective of a water treatment operator. The cane does a pretty good job at clarifying the water, this is true. And removing the turbidity (read: suspended particles) does remove a significant portion of the bacteria present. However, it is not nearly enough. I need to re-up on my Regulations course, but I definitely know you want more than 99% removal of pathogens, especially in a tropical zone like that. Typically you want at least 3-log removal (99.9%), if not 4-log (99.99%) or higher. Therefore, I would still recommend boiling the filtered water before drinking it.
@nullifye7816
@nullifye7816 Год назад
This is the comment I was looking for xD Thanks for based facts. I wouldn't be comfortable drinking water with only 99% of the dysentery removed :/ Still fascinating.
@tcp3059
@tcp3059 Год назад
@@nullifye7816 No problem
@andersmoore
@andersmoore Год назад
This guy is the only RU-vidr brave enough to put a up a 5 minute video. Awesome content, thank you.
@yourmum69_420
@yourmum69_420 Год назад
lol what?
@rookiebeotch
@rookiebeotch Год назад
​@@yourmum69_420 the algorithm favoring vids of specific length, like 20 min
@yourmum69_420
@yourmum69_420 Год назад
@@rookiebeotch I think it favours shorts nowadays tbh, so less than 1 min. But there are lots of vids of every length
@chadoftoons
@chadoftoons Год назад
@@yourmum69_420 Shorts would need to be uploaded as shorts in a mobile friendly aspect ratio instead of a 5 minute PC favoring aspect ratio.
@turuff7114
@turuff7114 Год назад
I tell ya some people down these parts of the world are just built different 😉
@crystalsoulslayer
@crystalsoulslayer Год назад
Wow, you're brave. I'd definitely have wanted to have a lab test the water before drinking it. These are really cool ideas for filtering, though, especially in concert with other renewable concepts.
@codygosney976
@codygosney976 Год назад
Very interesting about the filtering through the xylem of the cane plants in your locale. It makes me wonder if the reeds and various shallow water vegetation in southern Oregon where I'm from could be and were used for the same purpose by the native Americans there. One interesting experiment to try would be making the siphoning canes longer, maybe 2 or even 3 times, and then using the extra length to extend the downflow section of the siphon while maintaining the one in the source dirty water pot. The larger volume of water and gravity on it in the down flowing section of the cane might provide a stronger siphon and speed up the process a bit possibly?
@deathtoyoucapitalist8216
@deathtoyoucapitalist8216 Год назад
He can even cut the leght of the cane of the source dirty water pot.
@basbekjenl
@basbekjenl Год назад
So cool to see the water seeping through the clay, I had no idea it could do that.
@betterthantelevision
@betterthantelevision Год назад
Are they not fired or what? I didn't think the pots were water permeable
@drecksbongert4367
@drecksbongert4367 Год назад
@@betterthantelevision they are fired. and they arent nearly as permeable as when not fired. but to make them truly waterproof he would need to somehow glaze them. at least the inside, but i dont know if the glaze would maybe chip off if the outside would still let water in and have it seep under the glaze. if thats even how it works, im totally talking out of my a$$ right now
@kerim.peardon5551
@kerim.peardon5551 Год назад
I knew water will wick through a terracotta pot because you can use them in your garden as a slow, steady way to water plants at the roots, but I had never considered the fact that this would work in reverse if they were submerged in water and that this would filter the water. But clay is used as a water filter in some devices.
@Kalpit147
@Kalpit147 Год назад
@@betterthantelevision they are and thats also how the concept of earthern pots work. The water that very slowly seeps out gets evaporated and that makes the pot and the water cool. They wold need a coating to be waterproof.
@necrorebel5718
@necrorebel5718 Год назад
I did some pottery classes about ten years ago, and from what I remember, how permeable a pot is depends on how hot it was fired. John here usually produces earthenware, which doesn't dissolve in water like rough clay does but is porous and thus permeable, since in order to produce the nonporous stoneware he'd have to get much higher temperatures in order to vitrify the clay (basically partially melting it into a glass). To do that he'd need similar, if not more, heat generation as is produced in his iron-smelting setups, which isn't really practical for his larger pieces.
@Sphendrana
@Sphendrana Год назад
Oh wow this is amazing. I had always wondered how feasible it would be to store clean water in those pots, looking at the time lapse it seems not so much, unless they're already submerged! Awesome bit of wisdom right there I learned today, thanks so much for all your efforts. I really enjoy these. As soon as I saw the notification I stopped what I was doing and moved over to YT to watch this!
@VelaiciaCreator
@VelaiciaCreator Год назад
Maybe we'll see him experiment with glazing eventually.
@coolthinghere6853
@coolthinghere6853 Год назад
theres a partial sealing you can do with ancient-compliant pottery techniques by using fats/oils and heat on already fired pottery, but iirc it wont last andy ward has a lot on ancient & traditional american indigenous pottery methods on his youtube
@kanucks9
@kanucks9 Год назад
If fired correctly they don't leak. He made these ones porous on purpose. See the comment thread he's the top content on
@tigco1121
@tigco1121 Год назад
@@coolthinghere6853 Yeah I like Andy but I think it's fine in a survival situation because a big pot's worth is what you would need a day so you would drink most it versus what seeped out any way. Was thinking you could boil water in one pot then store it in the cooling one Andy did a video on until you drank it. Sound sufficient to me but what do I know?
@shadowtheimpure
@shadowtheimpure Год назад
That very slight seepage would create evaporative cooling though, so the water in the jar would stay pleasantly cool to drink.
@SomeScruffian
@SomeScruffian Год назад
Beneath Kitchen Sink: _Contains the most caustic chemicals known to man_ 2 Year Old: 0:31
@sullychow4123
@sullychow4123 Год назад
I didn't expect so many cool experiments from this channel. I remember wtahcing one of the vids years ago but didn't think you'd start incorporating new research into your videos. It's amazing.
@Ashandaeri3
@Ashandaeri3 Год назад
Your videos always remind me of my dad. before he passed away we used to sit and watch your videos together after I got off work. Keep going sir, you have a very good format that lots of people I know love.
@TinhNguyen-dh3dh
@TinhNguyen-dh3dh Год назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-9kzWwnn9H7o.html&feature=shares
@justinpyle3415
@justinpyle3415 Год назад
Your techniques are always masterful. Using the capilary action to siphon and filter through the bamboo, plus that ceramic pot trick.. man, those are worth remembering.
@pjk9225
@pjk9225 Год назад
the ceramic pot thing works in reverse too! theyre called "ollas" (oy -ahs) and lots of indigenous groups from the americas use them. fill up a ceramic pot with water. bury it in a field, and plant some things around it. it will slowly leech the moisture out, and prevent evaporation!
@Jkizzle4996
@Jkizzle4996 Год назад
Juuuuust in case I get lose in the wilderness in this exact type of forest
@didles123
@didles123 Год назад
But don't siphons use water pressure, not capillary action?
@stigmautomata
@stigmautomata Год назад
I don't think it's capillary action. It's the same principle that you could use to siphon gas from a neighbor's car + the xylem's ability to filter combined into one
@justinpyle3415
@justinpyle3415 Год назад
@@stigmautomata capillary action is exactly how xylem vessels work. I used the term siphon as a descriptor for how he pulled a vacuum through the plant before filtration and water motion began. This mechanism mimics the process of siphoning, and without due experimentation one cannot fully disregard the mechanisms responsible for siphoning or capilary action respectively.
@BenXu1
@BenXu1 Год назад
The use of science and siphon principle is simply incredible. I'm more impressed with this than the iron smelting and crafting videos!
@Hoggod
@Hoggod Год назад
Amongst all the fake wannabes I'm more than glad that the OG has made it and proved you can't fake hard work and honesty. This guy is the messiah of this field.
@FlightlessProd
@FlightlessProd Год назад
I bought your book. Thanks for sharing the information with us in a way that is transportable and more permanent than RU-vid.
@okluge85
@okluge85 Год назад
Man, I always remember I have to turn on captions like 60% into the video and restart when watching these haha :) Edit: Also just to add; I am so glad you're making vids again. This channel many years ago got me into bushcrafting, and it's been an amazing ride since :)
@anonymous14
@anonymous14 Год назад
I watch first without subtitles and then again with subtitles. Watching without is entertaining and relaxing, and watching with is a bit less relaxing but informative.
@TheRoro390
@TheRoro390 Год назад
Been watching his videos for years and i had absolutly no idea there were subtitles ! Thx !
@SwoleakhulTheBlind
@SwoleakhulTheBlind Год назад
Rookie mistake
@jasonlackner8320
@jasonlackner8320 Год назад
Never knew of this. Thanks!
@okluge85
@okluge85 Год назад
@@anonymous14 I do the same thing, just accidentally :)
@glitchylol2546
@glitchylol2546 Год назад
Congratulations! You have officially become the definition of cutting the bulls**t, and not faking anything. Plus the definition of continued fan support.
@davidfhth6842
@davidfhth6842 Год назад
kinda ironic that the best youtube channel is about bushcraft survival
@lanim6129
@lanim6129 Год назад
waited a whole month for this and it was worth it
@Lozoot2
@Lozoot2 Год назад
0:17 ah, the time-honored tradition of will it blow. I give that one half a ruffalo.
@wilrod140
@wilrod140 Год назад
Just wanted to say thanks for all the effort you put in to your channel and for not faking everything like all the channels that copy yours do.
@davek2068
@davek2068 Год назад
This guy is just plain awesome, never lets us down with any video. Always great content.....every time. Thanks!!!!!
@erikziak1249
@erikziak1249 Год назад
Did the canes affect taste? The pots seem to be a better solution, they might be slower, but the water looked better. Of course, it would be best to bring it to a boil and cool down before drinking.
@moonbear5929
@moonbear5929 Год назад
Definitely agree to boil that water before drinking it.
@austinbevis4266
@austinbevis4266 Год назад
This would absolutely need to be boiled. This won’t remove pathogens, just dirt and particles. It’s also worth noting that mosquito larvae start appearing after just two hours in stagnant water.
@LordDragox412
@LordDragox412 Год назад
@@austinbevis4266 Free extra protein :D
@hobohobo13
@hobohobo13 Год назад
@@austinbevis4266 according to the channel's info/comment up top, MIT engineers did test with pine branches and it removed 99% of pathogens.
@austinbevis4266
@austinbevis4266 Год назад
@@hobohobo13 these are canes
@eddo2001
@eddo2001 Год назад
Wow I stopped watching like two years ago thought you disappeared and stopped making videos. Glad to see you back.
@jackhandey3290
@jackhandey3290 Год назад
So happy to see you making more content recently. Can't get enough.
@stelley08
@stelley08 Год назад
Glad to see you did a video on this. I saw years ago someone cutting a fresh small branch off a tree then whittle it down to fit tightly into the end of a coke bottle, which was full of muddy water. They tipped it upside down and over time the small branch (about 10cm long) filtered the muddy water into clear water.
@Moccason
@Moccason Год назад
1:53 And, as he placed the final stick into his magic potion, his powers became so strong that he ✨poofed✨ into nothing
@censusgary
@censusgary Год назад
Still the best channel on RU-vid, and it doesn’t even have cats.
@doniakillian8797
@doniakillian8797 Год назад
At least when everything is blown up by the end of the year we'll have people like Primitive Technology to keep the human race alive
@joakim2407
@joakim2407 Год назад
I got legitimately excited when I got the notification for this video. To be honest, having you back on RU-vid is great. I really enjoy all of your content.
@TinhNguyen-dh3dh
@TinhNguyen-dh3dh Год назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-9kzWwnn9H7o.html&feature=shares
@Chleosl
@Chleosl Год назад
Me either. This type of ingenuity and discovery of craftship should be respected
@mawchkenaw5373
@mawchkenaw5373 Год назад
These videos are so awesome, you inspire me to spend more time learning about nature and trying to do stuff like this.
@incomp97
@incomp97 Год назад
Water treatment professional here. Love videos like this, never seen anything like this to have cane poles filter water through a siphon. So cool
@OliveDoctor
@OliveDoctor Год назад
Your videos are a treasure among this platform. Keep the good work. Thanks for this amazing content
@finnpalm9951
@finnpalm9951 Год назад
I would like to point out that while this might work to remove visible pollution in the water I would not deem it drinkable simply from filtering out those particles. Avoid stagnant water as a source for drinking water. And always boil it, keeping in mind the rule "big bubbles - no troubles". Filtering is nice for removing particles, but always boil water you find in the wild.
@jokcho5
@jokcho5 Год назад
so much this. viruses, bacteria, cysts are all still present and clay particles is the least of your troubles. Always boil the water.
@SWAT6809
@SWAT6809 Год назад
primitivetechnology's comment reads as follows "I got the idea for this from MIT researches who filtered water through a pine branch. Apparently it removes 99% of the bacteria in the process." :D
@verybarebones
@verybarebones Год назад
Boiling doesnt remove clay, filtering doesnt remove viruses. Should probably do both.
@A_A828
@A_A828 Год назад
Yeah I would never just drink this stuff straight like that. Probably would if it's boiled though. (And if I know the soil isn't contaminated with heavy metals or something.)
@Voron_Aggrav
@Voron_Aggrav Год назад
​@@SWAT6809I'd still would boil it just to be sure, no such thing as overkill when it comes to survival safety
@ncc74656m
@ncc74656m Год назад
That's a fantastic idea! The only thing I would add is if you know you're pulling from a soiled source, you should still boil it if able. In a dire survival situation where a fire isn't an option, this will still be vastly better than the inevitable dehydration.
@rockyblacksmith
@rockyblacksmith Год назад
Though this is REALLY slow for a survival situation. There are water filter setups that work a lot faster, and variations of which you find in pretty much any survival handbook; A container with a small opening at the bottom, filled with fine sand or earth at the bottom, and then ever coarser material (pebbles and then rocks) the further up you go. Often a layer of charcoal is added to absorb anything organic, and some will use cloth layers if available. I've built one like that myself, it cleans up the water extremely well, and the flow rate is significantly better than this here. Something like this, particularly the siphon setup, might be useful as a static setup when you want a steady supply of filtered water without time constraints. It would be a lot easier to maintain since you only have to refill the top container.
@BoarhideGaming
@BoarhideGaming Год назад
Yeah, I was wondering whether or not this removes micro bacteria or viruses, since stagnant water in particular is incredibly dangerous to drink. I wouldn’t even necessarily trust modern trekking water filters to fully remove bacteria from contaminated waters, especially in a survival situation where the resulting diarrhoea could easily be fatal. And that’s not even mentioning other poisonous substances, like heavy metals. These vines are a very neat trick, but I’d be very careful with it (and seeing the flow rate, you’re kinda forced to take it slow)
@joshpoole6056
@joshpoole6056 Год назад
Seems like it takes too long in this environment, like how many mosquitoes already laid larva in there in that amount of time? 🤷
@michaelb1761
@michaelb1761 Год назад
@@BoarhideGaming I wouldn't worry about heavy metals or carcinogens in a survival scenario, since hopefully, you won't be drinking the water for more than a few days rather than a few decades. For modern membrane filters, it would depend on the source. For instance, if it is a cow pound where you can expect a variety of nasty amoeba, I would definitely filter and disinfect.
@johnmiguelasilo5849
@johnmiguelasilo5849 Год назад
Bro I've been watching your videos since 2017-2018 not sure of the the exact year, I appreciated the content you make I really enjoyed it and love it. I hope you get still be making this videos more because I learn so much in this. I'm hoping you would read this big fan here
@everydaycompress4259
@everydaycompress4259 Год назад
i rmbr watching this guy like 8 years ago he made a hut and a fireplace .....and so survival channels were born ..this guy the OG TRIPLE of survival videos
@SHINYREDBULLETS
@SHINYREDBULLETS Год назад
Been watching for years with a sense of mild wonder. Finding out you can filter water through pine branches and a basic siphon effect is *mindblowing* - really appreciate your videos dude!!
@brenopaiva7969
@brenopaiva7969 Год назад
We use clay filters commonly in Brazil to this day, though a much more refined version! Great video!
@lewdards1127
@lewdards1127 Год назад
thank you again man legit i love these videos so much. the education and entertainment value is like 100% on point
@etienedalcol
@etienedalcol 5 месяцев назад
Tip: make two pots of clay, one larger, one smaller but with a big lip, so it fits in the larger pot, but is suspended. When you make the smaller one, add a layer of charcoal between the clay at the base. Add water to the upper pot, wait until it leaks into the bigger one. This should be an excellent filter that lasts a couple of years until it clogs.
@ScoopyJoe
@ScoopyJoe Год назад
So happy you're back with regular videos!
@TheMysticGauntlet
@TheMysticGauntlet Год назад
Hands down, the best content on RU-vid! Miles better than most things coming out nowadays.
@causetheplumstasteyum7848
@causetheplumstasteyum7848 4 месяца назад
The OG of real Primtech vids still going strong and regular uploads , good man !
@MCRuCr
@MCRuCr Год назад
the only legit primitive technology channel
@SpacedAiroh
@SpacedAiroh Год назад
I always make sure to watch your stuff when it comes across my feed. Love what you do and how you do it
@gunloco5207
@gunloco5207 Год назад
I remember watching this guy/channel b4 he had 1mil subscribers his content is still some of the most entertaining and I'm happy for his success 🙌
@benlabarre5547
@benlabarre5547 Год назад
Have you considered a gravity fed filter (gravel->sediment->sand->charcoal->output)? I’ve had mixed results, but when I made a duel system (2 filter system) it got better and after a few weeks each filter began improving, though you will want to exchange the charcoal medium periodically.
@Szgerle
@Szgerle Год назад
It could be easily done as a tower of stacked up clay pots of the same side, maybe even add interlocking notches to their lips and bottoms. That way they could be easily upsized and left on their own to filter for possibly days.
@Wulfik19
@Wulfik19 Год назад
This works as a first step but you would still have to boil the water as that filter clears out dirt and sand and small particles but not bacteria. I mean it helps but still is not ideal only would be good like a "I am about to die of dehydratation and need water" it will give you water for few days but then diarrhea might set in and you are done for.
@Templarfreak
@Templarfreak Год назад
as wulfik said this wont give you totally clean water, but if the method in the video actually works (he says he got the idea from an MIT research paper, but the research paper in question is using pine branches, not the types of shoots he's using, which idk if they'd be as effective or not) then combining the two methods would be good, the layered filter with charcoal is great for getting VERY clean-_looking_ water, but this method in the video still appears to give somewhat dirty-looking water.
@danielbrowniel
@danielbrowniel Год назад
watch codys lab, he shows you how to make activated charcoal, homemade with super heated steam. This would be difficult to accomplish in nature but easy in a post apocalyptic world.
@ekskdks
@ekskdks Год назад
high possibility of stomach upset due to internal enteritis.
@JohnSmith-zs3ck
@JohnSmith-zs3ck Год назад
Been watching since 2016. Thanks for uploading these. Would love to see more primitive food related videos in the future!!
@TinhNguyen-dh3dh
@TinhNguyen-dh3dh Год назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-9kzWwnn9H7o.html&feature=shares
@kaydog890
@kaydog890 Год назад
Anyone here in 2023, though?
@isaactrockman4417
@isaactrockman4417 Год назад
@@kaydog890 yes, millions of people…
@paul321go
@paul321go Год назад
@@kaydog890 Not me for sure
@vicocloutier9607
@vicocloutier9607 Год назад
Those videos are so refreshing, thank you sir as always !
@frequencymanipulator
@frequencymanipulator Год назад
😂💦
@8ByteBrian
@8ByteBrian Год назад
The filtration system is amazing! It’s like looking at the very early beginnings of a stone age “industrial revolution”.
@graysonbrackett1313
@graysonbrackett1313 Год назад
This channel really helps you understand and appreciate nature.
@adammarier3909
@adammarier3909 Год назад
It's always content I didn't know I wanted to see, but can't stop watching once it's here. Fascinating and satisfying as always, thank you
@NinF37
@NinF37 Год назад
Absolutely love these more survival/food based videos! While I still love the building ones, these ones which focus on food, water, etc. are some of my favorites!
@Markone99
@Markone99 Год назад
Same
@namasayagiri
@namasayagiri Год назад
you do know he's the OG rite?
@joshuacheung6518
@joshuacheung6518 Год назад
The over the top building ones that build a pool and house by digging dirt with sticks in sped up time are scams. There's excavators and concrete involved and then they abandon them to rot after destroying the area they were in.
@joshuacheung6518
@joshuacheung6518 Год назад
Also note that this filter is not sufficient for safe drinking water. It's barely better than drinking the water untreated.
@PurpleBox89
@PurpleBox89 Год назад
Fantastic! It's truly amazing what nature provides.
@DevSecOpsAI
@DevSecOpsAI Год назад
Thank you for continuing this series, after 3 years I thought maybe it's done for good
@wolf2403
@wolf2403 Год назад
I find it quite fascinating the ideas you come up with or find, and the implementation is almost always excellent. How much time do you spend doing work on that?
@TinhNguyen-dh3dh
@TinhNguyen-dh3dh Год назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-9kzWwnn9H7o.html&feature=shares
@vaidotasremeika7200
@vaidotasremeika7200 Год назад
Thank you for the incredible content, as always. Glad to hear there were no stomach issues for you, and grateful that you still suggest boiling the water afterwards. While it might not be accessible in some survival situations, definitely the best way to be sure.
@redsun420
@redsun420 Год назад
This man posted from so long ago his viewers are survival experts now
@vinnynarkia1641
@vinnynarkia1641 Год назад
nunca deixe de postar seus vídeos, eu amo eles, assisto a muitos anos!
@ozama9757
@ozama9757 Год назад
deu até um orgulho hoje quando vi um video sobre os cara que fazem esse tipo de video mas que são fake, dai o primitive tecnology foi a referencia de video confiável, que satisfação aspira
@emanoelanselmo180
@emanoelanselmo180 Год назад
@@ozama9757 acho que assisti esse mesmo vídeo e relembrei o quanto gosto desse canal
@unverifiedshadow
@unverifiedshadow Год назад
Amzing job PT! I would like to watch avideo of you creating a wheel with your techniques, I think this would be a great video idea.
@Miss_Raptor_
@Miss_Raptor_ Год назад
Holy cow so glad RU-vid recommended this to me again! Glad to see you back!
@Corymachine
@Corymachine Год назад
I love the cautious pause after drinking the water, like "maybe....maybe...maybe.... ok I'm still alive"
@rikuaotsuki6353
@rikuaotsuki6353 Год назад
Another idea could be to make a multi-step filter. For example, a fibrous mesh (or even a ball, if weaving a finer fiber's too much work) packed into a clay funnel to get anything large, then decanting to remove sediment, THEN passing it through a cane siphon for bacteria and finer particles. It'd likely take much longer to clog, but I imagine it'd also be a much cleaner result if the cane has a lighter workload, too.
@gustavchambert7072
@gustavchambert7072 Год назад
Or, you use the "clay pot in stream" method, then put that water through a cane siphon. That should produce pretty damn clean water
@paulbui1410
@paulbui1410 Год назад
​@@gustavchambert7072 Both are pretty smart however I'd have to give it to you Gustav as your method is more automatic rather than having to actively topping up the water. All he'll need to do is to build a small elevated reservoir with constant stream of water to submerge the pot so the cane siphon can constantly do it's work without losing pressure.
@gustavchambert7072
@gustavchambert7072 Год назад
@@paulbui1410 yep, or, you can find a small waterfall or similar, you probably only need about thirty centimetres of height difference, then put the pot in the stream above the waterfall and the cane-filter pot down below.
@TamperedProduction
@TamperedProduction Год назад
Another good idea is elevate the cane just bit when submerged in the muddy water pot, as heavy particles will still settle to the bottom over time, this would hopefully make your cane not clog up as quick
@jevans101
@jevans101 Год назад
Also, I think to have it drip into next Container, leaving the end less moist and therefore helping draw the water through the xylem. Then, not as high a curve, but higher platform height, as to keep the same length branches, but could be difficult with them breaking.
@andyjackson3663
@andyjackson3663 Год назад
There aren't many YT channels that when you see they have new content make you stop everything and watch straight away. This is one and anyone who hasnt subscribed needs putting on a register (or an island somewhere) - probably both tbh.
@Kayne86z
@Kayne86z Год назад
Braaahhh i just git my hard copy of ya book..... Brother thank you so much, i can finally live through my past DNA..... I can finally get back in sync with nature again.... Once again i encourage people who watch these clips to turn on the CC and buy the book if your a survivor and wanna live through these up coming events.... Peace
@BrandonDuncan1221
@BrandonDuncan1221 Год назад
Bro I'm giving this RU-vidr so much credit because some of his videos from the past I have got similar results no other primitive technology guys do what he does and he doesn't block out any of the extra credits you really need to see to build the product like he adds every single part you ever need this guy is the OG to learn how to survive on your own
@DoveAlexa
@DoveAlexa Год назад
commas are your friend
@tomdufresne1784
@tomdufresne1784 Год назад
Immediately had to check it out when I saw you had a new upload. Great video as always!
@jonathanwieringa8808
@jonathanwieringa8808 Год назад
Great as always? video isn't even out 5 minutes, only 2. watching in 4 times 😂
@DerpyDaringDitzyDoo
@DerpyDaringDitzyDoo Год назад
Fun fact about clay filters, we us a lot of them for disaster relief in Central America. We get them from a company called Eco-Filtro because they're factory made to be better than just making them by hand (I believe the clay mix has a little extra carbon?) and they come in a five-gallon bucket with a little spout. Put dirty water up top, get clean water out the bottom. Good for a family of 4-6 for 2-3 years!
@MoonLightCherryBlossom
@MoonLightCherryBlossom Год назад
신선하고 유용한 컨텐츠가 많아 눈이 즐겁습니다 ... 이것은 삶의 활력소가 됩니다 감사합니다
@georgestoica1509
@georgestoica1509 Год назад
Time to turn on those CCs, know what I mean? WOO!!!
@lokippp4182
@lokippp4182 Год назад
As usual Great job 🔥😄
@bilge677
@bilge677 Год назад
that pot technique to filter water was really clever, i can't believe i never thought of it!
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