Awesome man! I hope that soon Coleman will come to enjoy the success they had in the late sixties and seventies. Coleman was great back then. Good job little brother!
The 533 is a power house ! great video Sir I've not seen to much on the Primus stove myself but looks like solid lil stove does seem louder than the 533 though but it seams to get the job done
I own both these stoves and like them equally. The only problem I have (now) with the 533 is the gigantic price hike to purchase a new generator. At the time of this comment, they've gone up to almost the price I paid for the stove. The Primus overhaul kit is about $25, so (unfortunately) this has to be considered between the two. I watched some videos on cleaning out the 533 generator when mine started acting up and for now, it's still running.
My old optimus SVEA 123 Climber, is still my preference after 50 years and owning these two and two other Colman backpack stoves and one other Optimus stoves.
Both of the stoves are great! The coleman also wins out for ease of setup and simplicity. Colemans are easier to start up as well, but the primus wins for pot stability and the ability to fit a really tight windscreen. Also the primus also packs smaller. The fuel tank is scalable to the length of the trip... plus there is the ability to burn kerosene and butane blends... there's a lot going for the omnifuel despite the longer boil time. .
Come on Coleman!, kick that European UFO tinker toy's butt! Goold ole American heavy duty technology, beat it, drop it, abuse it, keeps on rocking hard and strong! One thing Coleman needs to do is have a modest higher cooking platform, it was showing all red and a lot of wasted flame on the bottom and curvature, while the Primus was blue white, but higher cooking platform. Proper flame heat with the inner flame (not the outer flame) is the highest heat point that should be contacting the cooking/boiling pot. Too low and the flame heat is lost as the outer flame removes the inner flame. Too high and the outer flame and inner flame heat are also reduced. If both stoves were properly tuned for height, there might be a good challenge then. But we'd still kick your butt Euros!
I've owned both. The coleman has a built in heat reflector. The Primus has much more open air around the burner if you use the Primus heat reflector ( side & bottom) I think you will see similar results.
When you compare time from cold start to boil, the Coleman 533 wins easily. You can go from cold stove to ready to boil in less than 30 seconds, and the Coleman reached a rolling boil at least 20 seconds before the Primus. The Primus takes a couple of minutes to prime from a cold start, and you have to run fuel out of the stove and into a cup... something that is unnecessary with the Coleman. The one advantage this particular Primus has over the Coleman is that it weighs more than a pound less. Yet, a Coleman 550B has a better (later design) burner, can burn white gas, unleaded gasoline, kerosene, JP-8, and a mix of these fuels, weighs within a couple of ounces of the Primus once you add the weight of the needed fuel bottle, is a one-piece take-it-and-go stove with less potential points of failure than the Primus, and boils even faster than the 533. The only reason Coleman doesn't make the 550B any more is because the weight weenies and the canister lovers have killed the camping stove business. If I had to choose between these two, I'd get the Coleman if I was car camping, moto camping, or wanted a stove to keep in case of an emergency or disaster... hurricane, etc.... and I'd scour eBay and pick up a 550B, or else get on Amazon UK or Amazon DE and pick up a 442 (camp fuel or unleaded gas only, no kero). Especially when car or motorcycle camping, you can fill up a fuel bottle from the remaining gas in the hose so fuel costs you nothing.
How much weight difference between them if you include that you need an aluminum fuel container usually not included in the weight of the primus Himalaya. Primus is 15.8 oz listed without fuel bottle. Add a 10 oz fuel bottle and the weight difference if probably like 6 oz. That's good weight to me and you don't have to dick around setting it up when it's-30 in Canada. My vote goes to coleman like stoves all the way
Colman is hard to beat the other stove is more compact for back packing but I guess if you count the fuel bottle it would be around the same space. if you put the colman stove in a back pack does it leak fuel? I have noticed in a few of your videos your reloading supplies in the back ground and I'm new to reloading and was wondering if you had a separate channel for reloading or not? I love the way you explain things you make it easy to learn is the reason I am asking love the video merry Christmas and God bless
I took mine to the beach several weeks ago to test, and also so I can have a hot meal & coffee after swimming in 14C temp water. Took it in a messenger bag. Didn't leak. As long as the filler cap is screwed tight, the cap's rubber seal is good, and the stove isn't pumped up, you shouldn't have leaks. That being said, after using it and when its cooled down, its best to unscrew the cap to depressurise the stove, before packing up. The idea is to reduce the chance of leaks, especially if the red switch is somehow bumped to the on position in your bag.
What brand pots are used in the video? The reason I am asking is that I have a 533 stove and looking for a pot that the stove will fit in when I go back packing. Thanks!
So from your other video the 508 is even better? I really like the durability and simplicity of these single unit design of these Coleman stoves. Seems to me that even a primus Himalaya has a lot more stuff to go wrong, loose tight connections to hose ends, or just loose a part during disassembly. The Coleman is so simple you just store it in a big pot. Thoughts?
It's an unfair test, maybe the Coleman used more fuel, so perhaps the Coleman will cook less meals for the same amount of fuel as the primus? Any idea on this?
The only flaw I see in this test is that, where you have the fan, is that the pot on the Omnifuel is acting as a windshield to the burner on the 533 giving it an unfair advantage. Put the fan in a crosswind position, should even out the result. Might even put the Omnifuel ahead of the 533.
Colman 2:20 as I expected 2:20to@ @ 2:30 max as mine does every time I was not sure what the Himalaya would do (new it wouldn't be much more ) and don't want to live on the difference the impressive advantage I think is the weight difference and in this I think the Himalaya wins
