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@kekbotdio7945
@kekbotdio7945 4 месяца назад
Pretty lengthy discussion with Griever, hope ya'll have some snacks for this one!
@LordPenguin-qx8td
@LordPenguin-qx8td 4 месяца назад
What I really like is that Raian and Ohma are like yin and yang, because they had different problems when Shen introduced both the flow/point of power, and principles. Ohma needed better principles while Raian was shown to always have amazing movements, and Raian needed to learn the flow/points of power that Ohma already knew from the Niko style
@GrieverTheLionHeart
@GrieverTheLionHeart 4 месяца назад
Thanks for having me on here! Really enjoyed having a conversation with conflicting opinions!
@lmkandji7
@lmkandji7 4 месяца назад
in chap 37 Kazuo said (talking about Ryuki) "he's not a bad person, but at the same time, he's not a good person, either. He's a Blank Slate. And because he's a blank slate those of us around him will determine what he becomes". For me Shen is this kind of person too
@kekbotdio7945
@kekbotdio7945 4 месяца назад
Yeah, though, I think it's somewhat different with Wulong. He is the influence on everyone else... since basically everything comes down to the choices he makes. I have a video about the topic "Why He was always the villain." I specifically highlighted his influence, though I do stretch a few details. If Shen is influenced by anything... it's mostly himself (his memories or otherwise). That's why I think his different from Ryuki. Maybe his problem runs deeper, but I have doubts about it.
@JackHanma
@JackHanma 4 месяца назад
Great Surprise! The Meeting of the Tiger and the Dragon in this podcast. Nice to ear a collab between both of you guys
@GrieverTheLionHeart
@GrieverTheLionHeart 4 месяца назад
Long as I’m the Tiger!
@historyking9984
@historyking9984 3 месяца назад
It’s crazy how Raian beat William so well just in base. I kinda wish William did more
@Metrallata
@Metrallata 4 месяца назад
A one and a half hour ft. Griever? This is the schizophrenia fuel i didnt know i wanted. Time to watch it 13 times
@GrieverTheLionHeart
@GrieverTheLionHeart 4 месяца назад
Early Christmas gift!
@Prince_Brago
@Prince_Brago 4 месяца назад
Power level 1. Shen wulong 2. Gilbert wu ( clone of Beast Edward ) 3. The other Niko ( as his student fei wangfang was truly a monster ) 4. Xia yan ( trained by connector) or Kuroki Gensai 5. Ohma tokita = Kure rainin ( both are equal)
@psalms519
@psalms519 4 месяца назад
I love these conversations. Please have more of these long formed video conversations. Would be interesting to have a discussion Kengan Asura vs Kengan Omega comparison and split between readers and fans
@spadex8155
@spadex8155 4 месяца назад
24:00 well thats not entirely true Shen says I’ll give up on it if you can find me a good opponent so its not that he won’t kill Ohma and Ryuki he’d find another route towards his goal but if it doesn’t work out he doesn’t care morality or not and just because he lacks a moral compass or empathy doesn’t mean his actions aren’t evil. And this is why i view current shen as much nicer “Tiger Shen” had the same problem with Yi his friend, that Yi was asking him to pick a different path because it’s morally wrong and Shen’s like nah you guys i want to do it this way and bye bye dragon clan. So to a degree Shen is Evil like he won’t go out of his way to do an evil action but he most definitely lets evil shit slide 28:35 i mean Yamashita asks this to Shen and again he doesn’t really care about life he cares about his own goal Yamashita asks “DID YOU MAKE THEM JUST TO KILL THEM!!?” Shen says “hmm? Yeah, i guess that sounds about right.” 1:00:00 Louhan is the closest guy to Shen but Kuroki is probably catching up 1:01:37 Well seeing as how Shen himself says Louhan is the guy closest to him (and he was talking about strength people like to misconstrue it) Edit where i stopped video for now
@Metrallata
@Metrallata 4 месяца назад
I think griever is wrong. shen might have only killed people who were trying to kill him, but after he kicked the gasmask off of gaoh's face and when he impales him, Gaoh mukkaku was just trying to escape. One of his last thoughts was on how to escape. Shen is obviously very liberal with killing. You could argue that gaoh was trying 110% to kill shen but at the same time, shen wouldnt let him live. Even if gaoh came in in armor and with a chainsaw, killing him while hes desperately trying to buy time and or escape is still morally reprehensible, not really grey
@kenthargrave7973
@kenthargrave7973 4 месяца назад
Don’t forget about xia ji and yan. Really yan. Because he’s learning directly under the connector plus his superman syndrome
@liveyourlife4633
@liveyourlife4633 4 месяца назад
If the principles are the development of the technique of the redirection kata why Mokaku's surprise when Shen stop his spear ????? he is the founder of the Niko style originally. So I don't think Greiver is right about that the principles are an evolution of the Niko style. There's no one in Kingan who can stop someone's power like the Connector and Ryan.
@kekbotdio7945
@kekbotdio7945 4 месяца назад
True. I think it's too distinct. But the Niko style does use the "principles " to some extent, but I think it's nowhere near what Raian and Wulong can currently do.
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