Trailer looks like an older rave rig. Lots of speakers, small rack. I'd wonder if it's all banana connectors, or even bare ends. I had to do a gig on one once. Three different systems and loads of amps, cables everywhere, was a mess. All in mono as well, but they had an M7 from somewhere. Was an alright hour and a half show.. but the spaghetti still keeps me up at night.... Re turbo sound, floodlight is still a decent box for live music, linear research amps make a big difference though. Funktion one is fine for dance music.. don't try lavs on it though
Those old live desks with tons of channels like an Soundcraft MH-3 or Series Five or an Allen & Heath ML5000 make really great studio tracking desks. It gives you a high quality mic preamp and a very handy EQ and direct outs. Analog desks also let you track with zero latency and those old live desks have tons of aux's for headphone mixes. Sure its not a Neve, API or SSL but its better than all of those old digital mixers that only run at 48K internally. I have been using a ATI Paragon 2 for about a year now and I always wanted an SSL but could never justify the cost but I found a 48 ch ATI paragon at a theater that had went digital. API mic preamps and dynamics on every channel and the EQ is far better than any SSL EQ ever. I'm not going to be loading and unloading the desk like a tour would so its easier for studios to justify these analog mixers. But NO WAY would I go back to gigging with an analog console, but for a studio a 32 or 48 channel mixer is a good idea actually. So I can see where a live engineer would see an old analog desk and say NOPE, but a small home studio could really benefit from it. So I think there are people who would buy an analog mixer but it would serve a different purpose today! Cheers!! Great Video!!
I think you're abosolutley right, the only people I know who are using analog consoles daily have them in studios like you're doing. There are some great deals to be had if you've got the space.
That Roland personal mixing system is actually really versatile and sounds pretty nice. I know some folks who run other consoles and just use the personal monitoring system via a MADI bridge that Roland used to make. The best combo with them is Roland's own M5000 console, it has a special mode to turn one of the personal units into an "Engineers Monitor" that can mirror any users' unit at the push of a button so the engineer can very efficiently help out if needed. If the dude would just sell me the personal mixers for say $2k I'd probably go for it :)
Wow, I had no idea those M-48 monitor stations were so sought-after. Funny, it looks like someone made an offer on that package and it sold already. Thanks for the great info!
I dunno. These days, if it isn't Dante compatible I'm not buying. And, from it looks like, this uses the in-house REAC network protocol that Roland abandoned.
@@sonicjackalopeproductions3342 Yeah, I love Dante too. But, I still don't know of any other personal mixing platform that has the flexibility and ease of use of the M-48. Especially if you already have a Roland console.
Some decent deals here! I bought a Mackie Profx 12 from a guy on OfferUp but when i got it home the entire left channel of the main bus didn’t work. I’ve had it open a few times and checked all the ribbon cables/output jacks on the main bus board but no dice. Also no sign of blown components or corrosion on the main bus board. Wonder if anyone in your community might know how to fix it? Everything else works fine, just the left channel. Weird!
Almost no market for large format analog desks at all. Home studio or an install. I bought a package from a theatre (I only wanted the Meyer UPAs) that included a Crest VCA 48 desk. It had been used on three musicals before a new TD decided to go digital, and had an amazing roadcase. Got 800 bucks for it but it took almost a year.
I used to love mixing monitors on the Crest desk a friend owned. I don’t remember the model, but I don’t think it had the big meter bridge like the VCA 48. I bet he’s still got it in storage somewhere.
The Roland stuff is not bad but definitely not up to date. I would take it over a Analog setup but I don’t think you can get more than the asked 800$ for the full setup. Any higher, I would choose something else honestly.
my church has an M300. I loathe it, one of the most back to front consoles. and the lack of some features that even the equivalents consoles from competitors at the time had annoys me
Turbosound powered Milan cabs and subs are a GREAT sound for the price! I do enjoy them. But, that trailer is just a trash buy. Also, does that trailer have the title/tags? Without those, it would be worthless. At BEST, I would offer 3K. But, I am not interested in the trash Soundcraft mixer.
Yeah, if there's no title to the trailer, it's time to walk away for sure! Where I am, anything not completely rusted out seems to go for pretty good money. Everyone here seems to have some sort of trailer or recently used tow-hitch on their cars and trucks... myself included 🤣
In short, Furman conditioners don't do much to actually condition the power and are designed to work with relatively low and consistent current loads. They don't offer any protection for dynamic (relatively) high-current loads like power amplifiers. On a more practical note, like the listing in this video shows, you'd end up needing one for every amp to avoid popping the 15A breakers, which is just silly. You're better off investing in a rack power distro solution, like something from Motion Labs that can bring multiple circuits to a single rack to power your amps properly. www.motionlabs.com/products/rac-pac/
Furmans are fantastic for low amperage devices (rack gear, A/D converters, Dante networking gear, etc) and almost required for adequate surge protection. But one amplifier can have such varying load needs that the 15 or 20 amps these furmans can soak just aren't up to the task and don't protect the amp, especially when many hack DJ's use a power conditioner as a power strip, ignoring what their actual purpose is. Besides, I don't buy used Furmans. Their job is to get eaten up WHEN the power goes to shit or there is a surge. They are the disposable part of the equation that is designed to break before the REAL expensive stuff does.
Thanks for the replies fellas, much appreciated. I’m mainly using the Furmans in racks with Axe-Fx units. I have had a QSC PLX3102 PLX2 in a rack as a power amp for a biamped bass guitar rig for a while now. It is powered by the Furman. Maybe I should quit using it that this way after reading these responses. Do solid state vs tube amplifiers make a difference as far as the varying loads?
That's a tough question. It's going to depend a lot on where you are located, if you'll find a buyer at any reasonable price. Completed listings on eBay show these actually sell around $350 with $50-100 shipping on top. There are a pile of them not selling on Reverb for $500-$700+, so in person maybe $450 tops based on what I'm seeing, but finding a buyer is going to be tough.
