@@kylejensenmma1994 that actually makes a lot more sense. i didn't think you'd try to take a guy's head off in a point sparring match, but butch? yeah, he'd totally do that, lol. man, i hated getting hit by that guy. dood hits like a 747 jumbo jet. goodnight sweet prince
ive seen taekwondo used effectively its how people train it and how they dedicate there lives to it an example of this is Wonderboy >not this might be katate but its a point of how a person trains.
Reality is tkd has been even more nullified with modern rules such as seen in the olympics. Boxer can still take the hits and keep moving, once they break the distance its pretty much over for the tkd guy
A lot of people forget how much damage a boxer can take, I know Wrestling is a great base but I'm tired of wrestlers ONLY getting respect My bad boys, had to edit that one. Wrestling is a beast in itself. I respect it for what it is 1000%. I'm tired of guys trying to be elite one dimensionally To be elite train Boxing, Muay thai, Wrestling, jiu jitsu. It's the way God intended In my experience my wrestling really compliments my jiu jitsu Wrestling, Boxing, Muay Thai, Jiu Jitsu... train all 4 to be elite
@@BloodMoneyy it's just that the wrestling is so dominant compared to other styles of fighting. When pitted against other they just put you in a spot where they can derived your will to do anything. It is what it is. Doesn't mean it's unstoppable tho. An uppercut or a knee to a telegraphed takedown and they're goin to sleep.
As a Judo player for over 50 years, I have always believed that a boxer would on average come out on top in a contest of the fighting arts. Generally they train to roll/take punches, they have a very focused target (the head) generally they are on balance when they strike. As a Judo player I focus on the whole body, legs, arms, trunk. I am off balance when I actually throw someone in contest. But if the boxer misses his first strike, and steps in I have a chance, if it goes to ground my chances go up drastically. Ironically this video has created far more conversation than it deserves. It was a mismatch. Stay safe and enjoy whatever keeps you happy.
Very true. Boxers are really good fighters, and there are many of them, each with their own style and footwork. I may be wrong, but judging from the one shown in the video, I assume that the boxer is a heavy weight puncher considering his really slow punches.
@@shiroikistune2124 I think you're using video game/anime logic here where "big = slow". It's hard to tell how big these guys are, but they don't look huge either. If I was going by MMA weight classes, I'd say these guys look like middlweights which is around 185lbs. The reason the boxer looks slow is because he was loading up and telegraphing his punches. Normally, boxers don't want to do this because it's a great way to get countered and hit nothing but air. Since he (the boxer) was going up against a TKD guy who has probably never thrown a punch in his life, the boxer just treated it like an aggressive street fight knowing that would finish the TKD guy fast and brutally. There was no need for the boxer to feint, set up, use straights, etc.
The winner entierly depends on how they train Boxing is trained for fighting while other martial arts are trained for sport Theres a video of a karate Master who centered a bjj tournament and just broke everything by not going on the ground While the other guy was throwing him self on the ground and trying to take down the karate guy he was just standing
I boxed and still train at boxing but I think opposite to you. I feel you judo boys will bring most of us to the ground and fold us up😂. Boxing and judo be a lovely mix for the street I think.
Saw that coming a mile away. Did TKD in the 90s at a school run by a 9th dan Grand master and learned later that my school was exceptionally good on an international level, had the Hodori team visit yearly. Anyways I went on to do other arts and once I tried MMA and Boxing I learned super quick that while TKD is an outstanding "Sport" with great athletic qualities it has been watered down to the point of being best for mostly just that and off a points system with no face shots and minimal handwork focus so you rely on your feet to avoid head shots is a REALLY bad habit.. as you can see from this video, thing is TKD kicks can only come at you so rapidly even by the very best(hands will always be faster than feet), allowing breathing room between strikes to break off and reengage or reset but in a school that taught a more MMA applicable style I got hit in the face so many times because TKD tends to train that very low almost nonexistent guard and leaves you open to follow ups and hand combos. Also relying solely on your feet no matter how fast you are is not a great approach to a real fight as getting a kick caught or simply overcommitting sends your entire specialty out the window against someone who is good at counter striking especially if you arent really trained in grappling or hand work. Its why in MMA fighters dont use high kicks all the time, its a gamble and if caught you are in the worst possible situation for a tkd fighter. No the switch kick in the movies and on TV is not a reliable solution, I tried multiple times and I was one of those guys who could pull off a flying triple front kick which is not easy, in other words I was fairly flexible and very fast, they either just raised my caught leg which landed me humiliatingly on the floor or they simply kept me hopping by pulling me along forcing me to readjust my one supporting foot under me preventing me from getting a moment to throw my switch kick. Boxing has more of its ruthless efficiency, technical analysis and brutality still intact, at least at a professional level(not so much Olympic, different environment and focus). Pitting a pro boxer against a sport art like TKD is like pitting modern fencing against HEMA in a real swordfight, one is a sport built around scoring points and the other is literally designed to end your opponent brutally. I just imagine an elite TKD fighter against Mike Tyson and it would just look like that "heres johnny" scene in the shining.
Do itf taekwando not wt taekwando. itf is more similar to kickboxing in that it actually has punches and don't wear huge pads covering their torsos. Rather wt basically strips taekwando of everything to make it a fancy kicking based martial art.
@@samford2442Alright I’m going to go out on a limb here (get it?) and disclose something that will 100% get me ridiculed but here goes: I practice at home. Yep, at home, by myself, nobody to even check me except myself in a mirror + camera. So I’m probably fucking a MILLION things up but I am long as fuck. My legs are so oddly long, it almost feels like a shame to NOT use them like that. Is there a good middle ground for still looking somewhat flashy but still effective? Like tornado kick, obviously super flashy but with SETUP it could work right? Assuming you’re fast enough. A front kick is just so useful and so easy, but there’s no flash there right? Like would a question mark kick be a good example of a middle ground there? At the end of the day I really do just care about defending myself and others(I haven’t foregone other styles just to kick, that would be cool but stupid), but in a hypothetical sense, I’d still want someone to be impressed/scared right before I kick them….Am I rambling!?!?
@@QuantumMecha Flashy kicks are mainly meant to be used on stage or on screen in the beautiful art of fighting choreography But some CAN be effective. Say the tornado kick/360 kick. The best way to find if it's effective for you is to join a club and get familiar with it in sparring. Idc how many fantasies u make in ur head they won't be realistic until you actually take a punch to the face. Join say ITF Taekwando or Karate or Kickboxing, I would not recommend doing WT Taekwando as its mainly not a martial art but rather a sport made of Flashy kicks for show, ITF Taekwando is much better for practical use and also has Flashy kicks.
As a taekwondoin, i can see from his stance that he's a newbie, his kick is slow, and his arm position is wrong. I didnt meant to say that he's bad, it just not fair because you can see that the boxer is experienced. Edit: just try to make a match between a newbie boxer and a experienced taekwondoin. Gonna have the same result.
News flash, the boxer was also uh... not terribly sophisticated. I mean, he closed the distance, put a lead left into the opponents liver, followed up with a Suzie-q and it was good night Irene. The TKD practitioner had no idea that a punch could hurt that much, by the time he figured out this was a poor choice, he was asleep. Game. Set. Match.
@@teemun3979 I'm completely agree with you. Where I live is normal to see 15 years old children as Black belts, and normally that "Black belts" can't fight. You'll see them being destroyed by amateur boxers or street fighters (with the same age).
Agree. Besides, the vídeo says that the guy is a pro boxer, a professional, fighting someone who surely does TKD as a hobby. It's like having Mike Tyson fighting a lawyer who does TKD three times a week...
My advice to anyone that wants to start fighting is start with boxing first, then the world is yours from there. I started with boxing and then started ju jitsu. I was lucky to have great wrestling technique already, otherwise I would have done wrestling after boxing and then ju jitsu and that is an very rounded style to have. You won't always be able to throw a kick or take someone down to submit them so you better have good hands or you'll end up like this guy. Most fighting styles, other than boxing, teach you more offense than anything but you have to learn how not to get hit in the face (head movement), which is why boxing is so important.
@@oscarhallwyl whichever, just make sure the school is worth being in, the last thing you want is to end up in a mc dojo learning garbage ground game and horrible submissions. I do my research on the teachers all the time, they're generally not well known at all but atleast having a decent record and some recorded matches online can show they're worth teaching you.
i started with taekwondo then moved on to bjj, muay thai and boxing. Tkd always gave me an edge over anyone who tried to square up. This particular dude was doodoo and probably never fought before.
Yes, agreed. I started with TKD and it’s one of the things I’m known for when I spar/fight. You just need to know when to use it and how to use it. I started doing boxing a couple years ago and I admit, it really helps. But yeah, tkd don’t suck. It just has no hands. Not in a meaningful way anyways.
@@Ninja0608 I agree, the problem is most people who train TKD now do it for point sparring, which makes it absolutely pointless in a fight. Its not real TKD anymore
@@anguslazy taekwondo since it's less predictable and better moveset but copeira is just as powerful as taekwondo but just more predictable than Taekwondo which is why it's inferior
I still believe that it's the skillfulness of a fighter rather than the fighting style. (Keeping other variables like height weight etc in check ofcourse)
Boxing and Muay Thai tend to create fighters who are more skilled in stand-up fights because the training in these sports involves a lot of realistic, full contact, continous sparring, followed by actual fights with opponents who are going all out to hurt them. So, practitioners in these sports learn how to fight by gaining real fight experience. Wrestling and MMA also employ this same concept of learning to fight by actually fighting other fighters. Martial arts that focus more on learning moves and point fighting, with less continuous sparring and fighting, are generally less effective at preparing people for actual fights, because you can learn every move in a martial art, but if you don't have much real fight experience, then you'll never be able to fight as effectively as someone who does. So, a lot of the differences in effectiveness of different martial arts are down to how much fight realistic sparring and fighting its practitioners do. E.g. person who has been boxing for 10 years will have 10 years of real fight experience. So, a 10 year black belt in a traditional martial art will only be competitive with them if they have also been fighting real fights for the same amount of time. If the black belt has simply trained hard to become an expert in all the moves, and has won some point fighting tournaments, but hasn't had that many real fights, then they will be no match for the boxer who has been honed by 10 years of actual fighting.
@PJ Rivera na bro Ignacio might be good against amateurs but against world class fighters he’s just another nobody (eg :- Tenshin beat the living crap out of that guy)
@TimeTek Productions Lol You think I'm stupid? Lmao A bunch of clowns who think fighting a person of lesser skill? Size wasn't the primary issue and you literally tried ignoring the bulk of my comment. But I'm stupid? Lmao You've never fought real tkd fighter in your entire impotent life.
This is more a mismatch of skill and experience than the two arts. That’s a fact. Look at the boxer…bouncing and ready to go. Look at the TKD guy, flat footed and throws a slow ass kick. Not going to end well.
@TimeTek Productions no this guy won because he was a better fighter, not because boxing is inherently better. There are levels of skill in every fighting style. You're only as good as the effort you put in. An average boxer wouldn't beat every single tkd guy in world in a 1v1 fight just because he's a boxer, thats silly
@TimeTek Productions wonderboy uses a very taekwondo style. I dont disagree with u boxing is worlds better than taekwondo. But u sound ignorant when saying no one uses a taekwondo style and insinuating anyone with a boxing background can beat anyone with a TKD background.
You must be a karate punk? Just face it: it doesn’t matter how much you do kata, you’ll never be a real fighter. If your style doesn’t work then just switch it up
Do itf taekwando not wt taekwando. itf is more similar to kickboxing in that it actually has punches and don't wear huge pads covering their torsos. Rather wt basically strips taekwando of everything to make it a fancy kicking based martial art.
Well... that taekwondo guy looked like he never received a punch, maybe he is just the product of a Mac dojo. I say this because I think the style could have kept the boxing guy at bay with good kicks 🤔🤔
In a small ring you wont be keeping someone away for long. Also the game plan of the boxer Is obviously to cut the distance and move in. Like when u box any longer Ranged opponent in general
Not really, it's called inside pressure which is something most TKD guys aren't prepared to deal with in the first place. "Everybody's got a plan until they get punched in the mouth." - Mike Tyson.
@@Didermann that's kinda wrong but also right at the same time, i train wtf style taekwondo and it's not only kicks or punches we train, we train to be prepared mentally, train for self discipline and control, we must always be ready in a battle to do what we were told and try our best to not lose focus
@@insanity8119 Yeah sure bud, wtf tkd ain’t ready for real fighting. Which requires mental toughness and aggression, not training to get points. If it was available here in my country I’d go for lethwei and vale tudo for real fighting.
The problem with taekwondo is the sport, the martial art is so full with amazing skills, but taekwondo players just wanna black belt and gold in olympics
TDK isn't combat effective. take two newbies and 12 months. train one in TKD and the other in krav maga. which one is going to have real world combat ready skills?
Tae Kwon do has some of the best kicks and they really emphasize whipping the kick back to keep from letting anyone catch it. But if you want to be well rounded it can absolutely not be your only martial art. There’s an extremely low emphasis on punching and it’s nearly impossible to score with punches in the sport.
@@chriss1757 ya some tkd schools teach different sorts of self defense. But tkd as a sport itself in competition form does not make it so you can be a successful competitor if your focus is not almost strictly on kicks. And obviously in a real fight even the best kickers in the world throw more punches than kicks. So it is not a well rounded form of self defense. But I am sure there are schools like yours that have a teacher teaching good punching as well to where you could be a well rounded fighter. But the Olympic sport of tae kwon do only gives you one small asset of fighting
False. Your thinking of only wt taekwando like shown in this video, what about itf taekwando. Itf taekwando actually has boxing mixed with its kicks making it similar to kickboxing n sparring.
@@CorporaMedicina Yes, thats the general perception and what taekwondo has become. when sport taekwondo (Workd TKD ederation) rules were established back in the day, there was pressure to make different from karate, so punches were basacally sacrificed. Yet hand techniques remained in the forms / Poomsae (formal martial lexicon of the ART). The TKD world HQ is currently working on a new kind of sparring, thats supposed to be more "realistiqc" with regard to practical real life (martial) application...as it was originally.Personally I think its about time! !
@@CorporaMedicina it could also mean fighting smart: keeping his distance, pushing his opponent away and focusing on the longer reach of legs. If you know your opponent can't kick well and you're able to keep the distance, you win. He lost because he let the guy too close, allowing him to get in with punches.
A lot of people seriously underrate Judo these days. Besides Jiu Jitsu, Judo is one of the best japanese martial arts to pick up. Pro Judo fighters can slam you on the floor at any moment.
@@razatiger22 judo is probably the best style for de escalating so it definitely has its use in real world situations. You can completely subdue your attacker without inflicting severe damage.
A lot of martial arts are first made for defensive and offensive purposes, but through out all these years only some stood up to its past, it’s just crazy
@@almukhlabi Leg kicks are great in a 3 round fight, because they accumulate and drain energy. They are not instant knockout strikes though, and any half fit boxer will have strong legs and be able to take many leg strikes before he slows down. Unfortunately for the Taekwondo practicioner, a boxer will have knocked him clean out well before any leg strikes slow his movement.
I've seen this happen so many times with taekwondo guys trying to transistion to kickboxing or muay thai. They teach you to hold your guard low because there's no head strikes allowed in taekwondo. A lot of guys have trouble breaking the habit and get starched. Taekwondo is a legit martial art but its incomplete, not something wise to start off your training with.
Good point. Though there is a difference even within the Taekwondo realm. We have Wtf and Itf. Wtf is more tournament centric hence more towards scoring points. Dont know about the punches allowed on the face in Wtf's case. But with ITF, face punches are allowed. Maximum 4 or 3 but you'll have to combo it with a kick. I took up ITF Taekwondo since 2006. And one thing which plays a huge difference with other martial arts like Kickboxing, Boxing, MMA, Muaythai, we are not allowed to land swinging punches or upper cuts. Every punch has to be pulled back. So basically we have to be cautious. The set of rules in any martial arts highly differs from one another. And I passively agree with your point about how Taekwondo is incomplete as a martial art. It necessarily doesnt ensure safety or self defense if at all a street fight flares up. But one thing I learned from Taekwondo which I believe is the most important essence of the Martial art is "Discipline." Taekwondo disciplines you! I assure you, it will straighten your bad habits, put it in place with account to your hard work. With all this in mind, I took up MMA and I believe Taekwondo has paved my way to becoming a disciplined fighter. Never fought professionally and I dont even intend to. But just practicing MMA can really boost your morale. Peace
@@hokivisuu544 Oh yeah 100% agree with your point on discipline and morale. I think BJJ has served the same purpose for me. My bread and butter is striking, mainly kickboxing and boxing, but BJJ I feel has strengthened my mental game more so than those. As for the TKD rules, I didn't know all that, I've never actually trained in TKD, I've just heard they don't allow head strikes and teach you to keep your guard low, and assumed it was true because I've seen a lot of TKD guys come into my gym to try kickboxing and get whooped by making those mistakes. TKD sparring sounds like it's more centered around respect for your opponent and discipline as opposed to other striking arts. When I spar in kickboxing guys try to take my head off half the time, especially newer guys that feel like they have something to prove.
What I think is most interesting about these two martial arts is that each one is a fighting style that limits the user to one fighting aspect, punching and kicking. Since you’re only focusing on that one aspect you learn to master it. Boxing has the most versatile punches and counters to punching because that’s all you can do. Same with TKD.
TKD isn’t just kicking though, it does have punches and handstrikes (and limited throws which are not allowed in competition) but the emphasis is on kicks. Boxing is still much superior to TKD though
Do itf taekwando not wt taekwando. itf is more similar to kickboxing in that it actually has punches and don't wear huge pads covering their torsos. Rather wt basically strips taekwando of everything to make it a fancy kicking based martial art.
Stop pretending like you know everything about tkd, you don't even know what itf tkd is. Even look at a few itf clips and u'll see the original taekwando not this foot fencing BS.
Even Bruce lee admitted someone with 6 months of boxing training could prob beat most "trained" people from other fighting styles, which is why he "incorporated" it into his style.
The thing I found about kicking you need space for the sweet spot zones which usually are the Foot or the Shin, but if you step into the kick you reduce some of the damage, after which you can get a free shot straight to their face. The best counter for a Boxer are people who have Wrestling or Jiu-Jitsu like skills heck even a Football tackle would work, just go low to the waste or lower, after that a ground pound is all you have to do or just pick me up and slam them on the ground. If it's anything other than a cushion matt, that will usually keep em down, cause getting slammed on wood or concrete is quite painful.
Do itf taekwando not wt taekwando. itf is more similar to kickboxing in that it actually has punches and don't wear huge pads covering their torsos. Rather wt basically strips taekwando of everything to make it a fancy kicking based martial art.
I knew the result before watching. I did a little boxing training, then gained my 2nd dan in Tang Soo Do and now focus on a "kick boxing" version of TSD. From my little experience, the boxing techniques and kick boxing techniques always strike me as the most effective.
Every wrestler I've met also train boxing for stamina and every boxer I've met also train wrestling for endurance. Boxing and Wrestling are inseparable brothers.
@Ventryx if you have alot of stamina you are basically not even tired for a long time (you have alot of energy) Endurance is how much you can handle the pain of being punched and being tired so if you have alot of endurance you can fight for a long time even if you're insanely tired
Hands will always beat feet because you're not off balance when you attack. You can also throw multiple strikes and you have the ability to weave and defend.
@@flowrepins6663 literally just check the kick lol, muay thai is a good counter to boxing tho. Keep the distance with the kicks and when that fails go for the clinch, fight won right there.
@@liamkerr7183 If you haven't practiced checking kicks and conditioned your shins to take the pain though, which there's no reason to assume a boxer has, checking a Muay Thai style kick would probably crumple anyone trying it. You're definitely not going to be able to position your leg optimally to take it by the knee. That's an acquired skill. It's not as simple as, "Just check it, duh!"
It's good to know boxing first or as one's baseline. Ive done TKD 25 years ago, and have sparred with boxers during that time. I can say that I was able to hold my own. Sparred with MT and kick boxers too and still was able to hold my own. I stopped TKD because of the rules. I switched to MT because it complements my boxing. My Sabum, a former boxer himself, moves like a boxer during sparring.
Do itf taekwando not wt taekwando. itf is more similar to kickboxing in that it actually has punches and don't wear huge pads covering their torsos. Rather wt basically strips taekwando of everything to make it a fancy kicking based martial art.
You can already tell where this is gonna end even before it starts. The TKD guy looks like he's never sparred in his life. Didn't even bounce. The boxer already did even before the referee begins the fight.
TKD guy has sparred. It's just what he thought sparring was was like an egg and spoon race for 5-year-olds. Boxer was used to racing against sprinters who were grown men and were going going full tilt
What most people don't seem to understand is that boxing IS a martial art and the most basic and effective along with wrestling. Anyone proficient in those two will probably beat any TKD or any other Asian style martial artist.
Eu sou praticante de taekwondo e afirmo que sem dúvidas esse homem é Iniciante no taekwondo !!! se fosse na minha academia ele apanharia dos iniciantes tudo kkkk
lol, I was an amateur boxer (who competed in Nationals), and it was just like this every time that I spared against black belts of Taekwondo AND karate. :p
This is a very good representation of both of these martial arts. Taekwondo would probably win against a boxer, as long as they keep their distance and get a knockout kick, but if the boxer starts to close the distance between the two, it’s over for the taekwondo fighter. Boxing has the best punches, and taekwondo has the best kicks. But if you combine the two, you can get a really good fighter.
Muchos creen que el taekwondo no funciona, realmente si, el problema está en qué la competencia es muy diferente a la del boxeo u otro deporte de contacto. Me refiero a que el taekwondo busca el ganar puntos, lo digo por experiencia propia, ya que, entrene durante 6 años y todo el entrenamiento era en base a la competición y el ganar puntos dentro del combate y terminar la pelea con más puntaje que el adversario, no muchas veces se ven K.O en los combates amateurs, por lo que resulta ser más técnico a la hora de pelear, lo que obviamente contrasta con la explosividad que tiene el combate de manos que es de por sí mucho más cerca que en el taekwondo porque este otro es a distancia media o larga para la aplicación correcta de las patadas (que son lo único que se puede usar e un combate y no las manos para golpear). Esa es mi opinión.
i remeber first starting TKD, i liked it but i wanted to pursue more combative styles, so i used what i was taught for 8 years, and and dad helped to teach me to change my "sport" style, into more combative, by adding elbows and knees (like traditional TKD which was a fighting style) and soon i refined my technique to be more powerful and actually useful with the addition of Boxing.
my mom put me TKD to deal with bullies...got but up on a regular after years of training. My pops put me in boxing I was dropping foos in middle school after 6 months of training and a month of sparring 3 times a week. By JR year in high shcool I was able to walk through the barrio with no issues.
Problem with TKD is its too high kick orientated with a little to no guard and that is an open invitation to get KO'ed by a Boxer. Best way to fight a Boxer in stand up, only, is leg kicks because a Boxer cannot defend their legs and their legs are their foundation regarding movement, e.g. footwork etc, to get in position to land combinations from angles. You take a Boxers legs, then their punches will have no foundation and power. Unfortunately, low leg kicks are not taught in traditional TKD and they barely ever teach leg sweeps too. A Thai Boxer is far more equipped to fight a Boxer when it comes to traditional head to head martial art matches.
This. This is such an important point. People keep making erroneous conclusions like "Oh TKD guy hasn't done enough sparring" or "TKD hasn't trained enough". The dude is a black belt, he's wearing it in the video FFS. The problem isn't that he hasn't done enough TKD... it's that he's done _too much TKD_
TKD does have it usage. Got one of the best spinning kicks in all the arts. However, boxer knew to close the distance and the TKD didnt know what to do once he got in close. The great Chael P. Once said "I cant let you get close."
This kinda true as a whole that a trained boxer will usually beat a trained tai kwon do fighter. I think mostly because in tai kwon do the punching system is very bare and not used so much as well. And a heavy fast hook will shock the other stylest right off the bat
@@xasashi199 MMA just stands for MIXED MARTIAL ARTS in which is what he just described, but saying mma is the best is like saying "i train ufc" which just means ultimate fighting championship :/(sorry if this comes of rude)
In the 70's I was training at a famous TKD club in Montreal. I was a mixed fighter, kyokushin, judo, wrestling and boxing. After sparring with their brown belts, their famous instructor came over to me and told me there was no punching to the head. Full contact kicks to the head and body but no punches to the head. I said that without sparring with punches to the head, there was no natural defense developed plus a punch to the head was completely different to a punch to the body. In setup, delivery and effect. He disagreed and said a body punch was the same as a head punch. I stopped training there................
Far from an expert but to me the martial artists practice TKD , Karate , Kun Fu are not used to the chaos that ensue in a real fight . They are more used to a disciplined fight where opponents are respectful. They seem to not be ready for a street fight ( not an expert)
depends. Most TKD is based on sport and point systems. ever since its popularity and becoming an olympic sport its hard to find TKD thats more about actual sparring. WTF is the sport taekwondo. ITF is more about practicality. And Kyokushin Karate is a monster. Its a full contact martial art and they hit like a truck idk anything about kung fu
depends on the Karate, there are plenty of Karate styles where they go all out, just watch Karate combat, they have a very similar ruleset to MMA (with some limitations) and Juko. Also, Karate (again some styles of it) has had good showings in K1 and UFC as well.
@@carritohmc that's true but you're also talking about the professional level. The average Joe is most certainly going to suffer from the "fair fight" mindset that a lot of these schools teach.
your mistaken Taekwondo TRICKING with actual taekwondo the reality of this is that taekwondo is kick focused and the closer and faster you can close the distance taekwondo is a severe disadvantage Taekwondo modified for street fighting usually tends to be only direct kicks and a lot punching. instead of 540's and all that fancy "Demonstrational" kicks
So let’s put a taekwondo guy who obviously never competed on a serious level against a real fighter. Put Rick Rufus in there , you’ll see a much different outcome.
I like how people always make it a battle of the different disciplines. Usually, it comes down to one thing and it's how badass a person is. The discipline they're doing is secondary for the most part.
lol, I was an amateur boxer who would do the same thing to Taekwondo black belts. :p Of course, I knew a little karate and Taekwondo, myself...But still...I didn't need to use any of it with my boxing skills.
^ lol, how is it delusional when I practically ran right through these black belts who never had any type of boxing training? :p I wasn't even a "great" boxer, and it was that easy for me. :p But go ahead and send your Taekwondo and Karate fighters to Mayweather's gym, and let's see how they do with their kicks. :p I think that you are the one who is delusional. I was the same way as you when I was taking Karate and Taekwondo before I had my eyes opened to boxing at the age of 14. ;) Taekwondo may not be the same as it used to be, but they still don't know what to do when a good puncher gets close to them. ;)
@Fuji Lor ....I seriously doubt that they would have any chance against an experienced boxer unless the ITF TKD guy already had years of training in boxing, too. I've seen those guys, and they are as stiff as a board when it comes to fighting. You need to be loose when fighting, not stiff.
I love tkd because the kicks are powerful and fast. Then I went boxing to make striking complete. Boxing and taekwondo is pretty powerful. Now all I need to learn is the ground game and I will be the ultimate weapon.
I train in Kajukenpo, my first tournament as a yellow belt, I beat two higher ranking TKD students. After that, I learned not to come in head first against boxers 😂
