Product Review 30 - Redgrass Everlasting Wet Palette 

I've been using the smaller one since they came out, I think I paid a bit less with a preorder discount. I've had it wet the whole time so for like 4-5 months and there's no mold at all even though I've used just tap water. I have a limited space, so the smaller one is suitable. I'm extremely happy with the purchase and the 2 foams and 100 sheets of paper will last me most likely like 2 years. I've used 5 papers so far, since I always work on one project continuously so I don't need to mix a huge number of colours. The paints stay usable for days, so I can mix a colour and use it for several evenings. Only caveat for that is that if you put too much water in, it will get wicked into the paints and make them unusable and it's sometimes a bit challenging to know if you've put too much. Overall I think it's easily worth the investment, since it will last you years. I highly recommend it!

My only regret with mine is buying the small one instead of the big one. Even if I don't see any room to fit it anywhere in my hobby space, I would have cleared some space. The fact that I don't have to worry about anything to go wrong versus the homemade solution is totally worth the money to me. I've so little time to paint that I don't want to spend some fiddling with a palette that doesn't do its job perfectly. But I can see why some don't want to spend so much money on a palette, this is clearly a premium product made for a niche market.

2 questions for you, if you don't mind Vince: 1. How does this paper compare to parchment paper? I find parchment paper wrinkles up shortly after being put on the sponge and you have to take it off and flatten it out again. Does this paper do the same? 2. I find that parchment paper works perfectly for letting the water through at a good pace for a couple hours, but the paint does get watery (like a glaze) after a day of sitting there. Does this paper do that as well? Excellent review btw - I'll likely get one ;)

I use de-ionized water and l've had no mould in 2 years. Home- made sealable. No problems ever.

Thanks for this vid Vince. Have only been painting for a few week now, but with my OCD find that this is the perfect solution for me. Got the Studio XL, and with 3 wavy's everything is in one small space. No issues so far with odour or staining of sponge thingy. Absolute heaven.

Purchased. Have been generally happy with my own solution (big flat, low walls, cut foam and a stack of measured and guillotine cut paper).... buuttttttttt, I live in Australia and painting this summer has been a nightmare. I am having to refill the wet pallet daily and even multiple times a day during longer painting sessions. Better quality foam with a better fitting lid will go a long way to keeping my paint mixes happy, if it works out as I expect the time I save having to remix paint will be worth it alone. (seriously though, with the dry temps and heat atm even moderate retardant mediums like vallejo glaze medium aren't keeping the paint wet for very long)

Thanks for the review. I'm sticking with my current wet pallet, but great tip about adding the copper wire.

I loved mine. The biggest thing is that mine's been damp now for more than two months....it has grown no microbes. Unlike previous wet pallets where I'd have to dry it out and clean it almost daily to prevent growths. The thing is, I've used the other brand of wet pallets and all grew mold. This is the only one that doesn't. That alone is worth the money.

Vince, great video. Thanks for doing the reviews the way you do. Reminds me of the days of watching consumer reports and finding out that commercial that got you ready to buy isn't quite (or even close) to what their testing found. As for this product and your review I agree its a use/investment ratio more than a functionality decision.

love this thing. i double my sponge . quite a bit of room in it too. good tip on the copper

I have been using it for about two months I guess. I was part of the Kickstarter thing. I have had no mold issues yet. So I can back that fact. I think it could be deeper -- storing more water -- so it would have to be refilled less often.

I have the smaller one, which suits me fine. Been using it for some months now and no issue with smell or mould, even when left for several weeks.

Do you still use the redgrass paper today or did you settle on something better? I don't know if i'm doing something wrong and you're supposed to completely drown it when applying, but just putting the paper on the (to the brim) wet sponge and putting some vallejo model color on it, it doesn't take long to see it dry out, specially if you mix the color so it's not a big blob but a more thin layer. After good 30 minutes to an hour, the only way you can get the color back is by reviving it with water and mixing to get it back somewhat. Just checking if this is your experience as well.

I truly apperciate your honest and fair review this is why I trust your opinions and reviews

Just started using the small version, it’s really good 👍🏻

We pay a lot of money for plastic things already...what's one more right? Thanks for the review!

Been waiting for this one! I feel a bit more vindicated in backing the kickstarter :) I got the Studo XL one as well which honestly is maybe a bit too big for me, but it's working out well. I've had the same bit of paper on it for several weeks now (I don't paint as much as I'd like) and have only topped it up twice. And with the constant AC going here it gets pretty dry as well. The cost is definitely a hurdle; I opted for it because I saw it as an investment in a well-made tool that worked out of the box, no fuss.

They sell sponge replacements (they do now anyhow, not sure about 3 years ago), so someone could always buy a sponge and some sheets. But for the smaller size, it's almost as expensive as just buying the pallet, so I wouldn't recommend it for the LITE.

My Tupperware snaplock wet pallet keeps paint usable for atleast 4 days. That's the longest I've gone and actually gone straight for the same paint. Drop of antibacterial detergent in and 0 mould or bacterial problems. Baking paper might not be as good. It does the job though.

Do you find your still needing to dilute your paints or does enough water come up through the paper to make your paints thin enough?

according to the manufacturer's website the top lid acts as a second palette. so you can think of it as getting a 2 for 1 deal.

How does the Redgrass wet palette compare to the Masterson's you use in video 115?

Very nice review. Helped me decide to get one as well. A short question. Do you use the paper that comes with the palette or do you still use baking paper?

Have you tried washing the plastic box with really hot water? The Masterson's I have buckles and warps with the heat so was wondering how well the ABS on this one fares. I like using some heat when trying to clean off paint so just curious if you've tried this and noted any warping.

He says he needs the big one but look at all that unused space. The painter lite version is smaller but only about by a 1/3rd and it's half the cost. That's what I went with and I spread out several colors and mixes at once as he does and almost never run into space problems. It also fits my modest space for hobbies better. I do run into issues of space on occasion when I do a bigger project but I solved that by buying a second painter lite. The two smaller footprints still fit my modest space better than one big one would and when I don't need all of that real estate I don't need to have it out.

Because of your videos I have been using a wet pallet. Started with tupperware then masterson's. After this review I ordered. It is expensive but the quality looks great. Thanks so much

Would you recommend buying extra paper or would regular baking purpose be fine and still not mold/stink? Love the vids, Michael

I'm thinking about buying this wetpalette but I had a question. How do you clean the 2 foams ? Do you have to buy new ones after couple of uses ?

Excellent straight forward review. I have the smaller palette and wish I got the larger one. Might do that eventually but hey... I do want to mention that getting any type of alcohol based substance on the foam will destroy it. It shrivels up and is completely unusable if you get any alcohol on it. Just bringing it up.

thanks for the review, still useful in 2020, ordered smaller one for myself. Even though its pricey, i feel that its a good purchase, will see

At 20 quid I would have gone and grabbed one, but those price tags are far and beyond the products actual value. I'll stick to the Matersons for now and hope other more reasonably priced competition arrives

Just purchased one of these based on this video. When you said you add copper wire into the pallet, how much and in what way do you add it?

Hi Vince, been using this product for a few weeks and I've noticed fibres coming off the supplied paper into my paint. Is this something you've experienced using this?

Realise I'm a bit late to the party, but I'm just starting out with my painting and got this as my first palette after reading the recommendations. However one thing that I'm not entirely certain on, that I hear a lot of people have differing thoughts on, is whether or not it is required to dilute your paints while using a wet palette. Just curious how you go about that, do you mix a bit of water in with the paint once on the palette as if you were using a regular dry one, or do you simply let the water of the wet palette dilute it? Thanks :)

Why do people keep questioning the sponge? It looks like the wet chamoise you can find that’s used in cleaning cars. I’ve ordered one and will review when it arrives. So far no reviews have compared actual use vs other brands. I currently use Mastersons and find that my paints only last one session no matter how much I hydrate the foam. So we will see how this ‘Everlasting palette’ will hold up... Granted I will be going into this with a lot of skepticism... I would be truly blown away if this thing really does have an advantage over a cheap Mastersons palette.

Hey Vince, awesome review. Love your videos. I've got a smallish work area and my masterson wet palette fits pretty nicely in this area. Is the XL everlasting palette much larger than the masterson? Still not completely sold on the cost of the thing, but knowing how large the sizes are would help in making a choice, for sure.

I got the studio version too and i am glad i made the investment. My hobby time is time to relax, so 50 bucks is money well spend to save me the hassle i had with my old homemade one.

Thx Vince, I have been looking for a wet palette...the cost is an issue right now. Food for thought.

I've been using the smaller one for...gosh, since right after the kickstarter? And it's been really good - 'it does what it says on the box' is a strong descriptor. My only complaints after SO much painting, are that as the sponge has aged, it now dries out in extremely unpredictable ways, and once the bottom layer of paint dries, the functionality of the palette disappears. That's new to the last few months, and is bothersome. The second is that the batch of papers I'm working on, right now, disintegrate under blending. I mix a lot of paint on my palette, and the thing I loved about this was how long I was able to work with colors I'd been building through their highlights or shadows - but the current batch slowly comes apart, and tiny little fibers, almost like little hairs, start showing up on my minis. Maddening if I dont catch them right away, and its ruined some work. The inconsistency of the paper packs is a big bummer. I know they just redesigned, apparently, but as you mention, the cost being what it is, I can't imagine going in, again, even though I like the thing, and think its proven itself. It's just a lot of money.

Did someone try it with parchment paper? I’m pretty happy with my home made solution, but i never had a high quality wet palette. It’d not bother me to spend 35-50€ for a high quality product that will last a long time, but i don’t want to rely on specific paper because using my parchment paper is incredibly cheap and it’s avaiable everywhere. So i was wandering if it was cool enough to buy the palette but use the supermarket parchment paper

Funny, I'm in Austria and usually everything recommended is super expensive over here or hard to find without a significant amount of shipping, but this one was super cheap compared to others like the masterson. Example I just found a few minutes ago: The recommended Windsor & Newton brush cleaner you said costs around 8 bucks would be 27 for me.

I bought one of these, I still have yet to get used to the fact that it feels drier. Maybe i was just used to the masterson’s palette being too wet. I guess it just takes time to adjust.

I was only thinking of buying this yesterday. Guess I’ll be getting one then! Thanks

Thanks for this video...so has anyone figured out the right amount of water to put in here...I have not found the sweet spot yet, sometimes to dry , sometimes to wet frustrating

I have one I made myself, just need parchment paper and a bit of copper and things should be fine.

I use the palette for 3 months - the hydration paper is crap, it bleeds through - I see it on your palette was well or other who use red grass as well. I never experienced this using Rowny stay wet paper.

I literally was just trying to find this palette online - thanks Vince!

The sponge is horrendous. I've been using it for a year, trying to get used to it, but it really ruined my paint experience for that time. The consistency of the paint would go all over the place and it feels like this has to do with the water level. Too much and paint overflows with water, too little and it dries as if using a dry pallete. I was constantly adding new paint or water to the mix. Overall a horrible experience. I made the step back to cheap supermarket sponge and had an immidiate improvement.

NEVER use tap water but instead while refuelling your car, buy Deionised water or when at your local supermarket. As for mine I made mine on the cheap and it works fine.

RECOMMENDATION TO THOSE TURNED OFF BUY THE PRICE, YOU CAN JUST BUY THE ANTIBACTERIAL SPONGE OFF THEIR SITE FOR 9 DOLLARS

Got it, too. I can confirm everything that has been said here.

Right on Vince, good review. Advocating for people to use the tupperware/sponge to save money probably won't earn you any sponsorships, but at least your opinions can be trusted!

Thanks for the review. Im getting one :)

i only got 50 sheets with it... i feel like i got ripped off lol.....

That is a shame it's so expensive. I've been using the masterson one, but I keep having problems with the parchment paper drying so fast and my paints drying or it's too wet and the paints water down too much.

I currently have been using tupperware and a paper towel.

Beware of Redgrass! I had a v1 Studio XL for quite a while but just pulled it out and started using it about a month ago. There was a strong petroleum smell coming off it that lessened over time. However, within a month the seal or gasket they used in the lid started rotting/deteriorating, almost ‘melting’. I’ll note it appears they no longer use a gasket in newer versions? Anyway, I contacted their “customer service”. At first they tried to blame it on me cleaning it with chemical products. I’ve never used anything but water. Then I sent pics of the lid with rotting seal and the box it came in. He actually tried to claim that wasn’t a Redgrass Palette lid!? Avoid this company at all costs.

What is the difference betwhen this and the mastersons wet palette?

kool vid

Wait, hold up! “Two weeks, almost 100 hours of painting...”. Do you actually paint 7 hours a day? Somehow I assumed you had a hobby, not full time employment/retirement! Do you really paint 7hrs a day?

Vince, you spend more of my money than GWS... just sayin

Cool review, I'm happy with my little plastic box but this was nice to watch :)