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There's been a lot of conversation in the last few months about AI art and I've been thinking about what it means for us as artists. So I decided to make a video where I weigh up the threats of this technology but also where it could be used to improve our artistic process.
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@oilonpaper
@oilonpaper Год назад
Maybe it'll take time to come full circle on this, eventually we will. We are able to make perfect furniture and decor items by mass production, but what we now really appreciate are hand-crafted items. Photography + Photoshop never fully replaced painting and drawing. Prints are never as exciting as the original piece. The story of the artist is and will be what people connect to, and knowing about the individual who made the art will become more and more important. What would you connect to with A.I.?
@אליאלבן-דן
@אליאלבן-דן Год назад
Excellent points; and good word-smithing.
@Q45L822
@Q45L822 Год назад
I was going to write exactly that but you did so much better :-D Couldn’t agree more.
@kimerapolar
@kimerapolar Год назад
I'm still concerned. As a filmmaker I'm afraid about the future too with the irruption of Synthesia and the researching by Meta Ai videos 😥
@anthonyw2931
@anthonyw2931 Год назад
@@kimerapolar I wouldn't be too worried about making the movie, just the type of movie that is becomes commercially viable. AI has a long way to go before it's able to simulate emotions and poetic perspectives and insights. But people no longer want the movie that is entertaining but also tells meaningful and profound stories.
@carlkligerman1981
@carlkligerman1981 Год назад
Give me an original hardwood danish chair from the fifties over a replica from IKEA ANY day of the week. This is a tool, and a bad one, IMO
@HalkerVeil
@HalkerVeil Год назад
As far as careers go, companies don't care how we make art. They want it done fast, and done well. Traditional artists gain a selling feature out of it. People who buy art for the artist will seek out proof that it was made by hand. People who buy for the pretty picture, never buy from artists. They just download a picture and have it printed for cheap.
@randymulder9105
@randymulder9105 Год назад
Exactly. Do you want to buy a Wolf sweater or art that won an award at a University made by hand...that was judged by other professionals? Maybe AI art machines and robots will also make physical art too. Who knows? And yes. A robot paints now.
@HalkerVeil
@HalkerVeil Год назад
@@randymulder9105 They already do. Not unlike "artists" who put a paintbrush on a string and let their cat bat it around. Or the wind. Or a random number generator. Abstract art is far more a farce than AI. They should be careful what they wish for.
@jasonphan2001
@jasonphan2001 Год назад
People still make it out of hand but you wont know whether the artist took major inspiration or fully copied the ai art that was generated. So the creativity & composition is at question. All the artist has to do know is be good at recreating it, & that's what not what an artist is.
@HalkerVeil
@HalkerVeil Год назад
@@jasonphan2001 That's been true since photography existed. And they cried about the exact same thing back then. Yet nothing changed. What is actually happening is a new age of Luddites want something to cry about.
@khushvendrasingh6600
@khushvendrasingh6600 Год назад
"it feels like something what makes us special is lost" literally defines the whole thing
@MentalPistol
@MentalPistol Год назад
more liek people realize that they arent as special as they thought. People talk about the technology as if it is a person but they never mention the people that decided to make these tools. Fallacy of the western mind.
@HCforLife1
@HCforLife1 Год назад
Not really. At least in my opinion. People overreacting as always when new revolution is coming. We had few. The most important - industrial, digital and now AI. In every period people were scared. Industrial - when art started being accesible by the masses, not always defined by status - some were afraid of competition, poor artists were called names and ofthen ostracized. Digital era brought digital painting. The "cheating" at first. This somehow has been accepted after a while. The photobashing on the other hand or matte painting not by everyone for a long time. Now this all is normal and we are coming to another change. This time AI will assist artist. Yeah - assist. As I believe that artists will actually benefit more in the long run. The AI will be able generate the images, but people still will be needed to generate ideas. And as far as AI will be able to generate prompts itself - only humans will have a deep understanding and feeling of coherence or a broad picture.
@mathewklatil5455
@mathewklatil5455 Год назад
@@HCforLife1 False. There are already models that build prompts for you. There are models that can write, and that can do 3D. The models are always changing each week and eventually all creators of all media, be it videos, comics, books or even videogames will be replaced by company owned closed source AIs. We will lose our autonomy and the ability to have a voice. It will be one of the worst dystopias.
@giovannigio6217
@giovannigio6217 Год назад
I list just a bunch of things: writing, paiting, using paper, watch making, paper books etc and the list may continue. although all of these have modern replacements that are more precise, more practical, cheaper to make and to distribute , all the mentioned things are still alive for one reason: they feel different. they return a different feeling. writing on paper with a fountain pen is much more emotional than using word, looking what time it is in a high-end and handmade swiss time piece is not the same thing as looking at our phone, painting with our hands and mind is not the same thing as creating a picture in 2 minutes with a computer. although technology changes drastically our lives, the intention of creating artworks won't stop.
@Yepitsmedude
@Yepitsmedude Год назад
@@giovannigio6217 good point
@RedRocksies
@RedRocksies Год назад
Why did you ignore questionable ethics of how these "AI" are taught to do what they are doing? Did you just have nothing to say about it? Surely not... ? I think just how disruptive this technology will be shown once laws caught up to this. Currently this technology exists in legislative vacuum. These machine learning algorithms (or as you people call it "AI") were fed tens (if not hundreds?) of thousands of art pieces online which is important part of how they manage to do what they do. No permissions were asked, credit or compensation given for actual artists to use their hard work as teaching material. If these machine learning algorithms are let run rampant without any sort of laws, compensation to actual artists, you can bet your ass this is gonna be disruptive as all hell to all creative industries, especially painted digital art. If actual artists are not protected from this in any shape or form, why would anyone want to be artist and actually do something creative if it's gonna just be feed for the algorithms for other people to take advantage of? I think potential for decades of great, great harm and stagnation of digital art is upon us. I feel like at the moment if you are artist your best bet is doing something traditional, physical, so that you have original piece of artwork, something you make yourself... So, I think Jono, people like you are relatively safe from this. I do not see this technology taking away appreciation for traditional art, in fact I could see it making a huge comeback. For digital art, I see things getting way, way worse and grim before it gets any better.
@philorsum
@philorsum Год назад
You need to ask permission to do a study of something?
@RedRocksies
@RedRocksies Год назад
@@philorsum Ah yes, doing a study of someones work to improve your own skill == feeding someones work to a machine so that machine can imitate said work and do most if not all the work for you, undercutting said professional whose hard work you just used to train this machine. Nothing wrong here, case closed people, go home! 🤪 Are you totally honest with this comparison or just a troll? 🤦‍♂
@philorsum
@philorsum Год назад
@@RedRocksies how exactly do you think a.i works? Or are you just ignorant and angry?
@herlandercarvalho
@herlandercarvalho Год назад
​@@RedRocksies I think you are misunderstanding somethings here, and let me just begin with, I'm also an artist and tech enthusiast. I am fascinated by these AIs, and they can produce really stunning images. But I'm also critical of it. I think we can analyze things and put passions aside, while seeing both the positive and negative aspects. Ethically and morally speaking I think these AIs are indeed concerning, and they are able to, easily, and with little to no time, both learn and create, what takes humans years and decades to do. That is a concern, for sure. But... The AI doesn't rely on specific images from specific artwork to create. If you feed it the concept of "hand", "pencil drawing" and "oil painting", it will learn (MUCH BETTER AND FASTER than any human) the patterns that create those concepts. So if I just feed photographs of hands, and some landscapes in pencil or oil painting (without hands), it will be able to output a hand in oil painting, if I ask it to. It's... a though problem, and blurs the concepts of art, artist and tool.
@gondoravalon7540
@gondoravalon7540 Год назад
@@RedRocksies Obtuse much?
@aelion7761
@aelion7761 Год назад
It's gonna effect the art industry, in a big way, especially for freelance artists, the number of art commission's has already dropped quite a lot because of ai art(for digital). But at the same time it could also be used to generate ideas and references for artists. Hmm, I feel like it will definitely have a bad impact for most artists, but it's inevitable :/. Oh and meh, so many ai artists are popping up everywhere, I feel kinda bad for artists. :/
@bhaveshartsy7805
@bhaveshartsy7805 Год назад
for freelance works, yes when the supply is surplus and even anyone can do it... the value of the product will become less. For the professional artists, It will be a tool because they have to do a lot of iterations and have to do it in less time. can be crowded space. job roles will change, and yes less pay will be the issue.
@Wandrative
@Wandrative Год назад
If you outsource your visual creativity for AI to give you ‘reference’, then you dont even deserve to be an artist. The genius of novel design and conscious determination of shape is gone.
@georgemartin4354
@georgemartin4354 Год назад
@@Wandrative 2006: If you outsource your visual creativity for adobe Photoshop to give you ‘reference’, then you don't even deserve to be an artist. The genius of novel design and conscious determination of shape is gone. ROFL......
@Wandrative
@Wandrative Год назад
@@georgemartin4354 Oh so looks like you aren't even an artist who and was just pro AI afterall. Just masquerading as one to gaslight artists. Of course, photoshop was never art nor anything masterly. There is good photoshop and bad photoshop thats it. And AI is a even lower form of that that requires even less visual intelligence as it is automatic photoshopping. Nothing really changed from the sentiment of 2006 that you are trying to portray.
@platoschauvet
@platoschauvet Год назад
i find it pretty existentially horrifying as someone who not only gets so much of the meaning in my life from not really even creating artwork but learning to create artwork and the process of learning and dedicating my life and passion to learning how to draw and create, but also as someone who thinks the individual creation of art and learning the process of creating art is so important to humanity as a whole, and it does worry me that if the arts are even less viable as careers, we will enter a real dark age wrt art and art knowledge being collectively lost when it's less valued and goes unlearned by future generations. But, that said, it's also interesting to think about and see from the perspective of it being the creation of a collective consciousness of humanity, the creator being humanity as a whole instead of just one individual, and that's scary because no one can compete with that, but in a way it's a reflection, at least potentially, a reflection of humanity as a whole as a creator.
@shredd5705
@shredd5705 Год назад
I see nothing good coming out of this AI. It will be the death of human visual culture that flourished for thousands of years. AI is dangerous, equal or worse threat to humanity as nuclear weapons. This is just early warning sign. Wait until they put it into autonomous military robots. Terrorist states like Russia will use it for war of conquest and killing civilians
@malo-magic-blue
@malo-magic-blue Год назад
I understand you. Just keep learning and enjoying your progress in creating your artwork. People will always love real human art because of the soul in it. Don´t worry, just put your heart and soul in your art and you´re so much better than any computer generated work which in my opinion is not art at all, because the "soul" is missing. Best wishes to you Laura!💙
@itch433
@itch433 Год назад
Ikr. It's an incredibly life-saving feeling that you can always forget about all your stress and just sit down to learn something new about art and it will never be a waste of time. Not sure if it's the case now - whenever I'm considering learning anything today (not even art related), I immediately think about all the possibilities of the skill being automated in a matter of months. I've been welcoming all kinds of shortcuts until now - love digital art, 3d renders, painting over 3d geometry, even photobashing still feels like a form of drawing to me, because all of it still takes intention and lets you express your OWN thoughts correctly. Typing a prompt to get a random decent picture complete with composition and details? Definitely sounds more like commissioning a robot than producing something of my own. Thing is - even if they retrained all the models without using copyrighted artworks (which is impossible with SD being open-source, but just to entertain the idea), it would still make for a powerful tool that you'd have to use in your workflow to stay competitive, and It's depressing, because it really doesn't seem like an enjoyable tool to me.
@alexmehler6765
@alexmehler6765 Год назад
i just wrote the same thing , but your english is better lol .. humanity will not recover easily from this
@georgemartin4354
@georgemartin4354 Год назад
ugh, that's so pretentious. I say embrace it. Let humans create art and let AI create art. If you really love creating, you won't care if AI does it as well. Art is about expressing yourself, not being in competition, or seeking validation from strangers or making tons of money. People need to re learn that. AI will set things right again.
@arrashishiv1591
@arrashishiv1591 Год назад
I believe that AI "art" may as well be one of the biggest cultural catastrophe we ever suffered as humans. I think that majority of people still see it as amusing toy/great tool and don't realise what consequences we will suffer in years/decades to come.
@shredd5705
@shredd5705 Год назад
Exactly. It will destroy human visual culture and artistry that flourished for thousands of years. Kids don't want to learn to draw anymore. They get discouraged by AI in their phone, before they turn 10. And even if they don't, by they are 18, their parents have talked them out of silly dreams. Museums will be dead, because there will be nothing new to put into museums. There will be no new Rembrandts or Da Vincis. Nobody bothers to learn, kids learn that art is something that comes out when you press a button. Pretty images will lose their value by overexposure, become something like toilet paper. Nobody wants to get into art education either, why become a high school art teacher, when kids just whip out their phones and laugh at the teacher "who can't even beat AI". No teachers, no students, no art. The people who created this AI should be jailed... but instead they get filthy rich.
@MrXandervm
@MrXandervm Год назад
But at the same time, art will become more accessible for regular joes. I'm not that great at drawing, but i'm a programmer. If i want to make a game, i need art assets. For the characters, backgrounds, etc. The only way i can get that is: 1. Make it myself, which will take hours if i want it to look shit, and years of practice if i want to make decent art. 2. Pay for an artist to do it, which will also take some time, costs money and if i don't like the art its going to take more time and money. 3. Pay for premade assets and tilesets, which costs money and is generic. But with AI art, it costs nothing and is done in no time. So this will open up ways for game developers and others to use art and make good looking games easier. I'm very excited for the future
@billcipher9344
@billcipher9344 Год назад
Jeezus the overreaction is hilarious.
@georgemartin4354
@georgemartin4354 Год назад
Why? because it wont make you rich and famous? For people that really love drawing and painting (and don't do it for fame, attention or money), its not going to matter. Let AI be AI. The truth is, its always been hard to make money doing art.
@NimroMeiMei
@NimroMeiMei Год назад
@@MrXandervm I think there will come a time when people won't come to you to make a game. And you will have a lot of competitors
@PalliserArt
@PalliserArt Год назад
If I was to ever use AI art. It would be to create an image I have in my mind to then use as reference to actually draw or paint it by hand and then delete the AI work it created. Could be useful that way. But to use AI and print the work and flog it as original work is unholy haha
@Wandrative
@Wandrative Год назад
Im not sure why you would need that reference in the first place if it is in your head. Go pure, :)
@kalilavalezina
@kalilavalezina Год назад
I’ve dabbled with MidJourney. It was fun and interesting but ultimately quite hollow. Part of the beauty of art is the human handmade aspect. People will always love and respect the handmade because it is imbued with meaning and purpose just for existing. AI art doesn’t concern me especially. I see it as a tool. What I find interesting is the intellectual property aspect of it. Essentially it is a collaboration between you, the person typing in commands; everyone who ever shared an image online and the software company, so who owns the copyright? Very interesting times!
@rafisarhan2336
@rafisarhan2336 Год назад
I remember reading a book predicting the future of AI and the author thought when everything becomes automated the only thing the humans can do would be creative work but it looks like thats the very first thing that we are going to lose.
@-Pridebycreatons-
@-Pridebycreatons- Год назад
Yes, same... It took me by surprise. Obviously the AI art isn't perfect because it has lots of errors such as wonky arm, hands and odd strand of hair, etc. It also struggle with groups.
@rafisarhan2336
@rafisarhan2336 Год назад
@@-Pridebycreatons- look for more AI art, Im telling you some of them are so well made. Check ArtStaion AI arts.
@-Pridebycreatons-
@-Pridebycreatons- Год назад
@@rafisarhan2336 i still stand by what I said. ai struggle with groups. Also I have to log in to search arts on that website.
@honestjoe7940
@honestjoe7940 Год назад
Oh you're going to loose allot more than that!
@Wandrative
@Wandrative Год назад
But its not the 'first thing'. Its the last thing that they were able to to. AI can do everything else. The problem is that society protected everyone else, but is quick to destroy art like its nothing right when the technology loosely emulates it.
@carolinependleton8445
@carolinependleton8445 Год назад
Your art work is amazing and I am sure there will always be a need for it.I remember when the kindle became very popular,but it appears people are still buying more books than ever.I think there is nothing better than an original hand drawn or painted piece of artwork,especially for collectors.
@youtubedeletedmyaccountlma2263
Normal people don’t care. We don’t know how to differentiate. I don’t know who is this professional artist.
@roger4845
@roger4845 Год назад
@@youtubedeletedmyaccountlma2263 nobody asked
@freshestinclass763
@freshestinclass763 Год назад
Yea.... it's like a built in apocalyptic scenario... that leaves the thought that maybe this book will never Be physically seen again... cotdamn marketers!!!
@akaartgenerator
@akaartgenerator Год назад
Seeing how good this thing is, people will eventually starts to advertise their job as an artist with "100% human-made skill and not software/Al generated work"
@georgemartin4354
@georgemartin4354 Год назад
And they'll get hired saying that? I hate to burst your bubble friend, but everything in the corporate world is about saving time and money. Why pay some human artist that takes 3 months when AI can do it in 10 seconds. Its pointless.
@waveart6058
@waveart6058 Год назад
I think we're focusing on the wrong aspect of the whole situation, we see how beautiful an artwork made by AI is and immediately compare it to our own artwork feeling sad and depressed. The real point is not the result of the artistic process but why we do art. For me art is not the outcome of my hours-upon-hours process of creating something new, but the process itself, it's what I feel while painting, the sensations I get out of it, the satisfaction and the excitement that nothing else can give me. I don't care if a computer can create something more beautiful than mine, it's the journey that is important, not the end of it.
@herlandercarvalho
@herlandercarvalho Год назад
I 100% agree with you, I made the exact same points yesterday on a very loooong post in Reddit. But the problem becomes, artists leave from their work, and for some it is already a struggle. AIs are facilitating in an absurd quick and vast way, the emergence of as many artists as there are humans. That will have a tremendous impact in the art world and will affect the ability of artists that took years of learning and practice to be able to be rewarded enough to use art as a means to make a living. Without the ability to make a living out of art, human artists will slowly fade away. And that's the scary part.
@LarsRichterMedia
@LarsRichterMedia Год назад
Here is how I would disagree with what you wrote: The commercial clients pay for the outcome, not the journey. The question around whether AI can produce art or not is actually a pretty irrelevant distraction from the real problems. Everyone can only decide for themselves what is art and it has no inherent implications for anybody beyond that. Being paid less or not being hired at all anymore is a real existential problem for people. Also, the question around data harvesting is important. We are still in a brutally capitalist system and seemingly on our way towards (or maybe we've already reached the shores of) a kind of techno-feudalist society where a few private entities or rogue regimes (AI haves) rule not only over pretty much all the physical resources (e.g. processing power) but also digital resources (data) while the masses of peasants (AI not haves) have to be either obedient serfs or face outright obsolesence. I don't disagree with what you wrote but I hope most people see through the "is it art or not" distraction that's spreading like a virus. What is art is not existential but there's more and more existential questions right now forcing themselves onto our plate mostly because of our own ignorance. A lot of similar problems in many countries and of course globally and AI seems to be truly born in the middle of it, as we speak, while it is unclear that in total it will be used for positive impact or not.
@waveart6058
@waveart6058 Год назад
@@LarsRichterMedia You're absolutely right, and I apologize for not thinking about artists that live with their craft. I make art just because I need to create, that's why I see the whole situation in a different light.
@Wandrative
@Wandrative Год назад
I understand that this part of it is significant, but I think art has to be more about the existence of beauty and form itself. And a talented artist is the one who has the capacity to understand and bring it into physical existence. Thus, the end outcome is what I put much more significance on. I do it to beautify the world. Sure, I get a lot of joy and pleasure from the process… but that sounds like art has been reduced to just a tool for a hedonistic life value. What difference is that compared to a druggie who enjoys being high all day? Why painstakingly perfectionise and work yourself to master art when you can have other easily accessible modes of acquiring pleasure? So I think the finished art is important. As for AI, it does not understand or have any spacial intelligence, aesthetic understanding, or a knowledge of beauty. It just imports a 2d grid of images and transcribes it as a math equation. It generates a new equation based on those and the prompts, which is transcribed back to a 2d image on screen. How does that equate to the genius of a visually intelligent mind?
@merfyn4838
@merfyn4838 Год назад
Well if you draw as pure hobby yes just dont dare ever make any profit as an artist. That job is dead. Even before this being an Artist was a questionable job now its stupid.
@camaslindbeck1985
@camaslindbeck1985 Год назад
It’s scary, but it’s also because of its ease. Maybe if we thought of this as a humanistic collective artistic achievement, sort of a sum total of human creativity. After all, if we created AI, then it reflects us in a way and thus the images created by AI are also a reflection, although distant, of humanity and our creative visual history.
@DrawWithBrian
@DrawWithBrian Год назад
I think of it as an opportunity. If more people use AI, it will lower its value, therefore people will look for authentic artworks made by human
@cathychats
@cathychats Год назад
Honestly I think art in general will become worthless and meaningless
@WTFBUTWHY
@WTFBUTWHY 9 месяцев назад
No it wont. Just like MOST people shop at Walmart and Amazon instead of supporting the more expensive small business. Not enough people will care for it to actually be a GOOD THING. But I do appreciate the glass half full attitude.
@jaxonfordham6862
@jaxonfordham6862 2 года назад
I think there will ALWAYS be a place for hand drawn work. We all want to connect to one another. Personal, intimate work is valuable to us as species who relies on how we emotionally connect with one another.
@michaelpeters364
@michaelpeters364 Год назад
Sadly, many can't recognize the difference... some AI generated work is highly evocative... people meet emotional art half-way and artists often aim at leaving space for the viewer to bring their own subjectivity to it... and that's what AI does -- it's empty of true emotion, but suggests enough for the viewer to fill it in... and if not labelled "AI", could fool many.
@robdog114
@robdog114 Год назад
There will be a place for traditional mediums. Oil, charcoal, clay, etc. AI art is still digital art. And to many, digital art doesn't not have the same impact as oil on canvas or an actual sculpture.
@topenterclips
@topenterclips Год назад
@@zuki9537 to disrespect a master like Picasso is to disrespect all masters before or after him. You cannot nor can anyone ever create a Picasso ever again since his death. Only Picasso can tell you what Picasso would paint next. If you think matching aesthetic is the same matching a person you’re sorely mistaken. On the surface you may see persons as how they fall into groups but this simply isn’t realistic! Only one man ever knows how one man will react! And that is the man himself! You may use statistics but you’ll find that statistics are based on intrinsic bias! This level of bias is a hard concept to grasp at first but you will. AI art is a nice tool but a horrible master! If you truly want to learn how to create a work of art beyond thinking art is just built on it’s themes then go study the masters once more. See how they placed their values and led your eyes. Ai art mimics that! Ai didn’t create the rules it follows it. Nothing can replace the men and women who pushed us forward.
@freds6187
@freds6187 Год назад
@@michaelpeters364 Its the history of the painter and how it was made that makes it gripping, also a required human connection. Though don't let pride take away potential opportunities with AI and art especially.
@merfyn4838
@merfyn4838 Год назад
It will have a place but you wont be able to live as an artist anymore thats for sure. It will be a rare side gimmik now.
@savannahb435
@savannahb435 Год назад
I'm just getting started in my career. Getting into galleries and shows, selling work and gaining exposure is already super competitive. AI being thrown into the mix is worrisome. I have to remind myself of the importance of my work. I'm a realist/ hyperrealist with some elements of surrealism that are often inspired by the symbols I see in my dreams. An AI cannot replicate the connection I have with the subject of my works, nor can it replicate what details I fixate on based on my perception of a real subject.
@Blacklipstikkz
@Blacklipstikkz Год назад
AI can do many thing but it can't express your deepest thoughts even you yourself will struggle with expressing them, your feelings is what makes it your art and you are what makes it unique art made by AI is just a print btw good luck with your career
@staceykimbell9324
@staceykimbell9324 Год назад
Hyperrealists who paint over projected photographs and believe that the camera can see more than the human are the only ones who should be worried
@moonum4567
@moonum4567 Год назад
AI will eventually reach our level of competence. You need to prepare for the inevitable
@tinag7506
@tinag7506 Год назад
I think there should be some laws or regulations set in place to ban AI in certain fields so that they don't replace people. They should just be used as tools in work that requires human intervention.
@suburbanhomestead
@suburbanhomestead Год назад
@@tinag7506 while I share your sentiment, realistically I see no reason for these protectionist laws to come into fruition. Artist hold no lobby power over corporations, and the real problem will be comercial art. The “art market” will not be affected much because it is more about commodities than art. By making AI art cheap to produce, it will never have the same value in the market (NFTs is something different because those aren’t even about the art). Limited supply and branding is what makes the art market a desirable investment. That is not going to change because the “images” themselves don’t matter. Ultimately this revolution will cause people to reevaluate the “value” of a human being, since this will eventually flood into most carriers. Will we finally see humans for their intrinsic value, or will we continue to rank people on their productive and persuasive powers?
@davidmenke7552
@davidmenke7552 Год назад
I dunno Jono, I don't think YOU have much to worry about. Because you already have a name associated with incredible drawings. People will always want your drawings, whether they be originals or prints. You are known all over the world. Its the countless other "unknown" artists that are going to suffer most.
@errorunknown5701
@errorunknown5701 Год назад
They might as well stop making art then! If showing someone art that is 'better' than theirs is enough for them to lose motivation then their conviction was never grounded in any meaningful way. *Real* artists will continue to work hard, continue to hone their craft, and continue to get better. An A.I can only do so well as the average artist, in other words, it cannot beat *good* artists, and it will *always* beat 'bad' artists. Having used some of these programs extensively over the past week, this has only inspired me to get better faster. I've found it's become easier to find motivation to hone my skills, to learn how proper anatomy works, how precise physics affect cloth and hair. Because the A.I can't do it. The A.I is bad at it, because the vast majority of artists are bad at it. So, all I need to do is 'git gud'. If someone was going to pay me money for my work, they'd be paying for *me* to make it, not because I'm the best at what I do, but because they want *me*. If someone was looking for actual talent and skillful drawings, they'd look for the best artists around and submit a commission. In other words, I was never going to be chosen in the first place if that was what they're looking for. Anyways, tl;dr: Good Artists will never be out of a job, but bad artists always will be, they're just shifting the blame from their circumstances to the next hottest thing.
@davidmenke7552
@davidmenke7552 Год назад
@@errorunknown5701 I'm kinda not sure what you're saying even though your comment is pretty long. No one is suggesting good artists can't or won't improve/get better and so forth (or that no-so-great artists can't become amazing with lots of practice). The issue is the danger of the masses desiring AI art because its cheaper and faster to acquire. We as artists may look at AI art and see crap and inauthenticity and the loss of the artist's touch- but I think you're overestimating the number of people that value what we value (by "we" I mean real/good artists). There are loads of people who just want something that looks cool, is cheap and they could not care less where it comes from (and what looks cool to a good artist and to a random person on the street may be two very different things). People think good art is blowing air through a straw and watching the paint make neat swirly patterns on paper. Or, have you seen how many people put dentist office art in their freaking homes??? It's disgusting the lack of taste or appreciation masses of people have. I think you make other good points about your own philosophy/attitudes as an artist, but it kinda feels like you were responding to a completely different video than the one Jono posted.
@Betonoszlop
@Betonoszlop Год назад
Sad future: AI can replace you, no matter what are you working, or doing
@hosamanimanjunatha6543
@hosamanimanjunatha6543 2 года назад
Technology are keep changing....but the traditional things never gone change forever from a artist like you......big fan🙏🙏 keep going 🥰🥰🥰
@TheGirlgoyle
@TheGirlgoyle Год назад
as an artist i can see the point here.. i feel it too.. but also.. there will always be a call for traditional artists.. i mean... as much as there always has been anyway.. people dont appreciate AI as much as traditional now... because it is so easy.. but at the same time it allows everyone to be able to create something they have in their head.. with skills or no skills.. but also it can be spotted from miles away now.. most can tell the diff between them.. i really think its not a big deal really.. its just another medium.. ive been a traditional artist since i was 2.. (im 51 now) and my hands are failing me (arthritis and tremors).. AI keeps me entertained and feeling creative in a way.. and can also be challenging ... altho it doesnt take a lifetime of honing our craft.. but art.. is art.. people appreciate the effort if they are true art lovers.. i dont think we have anything to worry about
@MrEshah
@MrEshah Год назад
Through out the history of production basicly, mass production has almost always only increased the appreciation of craftsmanship and artesinal production. Where mass production is seen as an avenue of access to most and hand crafted desired by those looking for superior quality and standards. It can certainly broaden the audience for artists as an entry point to the world, and lead people, that wouldn't have been in the market otherwise, to new discoveries.
@DrBrunoRecipes
@DrBrunoRecipes 2 года назад
Excellent 👌🏻 Greetings from Scotland 😊 Have a great day everyone 🌻
@BryonCam
@BryonCam 2 года назад
Hope you have a nice day too Dr. Bruno
@nnn7886
@nnn7886 Год назад
Its crazy how they’re sorta.. neglecting (whats the word i need here) art made by well, humans and relying on Tech and AI. But anyway Jono i love your art. Could you please do a video on your reference planning?
@shredd5705
@shredd5705 Год назад
People will still want to watch you draw in RU-vid. And buy your original traditional works. You have a big online following, and secure career. But what will this do to illustrators who don't have successful RU-vid channels? Or talented artists who are in their late teens, thinking what career to pursue. This AI should have been banned by law, but now it's too late. Nobody asked for it. Artists who are positive about it, seem to dismiss an approaching meteor. It's only going to get better, and eventually spread into 3D, layouts, everything
@Dragonkill-music
@Dragonkill-music Год назад
I love the AI art, but it is too perfect now, check MJ version 4... I think that AI art has something wrong, it's not like photographic machines o chess computers, it's something like it has stolen the whole art of the world and given it away for free to anyone to call himself an artist. it's like you can write a whole masterpiece novel just by writing the title, it's something perverse, and it has fed with millions of artworks without the artist's permission, I think that it will be made illegal soon and those services banned and taken down. Remember Napster story...
@bluetrilobite
@bluetrilobite Год назад
Imagine being dumb enough to take on life crippling debt to study art knowing full well that your chances at any job other than starbucks barista is near null, and then this comes out.
@johnjones928
@johnjones928 Год назад
I don't think traditional art will be effected that much because people will always appreciate the work, skill and talent that's involved. That includes art done using tablets and such as well. AI will have the biggest impact in commercial and graphic design studios and art departments, things like greeting cards, product packaging, magazine and novel illustrations, mural graphics and all other forms that used to require actual PEOPLE and time will be replaced by the immediate results AI makes possible. One person can literally do the work of dozens in fractions of time.
@moskito80
@moskito80 Год назад
Yeah but that is practicly all the jobs, who already were insanely hard to find and get as an artist. Great that the best 10% of artist will survive, but what about the rest.
@johnjones928
@johnjones928 Год назад
@@moskito80 That's the danger of AI that most of the video content about the subject misses.
@minixlemonade2335
@minixlemonade2335 Год назад
@@moskito80 The best 10% is all that survives anyway. That has always been the case. And OP over estimates AI art's impact in industry. If the general populace found out their favorite art was made by AI, I doubt they would buy it. People despise AI art.
@moskito80
@moskito80 Год назад
@@minixlemonade2335 people are not interested in art, we all know the famous painters from centuries ago, maybe we know some from the present, like a Banksy or something but none of us are interested in that, we dont have paintings of them on the wall, we dont buy there stuff. Most of us are interested in illustrations from games, movies, comics, that kind of stuff. And a lot of us dont even know who the illustrator is of our favorite movie poster, or that multiple artists worked on that amazing cover illustration of your fav game. We just dont care, we know some names like kim jung gi (may hé rest in peace) or a manga illustrators (who also work in teams) because they are hype for the moment. Most of the time its only us artists that tend to know more of the other artists, and yeah i will buy a piece of art from my fav artist because of the artist, but the rest of the consumers dont think like that, and why should they. I do think, in time ai will grab most of the work, and only leave some for the best of the best. And if that is fare, i dont know, i guess things will always change
@suburbanhomestead
@suburbanhomestead Год назад
Ultimately are we not glorified punch cards anyways?
@SD-mw1hz
@SD-mw1hz Год назад
When the power goes out and the batteries die we will still have humans imagination and abilities with a pencil and paper, these items have been around for 1000's of years. Your vision will always be needed and stand the test of time. We all appreciate hand crafted, artists visions of the world. I can buy a printed card but a heart felt handmade card is a treasure.
@deadmanslastwish
@deadmanslastwish Год назад
The thing is Ai art is a big melting pot for existing styles. But it kills the future of art since there will be little to no incentive for new artist to put in the effort and develop their own styles.
@karu2995
@karu2995 Год назад
Two things can be true: I feel for the artist because it impacts their way of life, but essentially AI is doing the same thing MOST artist do. Just more efficiently. Very FEW artist create and draw without having looked at any other artist work for inspiration at some point. AI is doing the same thing just faster. For example, I'm a software engineer and AI is coming into this space as well. No one is going to BAN AI from coming into this space and trying to take it over. It's my responsibility to continue to increase my value as technology advances. Artist are in the same situation, but instead they are choosing to go the route of blaming the technology, which is disappointing
@I-ONLY-BUILD-MECHS-AND-DUSTERS
A camera can copy a movie from a theater "faster" than a human can produce it. It's a bad argument to use because it's still theft. That the data is cleverly hidden in neural network weights rather than right out in the open is irrelevant. I can encrypt a movie to the point where you can't retrieve the movie anymore, and only with a password or "prompt" could you decode my blob of data and get the full movie out. Still theft, no matter how cleverly the data is hidden. I agree AI art is inevitable, but they should at least pay people to train the models, not just scrape the internet for free. And we all know where AI art would be right now without that mass theft.
@liambeme
@liambeme Год назад
I have had these similar thoughts of late. Maybe it will be a little like digital art, personally I have found that people are less, caring, for lack of a better word when I show them a painting on a laptop as opposed to a painting or drawing I've done. Maybe because when we spend hours composing, painting, putting our energy into a piece it comes alive and its own life, do we feel that, does it resonate more? do we unconsciously sense the time and effort and passion?
@heavenseek
@heavenseek Год назад
You're right. It does resonate much more when it's a tangible, 100% human work
@RiverReeves23
@RiverReeves23 Год назад
Very well put. It is both exciting and terrifying at the same time. It is however just a technology. Perhaps the paint brush was as disruptive upon it's creation and all artists that were using mediums that came before were forced to learn how to paint but that is life. Money will flow from painting in to coding but also it will change the art world for the better as it may enabe young artists to dream big and not be constrained by a limited visual space, inside their mind's eye.
@BRAVEN32m12
@BRAVEN32m12 Год назад
My frend we are real and ai can't overcome true artists
@AkiyamaKatsuko
@AkiyamaKatsuko Год назад
Don't give up, AI will never be able to truly emulate human creativity. No matter how many references it tries to use.
@georgemartin4354
@georgemartin4354 Год назад
But its faster. Why would a company wait 3 months for a design when they can have it in 10 seconds. THATS the problem. All they care about is saving time and money.
@faafafineartist
@faafafineartist Год назад
As scary as this is, the consumer is also going to transform and YOU (the artist) will be the commodity. Some will buy any Art for $2 a pop, but YOU (your art) will become even higher in value because you are the prominence, your story.
@-Pridebycreatons-
@-Pridebycreatons- Год назад
@@brokenmember1658 the AI art can't create everything. Also, it does groups of people really badly.
@sdjslkdjlsskldjslkdjsl8262
@sdjslkdjlsskldjslkdjsl8262 Год назад
"I heckin LOVE SCIENCE! I'm not like those gross conservatives, I accept all forms of progress! Haha robots will steal your jobs soon you gross rust belt manual laborers, should have learned to code xp XD Wait AI does art now? NOOO NOO I DON'T LIKE THIS KIND OF PROGRESS! NOT LIKE THIS! ACK--"
@anthonyharris483
@anthonyharris483 Год назад
AI can never replace real human made art.
@WTFBUTWHY
@WTFBUTWHY 9 месяцев назад
How? that's what it does. It replicates real human art lol.
@chips.3927
@chips.3927 Год назад
Me personally, I'd prefer hand-crafted and human-made objects/products for the current state of technology. You guys are definitely appreciated, and once the time of AI comes, just remember their understanding of arts also originate from the complexity of human's arts
@renacimientodelsol5620
@renacimientodelsol5620 Год назад
I swear with my hand by my heart that I will NEVER buy something that is AI generated. I make art by painting with watercolors, acrylics, and computer graphics that I work on for months. I already tried one of those AI apps and typed what I wanted to see what it would do and I felt absolutely sad and empty with the results. Yes it was beautiful. But, there was no soul, no heart, no life in it. It’s DEAD trash. Don’t call it ART please.
@tammyhernandez3179
@tammyhernandez3179 Год назад
I love the process of making art old school,not computer art.At age 56 I do my art for myself and not for money.This is very freeing,for its in my sole to create an this makes my happy.AI should be its own type of art category.Your amazing and inspiring for all us human artists.🥰
@georgemartin4354
@georgemartin4354 Год назад
Finally! A comment that makes sense. We have to embrace it. The act creativity comes from within. AI can't take that away from real artists, they MUST create, its in their DNA.
@stefangobert8448
@stefangobert8448 Год назад
I don't think the analogy to photography holds up though. With a camera, there's still a photographer making all the decisions. The composition is determined by a human, at the end of the day. With the AIs, machines are taking over that decision making process. AI is still 'just a tool', but it isn't intended to be that for ever. It's intended as a replacement. Do you think big studios are really going to continue paying for entire teams of concept artists, when the same work can be done by a single computer running some AI. In short: I don't share the optimism of those saying AI is a new medium or tool that will enrich the art-making proces.
@dplj4428
@dplj4428 Год назад
3:30 new more fantastic… mixed media has just expanded. Reminds me of famous traditional movie actors who embraced doing voices for animation. Adapt, adopt, and/or redefine inside our headsets „What is my art to me?“ At least inside my own head.
@schlafenKind
@schlafenKind Год назад
I think AI art is beautiful because it's so random expect the shapes and colors but I would prefer a real artist why? because he is not doing random things and AI can't create sth entirely new out off nothing it is not creative and it cant write a good story so when you can give your artwork some complex story shit you know you are a 100% better than AI
@lenatomas9266
@lenatomas9266 Год назад
I prefer Art work from a human...AI can't do what a human can do. We have a perfect imperfection that is unique to each individual which is a beauty that can't be replicated.🤗😉 Continue creating your art, Jono!
@hereliestales
@hereliestales Год назад
Great video. I've been seeing this discussion more and more with people advocating for AI art and it's scary. I think it's right to use the word "cheated" because that's what a lot of these programs or systems do. They cheat in place of real human participation. With the computer beating a chess grandmaster, hacks for a game or AI for art. You remove the humanity, the countless hours of sculpting, drawing. It's an actual problem.
@motulifelikefigures1987
@motulifelikefigures1987 Год назад
im so sick of this world. everything has to be ready in seconds and done with no effort. its not about art anymore its about getting attention with no skills and no talent. i thought the peak of the narcissistic age has reached but it's just starting! when i see accounts on insta with created AI art it makes me sick how people benefit from stolen art and call themselves artists, gain followers more than real artists and get all the credit for copyrighted stuff! All is fake all is unreal, all is artificial. please give me a timemachine i wanna go back!!!! desperately!
@toututu2993
@toututu2993 Год назад
Calling these cheap trash ai art is an insult to whole creation. Please do not feed it. By the way art contest is a joke. People love ai art because is ai, they know nothing about art because they never do them nor hire artist to even know what it takes to make good art which ai done it all wrong to these days. AI art is best at making abstract art but horrible in everything else
@CitrusCircle
@CitrusCircle Год назад
Just for clarification the A.I is not copy pasting anything at all, true machine learning understands the idea or the concept of a particular subject and reapplying it.
@josephpole6922
@josephpole6922 Год назад
If AI is producing beautiful art, then what is the problem?…the fact that you, as an artist are out of pocket? Rather vulgar
@susanclark6987
@susanclark6987 Год назад
Oh it's horrifying... your work is wonderful .. I feel so sorry for young young kids who are just realizing they have some talent.. and they probably are just thinking why bother it's so sad..
@dibbidydoo4318
@dibbidydoo4318 Год назад
young kids are not worrying about this, adults are the ones that are freaking out.
@uk3dcom
@uk3dcom Год назад
@@dibbidydoo4318 I think you are probably right here. It is usually the established that freak the most when change comes knocking.
@carkawalakhatulistiwa
@carkawalakhatulistiwa Год назад
For first Time in historis art is free. Everyone can make works of art without having the talent to draw and paint, they only need imagination. #ai imagination image generator
@dibel3669
@dibel3669 Год назад
never thought i would live in the timeline of "Detroit Become Human"
@jasonargonaught8744
@jasonargonaught8744 Год назад
using such technology is not an easy thing. If you use a couple of words then your piece with come out looking like everybody else's who uses that particular tech. This current tech takes time. A lot of time to get an image that you are shooting for because you have to communicate in a precise way and order with precise punctuation to 'chisel' out the image that you want. Taking into consideration, lights, color, mood, environment and their placement. It is hard, incredibly difficult(for me) because it is like learning a new language and fluency is a hit or miss. It is, I think, just another tool to add to the artistic arsenal. People used to largely finger paint until the brush came along then that opened up a whole new way of generating what was in the artists mind. It became tool. Then digital came along and that became a tool that artists use to create different kinds of images. Now, this. Art is always evolving. Your art is incredible and I wish I could make my hands do that. But I learned by our art that finding my own way and focusing on that is what is working best for me right now because that is where I am at in my learning process. And that's okay.
@beetogarcia9983
@beetogarcia9983 Год назад
Remember when artists told people to cry about it because manual jobs would be automated first? Good times
@choochoochooseyou
@choochoochooseyou Год назад
I feel it could be businesses more than the individual that would turn to AI. Producing that new company image or creating a world suited just for their product. I guess I'm only speaking as a portrait artist where I would value a family portrait from an artist much more than if my ipad and Canon printer had produced it, but, you're right Jono, this could impact so many careers.
@gl00mberg
@gl00mberg Год назад
The thing with AI art is that it can only learn from actual human artist/paintings which means artist will always be in need. This is only disruptive if you choose to let it. Art is not limited to human, as we see this with nature, and the universe. Art is subjective and always will be.
@topenterclips
@topenterclips Год назад
The positives of AI generated artwork is the ability to not only flesh out ideas quickly but see potential different takes on your own work. Imagine the future of this being used to generate entire environments for gaming and cyberspace in VR and AR. This is a massive leap in a direction that artist will need. Nothing can take away your skills that you have trained for years, this will truly improve our work. The fun of art will always be creating it yourself however (personal touch). At the end of the day we love art and we will admire any beautiful piece.
@aelion7761
@aelion7761 Год назад
Yes on one hand you are right, but there are also a lot of negatives, with how ai art is improving so fast, all you will need to create the perfect art you need will only require sliders and prompts, yea for now artists are required, but after a while you won't need them anymore, ai art will be so easy that, you won't need to hire a lot of artists for big projects or anything, you can either learn it yourself or comission it to someone who can generate all the art you want for dirt cheap.
@topenterclips
@topenterclips Год назад
@@aelion7761 even if it becomes this easy to produce it will be a step in the right direction! The power of art will always lye with the artist. Let’s be honest here no AI art will ever be able to truly create a masterpiece even with the world of prompts. There is a reason why art is so close to us. It is felt not just seen. Also I wouldn’t mind seeing projects produced faster, and seeing artist work on what they love vs what they have been forced to work on! Let’s enjoy the change while appreciating the traditional.
@aelion7761
@aelion7761 Год назад
@@topenterclips Well ai art has already won a big competition, the judges deemed it a 'masterpiece', so you are wrong on that, but I do agree on the fact that ai will be a great tool for artists most artists will prosper with it.
@topenterclips
@topenterclips Год назад
@@aelion7761 I saw that already, I won’t say I was wrong. Albeit you may consider it a wrong if you’d like. I didn’t mean that it wouldn’t create quality art, it has a human element in it and it always will (in every industry it will have art directors to build on the canvas) it can also perform better than some-most artist at this point but it won’t exactly produce what we will especially mistake wise! What that man did only proved two things 1) that he can defraud judges 2) that he doesn’t want to create something from his own soul. I think there are masterpieces among the Ai Art but judging it by traditional means is pointless! (Plus we aren’t even interested in judging something computerized outside of performance based judgment) I think there are masterpieces at the Digital level and masterpieces at the traditional level as well. But I don’t think we will ever compare an engine to an actual Van Gogh or Picasso (simply because they are autonomous and think for themselves and feel human emotions) then they lay that on canvas! And the entire world is forever impacted by what masters create! AI can probably achieve a semblance of this, but generally humans tend to celebrate humans who they think have immense ‘Talent’ and skill and worked hard for what they loved! (Example: Any musician ever) I don’t think a masterpiece of ai art will ever need to hang in a gallery, it can just be in an online gallery! But I wouldn’t want to be against it because There is much art that never enters galleries! I specifically like the concept designs for many stages and cars! Once you’re a fan of art then the entire process fascinates you regardless of what kind of art it is… because someone somewhere had a unique way of viewing the world and created something out of it! Like a Lamborghini or a Porsche! Like a Ferrari or a Tom Ford! Like the buildings around us or the signs we see everyday! AI art may mimic our skills but never our swagger! It may know we enjoy blue skies and moods but it will never direct a scene with John wick or Tom cruise and make precisely cool choices like a specific aviator sun glasses throughout an entire film! It can only make cool choices after the fact! We can make choices cool! There is a reason why people run around in cosplay! There is a reason why everyone wants to be a model in vogue! But when we talk purely the spirit of the painter you’ll find that the story compels you sometimes more than the art ever will! Human stories drive everything! Like the story of the team I’m sure that built this AI! But as for perfect art (which doesn’t exist btw) it’s always in the communication skills of the artist! When AI starts communicating with us through its art! Then maybe we can take it as seriously!
@zofiakostyrko2285
@zofiakostyrko2285 Год назад
AI is taking away from artists their creative and existential "midjourney" of making art: the distance to be covered, earned and enjoyed between initial thought of an idea and final artwork. It is increasingly starting to flood the creative market with AI created images, making it even harder for individual artists to be visible enough to financially survive . And lastly - AI MidJourney and other similar programs already are or are likely to soon move behind a paywall to create images - it creates a deeper division between those who can afford software subscriptions, and the majority of artist that don't, while Creative & art directors, editors, and others who hire the artists can pay whatever it costs. With AI the clients and guys in charge don't have to deal with artist anymore to get what they need to sell their brand or product.
@WTFBUTWHY
@WTFBUTWHY 9 месяцев назад
People try to cope. But it's a gut punch to everyone in the industry.
@LITTLE1994
@LITTLE1994 Год назад
I can't blame him. Al art is creating a negative impact on real great human artists.
@artistluvdeeppal9276
@artistluvdeeppal9276 Год назад
When I try drawing with AI it fails miserably 🤣
@SkepticalCaveman
@SkepticalCaveman Год назад
Chess is actually more popular today than it has ever been, even though computer have been better for 25 years. The chess players adapted and are using the computers as a tool to improve their skills, just like artists have to do.
@shredd5705
@shredd5705 Год назад
Chess is a sport. They didn't stop running 100 meters, just because invention of motorbike. Or powerlifting, just because there is industrial cranes. Commercial art (like illustration) however is not a sport, people pay for the image itself, and you won't beat the AI not matter what you do. It works 1000x faster than you, even if you reach similar results.
@SkepticalCaveman
@SkepticalCaveman Год назад
@@shredd5705 And people won't stop drawing just because a computer can do it better. Art is a passion, not just a job, just like chess. Even today people still ride horses, not because they need to, but because they *want* to.
@Shiranova
@Shiranova Год назад
@@SkepticalCaveman Passion alone doesn't earn you money.
@SkepticalCaveman
@SkepticalCaveman Год назад
@@Shiranova I never claimed that it did.
@tutubedo
@tutubedo Год назад
Very appreciative for your perceptive and well articulated plea. Visual artists are now facing a similar problem to what musicians experience when they are rewarded with peanuts from corporations who broadcast their creation.
@Raybets
@Raybets Год назад
It boggles my mind how some people fail to empathise and realise the detrimental impact this has on artists, hobbyists and professionals alike. It's robbing away income, part of their identity, and what makes them unique. Now anyone and everyone can "create" beautiful artwork in mere seconds by just typing several words into a screen. What was once impossible for most people is no more that it massively decreased the value of authentic human art. Think about supply and demand. Anything commonplace loses value. Of course it's a huge blow to artists who trained years (some even decades) to master / sharpen skills that they take pride in and set them apart from others... Only to now be replaced by AI that's widely accessible for all. With every new automated technology, manual labours are losing significance. Sadly in this case, the damage greatly outweighs the good for the ones caught in the transition. Absolutely Brutal.
@kunaikat2232
@kunaikat2232 Год назад
cry more in your pencil cave ive generated 200 digital paintings of cyborg mecha fairies today
@railtonmatthew
@railtonmatthew Год назад
A big issue with this AI programs is that they have learnt by trawling the internet for millions of images, analysing (copying) their contents, without the consent of the owners. It would be impossible to create an AI program without these reference images. There is no recognition or compensation to the artists that created the original pieces.
@marksmith2913
@marksmith2913 Год назад
Traditional artists do the same thing. They make use of copyrighted works of art to build upon and develop their style.
@jamestaillon4781
@jamestaillon4781 Год назад
Can I just say it: "This is terrifying!" Being human is quickly becoming more and more ambiguous and obsolete.
@shredd5705
@shredd5705 Год назад
Next the AI will live in your house, drive your car, and have sex for you so you won't have to. You live in a 2x2 meter box, outside the city
@Mazeingpower
@Mazeingpower Год назад
RESPECT. I love the the mastery of Light and Shade. No matter what happens keep your skill sharp and your mind focused on what your creating and the journey will always be satisfying.
@merfyn4838
@merfyn4838 Год назад
Yeah if you draw as a hobby yes go wild but as a career youre doomed
@t.jandhightops3070
@t.jandhightops3070 Год назад
As someone who’s currently studying at Art College there’s nothing I love more than being told I’m “obsolete” and I’m “going to be replaced”. People keep saying that AI is the future and this is inevitable. If we reach a future where everything that was once human about us is just machines and codes then truly we will have lost our reason for being.
@mjeffn2
@mjeffn2 Год назад
If Picasso and Braque listened to the artists of their day and thought of photography and moving pictures as a threat, they may have not invented Cubism which was their idea of how to compress images over time into a single two dimensional canvas. There is an unreasonable amount of irrational hyperbole coming from “freaked out” artists scared of change and lacking enough belief in their own ability to adapt and change how they do things that opportunities for entirely new possibilities are probably being overlooked by most, and recognized by a few. What could be more human than that?
@dibbidydoo4318
@dibbidydoo4318 Год назад
@@mjeffn2 "their idea of how to compress images over time into a single two dimensional canvas." something mathematicians and physicists were doing for a much longer with time graphs.
@misswomble
@misswomble Год назад
In the future, the conceptual ideas and emotive expression of the idea behind the art will drive the art market, and artists will have to get their values in check and find their voice, what is the message of the art. Programing the ai correctly to achieve a clear vision or even speak to the concept of a ai randomly generated aesthetic to fit an artists intent. I see it as a tool, like google images, it's the refinement of the aesthetic, the politics of those aesthetic, the concept, and so on that the conversation around the art will generate and with that the artists ability to own the message in the art. When the art is used to bring some kind of message or a set of values in an emotive and inspiring way, then maybe art will have more power to shape our futures through the art that reaches and inspires people, ai art on its own will be viewed as too overdone, but as a starting place its where we bring it as artists that will count going forward. It's already here, so we need to consider where we personally stand with it in regards to our own practice.
@athiokrechina6204
@athiokrechina6204 Год назад
I have never seen n Pencil Artist like u..U are Really an Inspiration for us.❤️❤️..i really wana know n learn more about your Work and U....Truly an Amazing Artist..🔥🔥❤️❤️
@kentang5103
@kentang5103 Год назад
Let's imagine AI as a Human. In 2022, several supers CG painters born, their names are DALL-E2, Stable Diffusion. They can imitate any painting style in the world and paint thousands of believable CGs in seconds. Everyone can ask them to draw CG paintings. They sometimes produce very well-finished works. They are good at combining concepts, thousand times faster than human. We know that there are always artists better than ourself. Artists should never stop explore beauty. The problem is that people buy a CG from Artist DALL-E2 and claim that they draw it by their own. How stubit those people are? DALL-E2, Stable Diffusion, may give you good suggestions or ideas. Eventhough AI owners say they don't hold the copy right, will you steal others artists works to claim it is your work? And we should stop AI's owner to train AI by not asking the creators copyright. If you worry about your job , ask your boss.
@breaktheimage3
@breaktheimage3 Год назад
A.I is amazing and scary. A.I isn't going get ride of artists it's going to lead to much more dynamic works. Taking away tge gatekeeper and leading to a more dynamic economy of art. It will race the bar and push handcrafted art to a new level yet to be imagined.
@auletteJ
@auletteJ Год назад
The neatest use I have seen is a company that creates these incredible fairy/fantasy inspired dresses has been using it to help generate a concept and then they actually create and sew the dress.
@shoethief
@shoethief Год назад
I think this is the best use and when it starts catching on, will take art to a new level for artists. It's like looking into someone elses imagination.
@drewd9985
@drewd9985 Год назад
Jono. I respect your work greatly - there is obvious skill, obvious thought and obvious statement that, tellingly, evokes further thought in the viewer - and I don't think you have cause to be disheartened by AI's corner offerings. They are interesting to the eye, but they are, at the heart of it, substandard in thought and message. Have you noticed that, although the AI algorithms can make something interesting and compelling with good composition, they aren't making anything new? Without your art in the world, AI would never be able to imagine to make what you make. To my mind, each individual viewing the glut of AI art, they see thousands of artworks that they wouldn't have produced - as if the AI has limitless imaginative potential and that can be disheartening - but after you've looked at enough of them, you start seeing a pattern and the images have nothing intrinsically new to them. Many of them, although attractive, have such regular thematic constructs and stylisations that they border on the kitsch - they draw their constructs from the mass of art, not on unique art. Maybe all AI will do is weed out artists making formulaic work and push creative, imaginative, fine artists forward. The ones making actual statements in ways that push thinking and artistic appreciation in the viewer. Don't despair - I don't think AI would have come up with your themes, style and refinement - especially not the three together - and the only way that an AI could even imitate you is for someone to specify that it specifically imitates your style. Even then, to the keen observer, I wouldn't be surprised if that art came across as somewhat of a pastiche of what you produce. AI isn't producing intrinsically new art. I recently made a series of triptychs and I look at them and am certain that current AI's would have never had the chain of thought in the creation and be able to create anything near similar or even 50% of what I've created nor the statement and cognitive links between the pieces that I deliberately made. If you look at any artist's work and think that an AI wouldn't have 'thought' to make it, even with all the prompts from an individual, then it will hold strong as art.
@uk3dcom
@uk3dcom Год назад
Hi Drew, I agree with your sentiments here but AI image creation is really in it's infancy. The General Artifical Inteligence (GAI) that is coming will I think inevitably blur the lines even further. Microsoft have already demonstrated that 3D printing of paintings that use AI are pretty indistinguishable from human artists by a human audience. My hope is that the individual artist will be protected in some way from the AI clone systems.
@Lee-vg8yk
@Lee-vg8yk Год назад
Sorry to hear that what"s going on
@BelleHealingMusic
@BelleHealingMusic Год назад
I agree with everything you said. In terms of art people are cheap and cheat more so than any profession. Or ever hobyiest describe themselves as artists on instagram, youtube, as if by reading an anatomy book you can become a doctor. And you know there is an artist like you putting hours of works with creativity also is an artist. I see them on instragram under artists and I want to shout you are not an artist you are merely drawing things by copying others, hobbyist the best. I even commented on here while you have about 500K subscribers someone who merely draws eyes has 2.5M and basically they don't knoe what art means. You are the only artist I see anywhere can draw an eye anatomically correct. I am coming from a medical background and it amazes me you see eyes with all details like an ophthalmologist. And so I believe people will seriously copy AI art as if they created the idea sad. But what is not ?
@TheChocolatBlanc
@TheChocolatBlanc Год назад
3:59 What a masterpiece haha.
@hontilash
@hontilash Год назад
i'm from mexico, and let me say that people pay you for how hard it is to replace you, not for how much love of art you have. Where I'm from, we live on 120 dollars a month, and if we complain they fire us, because there is a line of people who need those 120 dollars more than you and who may settle for only 100. If you can train a person to make 3d models in weeks or ilustrations, I don't see why your work should be worth the same.
@bree-annramats5656
@bree-annramats5656 Год назад
Huge fan and hope to one day get many of your pieces! (limited space and finances at the moment) Just curious -- do you ever sell the originals and if you do how much would one go for? I only have respect for artists -- as you said -- the ones who put in all the time and effort!
@Archi0fficial
@Archi0fficial Год назад
I don't feel like it's destructive for the art community, i think art is about ourselves an AI can't replicate our feeling after finishing an art piece, same it's great to get new ideas when you burn out and they can't make paper drawings that are physical aswell
@LeoRileyShines
@LeoRileyShines Год назад
You can't fake pride. You get to be proud of your work in a very honest real way. Those using AI art, cannot can feel the same pride or ownership. There's something special about pieces created with hard work.
@padamvara
@padamvara 2 года назад
Informtive video jono.. your works beautiful than AI . ❤️from India
@lindamclean8809
@lindamclean8809 Год назад
Dehumanising...totally.....it’s horrible.......DONT support this in any way people...blessings to you Jono❤❤❤
@DiluvianChronicles
@DiluvianChronicles Год назад
Thank you for this. I really appreciate your ability to convey the complexities of the situation without falling solely into either camp. I think the conversation around this topic needs more sensible voices like yours. I had basically just begun to learn concept art and digital painting when this began so I fell into a weird space where I love the accessibility this will bring but can understand (a bit of) the massive frustrations that artists must feel. Thank you for sharing.
@MentalPistol
@MentalPistol Год назад
why does it matter what camp he falls in. That type of naeutrality is nothing to be 'admired'. Just say you're happy that he didn't bash AI art as an artist.
@DiluvianChronicles
@DiluvianChronicles Год назад
@@MentalPistol that type of neutrality is going to be necessary for people to make decisions on this topic moving forward. I don't want artists to feel abused and I don't want people to ban AI art. Let's find the middle ground.
@sderb2562
@sderb2562 2 года назад
An interesting video buddy and definately something of importance in the future. There was a book i read once that spoke about a future in which humans didnt have to perform labour etc and that all work was undertaken by machines and humans were free to be creative...everyone was a creator or artist of some kind. Its a scary thought that technology will replace all the things we are capable of and render creativity obsolete aswell. Technology has already taken away so much of what it means to be human...i hope we can atleast maintain some creative arts and that human imagination is still held with some esteem in the future. Great vid as always!...All the best 👍
@tomhighsmith
@tomhighsmith Год назад
Do you really think you give people time to get creative? When I look around me I see them only busy with their phone and remote control.
@sderb2562
@sderb2562 Год назад
@@tomhighsmith I understand what you mean.... the point is that if NOBODY had to work, then every individual can choose whether or not they want to be creative (or i suppose spend all day on their phones 😂) because everyone would have the time and energy. Theres lots of people that would be creative if you took working life away from them...if nothing else, they'd be creative just out of boredom. All the best mate 👍
@eugenechun4140
@eugenechun4140 Год назад
AI merges with Photoshop merges with Final Cut Pro etc... I see production costs going wayyy down in the future for films etc... AI music... AI art... AI everything... pretty soon, you won't even need real actors for films etc... Getting freaky...
@judihart9658
@judihart9658 Год назад
🧠🤔☝️have ya heard of sculptural painting? Sculpt&Paint?=Computer Age Progress on that to?Cause Yeah! I hear some are just taking fake flowers for example & just dipping them.=😖Seems so much less gratifying to me .& Lacking creativity.🤷‍♀️imho. Question really is? ☝️Is the 🎨palette knife & pencils,pens, brushes,paints etc.art supplies becoming obsolete?& Shouldn't we stand up! .?& Say? No. 🤨You may call that art progress.However!☝️I do not.&I am not ok with that.🤷‍♀️✌️💖😎
@shaneyohner7246
@shaneyohner7246 Год назад
What do you think about using AI art only as a reference to produce traditional productions?
@topenterclips
@topenterclips Год назад
An artist can choose any reference he likes. If your choice is Ai that is fine :) have fun!
@randymulder9105
@randymulder9105 Год назад
What is your proposal, if a proposal is required for an exhibition of art? Are these variables in the requirements to compete? AI art assisted. Or human made? Or both? Does the proposal require you to say...well...I'm a thief, I have no art background, and I hate the art community so this is my artistic message? Or will people chill the f down and when they compete in fine art competitions they atleast follow requirements such as: Make art that is authentic to your life's journey, be authentic, and succeed in sending a message that conveys something about yourself. Outside the fine art forums...do whatever you want, however you want? Be souless, mesageless, and meaningless? Basically manufacture as many velvet Elvis paintings as possible. I like Elvis paintings. But, art school and serious artists likely won't accept velvet Elvis paintings. Either way. Exciting times.
@chumleyk
@chumleyk Год назад
You can literally prompt Midjourney to create work IN THE STYLE OF JONO DRY and it will do it really well and it's so much cheaper. I don't have to commission Jono now.
@madbull338hit8
@madbull338hit8 7 месяцев назад
It's art generated by a computer with no mediums also explaining to people that the computer did the work you just gave the computer the idea so the self accomplishment and pride is out the window.
@J.D.Vision
@J.D.Vision Год назад
🧑‍💻 It's only a matter of time, till A.I. uses 3D printing to create A.I. generated sculptures, and architecture.🤔 It wouldn't surprise me to see Statue of Liberty size works of art, completely made out of construction/industrial grade 3D printing machines combined with this type of technology in the not so far future. 🤷
@legatomodi3522
@legatomodi3522 Год назад
Midjourney is awesome but it's can only create with techniques artists have perfected over time. It is quite impressive what it imagines. I think it could be used as a tool for inspiring. Like you got an image in your mind and you wanna see what the AI thinks it should be in composition and you can say "But I'd do it this way instead" or it can show you new ways to illustrate things that you never knew. Its good to get a technical perspective of what you want to create even if you do it a different way.
@cyndih4720
@cyndih4720 Год назад
"Starving artists" will truly starve to death, or become hobby artists. Nothing is sacred anymore.... Hopefully many will still appreciate true thought-out and hand-rendered work.
@F3iNOfficial
@F3iNOfficial Год назад
When I think about this from the perspective of a job - its really scary, but when I think about this from the perspective of a hobby - I dont really care, because AI can have wide possibility, but still its not read ur mind, and only u know what u really want to achive. Using AI will not made u a creator. Its like u made a request to "artist" about something and he probably will provide u with what u want. Most people will be happy, but U know, that u want something little different. AI is like using character creator from Black Desert, its impressive, but still have limits. I to this day never reach the level of professional because of my lazynes etc. but i want to change this, and AI doesnt change this... but like i say before, for hobby only, because I dont like pression of time.
@gitbuh12345qwerty
@gitbuh12345qwerty Год назад
it's hilarious watching these videos 9 months down the line, AI is literally about to revolutionize everything and we are so scared of it because we're "special". We aren't, we're all little drops in the ocean. It's the ocean that is special, not any particular individual artist. For every Karla Ortiz here is a Marcin Rubinkowski.
@RyanReed-x6i
@RyanReed-x6i 7 месяцев назад
i find it pretty existentially horrifying as someone who not only gets so much of the meaning in my life from not really even creating artwork but learning to create artwork and the process of learning and dedicating my life and passion to learning how to draw and create, but also as someone who thinks the individual creation of art and learning the process of creating art is so important to humanity as a whole, and it does worry me that if the arts are even less viable as careers, we will enter a real dark age wrt art and art knowledge being collectively lost when it's less valued and goes unlearned by future generations. But, that said, it's also interesting to think about and see from the perspective of it being the creation of a collective consciousness of humanity, the creator being humanity as a whole instead of just one individual, and that's scary because no one can compete with that, but in a way it's a reflection, at least potentially, a reflection of humanity as a whole as a creator.
@ivanprusac5779
@ivanprusac5779 Год назад
....As long as artist's make videos like yours that show you/them actually doing the work, i don't think you will ever have anything to worry about. I always emphasize in my descriptions of my paintings "no filters or special effects, hand made, no computers." and people have told me they love that description i throw in. Think about the upper hand we have anyways, an AI artist could never film himself actually doing the work himself, the video would be just a guy punching in word on the screen hahahahaha. Ya no thanks. NEXT! Hand made is the best made hands down, period. Nothing can ever change that.
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