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A few wild and interesting OB scenarios in the recent years of disc golf that were captured on film - Part 3
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@Jacob-Simonsen
@Jacob-Simonsen Год назад
As Lizotte says, if a debate is needed, it's inbound
@bentoews3363
@bentoews3363 Год назад
That's not true. The rule says that each player votes and if the vote is tied, the benefit goes to the player.
@TheSqueakGeek
@TheSqueakGeek Год назад
​@@bentoews3363 oh really? The real rule? Good look, Sherlock.
@YersiniaPestisNPO
@YersiniaPestisNPO Год назад
Cat was so confidently wrong haha
@tylersavoy5899
@tylersavoy5899 Год назад
If cat called a warning for that disc grab out of the chains, that’s super petty. She made the putt, don’t know why she’d be angry. Especially after Allen acted all flustered and “whatever” with an attitude during their previous OB discussion she threw directly into a pond. Terrible sportsmanship imo
@ronjones-6977
@ronjones-6977 Год назад
Well, not the first time she's "cheated." (allegedly)
@briangosnell9521
@briangosnell9521 Год назад
Eagles disc is 100% in, I wouldn’t have even had a second thought about it!
@nktaylo1
@nktaylo1 Год назад
Simon just said on Brodie and Ulis podcasts that he thinks if it takes this much deliberation, then benefit should fall to the player. Imo this should have been in. If it's ambiguous, the player gets the benefit of the doubt.
@BadBrucey
@BadBrucey Год назад
I disagree. The water line is considered the OB line and it's clearly above the rocks the disc is lying on. I also wouldn't care one way or the other though. If Simon and Eagle thinks it's in I'd give it to him.
@zanierrules
@zanierrules Год назад
@@BadBrucey but it's not "clearly" because they're all debating it, and the point is valid -> if it takes minutes of debate, just call it in, who cares
@BadBrucey
@BadBrucey Год назад
@@zanierrules Ricky and Drew called it out right away. You can't just let the person throwing it debate it and then say, well it's debatable so it's in.
@craigcampbell1843
@craigcampbell1843 Год назад
@@BadBrucey unfortunately you can. Until disc golf has officials on every hole like golf does everything has to be agreed upon by the entire card.
@marshallkutyn3043
@marshallkutyn3043 Год назад
Cat's shot was at least 30ft short of the shore. No chance she crossed in bounds
@EliteProductions3129
@EliteProductions3129 Год назад
Cat thinking her shot was good while shitting on the other player's shot was absolutely insane.
@chrisfaubert2346
@chrisfaubert2346 Год назад
But she said as “100% sure”!?… Yeah I’m with you. She seems cranky, grumpy, and trumpy.
@yeerk
@yeerk Год назад
while i agree with you, she was at least right that their shots were nothing alike. no common ground was found between Cat and her cardmates lol
@thaatsriight
@thaatsriight Год назад
Raaarrreee 🐱
@kalen1702
@kalen1702 Год назад
@@EliteProductions3129 I like Cat, but this was a wild moment I've never seen... pretty gross way to play the game imo
@bosoxdanc1
@bosoxdanc1 Год назад
There's absolutely no way Cat really thought she went over.
@yodakazam
@yodakazam Год назад
Neither did and I understand the competetive juices are flowing but ffs just listen to your card and move on, arguing about it is just going to frustrate you more
@workaccount3872
@workaccount3872 Год назад
She's a disc golf Karen. I wish nothing but the worst for her every time I see that bigoted, petty twat out on a card.
@chuckmynorris
@chuckmynorris 9 месяцев назад
Straight up just trying to cheat
@JB-qe2mo
@JB-qe2mo Год назад
😂 drew says to Eagle he needs to look closely and everyone else is saying they think it's too close to tell( like it should be), next clip no idea where it crossed doesn't care what the spotter says and puts himself wherever fits best for him 😂😂😂. I don't want to completely judge him by those those two clips but that's some shifty stuff from drew.
@nktaylo1
@nktaylo1 Год назад
Ball don't lie; he missed the save. Hahaha
@derekbroekhoven5498
@derekbroekhoven5498 Год назад
He's underrated as a huge tool, especially wrt rule calls
@derekbroekhoven5498
@derekbroekhoven5498 Год назад
Also yeah I was at OTB when he threw that shot, in no universe was that anywhere near crossing the in bounds line.
@M1ster.Fr3sh
@M1ster.Fr3sh Год назад
@@derekbroekhoven5498 100% agree, his ego is stuck in a high school.
@JB-qe2mo
@JB-qe2mo Год назад
@@derekbroekhoven5498 🤣
@tylerrhoton9848
@tylerrhoton9848 Год назад
I was watching Drew's shot at OTB in person...it 100% did not cross inbounds. Justice was served in the form of a tubbed putt lol
@workaccount3872
@workaccount3872 Год назад
Drew is a fucking awful person. The tour would be so much better without people like him and Cat.
@jacobcolon5295
@jacobcolon5295 Год назад
these compilations are addicting and the drew gibson one at OTB was really funny, philo cooked him for missing after he got the call
@pallew
@pallew Год назад
Nate called it quick as it should be, when in doubt, it's safe
@anthonybryson4826
@anthonybryson4826 Год назад
Simon is the man. He tried getting eagle in bounds
@senbranderson4168
@senbranderson4168 Год назад
Meanwhile, me and my disc homies are like if you can fetch that disc from the middle of a near-frozen lake with nothing but your underwear and a 2 foot stick, you get an ace. I get it though, there's money on on the line here and it's rules play. Most of these guys in the video are cool about it. That first one though... c'mon. It's above the water level and if rocks don't count as land, you need to reconsider mountains.
@trev3971
@trev3971 Год назад
Simon is all about fair play. If it's debatable, it's in, let's play. Ball don't lie, as it were.
@Finduski
@Finduski Год назад
That eagle's disc was inbounce
@stardustie
@stardustie Год назад
​@@Finduski okay so you saw it better than they did? nice
@Zourah
@Zourah Год назад
Hes consistent, was just recently asked his disc golf pet peeves on the Brodie & Uli podcast, he said this exact situation where people sit around for minutes debating in or out. Benefit to the player, if it might be in, call it in and move on with the round.
@estebong
@estebong Год назад
Seems Drew always has the most to say lol
@craigcampbell1843
@craigcampbell1843 Год назад
No kidding. He’s been coming across as a real whiner this year!
@davycrocket4858
@davycrocket4858 8 месяцев назад
​@@craigcampbell1843and in that high-pitched 10 year old's voice 🤬
@haasjacintomartinez1586
@haasjacintomartinez1586 Год назад
funny how the real winning players are willing to cut slack when it comes to close calls but the ones that talk/brag always want to call foul on every little issue
@ArchyRebels110
@ArchyRebels110 Год назад
Simon, voice of reason
@TheMakki
@TheMakki Год назад
Eagle's disc was on a dry rock above the water line. Totally in. Drew bullied the card out of it.
@ToddsDiscGolf
@ToddsDiscGolf 10 месяцев назад
So like a big boulder sticking out of the water on in a river or lake is inbounds? I’m new so am not sure but it seems like Drew’s thinking is that anything inside the outer water boundary is OB (even rocks sticking up out of the water). Is that addressed in the official rules?
@davycrocket4858
@davycrocket4858 8 месяцев назад
​@@ToddsDiscGolfaccording to rule 33.19-24: "any rock sticking above the surface of the water at the time that the disc comes to rest upon it, is considered in bounds, unless that dic belongs to Drew Gibson. Any rock touched by Drew's disc is to be picked from the earth and hurled at Drew's head by each member of the card, before Gibson proceeds to the drop zone with a 1 penalty stroke
@cholesims382
@cholesims382 Год назад
Cat was smokin something thinking that shot crossed.
@jbbbrown10
@jbbbrown10 Год назад
Cat said I didn’t see Jessica’s shot then next sentence was your shot was nothing like mine
@DarttheLegend
@DarttheLegend Год назад
Catrina's always trying to get away with cheating.
@brianh553
@brianh553 Год назад
Especially on Ulibarri.
@kendalljones6525
@kendalljones6525 8 месяцев назад
​@@brianh553😂😂😂
@happycampers6592
@happycampers6592 Год назад
Drew throws far but he could probably throw even farther if he would get rid of that chip on his shoulder. The dude gets to throw frisbees for a living, yet he is in a constant state of being pissed off.
@camdenfedders6535
@camdenfedders6535 Год назад
How is he pissed off?
@Finduski
@Finduski Год назад
He aint pissed off. Gabbon buhr is. Kid thinks all of his throws and putts should go in
@kalen1702
@kalen1702 Год назад
@@Finduski I haven't really seen that out of Gannon besides a bad round or two and it certainly wasn't towards anyone on his card (do you have examples?). He's the new kid on the block, seems respectable, and I liked talking to him when I played with him casually in Iowa at the course he helped design when he was 15.
@lenstemberger1515
@lenstemberger1515 Год назад
Having the card decide these kinds of things in a friendly game or local league is one thing. But in a professional tournament with actual money riding on it, there should be a neutral third party that makes these decisions. Even if most players wouldn't say a shot was OB just to cost the other guy a stroke, somebody would and that would always raise questions. Especially the first time it happens on the Lead card final round, where this decision might decide a tournament.
@JB-qe2mo
@JB-qe2mo Год назад
That's honestly a very good idea!!
@AutobahnSHO
@AutobahnSHO Год назад
Some day we'll get there- but the sport didn't have money to pay 18 officials to watch each hole or follow each card. Maybe officials will be hired for the Pro Tour or some A tier events, but might not ever happen for the cheaper events.
@davycrocket4858
@davycrocket4858 8 месяцев назад
Why couldn't they just have an official or two, on call, ready to zip in on a golf cart and give an unbiased ruling?
@baronvonnembles
@baronvonnembles Год назад
Eagle's shot was in-bounds. The disc in the bunker was OB. Gibson's shot probably didn't cross in bounds but the first camera angle was cut off too soon. Cat Allen was correct that her disc likely went OB in the more advanced position.
@playdiscgolf1546
@playdiscgolf1546 Год назад
Eagles disc is in bounds bro. There’s no way you can call that out of bounds. They’re saying it’s close but it’s not
@playdiscgolf1546
@playdiscgolf1546 Год назад
And then the next Clip, Drew gives himself the benefit of the doubt that he didn’t give Eagle. And he clearly never crosses….lol
@coast2coast00
@coast2coast00 Год назад
The weird thing is that it seems they convinced Eagle he was out and he picked up his disc, rather than making the judgment for him, as is required. That and Simon's point of it taking so long, they should just give it to him as it wasn't clear.
@007tryner1
@007tryner1 Год назад
@@coast2coast00 they just let the loudest guy decide i guess...
@playdiscgolf1546
@playdiscgolf1546 Год назад
@@007tryner1 the loudest and douche-iest
@FormerAmericanIdol
@FormerAmericanIdol Год назад
Yeah no you're wrong. If there is a rock on the shore that is surrounded by water and a disc lands balanced on the rock (but not touching land), it is OB. The whole point Drew was making was you could see "under" the disc, meaning it wasn't touching land. They agreed the rock was surrounded by water so it's OB. Ricky and Drew said OB, that's really the end of discussion, unfortunately. Funny Drew gets the brunt of the hate when Ricky was pretty adamant about calling it 😁
@twistedtakes2115
@twistedtakes2115 Год назад
Eagle was safe
@BadBrucey
@BadBrucey Год назад
No. Water line was beyond the rocks the disc was lying on. It was OB.
@williamreed3060
@williamreed3060 Год назад
Worst card ever to play on would be with Drew and Nikko. They want to stretch the rules and call out every one else
@BenKickert
@BenKickert Год назад
Add Joel to that card and it would be a real shit show.
@davycrocket4858
@davycrocket4858 8 месяцев назад
​@@BenKickertlol I was thinking the same. That would be the ultimate nightmare car to be put on
@BadBrucey
@BadBrucey Год назад
Jessica: "If you crossed it, I crossed it." Cat: "I 100% crossed." Paige: "I think Jessica's crossed." Me: *_"NEITHER OF YOU CROSSED."_* 🙄
@jakebourassa
@jakebourassa Год назад
They aren’t talking about crossing the whole pond, just where it crossed the ob line into the pond. Jessica threw an anhyzer and almost definitely was in bounds farther up the right side than cat. That’s what they are debating
@BadBrucey
@BadBrucey Год назад
@@jakebourassa The water line is OB and they are both talking about crossing the pond section. Just look back from where they are arguing about it.
@jakebourassa
@jakebourassa Год назад
@@BadBrucey yeah I looked again, saw the same thing I saw the first time. They are arguing about where they went in off the fairway right side of the pond
@BadBrucey
@BadBrucey Год назад
@@jakebourassa Look at where they are arguing. Now look at where Catrina goes back to shoot. See the water in front of her? Now look at where she shoots her provisional? That's what they're talking about crossing...and they're even using the word CROSSING. I'm not sure what's confusing you about this.
@SHIZZLER__
@SHIZZLER__ Год назад
I know the feeling and looking for that one blade of grass.
@kimmomatikainen1843
@kimmomatikainen1843 Год назад
One person commented in Blue Ridge video that there should not be a painted OB around water area and water should be OB line. By having a painted line or a rope or sticks, it eliminates this type of is there water around discussion. Anyway, in benefit of a doubt, it is player's benefit. If there was water around the rocks and in front of the disc, then it was OB. Can't see that from a video. Water level changes so having a water level as OB ,it is not the same for the whole field. Water level can change during the day.
@ronjones-6977
@ronjones-6977 Год назад
Not when the line has been abused by feet and the weather. Someone will always say, "but what about...."
@undeadarmy19
@undeadarmy19 Год назад
When I'm on a card I always give any benefit of the doubt to the player, I don't want them to be OB, even though we're competing against each other. Although, I am only MA1, so once really money becomes a part of it mentalities might change.
@hawleyj22
@hawleyj22 Год назад
Cat: “I’m 100% sure I crossed but like I said I didn’t see Jess’s shot so if you think you crossed….” Jess: “I think if you crossed then I crossed cuz…” Cat: “well my shot was nothing like your shot. Yours was nose up and high” But she didn’t see it lol
@NeoClutch08
@NeoClutch08 Год назад
Drew is annoying
@craigcampbell1843
@craigcampbell1843 Год назад
I’m starting to agree with you. And whiny.
@jakeheerwagen8007
@jakeheerwagen8007 9 месяцев назад
They really need to just have a line even if water is in place. Like in ball golf it’s easy to go when it’s out or in cause we have a line. Or little flags or something so it’s just easier
@chrisp9824
@chrisp9824 Год назад
When in doubt, you're not out ;)
@henrydudley5947
@henrydudley5947 Год назад
Ok.. this was the video that finally soured me against Drew I think
@zachalbin1328
@zachalbin1328 Год назад
There's plenty to choose from lol
@reitairue2073
@reitairue2073 9 месяцев назад
Dude always seemed like a stuck up douche bag to me. 🤷‍♂
@johnnybebad5469
@johnnybebad5469 Год назад
It's in there should be no question
@forrestmcpeake6400
@forrestmcpeake6400 Год назад
If there is ever any doubt if it's OB or not, it's not OB.
@undeadarmy19
@undeadarmy19 Год назад
I dont think it should be up to the card to determine this sort of thing, there is an obvious bias and some people can def use that.
@davidmccurdy380
@davidmccurdy380 5 месяцев назад
Eagle got bullied by Drew on the first call. Tough to see colleagues/friends not give each other the benefit of the doubt
@codymoreland4496
@codymoreland4496 Год назад
7:15 😅😅 how the f you gonna say you crossed????
@thomasahne9857
@thomasahne9857 Год назад
The bunker situation is a bad call for me. Just because the grass is growing in a direction, it doesn´t make the disc in bounds. The disc has to touch the base of the grass at least!
@klapiroska4714
@klapiroska4714 Год назад
If the bunker line is defined as the edge of grass, then all parts of the grass count as playable area. I think it's a stupid way to define hazard/OB line, but it is what it is. If you were to use the base of the grass as the line, then you'd need to strictly define where it is, i.e. where the root ends and the grassy bit begins. In high-level events, simply use strings, stiks, paint or any other form of more clear way of marking OB/hazard lines. Or follow Lizottes advice and give the benefit to the player if the card cannot conclude if the disc is in or not within reasonable ammount of time.
@xoxo98_
@xoxo98_ Год назад
catrina allen 👎👎👎 looks flustered
@craigcampbell1843
@craigcampbell1843 Год назад
Flustered is not the word I would use to describe her. Lol
@xoxo98_
@xoxo98_ Год назад
@@craigcampbell1843 yeah she’s soft
@craigcampbell1843
@craigcampbell1843 Год назад
@@xoxo98_ you’re being nicer than I would be. Lol
@trev3971
@trev3971 Год назад
Drew quickly becoming one of my least favorite players.
@davidchang2250
@davidchang2250 Год назад
I never try to make my opponents look like fools and bash them on their decisions. Drew and Cat are something else!
@reitairue2073
@reitairue2073 9 месяцев назад
Terrible sportsmanship looks awful in all sports.
@jackeddemon
@jackeddemon Год назад
First one was in bounds by a mile. Drew is a weenee
@samueljohansson429
@samueljohansson429 Год назад
Im guessing paige called her on the last one…
@brom6941
@brom6941 Год назад
These people are playing for semi-serious money……..there should be an unbiased referee available for every tournament
@eudyptes5046
@eudyptes5046 Год назад
The purses in disc golf are not even semi-serious.
@brom6941
@brom6941 Год назад
@@eudyptes5046 12 grand for first place seems semi serious to me………but I could see it being small change for some.
@reitairue2073
@reitairue2073 9 месяцев назад
@@brom6941 Gotta remember to us normies that have to work to get by, 12k to WIN is not much. Considering the commitment it takes to win.
@billmartinn9851
@billmartinn9851 Год назад
So the minute they have to look and speculate, there is doubt: benefit goes to the player. This is ridiculous.
@jaysantos11
@jaysantos11 Год назад
words have no real meaning these days to accommodate the progressive agenda. so most people aren’t arguing in good faith anymore
@dr.ew88
@dr.ew88 Год назад
There should be a time limit on deliberation if we're gonna start being dicks on the shot clock.
@modernhustle11
@modernhustle11 Год назад
Can we all take a moment to lol at the fpo trying to throw 300’
@Kirkorr123
@Kirkorr123 Год назад
There should be referees not players making calls.
@nolanlewis7902
@nolanlewis7902 Год назад
7:58 both shots were garbage that ended up deep OB
@thaatsriight
@thaatsriight Год назад
So much of this wouldn’t be a debate if we just played stroke and distance rules… if you go OB on your drive but can still putt for Par something just seems wrong about that.
@jamespeace2984
@jamespeace2984 Год назад
Drew is just upset that he has a woman's voice.
@whatdoiputherelol
@whatdoiputherelol Год назад
lmao women. courtesy warning on that disc pull out of the basket.
@randybaker6042
@randybaker6042 Год назад
The way it should be: No debate. No attempts to sway other player's opinions. Each player is responsible for watching and what they saw or see. There is a question? Each player states the call and the vote is tallied. Tie goes to the thrower. Simple as that. Get back to play.
@reitairue2073
@reitairue2073 9 месяцев назад
Typically yes, play with someone like Drew or Nikko and not so much. Too many people are just soft.
@eyeswideshut5306
@eyeswideshut5306 Год назад
Players calling their own card mates errors and ob needs to be eradicated. Imagine that in any other sport. It's laughable and impossible to be unbiased.
@warpo007
@warpo007 Год назад
painful to watch. when in doubt, it's in. simple.
@craigcampbell1843
@craigcampbell1843 Год назад
99% of the time I think out of bounds is stupid. It’s golf. Play it where it lies. Don’t replace skill with luck. If the course isn’t challenging enough without OB maybe it just shouldn’t be on the tour.
@EliteProductions3129
@EliteProductions3129 Год назад
Trees are also luck. Let's get rid of trees too.
@craigcampbell1843
@craigcampbell1843 Год назад
@@EliteProductions3129 it’s called the two meter rule and it should be brought back. You shouldn’t be able to take the entire hole design out of play and get stuck in the top of a tree right next to the basket and get to play from there with no penalty. And of course water is different but I’ve seen courses with mowed fairways lined with woods. The player misses the fairway, goes into the woods and just gets to play from the fairway with a stroke penalty. That takes skill and course design away and it just becomes a game of throw wherever you want and whoever gets the fewest penalty strokes wins. Their penalty for missing the fairway should be having to play it from where it lies. It’s fair for everyone that way and more exciting for spectators to watch them have to scramble from a bad lie than to just play it from the fairway with a one stroke penalty and a much easier lie. A lot of touring pros agree that’s how the game should be played.
@craigcampbell1843
@craigcampbell1843 Год назад
@@EliteProductions3129 with manufactured out of bounds you could have two equally good shots within a foot of each other and both in play (not in water or the top of a tree) and one could be penalized while the other one isn’t. That’s not how golf is played and it’s not how disc golf should be played either. Play it from where it lies and if that’s not challenging enough for the pros then just make the course design more difficult.
@JJ79_
@JJ79_ Год назад
@@craigcampbell1843 2m rule is one of the most dumbest rules what you can ever imagine, along with the mando rule where you make the mando but kick back from the wrong side and it cancels the whole thing..
@craigcampbell1843
@craigcampbell1843 Год назад
@@JJ79_ the two meter rule makes a lot of sense and forced players to play holes the way they were designed to be played. I agree I do not understand the new rule that you can be penalized after already making a mando. Once you make a mando you’ve made the mando. End of story. Then, again, you should just play it where it lies.
@victoryanthems
@victoryanthems Год назад
I don't understand how the hell this sport is paying some players millions of dollars but is still relying on their peers to referee the game in these big tournaments. These guys and girls work with each other week after week and this method breeds resentment between them. Not all the time, but i'm sure it does happen.
@bradylinerud8556
@bradylinerud8556 Год назад
First
@mopar6873
@mopar6873 Год назад
If in doubt take the penilty. Wasting time arguing about touching inbounds. If you are out man up to it.
@shawnhill4779
@shawnhill4779 Год назад
When in doubt the benefit goes to the player. Drew was wrong ... there was doubt, so Eagle's disc should have been considered in.
@BadBrucey
@BadBrucey Год назад
@@shawnhill4779 Drew and Ricky called it out since the disc didn't cross the water line. Eagle did man up to it in the end though.
@reitairue2073
@reitairue2073 9 месяцев назад
@@BadBrucey Simon was right tho, it should have been called in bounds and continue play. Drew literally made them sit there longer until he got what he wanted.
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