Professionally Roasting your Art.. (ROAST & REVIEW) 

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Photorealism is a lot more interesting when it's not just a copy from a photograph, but an imagined/surreal subject/scene that is constructed to look real.

From an art historian's perspective: the skill and quality of mimesis - imitating the forms present in the real world - was throughout the centuries, since the times of ancient Greek and Roman civilization, the highest praised one in a work of art; the subject of paragone, artistic competition. While there always were artists not pursuing it as their main goal, only the invention of photography has changed the perspective, making realism less of a priority, opening doors to different ways of perception (...Impressionism, Post-Impressionism, and so forth). While one can argue that creativity, diversity, innovation in forming an artwork may be more interesting and valuable nowadays, the talent and skill behind the sheer ability of mimetic depiction of things is indisputable.

The first painting was mine!! Thank you so much for critiquing it, Alpay!! The paints were Gamblin but the canvas was just a cheap Arteza, so you’re absolutely right about the materials. This was my second oil painting and I am going to buy a bunch of proper quality canvases per your suggestion. Thank you!!!! ❤

I like photorealism - for me one of the main goals of fine art is to depict as close to reality as possible. It's interesting that a lot of people say "Anyone can do this", but in most cases the very people who say it can't draw at all (with or without reference).

I’m feeling quite discouraged after hearing the comment about photorealism in all honesty. I love to do cultural paintings because it makes me feel close to my culture, I do change the subjects in some way when I paint them but I feel like saying it requires the least skill is massively discouraging to artists. Not everyone likes fantasy or Impressionism, and just because someone includes more brush strokes doesn’t make them more skilled than someone that paints more realistically. It’s just a different style of art. One might be more creative but certainly not more or less skilled in painting

I started into art really pushing myself to achieve hyper photorealism, but then as time went on I started yearning to bring more paint strokes into my work and started going away from it. There is something about the movement created by brush strokes that makes a work feel more “alive” that hyper photorealism and photographs just don’t do.

I'm just gonna preface this by explaining that I'm a graduate from a fine arts university, however I do not paint in a photorealistic style myself. I think I get what you were trying to say; that photorealism is not a creatively challenging art style because its often copying a photograph. Please correct me if I made the wrong conclusion. To a certain extent I agree with you; if you're simply copying a photograph, pixel by pixel, then it essentially requires less creative thought than a paint by numbers kit. However, with that being said, photorealism is so much more than that, and I think its a bit unfair to dismiss it as such. In fact, one could argue that you yourself draw in a photorealist style. Of course I don't think you consider yourself a photorealistic artist, but it does raise a very valid question: where does stylization end and photorealism begin? Most people would say that photorealism is any painting that could reasonably convince a viewer that it was a photograph, even for but a moment. I also think its foolish to argue that "photorealism is the easiest" because, to be quite honest, I simply disagree. It might be the easiest for you personally, but most people have to spend a huge amount of time mastering the necessary observational skills, understanding of light, colour and shadow to make a photo-realistic piece. There is a reason why artists like Caravaggio are so famous and renowned to this day, and its not just because they were in the right place at the right time. Either way, if I were you I would hesitate to made such wide, generalizing statements about a style of art that you personally find easy. Not only is it unfair to other artists who spend decades mastering that style, but it also discourages new artists because they feel that they're bad artists when they struggle to master photorealism.

Maybe photorealism is like Sprint(running). (I do love both of them a lot.) Basically anyone can copy circles or squares, or running. It’s nothing special. But if you can copy extremely precisely, or run really fast, it could attract and impress people. Although they are just “copying/running”. Sadly there’re always people who tells them ‘it’s not art/sports’, or they even might say ‘Just use camera/vehicles’. And those people are always angry😅 But as far as the creators/runners are enjoying it, or there’re people who enjoy watching them, let’s leave them alone😅 we don’t need to criticize them.

This is what we need, genuine art critiques

Now we know why alpay always uses the paint roller as a finishing touch. Up until that point he's just painting "the easiest and least complex style" 😂

Photorealism is the lowest discipline? U kidding me? Getting photorealism perfected is one of the moste difficult styles! Anyone can slather on some acryl splotches and call it art. But drawing something so perfectly that the eye does note perceive it as drawing anymore is breathtaking. I am shocked at what some so called artists produce and dare to call themselfs artists.

Wow, that is a hot take!😁I would call accomplishing photorealism more a technical skill than a creative one but if you can use your creativity to setup the image and then capture it, I believe it is very effective depending on the subject. I, like another user stated, prefer photorealism applied to surreal or imaginary objects. To me, that makes it more magical. I can take a picture of cherries, apply a filter, and print it if I want that kind of image. Aaaaallll that being said, I like the cherries, the artist did a good job and having done it will build them toward more.

Realism isn't easy and it takes a lot of patience, hard work and very fine detail. Few people can master it like Steve Hanks and Mary Whyte. And Miriam Escofet who recently painted the Queen before she passed away. It takes a lot of more time to be precise and detailed.

Hey thats me at 13:56 ! 😁 wonderful to see your insights with everyone's work. And big thanks for the like and kind words!!! I think I mostly agree with you on photo realism. It was a great goal to aim for when I was learning the basics, but creatively it's much harder to craft something that expresses an idea/ meaning/etc

"One thing I can tell you though, it is definitely the easiest [photorealism]" As opposed to what, Alpay? Barnett Newman's blue paintings for example? How about Maurizio Cattelan's banana duck-tapped to a wall? How about some intersecting lines on a canvas by Piet Mondrian? Would you still say it's the easiest? Would you call, let's say artist Tjalf Sparnaay a hack in this case? It takes a s#!t loads of skills to create photorealism and I can't believe you don't acknowledge that 👎

Aah, the myth of "photorealism is the easiest style of painting" is a strong one, a lot of art teacher seems to think that way. Truth is each discipline as his difficulties, it's really ignorance to think it's easy, plain and simple.

I respect Alpays take on photo realism but I heavily disagree. I think artist who are able to do photo realism master something that is quite extraordinary. To look at something that’s real and capture not only itself but it’s characteristics and essence is something that is extremely impressive and takes a lot of hard work. Standing back and looking at it and seeing that your two hands created something that could be mistaken for a photo is just wow. It’s a lot of time and dedication and learning because most people who master this or want to master it don’t start off like this. It’s a lot of trial and error and growing and setbacks. All you have is the photo but the rest is up to you. Even for like colored pencil people you have to be very careful with pressure, movement, dark to light, layering, blending, Side angles etc. Its definitely not that easy. With it also needs a lot of patience. I think photorealism is truly one of the most impressive forms of art along with many more other styles. You captured realness. You’ve captured life and your two hands did that!!!!

Abstraction and realism, especially photorealism, however opposing, will always balance each-other out. Anyone who can create and help visualize it is skilled to me, every craft has levels of skill. All are appreciated here. Although if you ask my favorite art style it is usually bordering on impressionistic. Amazing patches of color.

I’m learning realism in hopes that I can slowly free hand anything I want to create

Photorealism at the bottom of all disciplines? I never heard that one before, It took me years to develop my ability to paint photorealism, and many great artists I know can't even come close to achieving it. I think you need to be more "realistic" when calling it "easy" fellah. Taking Jabs at photorealism is surely a "hot take" I feel like you know this and are looking for attention in all honestly.

I love these videos. Fun to hear you rip things apart but also helpful. I saw my painting during a scroll but you didn’t touch it. I consider myself lucky.

Always love these video I learn so much! I also prefer a painting that is a painting and not a "photo" in painting form, but I do admire the work, time and skills people put into photorealism.

Yay! He talked about my piece @12:47 and gave a great tip I didn’t notice 😁 made my day! I agree with the photorealism comment. There is more artistry in showing your perception of what you see than a copy of it. Showing what to emphasize and remove. With realism the magic is more about the time it took to create the piece than the work itself.

Photorealism is easy? How is making something look like it is a real, 3D object on a 2D surface easy? It might be a low level skill, but I wish I had it.

I have noticed that photorealistic art is never appreciated by those who do not want to bother or have failed trying. Almost always. Of course it is NOT the easiest form of art and whoever says that is ignorant. It is in fact he hardest as the artist must overcome personal distorted perception which is never easy...they must negate their own impression to render complete realism. They must paint EXACTLY what they physically see and not how they subconsciously THINK it should be which is very hard to do for most. We are continually knotted up in our own personal perceptions of things. I used to always make people about 5% rounder in the face because I secretly liked rounder faces more than angular...for about three years I was not even aware but even after that it was hard to stop and thirty years later I still catch myself doing it on occasion. These are personal impressions and directional leans that we can battle. Few even TRY and fewer mange it when they do try. I basically have a goal of photorealism for forty years and most of my work is fairly realistic (some is slightly surrealistic) but far from photorealism. I only have one piece so far that is borderline. I also have a photorealistic friend who is a master at it though he calls himself forever a student. Dru Blair. I have taken some lessons from him in the past year. It appears that he is the best in the known world for having fooled Japanese photo experts a few years back....no one else had managed that. He is very famous and was commissioned by the CIA for aviation art. He takes some criticism for his level of art but is pretty calm about it because he knows where he stands. He is quite often bashed by lazy jealous artists in public forums and threads...yet none of the bashers ever have achieved that level of talent...in fact those ones rarely have even decent art. What most forget and I have said for years, art must be done with a certain degree of skill and taste or it is not art....even according to proper dictionaries. Words have definitions for a reason. All art is expression but most expression is not art. If photorealism is SO freaking easy...tell us why realistic artists who aim for that level rarely achieve that level....they have not managed yet for an obvious reason.

There’s a glimpse of my squishmallow painting in the top right corner at 9:33 😂 Thanks for making these videos! Mixing humor with a real critique is brilliant. We all need to laugh more (and paint more!)

I respect photorealist artists as much as any other kind. I have learned a lot from them and their work can be astounding.

I don't think Alplay mentioned this, but a good method of critiquing your own work is to photograph it and then reverse the image. Often, you can immediately see if there are problems.

I agree with the "cheap canvas" part, never paint with oil on one of those! When starting, unfortunately, I have one painting finished one of those... all the colors have sunk, yet that is the smallest issue, the greatest one is that the linseed oil has entirely sipped in the fabric of the canvas that will decay it eventually. However, you will have sunken parts when doing oils on all gesso premium based canvases as well, only if that canvas is oil primed, there will not be. Varnish will help with the cheap canvas as well to bring out all the sunken parts, partly, that is why we use varnishes. I absolutely agree, never paint with oils on cheap canvases!

Looks like a lot of people are getting offended by the photo realism comment. I think “easiest” is the wrong word. It’s more of, given enough time, anyone can achieve it. In art school we had a Trompe-l'œil in pencil project. Everyone had different styles and skill levels, but when forced to try to make an exact, realistic copy a 1’x1’ collage, nearly everyone’s came out convincing. When you can continuously work the same spot over and over and over again until you have every tiny detail copied, I can understand a professional thinking that is “easy” vs trying to convey the same subject with a minimal number of deliberate strokes.

Also, would love to see you do a photo/hyper realism work just to show ppl u can rock it! I do that style occasionally and do find it CAN be pretty easy but often presents some challenges. Though I would not consider what I do that “photo” realistic as i still change things to make it “look better” or more interesting

Fight me on photorealism! :D I swear to God, most people who tell me they can paint like photorealism lack in so many areas: proportion, anatomy, value, size, the list goes on. This needs years of training, even people who learn in an atelier sometimes lack the "eyes" of an painter, as they didn't learn how to "see" right. But I guess I know where you are coming from - one lacks his own "style" if it is too realistic, but when painting with oil paint I think it is way easier to "show off" ones true style - this needs years and is way harder than simply copying a photo, I sbolutely agree with you! I mean look at paintings from Frans Hals, he was so bold with his brush strokes and people still gasp when they stay in front of his paintings. For me, I always try to achieve the most realistic drawings, but let loose when it comes to painting.

Another amazing video, Alpay! Thanks for sharing! Cheers from Brazil!

I personally find most photorealistic paintings uninteresting and I dislike the fact that the fantastically rendered details often are the very topic of the painting. Still I think it‘s easy to just see it as no better than what a home-office printer can do, because to get the colors and more importantly the tone values actually accurate is hard and takes a long time to master. These skills are also needed in realism, naturalism or digital art though which I find way more interesting.

I love your videos Efe💜thanks for inspiring us🤗

I always have to remind myself that your roasts aren't nasty... I love your "critique" and it's lovely to see some other artists works.

On photorealistic draws and paints is not easy by any means . I think any 1st grader can slop some paint on a canvas and call it art or abstract .

Me, before the video starts: I hope i'm in it this time! Me, after he starts roasting others: God, i hope i'm not in it

That’s me on 10:32 I knew you would love a chicken 🐔painting, even more fried 🍗! 😄

Good old Samuel, he’s such an amazing artist!

Subscribed for your enthusiasm for the kitty painting :)))

photorealistic art is considered to be the hardest by most, i am not a huge fan of it nor can i do it but i admire those who can pull it off...why would you say it is the easiest...

The first one, I immediately thought of Marty Feldman from Young Frankenstein lol and there he was! Freshly Dead! 😂

One of my favorite series

Paint the mini, Alpay!!!

Heck. I’m always tempted to submit something, and then I see the calibre of the other submissions… and run away. 😅 Guess I should sign up for skillshare. 😂

So I found this interesting. How do I send a specific painting for critique ? Very curious about what you would say.

I'll def tag you in some of my next paintings. I could use to be roasted. My music uploads are a mess too >

I saw some documentary or what that was about photorealism and there was an artist (years ago, I cant remember his name) which painted some T crossroad "somewhere" in US, but one side of street was totally different place then other side and in front was another street from somewhere else. Al worked great, correct reflections, shadows and so. Such type I can understand - like people doing CGI nowadays, make some new reality (lets call it that way), but copying photo is for me something weird, like reinventing wheel. I like surrealistic paintings of Salvador Dali, where even it is a bit postery/cartoony, all fits (shadows, light and so) in my eye.

Could the first one be saved with varnish?

have you tried transparent watercolor? for you which has an advantage in your career as an artist? Oil paint or Watercolor?

Sir can you make video on is oil painting, water color, acrylic paint is only way to draw (photo) realistic drawing? Can we draw realistic drawing with other medium? Like oil pastel, colored pencils or sketching?

I really enjoy your critiques.

I love these videos ❤ But Alpay, where is your cap? 😅 I’m missing it for a while now 🤔

Very talented artists ❤️

But what if we don't have the luxury to buy slightly more expensive canavs or paints? What if we only have to make do with cheap quality stuff until we get there?

Always fun! Can't wait for you to paint a mini. I've been into the hobby (Warhammer 40k) for a couple of years now, and have been looking at works of art from professionals, I assume you'll impress me just as much

All paintings are Wonderfull 👏👏👏👏👏👌👌👌👌🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

Idk why people think just because something isn't creative = easy That drawing of cherries was beyond impressive Idc

About the no happy people comment - I painted a very happy smiling baby! Great video, thanks a lot :)

I like your paintings Alpay, your works are amazing~ even i am an middle aged man, still i wanna start learning to paint. Would you give me some advices?

Which daily drawing skillshare course where you talking about again? I've been trying to find it in your videos but I simply can't remember!

Omg these videos are great 😆

Favourite artist , love your videos efe ❤

I was waiting for my turn😓 anyway, amazing video as always!

Realism is copying to me so I really don't like it much but I can appreciate the talent. The best art comes from artists who could do it, but don't. The creativity of a painting is what attracts me to it. If I wanted perfect I would take a picture.

Popped eyes one reminds me of Who Framed Roger Rabbit. I like it

Lots of people here lil upsetti spaghetti about the photo realism thing but I understand what he means. It is easy to just copy what is in front of you but, can you take whats in front of you and make it more interesting? It takes no creative or imaginative skills to do realism. I think thats why he is saying it is the easiest.

lol. I watched this and I thought, " why would I ever watch a video like this!" I was curious so I watched it. I love your take on Photo Realism. It made me laugh.

Photo realism is easy????? yeah no it is not easy

14:37 didn't get what you said but thanks for the roast 👻

"Even the pixels are pixelated here." 😂

"photorealism is the easiest and least complex style of art" "If there was a letter of disciplines, photorealism would be at the very bottom" 😭😭😭 And there is I, wanting desperatly to caputre the beauty of things, animals and people. Thinking if I capture these things of beauty, they get engrained into my mind. So that when I close my eyes I will only see the nicest of pictures in my mind. Wellp, I guess I'll stick to being an IT-dude 🤷‍♂

I never draw or paint smiling portraits, starting to this somethings wrong with me, lol

How can I submit a work for roasting?😅. I would really want to know what you would say

I prefer the portrait that was painted without reference to the profile, the first was interesting the second not interesting at all.

"Remember me Eddie!? When i looking just...Like... THIS!?"😊😂

Interesting 🔥🙌

The pic of girl you kept on thumbnail resonates one Indian actress!!! I forgot her name, but your thumbnail pic reminded me of her!!!🍂

Photo realistic paintings take skills too and I think it's a really hot take to say that it takes the least skill to make one. For me it's more tedious because there's a lot of details to include, no difficulty of simplification, and overall I just find it boring looking at photorealistic art works. You could just look at the original photograph because it's a replica. But if artists are happy making them, then good for them. Do what you wanna do

zu 4:16 - doooch, ich hatte ne lächelnde / grinsende Person gemalt, aber der Hashtag hatte nach ein paar Tagen nicht mehr funktioniert, also wurde das Bild nicht gelistet, mega ärgerlich uwu great video

When are you doing your next roast? I need to be apart of this

at 15:09 the portrait he talks about lacking paint, isn't that a digital one?

when does this roasting happen huhuhu I always miss joining

How do I submit???

These videos never go wrong

Ohhhhh finallyyyyy..

Photorealism takes a tremendous amount of skill but not much of artistic creativity. So it's more like a talent not an art.

The girl's face with very dry paint - it looks like a digital brush to me that has a uniform texture effect. We sure its physical paint?

I AGREE WITH YOU ABOUT PHOTOREALISM I’m glad someone has said it

Hilarious! 😁

👍good tips

13:49 most savage roast in this video.

I have been reading the hashtag as (roast - meal - pay)

I hate critiques of art. The poor paper and poor paint could mean something deeper. Unless you’re going for something ultra realistic, it all depends. 3:35

My topic may have already been covered so forgive me. Most artists become blind to their work after spending many hours on a project. I generally walk away for a day or two then review my work for quirks.

This vid was just not long enough.

Photorealism is funny. Art became a little more free to break away from photorealism when the camera was invented. I like hyperrealism, is that different from photorealism? Anyway, I wonder what art will look like when money doesn't matter anymore? Will it change the same way it did when the photograph was invented? I hope I get to live to see it.

Only people with talent say things are easy.. photo realistic drawings are not easy..