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Project Dream-e episode 2: body work and battery talk 

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After I disassemble the entire motorcycle while filming in stop motion, I then give a talk about battery chemistry, size, voltage, and other concepts.
I said earlier that the lithium chemistry of the battery cell is like the type of fuel (Lithium Ion is to gasoline as Lithium Iron Phosphate is to diesel) and the size of the battery, measured in Amp Hours, is like the size of the gas tank. But there's one more part to the equation that doesn't really crossover into this metaphor: the discharge rate of the battery. Maybe it could be thought of as the fuel pressure?
The discharge rate is how much current (amps) the battery can provide - instantaneously, not over time which is the capacity (amp hours). This is how strong your battery pack is and will ultimately determine how well the bike can accelerate or go up hills. And there's two measurements: continuous discharge rate and burst discharge rate.
The larger the gas tank (battery capacity, in this metaphor) is, the higher the discharge rate is. Which is why this metaphor doesn't make sense. And Li-ion and LiFePO4 have very different discharge rates - Lithium Ion being better, especially as a ratio to weight and volume. Li-ion cells are more powerful yet smaller and lighter, however they don't last as long and are more expensive than LiFePO4.
But for now let's just focus on what discharge rate I need to achieve out of my battery pack.
What has already been decided is the motor size. It is rated for 4,000 watts continuous. At 72 volts, that is 55 amps (4000/72=55). So if I want my battery pack to be matched to the motor I selected, then I need a pack that can continuously discharge 55 amps.
(I'm trying to explain it in a way that makes sense to folks who have never built an e-bike, like myself, but I hope I'm not sounding like I know what I'm talking about too much! I'm not even getting into the motor controller rating, i.e. phase amps vs battery amps, which just boggles my mind)

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Комментарии : 15   
@jimvonbaden1
@jimvonbaden1 3 года назад
Don't sweat it. Communication is not perfect, but they do deliver as advertised. I ordered on the 4th, 4kw, 205 QS with a 10" hub motor, Kelly Controller, brake kit, and it all arrived on the 20th. Great video, lots of fun to watch.
@JustinPaul1st
@JustinPaul1st 3 года назад
1st to comment.... Nice concept plan twice initiate once👍👍👍stop motion or what ever it's kinda cool.. Try and go for OEM look far as possible.... 👍👍👍🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦
@quocnguyen8814
@quocnguyen8814 2 года назад
The battery talk was really helpful - thanks!
@darrickcover2200
@darrickcover2200 3 года назад
cool video the stop motion reminds me of watching gumby as a kid looking forward to more on this bike
@bengregory2656
@bengregory2656 3 года назад
im psyched youre still posting content! followed your whole VW miata swap!
@ThisOldJalopy
@ThisOldJalopy 3 года назад
I'm about to post a little update video about the squareback today!
@joeschlotthauer840
@joeschlotthauer840 3 года назад
Love the stop motion, love the channel...
@rob180bhp5
@rob180bhp5 3 года назад
Entertaining and interesting as always
@marcbrasse747
@marcbrasse747 Год назад
Ah, info on the batteries! 👍👍👍
@joshuaplank883
@joshuaplank883 2 года назад
Great video. You're really easy to follow along too! Just wanted to say I really appreciate you going over how much current you need from the batteries and a few of those details about them! I was really confused about that stuff and what I needed
@brandonprince678
@brandonprince678 3 года назад
Really looking forward to the progress on this build! It has inspired me to think about building an e-bike. Keep up the awesome work!
@JA-dk3xc
@JA-dk3xc 2 года назад
MAN BRO.. TALKING ABOUT GOING ALL OUT.. MUCH RESPECT..BRO.. PRETTY MUCH EVERY ONE ELSE .. DO NOTHING BUT..SOME STUPID UNDER QUALITY VIDEO.. EXPECTING MILLIONS OF VIEWS.. BY COMMANDING U 2 DO SO.. THEN COMES U SER..WITH UR INCREDIBLE TALENT & HARD WORK..NOT EXPECTING.. & with EXTREMELY DIFFICULT EDITING.. not DEMANDING NOTHING. ..BUT..GETTING EVERYTHING.. ONCE AGN MUCH RESPECT..
@ThomThinnX1
@ThomThinnX1 Год назад
I am really appreciative of your attention to detail, both your aesthetic and technical process. The stop motion is super cool and ads entertainment value as well. . .however, I for one could not follow your explanation of battery dilemmas and watch the tear down of the speedo. I would much rather hear an entire segment on your approach to getting the glass off the speedo and back on in tact. Cheers
@nickmassey9104
@nickmassey9104 3 года назад
Great video,put all the controllers interact middle of the frame and turn the tank to a hollow case to hold more batteries .find some crash bars to join the top headstock area with the lower frame area
@ubong120
@ubong120 9 месяцев назад
how id he get continuous discharge rate at 90amps(3c)
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