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Project+'s New Update is Here - Who Got Hit the Hardest? 

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After four years, the long awaited Project+ 3.0 is here! With so much content and balance changes to try out, this video created by Serb & narrated by Artemis takes a look at some of the most obvious balance changes aimed to tone down some of the last version's overly powerful options.
Created by Serb: / cannibalserb
Narrated by Artemis: / femmeboiroy
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0:00 Intro
0:21 Donkey Kong
3:20 Zero Suit Samus
5:10 Lucas
7:03 Ice Climbers
10:03 Knuckles
12:04 Outro
#smashbros #projectplus #supersmashbros

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7 авг 2024

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@illford
@illford Месяц назад
they gave ZSS an ass hurtbox 😭
@szion72
@szion72 Месяц назад
"They gave ZSS an ass" fullstop, thats the change
@gamesincharacter5106
@gamesincharacter5106 Месяц назад
Ig you can say she has a ASSBOX
@ilikepizza107
@ilikepizza107 Месяц назад
My favorite part of the patch was when the devs said "it's balancing time" and then balanced all over the place
@ojeinoway6968
@ojeinoway6968 Месяц назад
Euphoria and Not Like Us as the background music is crazy😭 great video
@Leo98pm
@Leo98pm Месяц назад
Aw man... I get ic's were a menace but those nerfs seem really significant
@hughmungus99
@hughmungus99 Месяц назад
ikr, kinda sucks they halved the ledge handoff distance. Turning fair spike into a meteor should have been enough coupled with the dthrow changes
@robertfriedmann1845
@robertfriedmann1845 Месяц назад
tldr, zss hurtbox got a bbl
@EDDYSUNSHINEv2
@EDDYSUNSHINEv2 Месяц назад
LOL
@ShibuNub3305
@ShibuNub3305 Месяц назад
bbl sammy
@spaceace9103
@spaceace9103 Месяц назад
Last patch not like us
@normalperson7
@normalperson7 Месяц назад
if you were to pick a main it would probably be ice climberrrrrs
@huyphan7825
@huyphan7825 Месяц назад
That's so funny. The model overhaul to ZSS to make her thiccer was as much to make her look better as a character design (Seriously Brawl ZSS and even her first overhaul was unrealistically skinny) as it was to nerf her by giving her a bigger set of hurt boxes and spheres.
@DrCoeloCephalo
@DrCoeloCephalo Месяц назад
Who knew making women look like women was more practical?
@illford
@illford Месяц назад
yeah idk why she was so skinny she was like a stick insect
@RTU130
@RTU130 Месяц назад
Hmmm
@forestskilbred9461
@forestskilbred9461 Месяц назад
@@illford idk isn't samus supposed to be genetically altered by the chozo to make her a freakishly tall skinny human woman?
@huyphan7825
@huyphan7825 Месяц назад
@@forestskilbred9461 Let's not open that can of worms. Sammy has more cake now, which is a good thing. Especially now so our attacks won't whiff anymore
@gamesincharacter5106
@gamesincharacter5106 Месяц назад
I wonder if Lyn will ever be added in the near future or any of the scraped characters
@borkbork9541
@borkbork9541 Месяц назад
Most of the changes are pretty well thought out, but there's some outliers like reverting Marth dair to its og landing lag and nerfing Link that I don't think anybody was asking for, but I don't know for sure.
@VisaCardholder
@VisaCardholder Месяц назад
Is giving him, like, 1% less damage on one move really that bad? I guess the weight change is pretty big. But the third change they made seems like a huge buff. That's gonna make boomerang WAY safer.
@borkbork9541
@borkbork9541 Месяц назад
@VisaCardholder I mean yeah, the kb is uncompensated so it's just a flat nerf to his best kill confirm, I'd argue that's kind of a big deal. The grounded boomerang catch animation could always be avoided by shielding or being in any other animation anyway so it's not at all a buff to how much you can spam it, just a quality of life change, which while Nice is not in any way compensation to the other nerfs imo
@xMikau
@xMikau Месяц назад
The link nerf baffled me. I'm not at all competitive in P+, but was Link really strong? Didn't strike me as glaringly powerful in any capacity, and seemed less strong than toon link
@115zombies935
@115zombies935 Месяц назад
@@xMikauNo, he was a mid tier, upper half of B tier. Absolutely no idea why he got nerfed.
@jtg15115
@jtg15115 Месяц назад
WHAT IS IT THE BRAIDS?
@MyKeal
@MyKeal Месяц назад
I hurt your feelings you don’t wan work with me no more OKAY
@sethswoodruff
@sethswoodruff Месяц назад
Great video! Thanks for documenting these changes
@DrCoeloCephalo
@DrCoeloCephalo Месяц назад
I really apreciate how the dev team makes really well thought out small changes to top tiers. I despise how main series Smash thinks gutting and overnerfing previously successful characters is effective game design when it just makes the characters less fun on almost all angles. Wario had some tweaks to grab knockback growth and Waft body hitbox knockback. Minor stuff that I can live with because the character and his combo options remain fun.
@nateinman1
@nateinman1 Месяц назад
They literally removed all of the tools for one of the game’s top tiers lmao get out 💀
@DrCoeloCephalo
@DrCoeloCephalo Месяц назад
@@nateinman1 If they removed "literally all", then that would require the character to not be in the game anymore. The character still exists in the game. That is not what those words mean. Maybe you should get out and get a dictionary.
@nateinman1
@nateinman1 Месяц назад
@@DrCoeloCephalo Ohhh so he’s a smartass :D
@PME_FGC
@PME_FGC Месяц назад
In most cases with main smash titles, they'll also nerf the low tiers every patch even if they're bottom 3 (Little Mac)
@Retr0_ADHD
@Retr0_ADHD Месяц назад
@@nateinman1 "Ohhhh so he's a smartass" or maybe he's right and you can't think of anything else to say
@Prod_Venny
@Prod_Venny Месяц назад
yea I'm sticking to pm 3.0
@AllBladesCut
@AllBladesCut Месяц назад
Surprised you didn’t touch on sonic, basically only nerfs this patch huh.
@115zombies935
@115zombies935 Месяц назад
Seems like all the changes were nerfs. The game got brought down a lot.
@sean77408
@sean77408 Месяц назад
So excited for this update, btw You got anywhere we can donate to get you a better microphone??
@ameliabaroni2650
@ameliabaroni2650 Месяц назад
Man, they nerfed most of the cast. I want to play the new update, but I'm afraid the devs will nerf me too
@mstipak
@mstipak Месяц назад
W BACKGROUND MUSIC
@Emerald3ME
@Emerald3ME Месяц назад
I hope we get rollback!
@GetOffMyLog
@GetOffMyLog Месяц назад
The team working on brawlback is reportedly making headway!
@surfingraichu7594
@surfingraichu7594 Месяц назад
Personally love all the changes, feels more justified using the previously busted characters even amongst my less skilled friends. Hoping for volleyball singles & doubles in 4.0🤞costumes & music has never been P+’s strongest suit tho but I can always figure out how to replace that myself I guess👍
@bibbyboxx2219
@bibbyboxx2219 Месяц назад
Great video!!
@gio_setsuna
@gio_setsuna Месяц назад
Question where can I grab P+ for dolphin and anyone have good recommendations on downloading legacy XP as well?
@_fudgepop01
@_fudgepop01 Месяц назад
Fantastic video :3
@notswush
@notswush Месяц назад
they not like us
@ailurophilekia6565
@ailurophilekia6565 Месяц назад
I just watched a video of yours from 2 weeks ago with high quality audio. Now I'm watching a video from 1 week ago and suddenly it's difficult to understand what you're saying. What happened?
@CannibalSerb
@CannibalSerb 29 дней назад
We’re a team with different editors and narrators, assuming the “you” is referring to this channel lmao
@ailurophilekia6565
@ailurophilekia6565 29 дней назад
@@CannibalSerb Oh that makes sense. You know I noticed the way this narrator spoke was very different from the last one but I assumed I was imagining it.
@sikeyouthought2484
@sikeyouthought2484 Месяц назад
Sonic definitely got hit the hardest. Nerfs all over, on stage and recovery. They went a little too overboard with the nerfs and now UP B is pretty broken (not in a good way) lot of weird ass bias going around with the devs sadly…
@CannibalSerb
@CannibalSerb Месяц назад
Sonic was an HM in the original script lmao
@BobbyBasketball19999
@BobbyBasketball19999 Месяц назад
playing Euphoria in the background lmfao
@stargazersdance
@stargazersdance Месяц назад
When
@JHarrisBrass
@JHarrisBrass Месяц назад
They not like us*
@BobbyBasketball19999
@BobbyBasketball19999 Месяц назад
@@JHarrisBrass I didn’t even get that far yet hahaha, Euphoria played right before
@tonythejhit7104
@tonythejhit7104 Месяц назад
how can I get plus?
@CannibalSerb
@CannibalSerb Месяц назад
RIP to my hammer children
@CarterShaw
@CarterShaw Месяц назад
They massacred them
@melee9183
@melee9183 Месяц назад
Still waiting for the gamecube adapter overclock to work. :(
@A1AION
@A1AION Месяц назад
Euphoria beat lol
@vehemore
@vehemore Месяц назад
making zss thiccer ain't a nerf that's a buff in my opinion
@Rammy_Latin
@Rammy_Latin Месяц назад
So true 🙏🏾
@MrStroodle
@MrStroodle Месяц назад
Without my girl Lyn and my boy Isaac, the vision will never be fulfilled 😭
@CrapMyHat
@CrapMyHat Месяц назад
Better yet just add Waluigi.
@B.27y
@B.27y Месяц назад
No Buffs?
@ordeosca
@ordeosca Месяц назад
netplay combos 9 mention
@CannibalSerb
@CannibalSerb Месяц назад
Legit saved me so much time shoutout Chaloopy
@Bellulaa
@Bellulaa Месяц назад
hell yeah
@xeonthecow8411
@xeonthecow8411 Месяц назад
3:32 omg is this the euphoria beat
@superflameking03
@superflameking03 Месяц назад
I feel like Knuckles shouldn't have his glide and spring. Maybe he should have a new up special that doesn't help too much with recovery since his glid is broken. It could be a flaming uppercut!
@Beastmd
@Beastmd Месяц назад
Can you make a video on buffs next?
@CannibalSerb
@CannibalSerb Месяц назад
The buffs in this patch were much more in the margins, not sure they’re exciting or significant enough for a full video But I’ll consider it 🤔
@henrybitencourt
@henrybitencourt Месяц назад
i wish you guys buff the weaker characters so they can keep up more often
@patrickrolens
@patrickrolens Месяц назад
Patch 4.0 when?
@javi994
@javi994 Месяц назад
Give it another 4 years 😂
@Boilerguydave
@Boilerguydave Месяц назад
Did they add roll back?
@runaway74
@runaway74 Месяц назад
Not yet, probably not for another year or two
@JoeSmith-db4rq
@JoeSmith-db4rq Месяц назад
But still no Zelda buffs 😔 Nah jk jk haha - super stoked to see the changes and I love the format you used to explain the effects and purpose behind the changes :)
@GurimuAU
@GurimuAU Месяц назад
She did get buffed a little bit. The vertical speed of Din's Fire was increased.
@kirbycardenas-vo8mj
@kirbycardenas-vo8mj Месяц назад
I know the beat the background
@KoopaKingBowser
@KoopaKingBowser Месяц назад
There better been a bowser buff 🤬
@onepieceguyz9960
@onepieceguyz9960 Месяц назад
He got A buff
@superlukas1368
@superlukas1368 Месяц назад
Mario got nerf 😢
@PERSONALEEMG
@PERSONALEEMG Месяц назад
wap wap wap wap wap
@ThirdXavier
@ThirdXavier Месяц назад
Algorithm boost comment
@ln8496
@ln8496 Месяц назад
Dks dash grab untouched. Dumb
@gnarly814
@gnarly814 Месяц назад
ZSS nerfs kinda feel overkill.
@CTomCooper
@CTomCooper Месяц назад
From what I remember with using her she was just very solid all around, but didn’t feel as technically strict or precise as other characters in order to do well. Though I say that as a Captain Falcon main who came from Melee, so it might be my biases there.
@alejandrovasquez4948
@alejandrovasquez4948 Месяц назад
What I find kind of frustrating about these changes is that the only top tier hit was zss. The rest as just high tiers with powerful but not broken traits
@115zombies935
@115zombies935 Месяц назад
A bunch of mid tiers got nerfed too for some strange reason
@RosalinaSama
@RosalinaSama Месяц назад
meta knight got nerfed a fair amount
@xtinaxendrix
@xtinaxendrix Месяц назад
sonic, wolf, dk, knuckles, sheik, mk, falcon and lucario all got hit at least a bit
@Heyim18bro
@Heyim18bro Месяц назад
rip pikachu
@CannibalSerb
@CannibalSerb Месяц назад
Pikachu was net buffed this patch lmao, all his worst matchups got hit hard
@Heyim18bro
@Heyim18bro Месяц назад
@@CannibalSerb how bout just buff my man?
@noobtuber10
@noobtuber10 Месяц назад
Synch side b with icies works that way in melee though
@CannibalSerb
@CannibalSerb Месяц назад
Yeah it’s still a nerf from what it used to be though
@2000xmegaman
@2000xmegaman 25 дней назад
Add shadow 😭
@superstro2225
@superstro2225 Месяц назад
They Not Like Us playing while Knuckles is on is so perfect 😂
@Anthony-zl7yz
@Anthony-zl7yz Месяц назад
To anyone crying about the nerfs, I think p+ desperately needed this. I feel like p+ and pm can be frustrating for melee players to play since a lot of the combo routes and options are way easier and often times free (ie the many grab kill confirms). Like low and mid teirs in melee required a lot of work arounds to their lack of options that make them fun to explore and extremely hype to watch in bracket. When I see the same knuckles combo a million times in tournaments it gets old. I think these nerfs are actually quite amazing, it almost feels like they had a vision to de-homogenize the consistant playstyle of every (higher tier) character, and give them a chance to be diversified and explored. I think watching characters like lucas and knuckles will be much more interesting now because people will have to change up how they play the same character rather than all doing the same things.
@z-leigh6554
@z-leigh6554 Месяц назад
Changing magnet pressure was indeed good. This way there's a reason to at least alternate between magnet and djc on shield
@surfingraichu7594
@surfingraichu7594 19 дней назад
@@Anthony-zl7yz yeah, I think they’re trying to tone down the braindead overly powerful stuff half the cast has had so far. There’s less time for neutral and defense when top tiers touch you and you die, every character being Fox is not fun so I think the changes were great and no character got destroyed or anything like a lot of people in this comment section cries about.
@Anthony-zl7yz
@Anthony-zl7yz 19 дней назад
@@surfingraichu7594 agreed 😤😤
@paz8723
@paz8723 Месяц назад
Random ass DK nerfs
@freddiesimmons1394
@freddiesimmons1394 Месяц назад
Random how
@115zombies935
@115zombies935 Месяц назад
Everyone is getting nerfed for some reason. Just another reason to play PM over P+ it seems
@freddiesimmons1394
@freddiesimmons1394 Месяц назад
@@115zombies935 or you could be objective instead of fall victim to loss aversion. The better game isnt just the one with the stronger, more extreme characters. Ugh
@115zombies935
@115zombies935 Месяц назад
@@freddiesimmons1394 Nah, making everyone less fun to play and reducing the depth of the game across the board with universal changes on top of it all ain’t it. Definitely isn’t gonna help revive the game that’s for sure.
@freddiesimmons1394
@freddiesimmons1394 Месяц назад
@@115zombies935 aw its only fun if your character is better? Instead of balanced? Maybe after your balls drop you'll see that games are not about power maxing
@Mufflin
@Mufflin Месяц назад
knuckles nerfs? L
@115zombies935
@115zombies935 Месяц назад
Disappointing patch IMO. Nerfs across the board.
@Brob2nd
@Brob2nd 16 дней назад
Keeo getting 'emotional' over nerfs to your characters lol
@115zombies935
@115zombies935 16 дней назад
@@Brob2nd Looks like you took the L on that comment 😂
@Unnkxn0wn
@Unnkxn0wn Месяц назад
Who even plays this lol
@mikehasfallen
@mikehasfallen Месяц назад
A lot of people.
@hassoncarmon5779
@hassoncarmon5779 Месяц назад
Me
@Brob2nd
@Brob2nd 16 дней назад
Many, many people, and if you think i'm lying and nobody plays it, well, i'm the only person that plays P+ then
@BlackFrog24
@BlackFrog24 23 дня назад
I like how modern tourneys have pronouns next to the players names as if I couldn’t tell that was a dude lmao
@GetOffMyLog
@GetOffMyLog Месяц назад
Great video!
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