PROMETHEUS: Making Death a Victory | Nietzsche

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Prometheus is a Titan from Greek mythology who stole fire to help humanity, and was violently punished for this by Zeus.
The figure of Prometheus, and his story, has served as inspiration for artists and philosophers for centuries.
For Goethe, Prometheus was a champion of mankind who, in his defiance of Zeus, exemplified mankind's growing to maturity as we reach Enlightenment and mankind starts to defy the Christian God just like Prometheus did Zeus.
For Lord Byron, Prometheus was the exemplar of a person who finds something in life worth dying for. For his transgression and theft of the fire, he was chained to a rock for all eternity as a vulture gnaws at his liver daily. Yet Prometheus undergoes his punishment with stoicism, and knows that ultimately, despite his suffering and pain, he had given his life a purpose beyond himself: alleviating the suffering of others by granting mankind knowledge. Byron's message is that we should all find something that makes us want to bear the vulture and the chain.
Finally, Nietzsche saw in the Prometheus myth the origin story of Western civilization, contrasted with the Biblical origin story of Adam and Eve. Prometheus brings knowledge to mankind through fire, just as Adam and Eve brought knowledge through the fruit. But this knowledge, in both stories, comes at a cost. For Adam and Eve, it meant banishment from paradise and original sin for mankind. For Prometheus, it meant the vulture, and the knowledge of the suffering of the world for mankind.
Thus Prometheus continues to speak to the imagination of many different artists and eras who each find in his story another lesson we inherit, but ultimately the overarching lesson is this: the price for our knowledge as human beings, is that we become aware of the suffering of the world. And it's up to us to learn how to deal with that.

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@WeltgeistYT 29 дней назад

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@salilswapnamay2986 24 дня назад

Please make an analytical video on Zapffe. Specially, on "The Last Messiah". Additionally, Mainländer, Leopardi, Shestov, Cioran, Benatar can be explored.

@realfirewaltz 29 дней назад

I love the play on “One must imagine Sisyphus happy”. The title killed me when I read it

@MrSzeth 29 дней назад

I would count this amongst your masterpieces, along with Nietzsche’s Mistake. Your ability to elaborate on ancient myths and philosophical writings is of the highest order. Thank you for your work.

@martydanilovski4753 29 дней назад

really good analysis of this myth, they are full of meaning, would love for you to make more videos like that

@conker690 29 дней назад

What an insanely powerful video, and just what the doctor ordered.

@scottmiller2591 29 дней назад

@GLASSB182 17 дней назад

"So, Heracles.... It's about time."

@amanofnoreputation2164 28 дней назад

An important part of the Prometheus myth was neglected in this video: Prometheus also consulted Athena, who placed a butterfuly inside the clay that became humanity, the butterfly being a symbol of the psyche and it's transformative capacity. I would argue this is far more crucial to mankind's redemptive capacity and Prometheus' happiness than the gift of fire. Technology allows man to cultivate their external circumstances but only the inner world of the _seele_ can transmute their suffering into gold. What's more starting is that Athena was born from the forehead of Zeus in a process midwived by Promethus, making her a product of the _cooperation_ between the human and the divine, rather than their antagonism. These sentiments are all facets of the divine drama. The promethean impulse, according to Nietzsche, gives life it's meaning. But it was also the pomethean impulse which killed God; which tied Zeus to an operating table to have his liver removed by science, over successive trials, to test is regenerative properties. Is Prometheus the primordial ubermensch? Or the Last Man himself? Nietzsche presented to us the Greek creation myth as a forward escape plan from nihilism.

@WeltgeistYT 27 дней назад

Great comments, thank you

@cappies0639 24 дня назад

Your comment feels Jungian in a sense. I am not very deep into Nietzsche, mythology and Jung so this might be a stretch. But I interpret from what you are saying as we should not only draw inspiration from the rebellious, unreasonable, dionysian Prometheus, and be aware of other parts of the psyche, such as the guiding wisdom of a Athena?

@republiccan7138 12 дней назад

"The truth is, everyone is going to hurt you. You just got to find the ones worth suffering for. " Bob Marley

@leonemaledetto1500 20 дней назад

I immagine Prometheus vindicated, when Heracles freed him and showed humanity was worthy.

@SenEmChannel 28 дней назад

Damm. What a video. I swear to god, i watched this video every second untill the end and i feel it. Whoa.

@kendrickjahn1261 17 дней назад

Another question comes up. Does mankind need myths in order to achieve a higher level of greatness? Do we need Gods and stories to find purpose? Do we need to justify our suffering in this way?

@flaviosoares1 14 дней назад

This is a 💎 . Thank you!

@user-we2qv1cx6x 28 дней назад

This was fantastic. Just great!

@WeltgeistYT 27 дней назад

Glad you enjoyed it!

@sonofcronos7831 28 дней назад

In most traditions, especially earlier ones, Prometheus is not the creator of mankind (we were born either of Gaia, or created by the gods in general), but still is their benefactor. We can see this is Aeschylus Prometheus Bound. The Titan god did not created humanity, but saw the injustice humans suffered, so decided to help them by giving them godly gifs. I prefer these versions, since he had no reason to help humanity, but still did it anyway.

@adamfilmmaker 19 дней назад

Another masterpiece.

@Raskolnikovsburden 19 дней назад

EVERYTHING, suffering teaches you every lesson you will ever learn, hug it close and you will realize that suffering has always been love . Genuinely that which nurtures growth

@fm-kp3qj 29 дней назад

you almost outdid yourself this time. Very good job indeed...

@kalamala13151 28 дней назад

I think they have much more in common than you cautiously laid out. Eve stole a bite of the forbidden apple. It didn't belong to her, and she was told not to eat it. Can anyone own fire for it to be stolen? A sin against God and a crime against Zeus are the same thing. Both of these myths / stories point is the same and it's about keeping us in our place. It's about obedience. However, on an even deeper level they are even more than that. Eve and Prometheus motivations are also basically the same. Eve wanted to better herself and her husband and Prometheus wanted to better humans. Deeper still, it was probably motivated by love; love of oneself and love of others. How else other than the highest motivation (love) can you explain disobeying God or Zeus when you live face to face with them other unless you just say they were rebellious, flawed, tricked or temporarily out of their minds (which doesn't really make sense based on the punishments)? No, both myths / stories originally and somewhat ironically were supposed to teach us of the highest virtue of love above all things even at facing horrible suffering for doing so. However, it seems it was changed to champion knowledge as our highest virtue and the suffering of daring to better ourselves or others without permission.

@yomamashouse711 29 дней назад

Never Disappoints worth the wait

@cappies0639 24 дня назад

This video came right after I read Sorrows of Young Werther, and came across the poem of Prometheus by Goethe. Love learning about these myths and references from Iliad.

@user-pt8mu9wg3i 20 дней назад

and is "chainsed" to a rock . love the accent , great presentation . subbed . cheers .

@amanofnoreputation2164 29 дней назад

I see what you did there.

@Williamaster369 26 дней назад

Goethe's poem is wonderful!

@Endymion766 25 дней назад

Another great upload, thank you. I dont believe there is any meaning in suffering. I also hope I'm wrong. Either way, I still get to have coffee and donuts. That's good enough.

@fratbarsmeric901 28 дней назад

Any video that contains GOAThe is a banger

@jtcornpone 29 дней назад

imagining prometheus happy is just a sophisticated form of denial........silenus spoke the truth

@myselfapretend 29 дней назад

Are they really so mutually exclusive? Sounds like a two dimensional form of happiness you are invoking.

@RandomPerson28337 25 дней назад

Not denial but acceptance.

@nolancoates4856 20 дней назад

Very interesting 👀 🕵️‍♂️💯🙂🧐

@fratbarsmeric901 28 дней назад

What are the names of these paintings?

@tonyspamoni5641 27 дней назад

banger

@Fronzel41 29 дней назад

What of the fact that in the course of this famous Twelve Labors, Heracles is said to FREED Prometheus?

@ViVeriVniversvmVivusVici 29 дней назад

Are you familiar with Jason Reza Jorjani's works like Prometheism, Prometheus and Atlas, and Lovers of Sophia? Thoughts?

@WeltgeistYT 29 дней назад

Can't say I am sadly

@ViVeriVniversvmVivusVici 29 дней назад

@@WeltgeistYT probably for the better. Thanks for responding.

@kalamala13151 28 дней назад

Respectfully, I would offer Sophia is wisdom and Logos would be closer to knowledge as these myths / stories are talking about.

@raucousriley143 29 дней назад

Lol I didn't listen yet, but didn't you pick the least popular thumbnail choice from the comments?

@WeltgeistYT 29 дней назад

I didn't know but apparently RU-vid now has a function to do A/B testing on thumbnails... So it tests out the thumbnails by itself - you happened to see the less popular one, others will see the different one. Then RU-vid decides which one performed the best

@raucousriley143 29 дней назад

@WeltgeistYT Interesting, I thought it looked liked you had posted it. Looking forward to listening to this later

@JaMeXDDD 29 дней назад

@@WeltgeistYT That's crazy. Whoever thought of that function needs a raise.

@ViVeriVniversvmVivusVici 29 дней назад

He held a poll like a year ago about ancient Greece being violent and picked the least popular option. No a/b testing back then. I don't understand why he does it. We are already subbed when engaging in the community tab. He's preaching to the choir.

@WeltgeistYT 29 дней назад

@@ViVeriVniversvmVivusVici I didn't pick the least popular option

@amanofnoreputation2164 28 дней назад

Gothe would never have emphasized Prometheus' sacrifice because it would have likened him to Christ.

@WeltgeistYT 27 дней назад

Great point!

@Lighty-jz2gm 29 дней назад

15:26 why 'Jehovah'? That's an outdated misinterpretation of the Hebrew YHWH/JHVH (ayin-he-waw-he) as it's more likely to be 'Yahweh'/'Jahve' 15:54 where did you get the notion of immortality being taken from humans from?

@ourdivinemouseoverlord3308 29 дней назад

In regards to the second question, Adam and Eve were immortal as long as they refrained from eating the forbidden fruit. God even warned them not to do it because they would surely die if they did.

@Lighty-jz2gm 29 дней назад

@@ourdivinemouseoverlord3308 That's just a very specific interpretation of the Sefer Bereshit in regards to 2:17 and 3:3 (maybe a few others such as the Epistle to the Hebrews 2:14-15) contradicted by 2:9 and 3:22.

@virgilcaine3291 29 дней назад

What differentiates this from Gnosticism?

@PaulSpades 29 дней назад

Not much, as far as I can tell.

@kalamala13151 28 дней назад

I would propose this is talking about Logos or knowledge and Gnosticism saw Sofia or wisdom as a higher virtue in general.

@virgilcaine3291 27 дней назад

@kalamala13151 Dead, nineteenth century, enlightened white guys trying to comfort themselves with their decisions about adopting Modernity. Now, the post modernist are trying to comfort themselves after rejecting science as the truth giver and justify their nihilism.

@BrownieMiyamoto 25 дней назад

Your question should be, What differentiates this from Christianity?? Nothing. It’s same stories told from different perspectives/cultures.

@PaulSpades 25 дней назад

@@BrownieMiyamoto Lavey's church of satan has more in common with the myths and traditions around Prometheus rather than Christianity. As do luciferians. And masons. How do I know? I'm an orthodox christian, and I'm less ignorant than you.

@OlavEngelbrektson 26 дней назад

Any analysis of Prometheus which does not include the account of Prometheus being freed by Herakles is in my eyes a bad one. Redemption is both possible and necessary.

@YoursThatWas 26 дней назад

Zeus was right.

@BinanceUSD 29 дней назад

No god

@benquinneyiii7941 29 дней назад

Hetzer Famous French 75

@Jason-ms8bv 27 дней назад

🔥Vs 🙊🙉🙈

@P.Aether 29 дней назад

I think people are romanticizing these myths too much to make it about them (the artist or philosopher), trying to cope somehow by bending logic and meaning and whatnot. Are you people insane? Eternal torture doesn't have any meaning or happiness... ITS ETERNAL TORTURE! There is no way to be happy or purposeful in this endeavor. Imagination is not reality, you can imagine flying, but you will never be able to spread your bare arms and fly like a bird. I think people want somehow to have hope and meaning for others suffering, because their brains can't comprehend the horrific torture, so they cope by subconsciously coping with the reality and just go with their day - "Oh this guy that is forever climbing a mountain? Yeah at least he has nice muscles... What's for dinner? Leave me alone idc! What are we gonna eat?"

@myselfapretend 29 дней назад

Lol you have such a painfully literal and reductive reading of these things, so no wonder you react this way.

@cyriacus73 29 дней назад

I FEEL THE SAME WAY... imagine Sisyphus happy? it's torture for a reason, maybe he rationalizes some meaning in this endless torture and tries to convince himself that his WILL is a defiance to the gods but well MEANING DOES NOT EQUATE HAPPINESS, anyways ask yourself... what does it mean to be happy?

@Aliocha777 29 дней назад

@@cyriacus73 why do you keep on living?

@mithunbalaji8199 29 дней назад

You don't have to justify living without a meaning. Whether the meaning with which you associate causes happiness or not alone matters but in most cases, perception of lack any apparent meaning is associated with mental anguish and suffering and we search for meaning to escape it

@seraphim6245 29 дней назад

And yet masochists exist….

@1995yuda 18 дней назад

My friend, you have been fed lies, and now you pass them on as truth. You and the sources you have mentioned all mis Interpret the Genesis narrative entirely. The Greek one also. You have failed to grasp the subject matter. Why don't you let go of what you've been told and start thinking for yourself?

@raymond_sycamore 29 дней назад

All of you "wise philosophers" strive so ardently to believe in absolutely nothing at all! What a waste! God DO something!

@sonofcronos7831 28 дней назад

No one believes more in nothingness than christians.

@jeromeskaff3017 29 дней назад

no more philosophy the only philosophy we need is the philosophy of jesus christ about how we are sinners evil we reject his love and word and how he the perfect sacrifice wants us to be happy and he has washed our sins and given us the gift of eternal life listen brother i just want to tell you in your dark times pray to Jesus he changed my life i am under his grace and mercy know the lord and you won t regret i promise brother glory to the lord ✝✝✝✝✝✝☦☦☦☦☦☦☦✝✝