Proof of Eternal Security? 

Yep. If you are TRULY saved, you’ll never be lost again! You’ll have ups and down in your walk, but will always remain faithful.

True but not true. That's why we have an apostate Church age today, it was prophesied to happen. The Bible don't pass on the thought, OH , THEY WEREN'T SAVED IN THE FIRST PLACE. Those people in the new testament that turned back, WERE SAVED IN THE FIRST PLACE. THEY HAD FREEWILL TO TURN BACK ALSO.

@@Mr.MacMan We are faithful BECAUSE God is faithful always to us His children. Hallelujah for THAT!

If you turn away and enjoy living in sin you were never truely convinced in Christ and Baptized In the Holy Spirit,because we are literally a new creation ,heart and mind 🙏🏻♥️

@@TS.CHICAGO4GOD that's extra!!!! So the formula is: you gotta turn away AND enjoy it??? 🤔🤔🤔

The Church apostate age, has brought forth a lot of people like that. Five out of seven Churches are apostate today, we see this in the book of Revelation chapters 2 and 3. You can be saved and fall away, you can be saved and not fall away. You can get your salvation back too.

If a person is a sheep, what does Jesus say about them? He says there is no possibility of perishing.

@@smartchristians And Jesus has clearly defined who His sheep is. Many come to Him, but end up abandoning Him and going back to a lifestyle of sin, thereby losing their salvation - unless they REPENT. 2 Peter 2:20-22 says, "For if, after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the latter end is worse for them than the beginning."

Corey my brother. YOU ARE WRONG. LISTEN TO DAVID PAWSON's teaching on that. You will be educated. I have many times told you that you are wrong. The liberty in Christ, is freedom to choose, reject or accept. Listen to apostle Paul's teaching on consistency in walking with God and the consequences of falling away or behind.

You are wrong on that

The text is true, but that just looking at it from one side. The Bible show people that walked away from God, they turn back to the present world. Freewill will allow you to walk away from God, and simply lose your salvation. Breaking down words, explaining it in the Greek or Hebrew, it must be explain in the confines of scripture, with holy Spirit interpretation. THATS THE TRUE STANDARD , THE BIBLE TELLS THAT.

@@contendingforthefaith9897 Explaining it in Greek and Hebrew IS in line with Scripture as it was written in Greek with the audience being Jews. Those that walked away were NEVER believers to begin with. Jesus warned of these people, that HE NEVER KNEW them. It is God that does the sealing preserving. Salvation is 100% God's Grace and work, not humans.

Why did Peter repent and seek forgiveness after denying Christ, but Judas did not? Peter was saved, Judas was not. Can someone who is truly saved apostate and then repent, returning to the faith? Yes, if they are truly saved, they will always come back. Jesus said He won’t lose even one that The Father gave Him, that means that once you’re saved you’re forever in His hand!!! Romans 8:38-39 (ESV) 38 For I am sure that neither death nor life, nor angels nor rulers, nor things present nor things to come, nor powers, 39 nor height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord.

@@davisbelas3516 One word will ... and it will not be by God's own doing... but it is *going to be by man's own doing* . . . GOD always spoke 2 things in Scriptures: 1 All His CLEAR Promises and 2 All His CLEAR *WARNINGS* if an angel, whose habitation was the Kingdom of Heaven... even with God, *can fall and have fallen out from God's grace* . . . what more a man? *Abiding in Him* IS A CONDITION.

​@@albertcabrerajr992Angels arent saved by grace through faith

You're saying what you think, not what the scriptures is saying. Stick to what God says.

You are making a logical fallacy in that you are arguing that free will gives you authority over God. That's ridiculous. God is not willing that ANY should perish, and yet many will. Is their free will greater than God's will that they don't perish? No.

@@TheMeefive I am saying my free will gives me no authority. I'm also not speaking for those who are or will perish. I am speaking for the saved and sealed and elect of God alone.

@@majormayco I did , and so do all people who believe in the gospel given to Paul. There is an old testament and good news to the Jews, and there is a NEW testament and good news to anyone who would believe. That is 2 true gospels. One is without the finished work of the cross by faith and works to the Jews. The 2nd was and NEW, BETTER, UNKNOWN, MYSTERY gospel that the apostles never heard of. They did convert in time to Pauls gospel. Paul call this NEW UNKNOWN gospel His gospel. I am saved by Pauls Gospel given to him by the risen Christ. If Satan knew about Pauls gospel and the cross work of Jesus Christ, Satan would have never wanted Christ to die on the cross. NONE of the Apostles that walked with Christ believed by faith that he rose from the dead at all by faith in Christ's words. They walked by site and proof and signs and wonders. That was just fine too. That is when salvation was of the Jews. Mat Mark Luke John James knew nothing of the cross work of Jesus Christ at all. They were interested in the Kingdom on earth. John 3:16 even says NOTHING to the Jews about the Cross at all. They didn't know about it.

@@orangeandslinky Everything you're saying is just hogwash, wrought from acute lack of knowledge of everything in the scriptures. You're just puffed up in your imaginations, without even a vestige of revelation of the word of God. Mature up and grow in wisdom and understanding.

They don't, they think they help God with the salvation by what they do.

Ironic that you said " on a logical level" and then said something that is scriptural illogical. " He knew what sins we would commit and will still hang on to us through our walk." False. He knew what sins we would commit as Christians and said "IF we confess our sins He is faithful and just to forgive our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness. " If we don't confess he won't forgive nor cleanse us. "Shall we continue in sin? God forbid. "

So you're saying as a Christian you don't sin anymore?

​@@TheMeefive So HAVE YOU confessed EVERY single one of your sins since you became a Christian? Of course not. That verse is not threatening a loss of salvation. That verse is about the Christian walk, the struggles, what to do when we sin and grieve God our Father. The santification process. That verse is not implying we lose our salvation.

100% spot on. It’s usually a pride issue. A lot of these ppl do not see the sin in their own life therefore they almost root for for ppl losing their salvation as they see their “sin” but negate their own. They think it’s to easy and don’t like that there’s people they deem sinful who are still saved. We should be all be soooo thankful that you can’t lose it.

It was Jesus who said "Whosoever does not BEAR HIS CROSS and COME AFTER ME CANNOT BE MY DISCIPLE." And then he gave a lesson on counting the cost. We are in a covenant relationship. If you're not keeping your end God won't keep you. That's neither pride nor arrogance; that's scripture.

That's quite ignorant thinking. Take time to study the scriptures. 2 Peter 2:20-22 says, "For if, after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the latter end is worse for them than the beginning."

@@JesusLovesYou12z wasn’t that one of satan’s main objections or accusations? How could a holy and just God allow sinners and law breakers to enter Heaven? The book of Job? There are only one of two spirits at work here. Either you are filled with the Holy Spirit, or you are being influenced by the spirit of the accuser. Can’t be both, we can’t serve two masters.

@@TheMeefive Adam was in a covenant of works and did not keep up his end of it. God would’ve been just to send Adam and everyone after him to hell, but He offered a covenant of grace. (Genesis 3:15) God showed Adam mercy and promised a way for humanity to be saved/reconciled back to God. The covenant of grace is unconditional and only for the elect. God’s chosen portion that He redeemed before the foundations of the world. The covenant of redemption was between God The Father, God The Son, and God The Holy Spirit. All that’s required of us to be saved under the covenant of grace is faith in Christ alone for the glory of God alone…and even that faith is a free gift from God so that none may boast. Do you really think God would predestine His elect but leave it up to us to obtain or maintain His Salvation? Some argue that it’s not fair, why did God choose some but not others? Fair would’ve been nobody being set apart for salvation, we all pay the penalty for our sins. Nobody really wants what’s fair, if we truly understand the biblical doctrine of total depravity then all we want is mercy and grace. Our only hope rests in Christ, not in our works or our “free will”. Amen.

Judas was never saved. If you find everything the scriptures say about him, you find he was a thief who never repented and believed, “the son of perdition.” Even in the end, rather than humbling himself with trust in God for forgiveness, he usurped God’s right to judge, by taking his own life. Watch out for straw man arguments that use what unsaved people do as examples of what saved people might do. False converts can fool you into thinking they’re real converts. But we don’t know the hearts. God isn’t fooled.

Works cannot save you. Not having security and constantly worrying about losing your salvation is an atrocious way to live. There’s no peace or joy in that.

Amen

Those who truly have accepted Christ will always remain faithful to the end that’s why Jesus doesn’t lose none of his sheep. Judas Iscariot was called but was never a real sheep as in saved which Jesus also points out. So nobody can say that Judas received salvation and was a real sheep. Many are called but few are chosen. There’s hundreds of people that go to church on Sunday and profess to be Christian and followers of Christ and are not but are just playing the part as a true sheep but are not, claiming salvation but having not truly received it. As John states that they went out from us to show they weren’t all of us. So the point is just because you have someone seeming to be a part of Gods sheep and proclaiming Christ doesn’t mean anything, those who turn away never truly had him. As Jesus says his sheep is not going to go to a voice of any stranger. Therefore you can know that anyone who has turned away to something else and away from Christ were not truly his, and therefore they were never truly saved. The gifts and calling of God is without repentance the word says, therefore once it’s given there’s no take backs from God. Salvation is a forever gift to those who received it and know they are saved. For example how do I know that I’m saved? Because of the Spirit in me, and I know I’m always going to follow Christ no matter what, no one or nothing can persuade me against that. Every Christian can know that, like Paul says I know whom I have believed. You think it was possible for anyone to persuade any of the apostles that what they believed regarding Jesus was not the truth? No , and that’s how every Christian should be, fully knowing what they believe and that they cannot be removed away from it. That’s why it’s important to be established in knowing the truth of the word

Jesus knew from the very beginning that Judas was not a believer. John 6:70 70 Jesus answered them, "Did I not choose you, the twelve? And yet one of you is a devil." Although Judas fooled the other disciples, Jesus always knew Judas would betray him. You believe your faith and obedience will save you? How much faith and obedience do you need? Do you have enough now? How can YOU know you have enough faith and obedience? The Gospel is that GOD is the one that secures our salvation. NOt humans.

Well who do you think is working in Brother Corey? He uses two of the common languages of biblical times to give an even more accurate and deeper understanding of the text. It seems as if you’re saying he’s taking credit for his knowledge and not giving glory to Christ. I may be wrong but if I am my apologies 🙏🏾❤️

@@Tizzleee I’m simply repeating the point that Paul made in 1 Corinthians 2, which is, the Bible is the wisdom of God in a mystery; And, the Holy Spirit is the only one who can unlock it. The princes of this world knew Hebrew and Greek, but they didn’t know the wisdom of God, because the only way of knowing it, is through God’s Holy Spirit. So then, we should be careful not to put our faith in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.

Dustman-Conviction automatically comes from the Holy Spirit if one is a child of God, don’t worry about other people, pray for others, there are to many sin pickers out there.

Sinners are the only ones comforted in sin.

The problem with your statement lies in the fact that God loves everybody. "For God so loved the world" Anybody can reject God's love. In fact Jesus predicted that in the last days, because iniquity shall abound the love(agape) of many will gradually grow cold. Only Christians can experience the agape love because it is spread abroad in our hearts at conversion. Sinners never had agape so it's impossible for it to gradually grow cold in sinners.

Do you even know what that verse is talking about? The people who are in hell, are they there because God hates them? What you don't know is that God doesn't even hate the devil.

@@majormayco God has JUST anger against the devil and the people in hell. That is why they are in hell.

@@TheMeefive Loving everyone has nothing to do with saving everyone, he loves Israel but right now they are under a spirit of stupor until the fullness of the gentiles come in, they are blinded to the gospel and those that die before their eyes are opened are lost, He will have mercy on whom he will have mercy, not my words, God said it, it is not the way I see it, it is what he said. This is the reason he spoke in parables, "It is not for them to know", If I speak plainly they would repent" Jesus said this not John Calvin.

Thank you

If we don't grow in salvation we will stunted, not as good of a christian as we should be, but you cannot stop being a christian because Jesus said you can't and none of those things that you do are the reason you became a christian. In addition God will work a work. For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, And scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.

@@kgar5String I have to disagree with you on defining not growing in salvation as meaning being “stunted”. Defining or understanding what it means to not grow in your salvation is not even debatable as Peter CLEARLY quantifies what this means in the subsequent verses (1 Peter 2:11-25).

@@kgar5Stringalso, we are admonished to grow in our salvation because as Peter states, the repercussions of not growing in salvation leads to sin ( 1 Peter 2:11). Furthermore, Peter expounded on this discussion in his second letter to those of the same faith as his, whom accepted Jesus and were baptized in his name 2 Peter 2:1-3) Peter than speaks on all of the promises and securities that we have in our faith- 2 Peter 1:4 says: “For by these He has granted to us His precious and magnificent promises, so that by them you may become partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world by lust.”

@@kgar5String After clearly defining the audience and clearly speaking on the promises of God to Christians, Peter then warns us of the the fate of Christian’s who are not growing in their salvation and “forsook the right way” For if God did not spare angels who sinned, but cast them into the pit and delivered them to chains of darkness, being kept for judgment; - 2 Peter 2:4 For if they are overcome, having both escaped the defilements of the world by the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and having again been entangled in them, then the last state has become worse for them than the first. For it would be better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn away from the holy commandment handed on to them. The message of the true proverb has happened to them, “A dog returns to its own vomit,” and, “A sow, after washing, returns to wallowing in the mire.” - 2 Peter 2:20-22

@@kgar5String After clearly defining the audience and clearly speaking on the promises of God to Christians, Peter then warns us of the the fate of Christian’s who are not growing in their salvation and “forsook the right way” For if God did not spare angels who sinned, but cast them into the pit and delivered them to chains of darkness, being kept for judgment; - 2 Peter 2:4 For if they are overcome, having both escaped the defilements of the world by the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and having again been entangled in them, then the last state has become worse for them than the first. For it would be better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn away from the holy commandment handed on to them. The message of the true proverb has happened to them, “A dog returns to its own vomit,” and, “A sow, after washing, returns to wallowing in the mire.” - 2 Peter 2:20-22

First, what is the name of the book? The whole book is about the contrasts between Judaism and Christianity. Read each phrase that identifies the subjects. Every phrase can be applied to the Jews. And what is the theme of the book? The passage isn’t about Christians, it’s about Jews who returned to the Temple system of sacrifices.

Feel free to stop listening to this topic, I will never stop preaching it. Or feel free to make a Biblical defense and refute the point.

Isnt this the case of His sheep notbhearing His voice??? This person should be grateful for such assurance. I think you do a video on hearing His voice which is the Word ​@smartchristians

In order for God to have all of your heart, mind, soul, everything about you should be at God's disposal meaning what you think, love, hate, believe, do not believe, your reputation and even your very life should be accessible for God to touch, if you have reserved some things he is not lord.

Yes there are different types of fasting

No. Many who do not have the Spirit fool others by imitating gifts or fruits of the Spirit. Before Pentecost, it was different. The Holy Spirit came upon people to empower a task, but He did not indwell them or seal them the way He has since Pentecost. So, they could have the Spirit upon them, but not in them. That included some people who were not truly saved. There’s nothing in scriptures to indicate that a person would conditionally receive the Spirit today.

Great question! The answer is.... We will wait till you screw up and then question if you were ever saved. OSAS is absolutely true, Corey is correct. And also because it's correct we will just wait for you to cheat on your wife and we will question your salvation.

That is a dumb question!!! What do you take "being saved" to mean???

@@hollywoodelpaso1982 LOL, nice!

@@ricksonora6656 Then OSAS is FALSE, see Hebrews 6...🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾

The term backslider is never used in the NT it is used to describe the nation of Israel. No believing person has ever been described in the Bible as a backslider

@@smartchristians That invites more questions... But... I was invited to a local Baptist Church last year, and we attended for a while. I had asked this very question, OSAS? The response I received was basically... "one can backslide.."

​​@@smartchristians Next question. Can you as a OSAS believer, Sin? If you as a OSAS believer can sin, how and why do you sin when Jesus says to go and sin no more. Also, can a saved believer become an apostate?

Since no one of His can be blotted out I don't think we should take this as a person being saved already then having their salvation being sustained by the tree of life nullified. The question is what is meant by the passage. Is it referring to Eternity or is it referring to the Millennial reign where people can die. In chpt 7:14 it refers to those who have washed their robes as those who have come out of the Tribulation and are now going into the Millennium. If this is the same reference, then Jesus is talking about a physical death during the 1,000 years.

That's a lie.... Which sin??? 🤔🤔🤔

@@tiwanstrong1413 habitual sin your argument is against God's word John 8:31

@@danielmoore2320 So Jesus didn't die for habitual sins... Gotcha

@@danielmoore2320 if you continue in my word?? WHICH PART????🤔🤔

@@danielmoore2320 I tell you what, if you come to the Lord lost, and then you get saved, and then you get lost again, you might as well just go to hell, because ain't no hope for you, because chances are you are going to sin again... Good day

You do understand the nature of a covenant? God keeps those who want to be kept. He doesn't force obedience, he commands it.

@@TheMeefive We obey because we are followers of Jesus Christ. How much obedience is needed to ensure salvation? Do you have enough? So how are you going to UNSEAL THE HOLY SPIRIT? Please respond to Ephesians 1:13-14 directly and how you exegesis the verse.

@danielkim672 Paul understands the nature of a covenant. God promises us salvation, security, provision, etc., as a guarantee if we abide in his will . At the start of Ephesians. Paul lays out God's part of the covenant. Beginning at chapter 4, he lays out our part; walk worthy, keep the unity of the Spirit, crucify the old man, walk in newness of life, be strong in the Lord. Take advantage of the resources God has given us to stand; and then stand.

@@TheMeefive There is a distinction in the early chapters of Ephesians as Paul teaches about salvation and the later half of Ephesians as once we are CHristians, what we are to do now that 'we are created for good works'. There is zero teaching in Ephesians that works has any part in salvation or keeping salvation. The works is part of our DISCIPLESHIP as a follower of Christ Jesus. As part of santification process. Please cite the verse that Paul is teaching we will lose our salvation if we do not do works in Ephesians.

2nd Peter 2:9 ". . God is not willing that ANY man should perish but that ALL would come to repentance." Most of the world is walking away from his will all the time. What prevents a Christian from doing it?

@@TheMeefive what prevents a Christian from walking away from God? GOD prevents it. Ephesians 1:13-14. We are SEALED by the Holy Spirit. Our inheritance is guaranteed. Humans can not unseal this, and we will get what is coming to us, the gift of salvation. how can YOU break the Seal of the Holy Spirit? 13 In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, 14 who is the guarantee[a] of our inheritance until we acquire possession of it,[b] to the praise of his glory.

If you quote Hebrews 12, you ought to be smart enough to have noticed, at the beginning of the chapter, what it says about God chastising His children. You ought to be smart enough to connect this with 1 Corinthians 3, 5, and 11, where Paul teaches that chastisement can be as extreme as premature death “that his soul may be preserved in the day of judgment.” The accusation that OSAS is a license to sin is scurrilous and ignorant.

@@ricksonora6656 Enlighten me then. What happens to a saved person if he/she keeps sinning?

@@MrTutiplengohave you ever thought that maybe that person isn’t truly saved …? Or possibly maybe that person is a believer struggling with sin and the Holy Spirit is working in him to a perfect completion like scripture says. It’s one or the other… no in between bro.

​@@malachimcdowell9209 If the person accepted Christ as his/her savior, why wouldn't he be saved? Are there examples in the Bible where someone wholeheartedly repented and was refused by God? If there is, please share, as at least I haven't come across it. If OSAS is true, then why would God need to work a person into perfect completion? It's not like there's any condemnation for that person after all. Thank you for a respectful response. The other person who replied called me an ignorant and did little to show me wisdom. I won't judge him, and if OSAS is true, there is no condemnation for his disrespect, either, so we're good.

@@ricksonora6656 I can't find anything about that in 1 Corinthians. Can you share specific verse? But I ask. If there's no condemnation, why does God need to chastise his children?

I noticed you didn't cite those alleged objections to this text. Thus far, EVERY attempt to deal with the Greek of v. 28 (or all of John 10) is to add a condition that isn't in the text. Again Jesus literally said there is No Possibility of perishing. That eliminates ANY possibilities that can cause a sheep to perish.

@@smartchristiansNo possibility of perishing IF you are a sheep, if you’re no longer a sheep this wouldn’t apply. Further, the present indicative, in certain instances, can function to describe an event which has not yet occurred. Take in *Revelation 22:12* “Behold, I am coming soon, bringing my recompense with me, to repay each one for what he has done.” Jesus has not come yet, but He will come in the future. Despite this, the verb ἔρχομαι is in the present indicative, which in normal circumstances describes an event happening continually and in the present. So when, in your John example, it says I give them eternal life, it could be functioning to mean, I *will* give them eternal life. Especially considering that even a true and genuine believer must die first before they receive their reward. But if one dies, how can they be said to have eternal life? If they have eternal life right now and in the current moment, how do you explain their life being cut off at their death?

Take the challenge 💪

The word tells you that eternal life is in Jesus, so those who have Christ have eternal life. So you can know if you have eternal life if Christ is in you

Where in the verse? “And I give (present indicative active) them life unto the ages”. You do know what present tense means, don’t you? It doesn’t mean “I will give to them in the future if they jump through enough hoops.” 1 John 5:11-12, And this is the testimony: that God has given (aorist tense, meaning, at some time in the past) us eternal life, and this life is in His Son. He who has the Son has (present tense) life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life. John 3:36, He who believes in the Son has (present tense) everlasting life; and he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him. John 6:4, Truly, truly, I tell you, he who believes has (present tense) eternal life. So, the counter question is, do you trust God, or do you trust your own perseverance and works, thus reducing salvation to a mere opportunity?

@@marktravis5162 is Christ in you? How do you know? Cause you said "I believe" is that what causes us to be born again or from above? Many think they are by their own admission but even Jesus said there are some that "he never knew"........ Again there is no scripture that says you receive "eternal life" immediately upon your recognition. It reads you have it.....that is all.

It is literally in the passages. The present tense is used to tell us that we "have" present tense life. We have life according to Jesus right now. Also according to Jesus, we have ζωὴν αἰώνιον (Life into eternity/eternal) So how long do we have this life?

THIS 👏🏻🙌🏼

endurance is not part of the gospel of grace revealed to Paul ( 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 ) but it is part of the kingdom Gospel for Israel ! (2timothy 2:15 k.j.v) you must ''Rightly Divide the truth! Matthew 4:23 And Jesus went about all Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel of the kingdom, Matthew 9:35 And Jesus went about all the cities and villages, teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel of the kingdom, Matthew 10:5-7 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand. Matthew 15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Matthew 16:21-22 From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day. Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee. Matt 16 The disciples didn't know what was meant by rise the third day ! therefore, the death burial and resurrection which is our gospel (correct?) is not the Gospel preached in matt 4, matt 9, matt 10, Matt 15 E.T.C 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 is not the same Gospel that was preached to Israelites before atonement! there's 2 Gospels in the bible !!!! your mixing the 2 instead of rightly dividing the 2

That's talking about the tribulation

Your comment describes you as both saved and not saved. Either you are or you aren’t. If you are, God is “working in you both to will and to do according to His good pleasure.” If you abandon the faith, you demonstrate that God was not working in you because you were a false convert. You thought you were saved, but you weren’t.

​@@ricksonora6656That explanation is disproven by Revelation 2&3, which clearly deals with people who were genuinely saved but lost their first love, fell into sin and were warned to repent or lose excess to the tree of life

@@TheMeefive Your explanation is disproved by the letters being addressed to collectives, not to individuals.

That's a doctrine of demons and fallen angels. The scriptures clearly says you can surely go back to a lifestyle of sin and lose your salvation.

@@majormayco And you're still supposedly saved I take it???🤔 You will bust hell wide open thinking your faithfulness will get you saved and keep you saved.... Which, by the way, you ain't got no faithfulness... Jesus is THE Faithful One.... Filthy Ragger!!!

@@majormayco Without Law.... Justified!!! Without good works.... Justified!!! Without being GOOD.... JUSTIFIED!!!! FAITH IN CHRIST ALONE!!!!! JUSTIFIED.

@@tiwanstrong1413 You're misunderstanding everything about salvation because of being ignorant of the word of God. You forgot to say, "With sin and corruption of this world, JUSTIFIED." Haven't you read where it's indicated that anyone who continues with the works of the flesh and any form of sin after receiving salvation will not inherit the kingdom of God? I bet you don't even know that's in the scriptures.

@@majormayco You're not stupid enough to post the verse.... I love the word... Your opinion, though, is useless to me.... Post the verse

But you did not give any of them because you don't have it, get on the channel and prove it.

@@kgar5String Reason number one. If somebody calls somebody else an idiot dummy moron. It's only a matter of time before a they start to believe it or be they live it out of spite because of what that person said. Or there's even a third reaction. They will get that person out of their life. If you tell somebody they can lose their salvation long enough, it's only a matter of time before A, they live in fear and never grow with God B. They absolutely 100% walk away from God and they say to themselves. I'm already being accused of losing my salvation. So I am going to live the life I want. C. See, they make the decision to get that person out of their life. D. This is where I'm at. I ask God to intervene at some point to remove that person out of my life and it takes a lot of patience. Respond for the last 3.

Jeremiah 29:13 You will seek Me and find Me when you seek Me wholeheartedly The Bible says that God is the author and finisher of our faith, that we are turned into a new creation in Christ Jesus. In the Old testament God spoke to a prophet (I think it was Jeremiah? I forget) about the new covenant He will make with mankind, how He will put the fear of Him in their hearts so that they might not turn from Him. When the Holy Spirit is inside of us, and it is grieved when we sin, I think we would probably feel that grief over our sin as well since the Holy Spirit is inside of us. We learn to hate our sin. It's a natural process I think. This is my perspective atleast.

@@JCAPB123 thank you so much it sounds clear. Thank you God bless you 🙏

Just simply trust and pursue Christ. Abide in him the result will simply be that you'll pursue sin less because you are pursuing holiness. Sin isn't ok but God is so gracious and merciful that he is willing to forgive your sins but if your faith in Christ is genuine you will not have the same attitude towards sin. Sanctification is a life long process so I understand it won't be easy to completely break free from all your sins right away but trust Christ and they'll go away more and more over time. Repentence isn't about being sinlessly perfect it's about a mindset change away from sin and towards Christ.

Just submit your Biblical refutation to the Greek text

"IF" you abide in him. That's how covenants work. Who was Jesus referring to in John 15:6? Clearly people who initially accept him but do not abide/endure to the end

@@TheMeefive that’s the point - those who are in Christ are the ones who remain and abide- those of the true vine/root: the branches that remain living by Him, just as the sheep who will not follow another, or the seed that is planted in good soil and thus grows into wheat, or the overcomers, the believing ones, those who have been born again/by the Holy Spirit, those who are made alive and free, those who trust in the grace of God which is not earned nor kept by merit-- all of it is pointing to the Saviour signing the debt, sealing us by His Spirit, and delivering us to the Father-- the ‘If’ part is a sentiment of truthful faith in Him and trusting this is so; As He says. Not as a mode of work on our part (which would be the case if you were to have to ‘keep’ yourself saved) but as a result guaranteed by the Lord and the Lord alone- after all He who began the work in us brings it to completion. The ‘if’ also allows for generalization to include all those who hear and may believe (but only temporarily- which as the parable of the seeds points out with the first three examples would not be saved (as the referred person that is actually considered saved in the last example is the only one to remain) and it was those whom the soil was correct- the heart- which God himself gives us) The ‘if’ gives way to grasping also how we ourselves can discern ‘if’ we indeed are saved - as ourselves or others ‘if’ saved will infact produce fruit as a result of it- but in that case the truth of the matter is those who are saved are indeed saved and cannot have that state removed - The ‘if’ is not implying a state that can change once given, it is pointing out that it is certain when truthful and not certain if there is a disingenuous beginning- but again the outcome is guaranteed by the Lord when the state is indeed truthful. otherwise what would the purpose and power of Christ’s sacrifice have been for if it only followed that it was temporary and could be lost (that would be no different than the old covenant of the priests presenting offerings year by year- and as God clearly points out: He himself will provide the blood of His covenant, and Christ’s offer was one time for all time - hence the New Covenant of his blood.) The warnings are to those who rely on their own work, or are not genuinely putting their trust in the Lord (with wholeheartedness), or the mere purpose of being fearfully thankful and not arrogant so it is considerably wise to ‘check ourselves’ to make sure we truly do trust in Him and not ourselves/ disingenuously. As for those who genuinely trust in Jesus Christ and His Work - which is inclusively referring to salvation - are indeed saved. Eternally. No one can ‘undo’ what God has done. If indeed the truth is you are saved - which is affirmed by wholeheartedly trusting in the Lord and Christ whom the Father sent and His work on the cross and resurrection and by the Holy Spirit’s seal- you are indeed saved - once and for all. As only God can do this for us and by His hand. The same hand that keeps us eternally so.

salvation is done deal when you trust the death burial and resurrection! from your heart ! what your speaking of is Glorification that wont be done until we receive our new bodies that no longer have sin and death operating inside of them ! but we are saved and sealed with the holy spirit until redemption day, when we hear and believe the gospel revealed to Paul Ephesians 1:13-14 13In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, 14Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.

@@wolfwatchers I neglected to make the point of this comment. The fact that we’re waiting for the adoption, means that we’re not what we will be when He returns. So then, since we have not been conformed to the image of Christ yet, it’s not impossible for us to be deceived, or fall away from the faith; that’s the reason for the warnings of the Lord in the canon: To beware of false prophets/Christ, and to contend for the faith.

@@letgodbetrue8864 Absolutely we can fall away from THE faith but that doesn't equal loss of salvation, that doesn't equate to loss of eternal life , we are sealed with the holy spirit until redemption day ......................................................................... falling away from THE faith effects our earthly life and our blessings, and our walk but doesn't effect our status of saved ! next issue is we receive our new heavenly bodies when we die not at some resurrection, not at the rapture not at the second coming but when we die! 2 Corinthians 5:1 N.L.T 1For we know that when this earthly tent we live in is taken down (that is, when we die and leave this earthly body), we will have a house in heaven, an eternal body made for us by God himself and not by human hands. 2We grow weary in our present bodies, and we long to put on our heavenly bodies like new clothing. 3For we will put on heavenly bodies; we will not be spirits without bodies. Philippians 3:20 But our citizenship is in heaven. And we eagerly await a Savior from there, the Lord Jesus Christ, its Israel that is promised resurrection , we in the body of christ are promised new heaven bodies where we will dwell and live amongst the angels in heaven not on earth ,

I think Judas was unrepentant

You have the ability to insult, but what about the ability to intellectually refute the text?

@smartchristians it's not a insult it's a fact as far as the verse you it's true it's an offer of eternal security that according to the text is conditional Rev 3:16 proves that

Again, an inability to deal with the text.

your not on a path to be saved, you trust the gospel revealed to Paul (1Corinthians 15:1-4 ) you are saved , and sealed with the holy spirit ''until'' redemption day, Ephesians 1:13-14 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, 14Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory. Romans 8 :9 Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his., Romans 5:9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him. being ''NOW Justified!

@@wolfwatchers I agree with all your scripture verses but when you sign up for a free race and you meet all the requirements, you are automatically counted as qualified to run in the race,if you don't run the race or you quit mid -race, then you will not be counted as one of the runners,or be considered as one of the runners that quit along the race ( 1 Corinthians 9:24 etc ). Do you even know what we are saved from according to the scripture?

@@seedfarmer0416 you cant use all these non biblical analogy's, to prove doctrine the bible speaks for itself ! ill address your question will you address mine? according to scripture we are saved from wrath , Judgment for sins, damnation, and death, !!!!!! My Question is what does it mean to be Justified from all things that you could not be Justified by the Law of moses ???? Acts 13:38-39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.

@@wolfwatchers Non biblical analogies? Paul - 1 Corinthians 9:24 Do you not know that in a race all the runners run, but only one receives the prize? Run in such a way as to take the prize. Hebrews 12:1 Therefore, since we are surrounded by such a great cloud of witnesses, let us throw off every encumbrance and the sin that so easily entangles, and let us run with endurance the race set out for us. etc etc Good, I agree that the scripture says we are saved from God's wrath - 1 Thessalonians 1:10. The law is just to show the awareness of sin( Romans 3:20), it is not the means that God put in place for the atonement of sins, even though all animals used in the ceremony are offered according to the law (Leviticus 17:11 ) . Now , I will answer your question with two Bible verses, hopefully that will satisfy you than me explaining or elaborating on them. Hebrews 10:1-7 For the law is only a shadow of the good things to come, not the realities themselves. It can never, by the same sacrifices offered year after year, make perfect those who draw near to worship. If it could, would not the offerings have ceased? For the worshipers would have been cleansed once for all, and would no longer have felt the guilt of their sins. Instead, those sacrifices are an annual reminder of sins, Because it is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sins. Therefore, when Christ came into the world, He said: “Sacrifice and offering You did not desire, but a body You prepared for Me. In burnt offerings and sin offerings You took no delight. Then I said, ‘Here I am, it is written about Me in the scroll: I have come to do Your will, O God.’ ”a Romans 3:25 God put forward ( Christ )as a propitiation by his blood, to be received by faith. This was to show God’s righteousness, because in his divine forbearance he had passed over former sins.

that doesn't tell me what it means to be Justified from All things ! if I'm Justified does that mean if I do these certain things (whatever sin ) I'm in trouble and facing wrath or judgment or damnation or loss of eternal life or loss of status of reconciled and at peace with God or does it mean if I do them certain things I'm Justified! if a person with terrets syndrome is justified from wicked words , are they judged for their future words or because they have dieses are they Justified ! we have a dieses called sin and death and when we come to christ we are Justified and imputed christs righteousness not our own ! the issue with folks that think we can lose our salvation have no idea what it means to be Justified! Titus3:5 He saved us, not by the righteous deeds we had done, but according to His mercy, through the washing of new birth and renewal by the Holy Spirit. Ephesians 2:8-9 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast. acts 13:39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses. Philippians 3:9 and be found in Him, not having my own righteousness, which is from the law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which is from God by faith. Romans1:17 For the gospel reveals the righteousness of God that comes by faith from start to finish, just as it is written: “ The righteous will live by faith.” Romans 4:5 But to him who does not work but believes on Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is accounted for righteousness, Romans 4:6 And David speaks likewise of the blessedness of the man to whom God credits righteousness apart from works: Romans 5:1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ: Romans 5:9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him… Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Romans8:1 Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus Romans 8:39 nor height nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. 2 corrin 5:19 For God was in Christ, reconciling the world to himself, no longer counting people’s sins against them. And he gave us this wonderful message of reconciliation.

Notice in the verses you quoted that obedience is an identifier of His sheep. It does not turn them into His sheep.

​@@ricksonora6656he's not gonna NOTICE

@@ricksonora6656 Matthew 12:33 Either *make the tree good,* and his fruit good; or else *make the tree corrupt,* and his fruit corrupt: for *the tree is known by his fruit.*

What is the criteria of salvation and eternal life? WORKS? OF course not as Ephesians 2:8-9 and James will also tell you it is not works. There are several verses but why go past John 3:16? BELIEVE in Jesus Christ, and you are saved and have eternal life. No WORKS. You think your works get you into heaven? WOWzers

I pray for you bro. Ephesians 2 explain salvation beautifully and Roman’s 4. We are saved by grace through faith NOT OF YOURSELVES.. NOT OF WORKS.. When we are born again Ephesians 2:10 explain’s our purpose. God ordained the ones who would be born again has his master work to do the works he prepared for us BEFOREHAND meaning born again believers are doing what God meant for us to do in the first place. You’re low key trusting in works and not dividing the word of truth correctly family. When you truly believe you are now made from above (born again) with a purpose. We are justified by FAITH in the sight of God, works are justified by the flesh. You can do all the works you think will save you but if you can’t control your tongue, not spewing love and peace then you’re not producing the fruit of the Spirit which is LOVE. This is what it’s all about the Good News. We are God’s workmanship created IN CHRIST.. shalom my friend.

Salvation is the product of a covenant relationship. Jesus said " This cup is the new Testament/covenant in my blood. The nature of a covenant relationship requires both parties to keep their end. Our end is to abide in Christ, God's end is to keep us. When we stop abiding we are cut off. Don't believe me? See what Jesus says in John 15:6.

Very few people in the Bible, that fell away, was false converts. The Bible tell us about the ones that were false converts .

​@@contendingforthefaith9897Have you read Revelation 2&3. Jesus was clear with these churches that if they did not repent 1. They won't get to eat of the tree of life (chapter2:7) 2. They will not receive the crown of life (v:10) 3. They will not receive a new name (v:17) 4. He will give to EVERY ONE OF THEM according to their works 5. They will not receive the morning star (v:28) 6. They will not receive white robes (chapter 3:4) 7. He will blot their name out of the book of life ( v.5) 8. He will not write upon them his new name (v:12) 9. He will spew them out of his mouth

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@@smartchristians my answer is quite lengthy, and would violate the caveat you now insert into your argument. That is to address OSAS solely from the basis of John 10:28. I did not notice that as a stipulation the first time I saw you levy this challenge. You say that no scholar has been able to refute you, and I’m finding that extremely difficult to believe. This, because any scholar would mention that to base a doctrine upon a single verse is the foundational act which leads, more often than not; to false doctrine. Thus, your argument for only observing a single passage ignores the relevance of the Rule of Progressive mention in hermeneutics. This is the reason that my counter to your position is based on multiple passages. However, to address your position at minimum, your major focus appears to be on “harpazō tis autos ek ho cheir mou”. But this brings into question the very thing that you claim is not a valid challenge, because it would present a contradiction. That is, free will. As we are given free will by God, why is it a contradiction to leave His hand of your own accord? The Greek “harpazō” (G726) means to seize/carry off/snatch out or away. Leaving under one’s own volition is not the same, & therefore creates no contradiction as the Greek for leave is “aniēmi” carries an entirely different definition which creates no contradiction. Shalom

You have literally missed the point of this video and every other time that I've covered this text. I specifically focused on clause "B" of the verse "and they shall never perish" and you say my major focus is the last clause. You cannot possibly answer the challenge if you are focusing on the wrong argument. You also said you find it difficult to believe there is no other Greek Scholar that refutes "THIS" text. All you have to do is find one. I cannot. The reason is, because for a Greek grammarian to disagree, they would discredit themselves as this is a very basic Greek understanding. An emphatic negation of a subjunctive is exactly what I said it is. If you aren't able to deal with this greek argument, that is fine. But don't make an attempt . Just say I disagree with your overall conclusion but I am not equipped to refute the greek at this point. Lastly, Anyone that has ever listened to me knows that my assertions aren't based off of one single passage. But we are currently dealing with this one passage. What you've done is what everyone else has done. Ignore the argument as though this text doesn't even exist. Respectfully, deal with the text and the argument or just stand by and see if anyone else can.

@@smartchristians what you have done, is give you’re common justification for your position based upon no more that the parameters that you, and only you; get to set on your channel. Now what you’ve missed in what I said, is something that you weren’t paying attention to within your own statements. First, though you do state that you want to focus upon the “B” clause, you shift to using “C” in additional support of your position regarding the “B”. You clearly give emphasis toward, “neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.” as support. Second, you miss the point of what I’ve said regarding single text usage, as it is specific to this argument & no other you’ve made. I’ve watched many of your videos, & agree with your positions there. There are also a few where I’ve disagreed with your position, and have also voiced such. I still find your claim regarding Greek grammarians exaggerated. I’m no expert Greek grammarian, as I lean more toward the Hebrew. However, I’ve studied & learned enough Greek to know this. Regardless of whether or not it’s subjunctive or not, we cannot simply reach a conclusion regarding any statement in scripture via presupposition without asking the appropriate questions. The first being who is those who shall never perish. Well, you did show that from vs 27. Yet, there is a follow up question or 2 that must also be answered. The first follow up to ask is what, exactly; does “eternal life” mean? The second revolves around that free will I previously mention, which your position negates thereby making the “sheep” witless automatons. “aiōnios didōmi autos kai ou mē apollymi” does not specify external life where. This leads to the third follow up question of does this mean eternal life with Him in paradise, even if you stray? Thus, you’re automatically making the presupposition that “eternal life” always means an eternal existence in,paradise. And this is why I previously mentioned hermeneutics, because we can clearly find a life of eternal torment in scripture as well. Now correct me if I’m wrong on this part, but I believe that you’ve previously stated that it is your belief that it is impossible for them to stray. Yet there is no text suggesting such. Hermeneutics on the topic reveals that one can indeed stray, and remain lost (1 Tim 4). And contrary to the argument I’ve witnessed you raise before toward this end, the text in no way concludes at them never having been saved. No discrediting required. Thus, I shall continue to respectfully disagree.

Just simply say that you don't understand the Greek. When you say "regardless of whether or not it's a subjunctive or not" tells me you aren't versed in the language, which is fine. What isn't fine, is attempting to argue from a position that who have no knowledge of. Jesus was speaking to the Jews about His sheep. The emphatic statement He made was there is NO POSSIBILITY of them ever perishing. You cannot come back and then say "but what if....." That's the point of an emphatic or double negation of a "Subjunctive". The Possibility is eliminated. Now if a person wants to ask how is that possibility eliminated then when can address that. But even if we never determine HOW it is impossible for a sheep to ever perish, Jesus' negation still holds true.

But what happened? Did they actually have to cut of their hands or pluck out the eye? NO. WHY? Because JESUS CHRIST our Lord took all of our sins upon Him, so that in His death after a perfect life, HE STANDS IN JUDGEMENT before God for us. Jesus Christ took care of the sins so that those WHO BELIEVE in Him, we are viewed as sinless by God the Father. From the moment of accepting Jesus as Lord and Savior, to the day we are in heaven with God. What makes humans think they can alter the promises and guarantee of salvation?

@@danielkim672 Sacrifices in the Old Testament were only offered for sins of Ignorance!

@@FeedMyLambsPeter please share the verses that sacrifices were only for the 'sins of ignorance' and what are the other sins and how were they handled in the Old Testament?

@@danielkim672 This terrifying fact hit me while studying the old testament,it is a fact, and could mean or have vast implications that hardly bear thinking about! - The man who wrote Unlocking the Bible also bought this fact up it one of his Sermons his name is David Pawson - He also wrote the book Once Saved Always Saved? which included 80 scriptures showing a man can loose his salvation - I heard his wife's voice in my head - "He didn't make it" around two months later I discovered that she had dyed around that time!

@@FeedMyLambsPeter Just pick 5 of those 80 verses. I am interested in reading these.

Jesus knows His sheep. Read John 10 again. Jesus doesn’t “help” anyone to save themselves. He saves or He doesn’t. Our part is to get our self righteousness out of the way and trust Him to do the saving.

@ricksonora6656 what?? Mark 10 clearly let's you know without God it is impossible to make it into the Kingdom of heaven, with man it is impossible, but with God it is not impossible, that is the holy spirit. That is why Jesus tells we have to be born again of the water and the spirit (John 3:5), the Holy spirit is the word reminder my friend, that is what keeps our conscience holy. Jesus leaves the 99 sheep to chase after the one, that is the holy spirit trying to save you my friend..Jesus fills his elect with the Holy Spirit just as he did the disciples in Acts 2, that is what helps to save us.

Where do you get that from? You’re making statements without any biblical basis. If you have no scripture that says sheep can become goats then why are you making such statements?

Paul did not transform himself into a sheep. God did that through regeneration. Salvation isn’t a costume you can put on and take off. It’s not a place you can walk to or from. The new birth by God changes what you are. What vanity, to think you have the power to change yourself into a sheep, which only God can do, or into a goat, and undo what God has done.

lol 😂 no. You sin way more than you think. You 100% are going to hell by you’re definition

Repent for your pride. That audacity to think you can turn yourself into a sheep lol. You sin a lot more then you think and even by putting this much faith in yourself and your deeds you’re sinning. You’re so lucky that you can’t earn it. You’d be headed towards hell if you died right now unfortunately by your own logic but through gods grace you aren’t!

Lost to who?

Another dumb statement, John Calvin did not write any of the inspired scripture neither did the writers mention him. Just read the bible as though you nothing so you can get from God's word what he intended you to get from it when he put the words, you see to read just to reinforce what you already believe. If God cannot touch what you believe or think his is not lord to you. Was Jesus a Christian? How about Paul, John? Luther came to understand justification as being entirely the work of God. Luther asserted that Christians receive that righteousness entirely from outside themselves; that righteousness not only comes from Christ, it actually is the righteousness of Christ. How can you have righteousness come from God, and he said he is able to keep us from falling but he just won't do it. How can you be born again and then be unborn? How can you be sealed until the day of redemption and then be unsealed? How can anything separate you from the love of God when God said nothing can? How can God put his spirit in you and you take his spirit to hell because he said he will never leave you? How can you walk away from Jesus when he said if any of his sheep walk away he would leave the 99 and bring them back? How can we born from above like Jesus told Nicodemus (Ezekiel 36:25-27) 25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you. 26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh. 27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them. God took out you heat and put in a new one, put his spirit in you and caused you to walk in his ways and you can fight through that? wow.

@@kgar5String I did not say John Calvin wrote inspired Scripture.

Outside the catholic church? Have you looked up John wycliffe or William tyndale?

@@adamrogers-bt7kh Why would i need to do that ?

@aussierob7177 because the catholic church burned William tyndale alive for translating the bible into English John wyclffe - the catholic church was so mad at him they dug up his bones and had them scattered The Roman empire couldn't stomp out Christianity so they integrated paganism in with it. This is just basic examples of the heretical evil catholic church

Take your time to study. Verse 27 begins by saying, "My sheep hear My voice, I know them and they follow Me." Take note of those three factors: 1. They hear My voice. 2. I know them. 3. They follow Me. Whoever is not in that category is not among His sheep.

SEE THE CONDITION v5 *He that abideth in me* , and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. v6 *IF a man abideth not in me* , he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned. Scriptures interprets itself. Do you see the condition? here is a hint... if a angel, who is a higher being, *can fall out from grace* . . . because of one thing which i will not tell you... what more for a man who is not at the same stature as an angel. i think this corey guy *cannot even tell the difference* between the BIDDEN and the CALLED. (KJV)

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So what does the holy spirit do in you (if you indeed fill ) ?

Also, if that's what you are thinking start praying ,no one born of the spirit thinks this way

You would not do that if you love the Lord. If you love Me, you will keep my commandments. John 14:15 He is holy so we must be holy.

lol what true believer would want to do constantly do that? Repent of your foolish pride my friend. You rely to much on your own works and trust me you may not cheat but even by your statement you’re so much more sinful then you realize. By your own standards you’re headed to hell. Surrender your pride and accept his grace. I know you can’t fathom others sinning and going to heaven but that’s because you still have far to high of a view of yourself. Repent of your arrogance and pride.

Herises!!!!

@@kelvinsmall2552 😂😂😂😂😂😂. Bring your best Greek grammarian from the SDA organization to refute what he said. He’s waiting!!!!!

Not me the Bible is plain. Our tongue is English not Greek. The Bible is plain on this subject

@@kelvinsmall2552 you must be naive the original text is in Hebrew for Old Testament Greek for New Testament please follow the rules of the original text. Please don’t deviate from the original language.

@@kelvinsmall2552 also give scripture to support your claim. Just don’t make statements without any proof or evidence.