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Proof of Stake (PoS) Versus Proof of Work (PoW) w/ Jason Lowery (BTC098) 

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@chrishayes8012
@chrishayes8012 Год назад
Not only are we lucky to have Jason, we need him.
@cmc8553
@cmc8553 Год назад
And Preston 😎
@yvrytry5rc
@yvrytry5rc Год назад
Jason lowery is a modern day hero
@jehannekejup7142
@jehannekejup7142 Год назад
We don't need him, or anyone. But I do appreciate his work.
@RedPillDiaries
@RedPillDiaries Год назад
need implies lack of decentrali2ation / single point of potential failure
@dingfeldersmurfalot4560
@dingfeldersmurfalot4560 Год назад
I'm glad he's on OUR side.
@graydonforward7358
@graydonforward7358 Год назад
My God...I thought I was Orange pilled before listening to this. That was absolutely incredible, relating POW to evolution and sapiens development. With this young man advising the upper echolons of Government and defense, I think the future of Bitcoin and POW could be absolutely mind blowing.
@antoinedesjardins6752
@antoinedesjardins6752 Год назад
I know, right!? It's like re-orange pilling yourself.
@PikaBane94
@PikaBane94 10 месяцев назад
This kind of stuff being free to watch on the internet is truly amazing.
@OrmondOne
@OrmondOne Год назад
Jason’s ability to breakdown complex subjects keeps you engaged the entire time. Request for a quarterly Jason deep dive into various subject matters that match with the shows vision.
@tj78492
@tj78492 Год назад
He's basically been doing that on Breedloves channel
@Peranine
@Peranine Год назад
Absolutely stunning conversation.
@kylescott6421
@kylescott6421 Год назад
Outstanding indeed. Just right on the money.
@tobychenderson
@tobychenderson Год назад
Probably the best interview I've listened to in over 5 years.
@kennethmayor3596
@kennethmayor3596 Год назад
Damn right
@somebodyelse5784
@somebodyelse5784 Год назад
I almost never do this, but this is one of those rare times I'll have to listen again, back to back.
@simonseverino
@simonseverino Год назад
Magnificent. Thank you for doing this Jason and Preston!
@EveryDayWalkingWithChrist
@EveryDayWalkingWithChrist Год назад
EPIC! MUST WATCH!!! Thank you Preston and Jason!
@JuiceBox_Miami
@JuiceBox_Miami Год назад
Thank God for Jason Lowery! The depth of knowledge that flows from this young man’s mind is simply amazing!
@AnonDa
@AnonDa Год назад
Mind fully blown. Without doubt the best articulation of the merits of PoW i have seen
@aowsbaker8449
@aowsbaker8449 Год назад
Just when I thought I understood everything about Bitcoin.. this is amazing content.
@Fittanbullsson
@Fittanbullsson Год назад
In the past two years I've listened to hundreds and hundreds of podcasts about bitcoin. I have a list of 10 podcasts that I always send to people who want to learn about bitcoin and proof of work. This will now be the 11th. Great great podcasts. Mind blown
@neilmostyn3277
@neilmostyn3277 Год назад
Can you list the Top10 please? Would be really interested to see it. Thanks
@pupfriend
@pupfriend Год назад
what are the other ten?
@atom3850
@atom3850 Год назад
I’ve compiled a similar list and would love to see yours
@lookatthetrees7494
@lookatthetrees7494 Год назад
2 of my favorite guys to listen to. Thanks Preston and Jason!!
@00JamesMoody00
@00JamesMoody00 Год назад
Cutting edge thinking, absolutely grounded in reality and logic. Fantastic to listen to
@Satssetyoufree
@Satssetyoufree Год назад
Jason brings a truly unique perspective to help our understanding of Bitcoin. The Bitcoin network is so much more valuable than just a monetary system.
@mkmstillstackin
@mkmstillstackin Год назад
Fantastic conversation. Thanks Preston and Jason!
@abovemypaygrade491
@abovemypaygrade491 Год назад
Great high level convo
@mdubore
@mdubore Год назад
Good shit Jason, best explanation on computer and software abstraction i have ever heard.
@backseatstudios6903
@backseatstudios6903 7 месяцев назад
I keep coming back to this interview and it keeps blowing my mind 🤯
@larryblock4638
@larryblock4638 Год назад
This is the Tip of the Spear of knowledge to be able to understand WHY Bitcoin POW is Superior to all other consensus mechanisms (POS.). I have goosebumps listening to this and can’t believe I get to participate and learn “real time” as the World’s powers structures are at war with each other (currency wars, God King’s, and Protocols.). All I can say is THANK YOU Jason & Preston!You both are improving the depth of my understanding and the quality of my life!🙏❤️
@mc-kz8zn
@mc-kz8zn Год назад
WOW! This. Was. Genius. Mind blown, unbelievable interview! Going to watch this again, so many amazing points. Profound, well thought through, just awesome. Thank you for this work!
@ryszardmacko6306
@ryszardmacko6306 Год назад
Wow! This, indeed, is one of the best interviews I've watched! Saved for future re-watching. Thank you gents. Cheers!
@reidjohnson3964
@reidjohnson3964 9 месяцев назад
I’ve listened to this 3 times over the last year and it gets better every time.
@factoroftime
@factoroftime Год назад
lots of wow moments. Thank you guys.
@ThepoweroftheBitcoinnetwork
Need to watch this several times. Mind blowing.
@lenjohnson5343
@lenjohnson5343 Год назад
Thank you, Jason. I have just begun my journey down the rabbit hole. Wow, this interview has opened my eyes.
@heydude696969
@heydude696969 Год назад
Always fascinating listening to Jason and Preston discuss PoW vs. PoS.
@domenicofornas
@domenicofornas Месяц назад
I just rewatched this amazing episode, which is stille one of the best content about Bitcoin
@jerricknaylor9686
@jerricknaylor9686 Год назад
Jason is king
@ckniffen7111
@ckniffen7111 Год назад
God King
@blockfuture6156
@blockfuture6156 Год назад
The whole POW analogy to violence and physical power is great and makes complete sense. But we must ask ourselves, why did humanity begin to abstract power in different ways? For progress and scale. If POW is truly the unbreakable and one true system to rule all, then by the analogy we would still be living in a world of neanderthals who are essentially driven by physical power. The analogy is great because it's true, neanderthals could not scale into groups larger than 20, just like Bitcoin can't be the underlying framework for scalable, complex, systems. Homo sapiens arrived with the ability to make abstractions of power, which in history proved the long term winner - a natural evolution into a "POS" society. "Theres no limit to how many Watts someone can summon to defend POW". Watts cost money. Stake costs money. Through inference you can say: Theres no limit to how much stake can be summoned to defend POS. In fact, staking is far more streamlined than having to deploy physcal servers to mine, so defence can be summoned quicker in POS. As far as blockchain POW vs POS goes, we need both
@PrimordialEconomics
@PrimordialEconomics Год назад
I hope you have taken the time to read the thesis now that it's published
@bridgerlogan1923
@bridgerlogan1923 Год назад
Proof of work is the best 'spent' energy you could use. PoS is just a fiat model, thats why the WEF is in love with ETH all of a sudden. Can be controlled by large stake.
@robertrichards4930
@robertrichards4930 Год назад
Eth is crap.
@discodisco3063
@discodisco3063 Год назад
@@robertrichards4930 That's why the community is slowly moving to Ethereum Classic
@shareurtube
@shareurtube Год назад
Without a doubt this is the most impressive video about cyber currency and points brought up by Jason Lowery. After watching your video Preston I cannot say enough good things about it. The one profound statement that hit the hardest was what Jason said about letting Bankers be in charge of bitcoin. For God's sake they should not be in charge of protecting our Cyber Dome and only allow those people who can keep up with what Jason is trying to convey to America. Thanks again Preston for this was a very important video.
@DisperseControl
@DisperseControl Год назад
This is a brilliant interview and inspires what I want to do professionally. Great work, thank you
@laurentscheercousse3856
@laurentscheercousse3856 Год назад
Masterpiece podcast to keep in the shelve with what is money show Saylor/Breedlove… 🙏🙏🙏thank you so much gentlemen’s !
@MothershipVR
@MothershipVR 6 месяцев назад
This is great. Listening to Jason makes me want to get some more hashpower
@Hugo-ew2ko
@Hugo-ew2ko Год назад
Jason is incredibly intelligent & knowledgeable. Great to see how interested he is in these subjects
@trishhaines7151
@trishhaines7151 Год назад
Oh, Jason! I far from understand all you say, but from day one when you transitioned from LinkedIn to Twitter, I have greatly appreciated your insights. CONGRATULATIONS on being invited to advise the WH Exec. Ofc. on strategic security benefits of Bitcoin. I have confidence you'll give it your best. EXCELLENT pod here with Preston! 🧡🧡
@ricp
@ricp 9 месяцев назад
Thanks so much for this great conversation!!!
@aross777
@aross777 Год назад
This is one of the most informative and useful discussions I have heard. Thank you to Jason and Preston for putting this out!
@ryszardmacko6306
@ryszardmacko6306 Год назад
I just re-watched this vid and, oh boy, I've noticed so many new things I 'missed' the previous time. I will watch it again in a few months. Everybody that thinks POS is the "right" way should follow Jason's work and really and truthfully apply their intellect to Jason's arguments. And if they're honest, they will convert to POW.
@LiborTinka
@LiborTinka Год назад
As a former software engineer I was looking into Algorand's PPOS (Pure Proof of Stake) to see whether I am (as a Bitcoin user) really not missing something important... it seems the whole network actually relies on some 100 so called Relay Nodes, which need to be servers handling many connections, with public address AND publicly listed. So this again boils down to the problem of authority taking over the protocol.
@pran10000
@pran10000 Год назад
Thank you gents!! Excellent stuff.
@jksmithiii
@jksmithiii Год назад
Great stuff with Jason Lowery. Thanks Preston Pysh. We need to redefine the whole Bitcoin maxi narrative, because it's too easy to pick at. This is a PoS vs PoW issue, and how any property, no matter what it is, must be protected. Imagine if cryptographic algorithms in general could be challenged by PoS instead of PoW.
@kylehoorn5192
@kylehoorn5192 Год назад
Incredible conversation.
@anzori2002
@anzori2002 Год назад
Mind blowing! Thank you!
@pyxis55
@pyxis55 Год назад
🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯The deeper I go, the more steadfast I get. Profound stuff, Preston.
@coinborg8305
@coinborg8305 Год назад
Lol all the people who shit on Jason on Twitter for being a spook or something are so dumb. Listen to what he says. What he’s saying is factual and provable. I don’t see any mental gymnastics going on here. It’s all based on first principles and historical references. Bravo!
@PrimordialEconomics
@PrimordialEconomics Год назад
If anything his thesis flies in the face of the high ranking members of our system who are corrupt and regularly choose to exploit and abuse their control authority over the money printer.
@artefacto2114
@artefacto2114 Год назад
we need this guy talking with Michael Saylor on a podcast
@jaareshiahq2106
@jaareshiahq2106 Год назад
Elite interview, Jason does a great job of explaining the basis of human society and how exponentially impactful bitcoin is and will be
@anesskattan6259
@anesskattan6259 Год назад
Amazing chat
@calebhoward4253
@calebhoward4253 Год назад
This was mind blowing. Excellent conversation.
@SpringismySeason
@SpringismySeason Год назад
Mind blown!🤯
@azdjedi
@azdjedi 11 месяцев назад
Great. Good explanation of pow
@Dante3X
@Dante3X Год назад
Power projection is fueled by the Power of knowledge 💪🏾🔥
@fadibataineh2379
@fadibataineh2379 Год назад
Thanks for your effort guys, great video
@jshagenow
@jshagenow 11 месяцев назад
My question is this…what happens when you time-lock bitcoin future price/value appreciation to be split by the “communicating parties” to a future date? Not for every transaction but I certainly the major ones (whatever “major” means to the consumer)…specifically rent/mortgages. It seems like this would turn bitcoin into a method that literally sucks the “value/money” right out of real estate??? Probably all major assets/commodities…companies that offer it will flourish and customers (of all markets) will begin to demand it? Or am I wrong?
@JNorth87
@JNorth87 Год назад
Is Entropy the decentralization mechanism of energy?
@ThePhilosophyDoctor
@ThePhilosophyDoctor Год назад
Fantastic! A lesson in Ontology! Proof of Stake - a sign with a drawing of a guard dog. Proof of Work - a real snarling dog guarding your house. It's like saying the sign can do the same thing as the real dog. The drawing of the dog is an abstraction from the real thing. The communication is meant to make you believe there is a real dog there. And it is using the fact of the real thing (guard dogs) already existing to deceive you.
@copenhagen995
@copenhagen995 Год назад
Epic
@TheBitcoinRevolution
@TheBitcoinRevolution Год назад
The Keys to the Kingdom. Pow!
@ckniffen7111
@ckniffen7111 Год назад
Preston is good cuz he listens.
@End_The_Fed
@End_The_Fed Год назад
Incredible - thank you, Jason!
@beast7815
@beast7815 Год назад
Jason the GOAT fucking love this guy ! Did he write a book ?
@michaelbhatti6846
@michaelbhatti6846 Год назад
Most interesting video I’ve ever seen on pow vs pos. Amazing!!
@auralenergy9082
@auralenergy9082 Год назад
Wow! Just wow!
@jacobhower1291
@jacobhower1291 Год назад
The domestication of men in America is intentional. J. Peterson speaks to this as well. Great insight Jason.
@PrimordialEconomics
@PrimordialEconomics Год назад
Humans self-domesticated over thousands of years.
@gianboontiong
@gianboontiong Год назад
Excellent discussion. Many thanks..
@sarros13
@sarros13 Год назад
Thank u for providing this amazing interview!!!
@Angus1507
@Angus1507 Год назад
Mind opening. Thanks gents.
@Mike-lz2ef
@Mike-lz2ef 9 месяцев назад
wow..I want to send this out to everybody I know...but they just won't get it...I barely get it
@kieranmoriarty8366
@kieranmoriarty8366 Год назад
Need more of this
@gommaardhulst
@gommaardhulst Год назад
A conversation at the highest level of human intelligence
@QuadTap
@QuadTap Год назад
what Preston says at 1:53:00 is profound
@pdizzle8568
@pdizzle8568 Год назад
Finally more Jason P Lowery content!
@andyt2363
@andyt2363 Год назад
Brilliant discussion, very philosophical and interesting comparisons
@shinforex
@shinforex Год назад
the best podcast breakdown philosophic ideas
@abkg84
@abkg84 9 месяцев назад
Wish this was in my curriculum growing up together with all the stories being told in religion class., like an interesting story nature class, but a simpler word for it, not using the word bitcoin.
@robleduc2410
@robleduc2410 Год назад
Time stamp for reference 1:24:36. Governments could also simple print fiat to purchase mining equipment to capture control of a proof of work system. Kinda easy actually. How is this any less cunerable than proof of stake? Actually with a organically grown proof of stake network, so much of the supply is out of circulation. This actually stands to function better than proof of work in your analogy if the impacts of money printing.
@TheIaTaI
@TheIaTaI Год назад
The point of bringing up this analogy is to highlight unbounded vs bounded systems. In PoS, it would be indefinite for an entity to capture 60% of circulating supply as there is a cap on circulating coins. While in PoW capturing 60% would cause honest miners to increase there hash rate as there is no cap on energy abundance.
@robleduc2410
@robleduc2410 Год назад
@@TheIaTaI Thanks for the comment, but just not getting it. But back to the question, couldn't " a bad actor" print a bunch of fiat and purchase miners to steal a pow system? That is if they captured 51% of the hash power?
@TheIaTaI
@TheIaTaI Год назад
​@@robleduc2410 In both PoW and PoS a "bad actor" can technically print money and attempt a chain attack - albeit at the expense of said money debasing (a heavily defended chain would require more printed money in order to have a successful attack, which would lead to more currency debasement). As an analogy, imagine an attacker discovering two honeypot chains and both are in the best interest of the "bad actor" to attack: One is heavily guarded by real world limitations (Power/Watts) and the other is guarded by an abstract version of power. Regarding my previous comment. In case of an attack, it is in the best interest of honest actors to defend their chains. PoW is defended by honest actors plugging in more miners to increase their % of hash rate (hash wars), there is no upper bound to how much energy can be plugged in. In the case of PoS there is an upper bound, which is the total supply of coins that are circulating, once a bad actor acquires a majority stake, it is over
@robleduc2410
@robleduc2410 Год назад
@@TheIaTaI That makes sense. So if the majority of coins in a POS chain are staked and supporting the networki a bad actor would not be able to achieve majoirity stake. Which chains with thousand of nodes and a large distribution is so important
@philippelelong2101
@philippelelong2101 Год назад
@@TheIaTaI the state attacker could also just seize mining operations for free. Yes, pow is a quasi unbounded resource, but also jot really. You need the energy and the hardware. So you might be able to regain power at some point, but it might be too late then.
@davef5916
@davef5916 Год назад
GOD DAMN
@hametly254
@hametly254 Год назад
Dude is so smart and a joy to listen to. Can’t believe this shit is free!! OneLove…
@CSanderson
@CSanderson Год назад
When I listen to Jason, Preston, Saylor, Saif, Breedlove… I realize my brain is a 4 cylinder rustbucket while these guys are rolling a v12 sedan! 🤯
@sebrock
@sebrock Год назад
37:48 One remark regarding bees' stingers. Bees sting to defend themselves from other insects that threaten the hive and when this happens, the bees manage to survive. In fact, a bee does not always die after using the sting. For example, if a bee attacked an insect with a rigid exoskeleton , it would be able to retract the sting without problems. The situation is different when the bee attacks the human being, or better yet, defends itself against the human being or other mammals. In that case you are right, when the bee flies away, its sting remains stuck in our epidermis, detaches itself and with it also part of the bee's internal organs remain attached. In this way, the bee dies.
@bruteht4655
@bruteht4655 Год назад
I'd love to hear a discussion about using proof of work to constrain A.I.
@chucksirois1142
@chucksirois1142 Год назад
thank you guys for the wonderful intellectual presentation and the clarity of your message. you and others are my god kings😁
@gaudykyle101
@gaudykyle101 Год назад
Go and watch to 1:55:00 - 2:03:25 he perfectly verbalizes the “so what” of bitcoin. MIND BLOWING!!!
@ambrose391
@ambrose391 Год назад
Loved this you Blokes, well done!
@wayfinderMatt
@wayfinderMatt Год назад
01:23:34 Regarding Nations printing fiat to gain more stake. couldnt they print fiat to build more solar farms too and get more pow? thx
@farkasgr
@farkasgr Год назад
with this you just increase the demand for solar farms which increases the price. So at the end you have to buy solar farms for infinite price.
@RONIN_SATS
@RONIN_SATS Год назад
Unpopular opinion We do not fully understand bitcoin yet. Is it important? Yes Is it secure? Yes Is it money? Yes Is it time? Yes Is it energy? Yes Is it property? Yes It is power projection? Yes Is it neutral? Yes Is it a transportation device? Yes Is it defensive? Yes Is it truth? Yes Is it fair? Yes Could it be more? Yes Could it be used in ways we haven't even imagined? Yes Could it be a part of everything? Yes
@jonatanduelund9123
@jonatanduelund9123 Год назад
Thank you 🙏 This is just the information i was looking for 👍 Watching the Michael Saylor episode next.
@LusoCMD
@LusoCMD Год назад
So good!!
@ProfitMaximazer
@ProfitMaximazer Год назад
A podcast with Jason Lowery and Michael Sailor together would be amazing
@hyperbitcoinizationpod
@hyperbitcoinizationpod Год назад
Wattage is not enough explanatory. It's also about where and how that power is delivered. A wolf with less wattage could overpower a wolf with more wattage, if it's more cunning and smarter about its power allocation/delivery.
@Ryan-xq3kl
@Ryan-xq3kl Год назад
true, the way in which difficulty is found is the unique and useful part of the equation
@DIRTYWORKER1000
@DIRTYWORKER1000 Год назад
Jason will become the Carl Sagan of cyberspace one day.
@mlscaramouche
@mlscaramouche Год назад
Mind continuously expanded. Holy sh*t.
@dev77799
@dev77799 Год назад
should invite Vitalik to answer some questions in this interview. I bet he can't. Great evolutionary explaining done here
@plyersonmain733
@plyersonmain733 Год назад
Bitcoin technology as nextgen power projection… paraphrasing: it makes no more sense to ask a banker about Bitcoin tech than it does to ask a medical doctor about gunpowder. Brilliant insights.
@doowey22
@doowey22 Год назад
consider: Discussion relative to 'abstract power projection' relative to presumptive trust conferred upon those using abstract power to control property or resources. Note: given common law, public servant (principal) in "office", is bound by oaths or affirmations to support and defend constitutional language. The abstract power cannot exceed common law.... cause harm, injury, loss or damage.
@cryptofan6937
@cryptofan6937 Год назад
How do we get Jason to speak to the US congress?
@cryptofan6937
@cryptofan6937 Год назад
Should we start contacting senator Lummis?
@Steve.191
@Steve.191 Год назад
Sweet. Confirmation is wonderful 👍
@abovemypaygrade491
@abovemypaygrade491 Год назад
I’m a huge fan of bitcoin. Buttt what is your take on feasibility of blockchain tokens issued by third parties backed by gold? Many people argue that it requires third party trust and bitcoin does not. I agree, but insurance requires third party trust aswell and everyone has car insurance.
@BugInJim
@BugInJim Год назад
Why does everyone have car insurance?
@abovemypaygrade491
@abovemypaygrade491 Год назад
@@BugInJim good point
@OPIXdotWORLD
@OPIXdotWORLD Год назад
@@BugInJim because we have a crooked system run by crooks
@OPIXdotWORLD
@OPIXdotWORLD Год назад
third party trust ?...say no more... who can u trust to really verify gold that is not in your own hands...?
@abovemypaygrade491
@abovemypaygrade491 Год назад
@@OPIXdotWORLDtrue
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