Prophecy 101: False Prophets, Prophets, and Prophetic Words with Kris Vallotton | Rediscover Bethel 

This just blew me away!! I can find gold in people all day…every single day. I absolutely loved this message! I am incorporating this into my life. I am new again!! WOW!!! Thank you!!!

“Long ago, at many times and in many ways, God spoke to our fathers by the prophets, but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed the heir of all things, through whom also he created the world.” - Hebrews‬ ‭1:1-2‬

Maybe if some of y’all stopped criticizing and actually dove into the prophetic with God you’d actually have encounters where you hear Him speak to you in His own way. I’ve had many times God has told me things that would happen before they did, as well as given me words of knowledge about strangers I never met, and those words of knowledge ended up being the reason people came to the Lord. If you come humbly there is always something more to walk away with than sneering and criticizing everything you disagree with

I wanted both of you to know how much this podcast means to me. I have attended many prophetic conferences but this is the first time I have heard clear basic teaching about the subject that is conveyed in clear simple terms which to me means you have true understanding of what you are teaching. In this session I received greater understanding; revelation about myself that I need to bring to prayer; forgiveness for my mistakes; the ability to forgive on a greater level being under leadership that had no grid for allowing research, development and failure; and from all these things staring at an open door that leads to a new place of wonder in God. Holy Spirit was in the midst and I am hungry for more. Thank you 🕊

Love this. Thanks Bethel.

There’s so much gold in these Rediscover Bethel talks! What a tremendous gift to the body.

Ive made a lot of these mistakes from a immature or wounded place. Its so hard to even start relationships in the church or anywhere really much less grow into the place God has for us. I was hoping there would be some conversation about church corruption or errant leadership and how we deal with that.

How did this channel get so many views. These folks are speaking from what they THINK. The people of God and the lost need to hear from people who have had an actual experience WITH GOD WITH JESUS

Thank you Kris!! Love these conversations.

Praying.

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There are way too many men an women that go on social media an say they are prophets , apostles, bishops, etc. Any man or woman that is on meth, crack, pot , alcohol or any other drugs neeeds to stop preaching. How do we handle this? How do we as ministers , ordained at that , deal with this end times plaque.

This is a very good basics for prophecy that many can learn more, not taught much in many local churches. Believers end up making wrong judgments on prophets and the prophetic in general. The Malachi transfer across the cross is a really good one. Some of us forget that it’s not Elijah but actually the Holy Spirit on Elijah-that it’s the same Spirit. Thank you, Kris!

Wow thanks for sharing Kris. Offense line story is epic. God bless you for sharing such a brutal lesson so courageously.

Just finished watching this…… Wow….. so encouraging….filled with Truth … and the foundation of the Word….this blessed my heart…. and gave such revelation…. Thank you so much

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The song by Bob Dylan is Rainy Day Women #12 and 35 😂😂😂 great job of the Old Testament law lol

Another question ive had over the years is who did the Apostles submit to after the days of Jesus in the flesh. Paul appears to be on his own with noone over him to teach him. He says in one place actually in several places that no man taught him but that he received everything directly from the Lord. Questions questions questions..

Thank you so much!!!

That's just it there are no modern day apostles or prophets. An apostle would have to had been an eyewitness of the risen Christ, no one today saw Jesus after his resurrection and prophets were only active in the old testament, bringing and pointing us unto Christ. God speaks to his people today through his Son Christ Jesus via the Holy Spirit from the written Word of God, Hebrews 1: 1 "God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spoke in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, 2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds". There are no new revelations of scripture, if somebody says differently they are adding to the scriptures and will reap God's wrath in Revelation 22: 18-19.18 "For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book. (God's prophets of old heard him perfectly) they did not have to guess or wonder if God was speaking to them. Many false prophets have come on the scene in these last days, and if you say "Thus saith the Lord" you better be reading from the word of God because he is not speaking audibly to his people today. Matthew 7: 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

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This is good. I realized that the most common problem in the church which resulted in all those negative things in the prophetic is the lack of understanding between the old covenant and the new covenant. You cannot use the old testament without seeing it in the lens of the finish work of the cross thats why paul said here. Now we know [without any doubt] that the Law is good, if one uses it lawfully and appropriately, understanding the fact that law is not enacted for the righteous person [the one in right standing with God], but for lawless and rebellious people, for the ungodly and sinful, for the irreverent and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers, for sexually immoral persons, for homosexuals, for kidnappers and slave traders, for liars, for perjurers-and for whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine, according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, with which I have been entrusted. - 1 Tim 1:8-11 Thats the biggest error and problem in a lot of churches right now.

So glad I watched to the end, it got better and better.

There should be emphasis on the minor prophets as well. Currently, Agabus should serve as the best representation of a prophet directed by the Holy Spirit as today's model of a New Testament Prophet.

So I’m hearing prophets say things as prophecy that I have heard for many months on back channel news sites My Christian friends send it to me as awesome prophecy and I’m asking God How is this prophecy when it’s old news

Bethel talking about false teachers/prophets. That's rich.

This is beautiful! Learned so much and opened my eyes 💯♥️

A wealth of understanding. I hear better and get more out of a flow of teaching rather than a interview style. The breaks and exchange is a bit distracting for me. Love the content from both of these guys. Thank you very much.

Are we not all witnesses of God? For God created us in His image.

In their explanation of “prophecy” they give an excuse for “false prophecy”, they said at around 19:44, “no one hears perfectly”, meaning, no one that is a believer that is prophesying will get it right 100% of the time because no one hears the Holy Spirit speaking perfectly. So they may misunderstand what is being said and prophesy the wrong thing. What this does is introduce doubt about everything written in the Bible. If the New Testament is inspired by the Holy Spirit, written by believers inspired by the Holy Spirit, then it’s possible they wrote something not quite right, because “no one hears perfectly.” Now if they deny this, then their statement is wrong and actually people can hear perfectly. Either way they are wrong in what they are saying. God is not ambiguous when He speaks to His people. I haven’t even touched on the fact that not everyone that is a believer is supposed to prophesy. It is actually written in the Bible that only some prophesy. Paul asked a list of rhetorical questions in which the answer was “no”, in first Corinthians. One of those questions was: “Do all prophesy?” No. Any teaching that says everyone should be operating in all the spiritual gifts is ignoring the scriptures. In the same book of corinthians, Paul says that each believer is given “a” gift as the Holy Spirit sees fit. And it is not for that person but for the building up of the church. Can you have more than one gift? Yes. If the Holy Spirit sees fit to give more than one.

I think these sharings are wonderful! I feel that Dann needs to let whose being interviewed to talk more rather than interrupt so much. I’m tuning in to hear from his “guests”.

Sir it would be better if the volume of the man in white hair was louder , I guess it's the microphone .

14:45 we completely believe in the sovereignty of God… except that God won’t do what He needs to do unless I act? 🤔

I had two very special words from the Lord in regard to the correct interpretation of the Daniel tribulation timeline. I don’t consider myself a prophet, but when you experience audible messages in the night like Samuel did, it makes you pay attention. The experiences occurred in a few weeks in the southern summer of 2011 - 2012 and were followed by a vision of the nature of the universe. Suffice to say the messages are challenging because they show that Daniel’s 1,335th ‘day’ begins in 2024. It is all laid out with a travelogue of an eastern Mediterranean journey which included the Holy Land and (as it turned out) a visit to the Harlot City, Babylon the Great months before the ‘Arab Spring’. ‘Seven Times: Egypt to Istanbul’ published by Scope ‘n Compass.

11:46 What is the “office” of the prophet? 16:20 What is the “office” of the prophet? Do you mean to say ‘authority’? /Or do you mean something else?

When the majority of people prayed to God was it a monologue prior to the New Covenant?

You are what I fight against

While watching this, I reviewed the comments (new) I'm not sure if everyone watched the entire video. Rock on Bethel live long and prosper.

God Bless you Brother! THANK YOU for EXPOSING these false prophets. I TOO in the past was BLINDED and MISLED by these false prophets and thank GOD he opened my eyes to their truth and I left them.

Numbers 15:32-36 32 While the Israelites were in the wilderness, a man was found gathering wood on the Sabbath day. 33 Those who found the man gathering wood brought him to Moses, Aaron, and the whole congregation, 34 and because it had not been declared what should be done to him, they placed him in custody. 35 And the LORD said to Moses, “The man must surely be put to death. The whole congregation is to stone him outside the camp.” 36 So the whole congregation took the man outside the camp and stoned him to death, as the LORD had commanded Moses.

Shalom men of God and many blessings to you and your beautiful families. You both said some beautiful things. I did my best to listen very carefully to what has been discussed regarding this subject matter and I do appreciate you both for taking time out to discuss this issue because the gift of prophecy has not been treated with the upmost respect by some and it has been handled as a common instrument instead of a gift that carries the breath of God. Prophet Vallotton you both stated that in the old covenant one of the roles of the prophet was to judge the people and enforce the covenant, which is true. And Prophet Vallotton you believe that in the New Testament that role changed for the prophet because of the new covenant. Yes we have been reconciled unto The Father through Jesus Christ under the new covenant but the prophet's role has not changed. Because covenant can still be broken by sin. And this is proven by the fact that we have grace. If the new covenant could not be broken by believers there would not be any need for grace. But since we all are still under processes that deal with us dying to the flesh daily, prophets are still entrusted with the task to judge sin and deal with the immorality of man. Prophets have to confront immoral behavior and sin so people can learn how to come out of it and learn how to express the true origin of their kingdom design. Prophets have a responsibility to not only judge prophetic words and prophesy, but they teach and instruct as you already know. Prophets cultivate, refine, spiritually groom, and help people develop in the image of The LORD. Prophetic believers are also entrusted to minister to the inner man in a way that helps the inner man to come into a pure and healthy transformation. Prophetic words are not to just make people feel better or make them feel encouraged. Prophetic words are to bring people into real transformations with Jesus Christ. In Matthew 5:17 Jesus said, "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill." Jesus did not only come to fulfill the law, but He came to fulfill the image of the prophet as well. Because the prophet plays an important role in the new covenant. The prophet help people come out of sin. They help people see the need for redemption. That is what the law did. Prophets move like the law. The law helped people to see their need for restoration and regeneration on the inside. And prophets move in the same fashion. They help people see the importance of being born again, and the importance of true transformation. And that cannot be done without dealing with sin and immoral behavior. Jesus came in the earth to demonstrate the true origin of man's design. Jesus used His life to show mankind how they are built to function in the earth, even in their prophetic nature. Jesus is seen moving in the prophetic and moving in the office of a prophet throughout the New Testament. He did not give only encouraging words, but He dealt with the immoral and fallen state of man. He judged cities (Matthew 11:20-24), and judged the religious sect when they said He moved in the supernatural by the way of demons (Matthew 12:24-37). Jesus gave warnings. And He showed people the importance of rebirth and being set free from behaviors and manners that were damaging and destructive to man's image and existence. Jesus was not only teaching His disciples how to move as apostles, but He also taught them how to move in the prophetic. Remember (Acts 5:1-12) when Peter was used by The LORD to rebuke and judge Ananias and his wife Sapphira for lying to The Holy Spirit? Peter was also used in the prophetic during the day of Pentacost (Acts 2:14-47). Peter not only encouraged the people during Pentacost but he dealt with the immoral nature of man and showed the people the importance of repentance and redemption. This is what prophets and prophetic people do, they point people back to Jesus Christ. They point them back to the origin of their existence. We can also see Stephen (Acts 7:49-60) moving in the prophetic in this fashion as well as Apostle Paul in the book of Acts and in the epistles. They dealt with sin and immorality as well as encouraged, exhorted, and edified. And as for edification, this word is built around cultivation and refinement. It is centered around believers coming into the image of Jesus Christ. In 1 Corinthians 14:4 it says, "he that prophesieth edifieth the church." And in verse 5 it says, "for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he interpret, that the church may receive edifying." This reveals that prophecy is about bringing people into processes with refinement and cultivation. Prophecy is designed to help people transform into the image of Jesus Christ. Edifying is about building, which is associated with the actual reconstruction of the inner man and the healthy construction of Christ's Bride. Dealing with the immorality of man is done with God's love and His grace. You made a beautiful statement about finding treasure in people. I agree with the intimate act of "finding the treasure or the gold" in a person through the gift of prophecy. People need that kind of encouragement. And people also need the truth about sin and immorality. Because to expose people to the truth about these things is to help them understand how the enemy satan has been having a foothold in their life. This helps to protect them from feeling as if they are being condemned or judged in an unlawful manner. Approaching the fallen state in this fashion gives room for them to see that Jesus Christ truly cares about the value of their existence. This promotes healthy change and real encounters with Jesus Christ. Because "for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy." Prophecy is centered around Jesus Christ. Prophecy carries the evidence of His life and image. So if a prophetic word does not enjoin a person to a relationship with Jesus Christ or a much more intimate relationship with Jesus Christ, one does have to question that prophetic word. Because prophetic words do not place the light, focus, or attention solely on the individual but on The LORD. And by the way. You were not wrong about President Trump's 2nd term.

That was Bob Dylan Kris... lol I know you probably don't even care. I was just letting you know. Thank you for being so faithful! I have been watching you all from Bethel and I LOVE every word you all put out!! God bless you! ❤

Your the king of falsehood. Cmon man.

When, is scripture did the all powerful God speak and someone misunderstood or questioned what He said. Answer: Never These men are being presumption speaking their own thoughts

lol at peeps still trying to spread misinformation about bethel when these vids exist. 🙏

What I want to know is what's the award wage for office of the prophet?

“but whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a great millstone fastened around his neck and to be drowned in the depth of the sea.” ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭18:6‬ ‭ESV

Hana from Bethel at Redding prophesied that I would go to Israel and teach about law and business (her question to the congregation, which I was the only to respond was, “Who here is thinking about Israel?”) My home church was in Israel at the time. While I have a background both in law and business, I do not know what to do about this prophecy. @bethel, what is your advice?

Prophet of God, thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience in the prophetic. I believe that many of things will be blessing to me. I heard you speak about not calling people's sins out when we deliver a prophetic word because you believe we must focus on the treasure that's in their hearts. It sound like a wonderful and encouraging thing to do. However, I have a concern about it because the word of God has reference for prophetic word that included parts where the Lord sent someone with a message that called out their sins and the need for them to come back into alignment with His word. I have read such prophetic words in Revelation 2: 1 - 3: 22. The apostle John received these prophetic words directly from the Lord Jesus Christ. You have given us the interpretation of the word "treasures," however, I have not heard you provide sufficient scriptures to back up your teaching concerning how we should focus more on not giving prophetic words that call people's sins out. The scriptures from the book of Revelation do include parts where the Lord gives the churches a way they can be reconciled with Him. Your content on the prophetic is very enlightening. However, this time I don't agree with what you are teaching because it does not provide me with adequate scripture to follow your revelation. The prophet Samuel had the habit of calling people's sins out and Saul was one of those individuals. You said that God told you that you needed to deliver prophetic words the way He intended for you to do it. Help to understand how the scriptures from the book of Revelation should be applied when we deliver prophetic words.

My God I'm in tears because of that last bit Chris, thank you for sharing that. Through your ministry, the Spirit enlightened to me that I'm mainly a seer then I also hear from the Lord - I've always been wondering where do I fall between seeing, feeling, knowing and hearing 🙏 God bless you. From South Africa ❤️

New & better covenant! Truth is always True what r u talking about ? Our pastor has never taught this strange idea you guys have! Jesus said - I have come to Re-establish the Law not to erase it ! What r u people talking about I will pray for you - directly with God (no intermediary is ever needed- The True God is All hearing - no one has a monopoly on this)

There are some scriptures in the Old Testament I specifically talk about false prophecy that affects both the Old and New Covenants first of all the one in Deuteronomy 13 when the word of the false prophets come to pass you'll recognize them when they want you to go worship other gods and then it says God is testing you Jeremiah 23 is a very easy one for me to fall find false prophets Jeremiah 23:22 but if they had stood in my Council and had caused my people to turn from their evil ways and from the evil of their doings and Jeremiah 23:29 is not my word as a fire saith the Lord and like a hammer that taketh the rock into pieces? Fire cleanses and purges and the hammer that breaks the frog is breaking bondage has the word of God that comes both from the prophet and out of the mouths of anybody and even the Bible will cleanse asperges friend break bondages That is how to spot a false prophet is that they will turn you from other gods and they will not repent of their sins and turn from their Wicked Ways and they will not cause the people to do so Also in Isaiah 8:20 to the law and to the Testimony ,if they speak not according to this word, it is because their is no light in them. The scripture is talking about the law is the word of God and keep his Commandments and the testimony is a testimony of Jesus Christ in Revelations 12:17 Matthew 22:37 don't show love the Lord my God with all thy heart and with all thy soul and with all thy mind Matthew 22:38 and the second is like unto it ,though shall love thy neighbor as thyself Matthew 22:40 on these two commandments hang the law and the prophets If you notice it says these two scriptures handle on the prophets they fulfill them you cannot obey all the Ten Commandments without first doing the two greatest Commandments the first four Commandments of the Ten Commandments fulfill the greatest commandment the last six fulfilled the second greatest Commandments because love never hurts anybody and God is love but if we do not obey the Commandments then we do not show we fear God nor do we show that we love God there is no such thing as an old-time prophet and a new Prophet they're all the same it's all one book to believe otherwise is deception you need the Holy Spirit to understand the word of God and if you do not have understanding you will not have the power of God which is God in you which is the Holy Spirit Sardis in Revelation 21:3 also had no understanding Job 28:28 says understanding is to depart from evil And Proverbs 21:16 the man that wandereth away from understanding shall remain in the congregation of the dead. If you're in the congregation of the Dead then you do not have the Holy Spirit if you do not have the Holy Spirit than you will not make it to heaven I hope you really really sick the Lord on this because you're wrong and you really need to repent I'll keep you guys in prayer

God helps you, he guides you he stops you from doing things that may endanger you One thing you should never do is prophecy a false truth, one you have spoken and that the Lord has not No matter what, whether you think it's true or not, NEVER prophecy anything You are not God's prophet there for you should speak lies in his name

He first states that if you can prophecy dosnt mean you have a good relationship with God. Then states that anyone can prophecy becouse its a gift from the Holy spirit and you have the spirit in you? Im confused by this

It could also be a word of knowledge or wisdom in prayer, not a prophetic word

I have good Christian friends who don’t research or believe anything unless they hear it from a prophet They have to hear it from a astor

Mathew 24:34 A false prophet said: "Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. "

That Elijah was John the baptizer!

There's spiritual, there's super spiritual, and hyper spiritual. I think the super spiritual is criticizing the hyper spiritual when the OT prophets are just spiritual.

You should’ve used scripture to back up everything you said. Your friend asked you many questions but you didn’t have scripture to support your answers.

Psalm 105:15

32:50 Ephesians Chpt 3 doesn't mention manifold grace either. It is about manifold or multifaceted Wisdom. Using that to support a weird "multi-grace" interpretation that really has no other expounding text is probably not a good idea.

God bless you I love bethel church This is so encouraging

The prophets also council Jesus.

These RU-vid prophets are the absolute worse. Especially the ones that claim God sent them a message about a particular celeb🙄🙄🙄

You guys moving the goal post. The only way to judge a Prophet is this... does he prophesy right or false. Simple. That's it. God doesn't lower His standard because of the old or the new Testament. God is the same yesterday, today and forever. You can have a great character but be a false Prophet. You can have a thriving Church but be false teacher. Also the scripture about prophesying in part doesn't say prophesying falsely, it means that God doesn't give you the whole picture but He still requires that you prophecy that part accurately. Your conversation is filled, sad to say with a lot of excuses. A false Prophet speaks falsely. With your comments you just added more self-appointed RU-vid prophets, you lowered the standard. By the way consider the love and severity of God which keeps you in the Fear of God. True PROPHETS give you the whole counsel of God. God warned very sternly NOT to add to His Words. The reason why the prophetic movement has such a bad reputation and lacks credibility is because of false prophesies and missing major world events that happened. The grace of God here it is .......For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men, teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly in the present age, Titus 2:11‭-‬12 NKJV The true PROPHETS need to walk and act under the true grace of God. Denying ungodliness, prophesying righteously, NOT falsely. My God, why is this so hard to understand because you making excuses for yourself.

How come so many of these supposed Christian prophets were wrong about Donald Trump's 2nd term? Prophet or profit?

So where in the bible does it say a new testament prophet from an old testament prophet ??? How is a spirit filled Prophet less accurate then a pre-cross prophet ??? Mat 11:11 Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.

Its ok for God to speak or show you turn right or turn left

This attitude of saying we have an R&d culture with respect to prophecy is very dangerous and unbiblical. It is unbiblical in the 1st Corinthians says to desire the greater gifts (1Co.12:31), but nowhere does it say you can practice and experiment, assuming you have the gift. It clearly says that the Spirit gives the gift as he desires (1Co.12: 11, 18, 28-30). Also the scripture is very careful to say that any prophesied needs to be judged on the spot with others bearing witness, and to readily reject false words, to protect the gift and protect the one behind ministered to. (1Co.14:27-29) It is also unbiblical in the sense that tongues is a gift to prevent and accompany prophecy as a witness to it and safeguard from generating your own thoughts and claiming them divine. If a person cannot yield themselves to the Spirit to allow Him to give him words he cannot understand, how is that person to be trusted to be given words he can understand?? These are gifts and not toys to be played with. They are holy and not common and base. It is dangerous psychologically, in that when you were asking people to stretch out with their imaginations, and guess, with their thoughts... the person develops no discernment between their the voice of their own thoughts and the voice of the Lord. There is no sense of reverence for the fear of the Lord, no check in the spirit to take the name of the Lord in vain, but actual encouragement to do so. The immeasurable damage, done to people receiving false words and giving false words is huge. This is recklessness.

“If we don’t say it, it may not happen”, “word of knowledge” - That’s Gnosticism. On the flip side, if you say it and it doesn’t happen, is that just “not hearing clearly”, “getting wires crossed”, or even “people didn’t have faith” or, as scripture says, that’s a false prophet? Seems like there’s a lot of power but not as much accountability?

Here’s some problems: the role of prophet never changed The New Testament states that a man will repent when the secrets of his heart are disclosed, his secret sins But no one can tell you these things because you have so built your position so as to be impervious to rebuke and sound doctrine. You also can’t build doctrine off of one verse. Just saying the ministry of reconciliation means you can’t call out sin is a super stretch. But who cares about this comment right?

40:14 Mm, Timothy also says nothing about the elders giving a gift. Reading through several translations you'll find that it was the holy spirit imparting gifts. It was not a gift of one person being shared to another. The original text just says that laid hands, cheirotonia, which isn't some sort of transfering power. Its saying what we do, and they just prayed to the spirit.

I do believe prophetic words are from the spirit world not God!

Oof. Marker 55:18 Corinthians 25:14 uses the word Krypta for secrets. There is no way to misinterpret this for the commonly used thesauros, treasure. Considering this is used throughout the New Testament is a sense of the hidden things will be brought to light, shameful hidden deeds, it really seems like this means sin, not treasure. It is not the treasure in the heart of man that leads to repentance, but a recognition of the Grace that covers there sins. So, in essence, 100% wrong about the salvation brought to the unbelievers who here prophecy. Now we can talk about bad interpretation leading to bad implementation and the streets ministry that bethel is familiarized with. You see the problem here being the pride of man. I am man, i have treasures and goodness in abundance, therefor I worship God....nope. This is the core of christianity. You can pervert it from the start and expect to have a wholesome ministry.

Read the scriptures and give the verses, rather then refer to the scriptures.

Deuteronomy 18:21-22 You may say to yourselves, "How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the LORD?" If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the LORD does not take place or come true, that is a message the LORD has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously, so do not be alarmed."

Yikes

The elders did not "give" Timothy that gift, it was prophesied ABOUT HIM from God THROUGH the elders so that Timothy would know about it. God gave him that gift, they didn't impart it to him from their spirit, that is nonsense! And when Paul says "that I may impart to you sone spiritual gift" he means USING HIS gift to benefit the congregation. Not passing some gift on.

Why is Kris trying to teach anything on prophecy?

Poor biblical teachings such as this is why so many false prophets exist.

Wow, so many misinterpretations of Scripture and systematized illogical to build this heretical theology of word of faith and justify the thousands of false prophecies spewing forth from these people, all "in Jesus's name." It's absolutely sickening.

I wish Dan would let Kris finish talking...I feel he's talking over Kris too much or rushing him to finish his train of thought

Pay careful attention to yourselves and to all the flock, in which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to care for the church of God, which he obtained with his own blood. I know that after my departure fierce wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock; and from among your own selves will arise men speaking twisted things, to draw away the disciples after them. I coveted no one's silver or gold or apparel. You yourselves know that these hands ministered to my necessities and to those who were with me. In all things I have shown you that by working hard in this way we must help the weak and remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he himself said, 'It is more blessed to give than to receive.'" Acts 20:28‭-‬30‭, ‬33‭-‬35 ESV False teachers lead you after THEMSELVES for their own GAIN. They're more interested in maintaining reputation than preaching sound doctrine.

23:50 believe there are more gifts than the bible list? Like secret knowledge? How many feet do ya'll got left to shoot?

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How do I laugh at this harder than I am...good luck judge....you've already been judged

If Christ died "as us," doesn't that negate entirely my future judgement? I don't have to worry about dying should I stray from obedience?

I have very serious doubts whether Bethel Church is even of the Lord, given it's lust for worldly power and control. Is it perhaps there's only a 'form of godliness' which precludes such fleshly intent? It appears to me you folks worship the religion in Christ's Name more than the Lord Himself - this is pure self-righteousness. There's still time to repent.

lots of holes in the truth but at least yal trying

You guys make me furious. You lied about gemstones falling and gold dust. You gave false prophecies. You are gaslighting people.

Galatians1:6-10 I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you to live in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse! As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let them be under God’s curse! Am I now trying to win the approval of human beings, or of God? Or am I trying to please people? If I were still trying to please people, I would not be a servant of Christ.

You guys are speaking at Sunday School level....please dont dilute the Word ..and confuse the gifts of the Spirit....sit at the feet of genuine Prophets to understand the gift....

Unbelievable, so much blasphemy. Run to the word of God in your knees.. No to these liars and false teachers. Gospel is about repentance no about miracles. Run from these places, run🙏

This guy is not a prophet. Geez. Stop being fooled and read your Bible.

You’ve been prophesying for so long why don’t you show us documented proof of your prophecies fulfilled. Oh yeah that’s because all your prophesies have been wrong. Bethel has the worst track record of prophecies not being fulfilled.

If you’re interviewing don’t become the interviewee lol that’s annoying

You can't give five-fold gifts....that has to be a purely God initiated word...btw God does not call contrary to His word thus every woman that has been called as a teacher, pastor or apostle through any charismatic church including Bethel is the result of false prophecy. The word is clear and charismatics should be consistent and not put experience over the word. They don't let lack of experience diminish their faith in regard to seeking clearly biblical experiences nor should they let "supposed examples of 5-fold women" diminish the clear design in relation to gender in the word of God.

“You know, when I first heard you were a prophet I thought they weren’t making those any more!” Correct. The only ones that exist are False Prophets, who prophesy falsely in the name of a God they do not fear, they attempt to command, and falsely lead away sheep from the true Gospel of Jesus Christ. Repent.

The six hundred three score and six. You have been numbered, weighed and divided 23 But hast lifted up thyself against the Lord of heaven; and they have brought the vessels of his house before thee, and thou, and thy lords, thy wives, and thy concubines, have drunk wine in them; and thou hast praised the gods of silver, and gold, of brass, iron, wood, and stone, which see not, nor hear, nor know: and the God in whose hand thy breath is, and whose are all thy ways, hast thou not glorified: 24 Then was the part of the hand sent from him; and this writing was written. 25 And this is the writing that was written, Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin. 26 This is the interpretation of the thing: Mene; God hath numbered thy kingdom, and finished it. 27 Tekel; Thou art weighed in the balances, and art found wanting. 28 Peres; Thy kingdom is divided, and given to the Medes and Persians.