@@EthosElectronic i love drum machines. Have many older ones, and currently have Analog Rytm, Machinedrum, Tempest, Tanzbar, Jomox and some modules like Tubuttec 606 etc. I think that “weight” that comes from Tanzbar kick is next to none (also worth mentioning the hats on Tanzbar as probably the best too). Tempest can come close with lots of programing, Jommox can also do it somewhat, but the Tanzbar kick is one of a kind.