well, I'm sure in his and his father's minds what they did was reasonable. This is the stark difference between certain areas of the deep South, and quite literally the rest of the Southern US and the USA as a whole.
@@gfexc A judge did not dismiss charges against OJ Simpson. A jury of his peers found him not guilty because a glove that was found at the murder scene did not fit his hand. Incidentally, the crowd outside the courthouse was not cheering because they felt OJ Simpson was innocent, they were cheering because they were overjoyed that white Americans finally got a dose of their own medicine.
_"We were just trying to ask him some questions."_ Excuse me, but you don't chase someone around a neighborhood with a shotgun for five minutes, just to ask them questions!
And if you can't then don't lie when you're put to the fire over it. I'd like to know if Goff will ask for a mistrial cos daddy was crying in front of the jury? Guess not!!!
Victoria- And may I add, daddy shouldn't have passed his racist believes on to his son. Let's not kid ourselves, racism played a major part in this. I doubt very seriously if a white guy would've been chased and shot even if they saw him stealing.
Sounds like a toxic neighbourhood- everybody videoing and watching everybody. Suspecting and expecting trouble, with guns at the ready- What an awful way to live. I feel sorry for the children seeing these pitiful adults as examples
I bet Amazon an Uber eats got there neighbor hood as a no go zone the lady with the husband is the one to blame she drummed up the drama on the group chat thing
"The most dramatic experience in my life"....? Well imagine being chased by total strangers riding in Trucks with Guns and they keep blocking your escape and then you're SHOT DEAD.
@@nicholastautuhi5031 If you watch his callous comments, & actions afterwards, "traumatic" might be _somewhat_ true but 'triumphant' is more accurate!! They posted gloating & racist comments and photos of Arbery's body on Social Media afterwards! *Truly Despicable.*
I guess he thought it would be great to shoot an actual person. Sad. It looks like he and his dad are used to strong arming some people. They just got surprised Mr. Arbery pushed back somehow. I feel they were caught by surprise on that one. I am Asian and from Asia. Dunno why this case got to me. Somehow, I figuratively wanna slap these fools. I am sorry if it is inappropriate to comment.
@@larrybee7713 good term: when you are groomed with a perception that anything in the world within your purview is your business; then it makes no sense to you when some one tells you to mind your business.
Can we all sit back and appreciate being the presence of pure brilliance!!! This prosecutor is probably one of the most intelligent prosecutors I have ever witnessed
She should teach law students. Even someone with a naturally reactive personality could learn to act neutral and casual. And given to long periods of silence. Silence is unnerving.
Right! Can you imagine chasing someone jogging down a public street with a 12 Gage Shot Gun & .357 Mag then ramming the person with your vehicle and call it "self defense" LOL! The fact they had firearm weapons drawn on Arbery qualifies as "Assault with a Deadly Weapon" that typically carries a 5 Year Prison term!
EXACTLY open & unsecured! The owner said HE STOLE NOTHING!!! It’s disgusting their actions over assumptions…. I hope they enjoy jail and cold cell blocks !!!
If you had guidelines for when to break into a house a sunny Sunday afternoon would be worst case scenario. Glad these people will never get out of prison.
@@TheArchersTungsten to implying he had an intent to firing their gun during chasing, thus nullify their self defense claim. And also portraying the struggle not as an unexpected turn of event but portraying them as vigilantes who advocate violence and love violence. In fact, the whole conversation is to demonize them into a stereotype violence advocating's vigilantes. That's why she kept insisting "it's a very dangerous" act even it doesn't. Why he didn't stop his father for such "dangerous act" etc. No sane person would thought such petty crime confrontation would escalate to cost a person's life. This is not a mafia movie with millions drug involved, but that's what she portraying. You probably had a higher chance of met with a lunatic new neighbors in an icebreaking meet and greet than confronting a petty crime theft.
I could tell when his own attorney was questioning him that the prosecutor was going to tear him apart. I kept thinking, he must have insisted that he get to testify otherwise his council would have never allowed it. Surely they did some instructions and lots of practice testifying.....but it sure didn't show.
She got him. Especially when she said "you didn't think to say that this a really bad idea and we should just call 911" and he said "I didn't" but he said that his dad had already called 911 before he got in the truck
All three of them are crazy as hell. Imagine chasing someone through your neighborhood with a gun, and they haven't done anything to you. I'm glad they're going to prison.
@@MrMisterdc Even worse for William. He just saw them drive by, pulled out and tried to block Ahmad a couple of times and now 30+ years in life. I wonder what he thinks of the McMichaels. I still haven't figured out if they knew each other and met regularly, or just on a "I've seen them around" basis.
Travis & his father’s words, before, during & after the execution of this young man, represents hate filled & racist souls residing in both men. Maybe they forgot it is no longer “Legal” to execute black people in Georgia. I was so damn impressed with the prosecutor & the judge!
"I thought there was probable cause" " I was going out there to investigate" he obviously thought he had some sort of jurisdiction over Ahmaud and in general which is insane you'd think he was a police officer.
As silly as that statement sounds, I'm trying to figure if this in any way could be plausible in the eyes of a juror in accordance with the law and reasonableness. The objective reality is that if any juror feels that Travis's actions were justified as self-defense, they're blatantly abandoning the law.
@Harry V did anyone get shot at that business? Did Kyle have just as much right as anyone from blm to be there? Did Kyle continue firing after he defended himself against the pedo the domestic abuser and the guy with a Glock? Who was really looking for trouble was it the people burning and looting or the guys there to protect?
She wasn't fishing for answers . She was cornering him. Whereas he couldn't lie. Sick dad & terrible racist son. Probably paying for protection in prison. So tragic that Amaud Arbery had to perish at the hands of these cowards. Their prison cells will forever be soil with a garbage tenant.
Off the rip when his dad came in yelling about the matter going on he should’ve told his father let the police take care of it. Point blank This was not a citizens arrest it was murder
@@vikeyshamurray7553 All this behind property that's not even yours. No way in hell l would drag my kid into some bulls***. When you grab a gun you're prepared to use it. So, they were prepared to kill over some sheetrock???
@@vikeyshamurray7553 From your lips to God's ears that this man goes to jail. Unfortunately, this is Gerogia and I am not hopeful the family of Mr. Ahmad will get the justice they deserve. Still prayerful though.
I can guarantee that Travis McMichael is giving evidence against his lawyers advice, the very last thing a defence lawyer wants is a defendant on the stand being cross examined.
McMurder, Jr. keeps talking about his stress and trauma as if he is the victim rather than the perpetrator. Him and his ilk all belong in prison. R.I.P. Ahmaud Arbery🪻
Thinking is not Travis’s strong suit. All Travis heard was “Black man running” and that’s all he needed to go into action because Travis is a meek individual controlled by his father. Nobody gets out of a vehicle with a shotgun to talk.
I worked in customer service for years and one thing I know is when you let people speak freely they will tell you everything. They often don’t understand they are talking to much.
That has always been my strategy when it comes to dating men. I just let em talk. A person will tell you everything you need to know about them. Just let them talk🙃
@@morrisbrown2043 they gotta serve 30 years minimum before their even eligible for parole. The daddy & neighbor will DEFINITELY DIE in prison. I feel gr8 about that. The son won't last 30 years. He's not built for that. U can see it in his face
The prosecuter lady completely wiped the floor with all the defence lawyers it was like they were completely unarmed, this lady really is the goat she's amazing
@@crand20033 He wasn't the only one to stop & look at the property being built so why didn't they chase anyone else. The owner said that he stole nothing, the video only showed him looking just like everyone else who stopped & looked.
They said that to get sympathy from the jury, if his daddy was that sick he wouldn’t be racing around like that looking for trouble he’d be resting at home taking it easy minding his own business
It really bothers me that there's a demographic of people who really believe they can just randomly become a cop and apprehend you based on a suspicion they have about you Ahmad Aubry could have been any of us.
These guys were definitely hunting ... they both wanted to be cops and "protect" their neighborhood. Nothing wrong with that, but they did it their way -- their own suspicions, no proof needed, and carrying for their own "protection". Travis didn't even think he'd be taken in by the real police who came after he shot & killed Ahmaud Arbery
@beeb, did you see the prosecutor's closing statement? She had video of Travis's truck heading down the road toward Arbery, and THEN the neighbor points down the road after Travis had already took off in the truck. Travis even lied about that. He was going to chase Ahmaud regardless of whether someone pointed down the road. Only way he could've seen the man pointing was in his own rearview mirror.
Brilliant. Her just walking away, not responding to his incoherent ramblings is just brilliant. Her use of silence, brilliant. I need to know more about this woman!
She had time to prepare the questions amd she followed through. She's certainly competent, but these are very standard questions amd manor for any competent prosecutor
What Arbery did is classified as a "Class C Misdemeanor." In other words, if the police had caught him inside that house, they would not have arrested him. They would've told him to leave and not come back. They would've also asked to see his driver's licenses. The surveillance video shows Arbery five different times at that house, and not once was he seen stealing anything!
There's a lot of circumstance on this case which you're NOT acknowledging. They got too gungho, they should've monitored at distance, while waiting for the police, but they had valid reason to try to get Arbery to talk given the five videotaped incidences over several months, plus the Feb. 11 incident at which 911 was called. Arbery was also known as the Robber Jogger by nearby convenience stores, and, had schizo-affective psycho disorder,…. and had a substantial criminal record,…. and was on probation.
@@bonsummers2657 who are they to get Arbery to talk especially when you said that they should have monitored his movement. Monitoring a person's movement does not include getting a possible suspect to talk when they themselves are in a civilian capacity
@@alexisbattle1555 BULLSHIT. He was lurking multiple times, mostly at night. If he was white, did all the same incidents and behaviors as Ahmaud,… same result. Stop YOUR racism.
There's a lot of circumstance on this case which you're NOT acknowledging. They got too gungho, they should've monitored at distance, while waiting for the police, but they have valid reason to try get Arbery to talk given the five videotaped incidences over several months, plus the Feb. 11 incident at which 911 was called. Arbery was also known as the Robber Jogger by nearby convenience stores, and, had schizo-affective psyche disorder,…. and had a substantial criminal record,…. and was on probation.
Georgia is known for keeping "rap partners" from communicating with each other ... Once they leave the diagnostic center in Jackson Georgia the odds they will never see or speak to each other, are so high I'd take that bet ...
@@johndraper3210 Where is your outrage of mass shootings by white supremacists like in El Paso or Las Vegas? Or even shootings of other white people with Rittenhouse?
@@percyvaughan *I'M TOO BUSY WORKING... PAYING MY BILLS...RAISING MY THREE MIXED HISPANIC AND WHITE KID'S... WITH MY HISPANIC WIFE OF 17 YEARS...I TRY AND LIVE A GOOD LIFE...TEACHING MY KID'S TO RESPECT ALL PEOPLE...RACES AND RELIGIONS...I TREAT EVERYONE WITH RESPECT...I CAN'T CONTROL OTHER PEOPLE'S ACTIONS...I CAN ONLY CONTROL MINE*
For a citizens arrest a crime has to be witnessed they did not witness a crime therefore everything committed after the citizens arrest is considered felony kidnapping. Which means it is felony murder and there is no self defence claim.
@@nalabishop402 1. that was never witnessed by either of the defendants, 2. even if it had been it would simply be misdemeanour trespassing as it was a construction property uninhabited and he didn’t steal anything. 3. That does not justify murder you dipshit. I can’t believe I actually found someone defending these guys.
From what I know, you can still detain someone if you reasonably believe a crime was committed. However, you had better be positive, or else you can be charged with false imprisonment or some other crime, depending on state law. The whole issue will end up coming down to self-defense, and I know that at least in Wisconsin, even provocation does not forfeit the right to use deadly force if you believe your life is in danger, which could very possibly apply here as well.
@@thegamsta7133 Your last sentence implies that a pedestrian could abruptly cross in front of a moving vehicle and legally shoot the driver with a self-defense claim because he felt the vehicle was a threat to his life. (A person can't instigate a situation then play victim). This is no different than Travis testifying that he aggressively chased Arbery down, including changing paths of direction in order to interfere with Arbrey's attempt to avoid him. Gets out of the vehicle with shotgun without announcing who he was or what his concerns with Arbery were, while blocking Arbery....then say "self-defense" when Arbery fights the deadly shotgun threat that he (McMichael) chose to pose. If a vehicle was chasing you and you feel the occupants are gonna rob or kill you, will you think it's justifiable for them to kill if you choose to fight your way out of the situation? And their justification is that you defending yourself from their aggressively unknown intentions made you the threat that needed to be killed.
'The guy that broke into the house'....you mean the house under construction with no doors , windows, floors, drywall etc. No breaking required. Multiple groups walked around the construction site.
@@normanbraslow7902 no it isn't lmao. It's an open construction site with zero signs, and no security. And unless the OWNER files a complaint there is no trespassing
@Scouts Honor whether or not that's true doesn't even matter lmao 1. they've never met him nor know his supposed record, 2. They never saw him commit a crime, they just suspected and the owner of the house said arbery never stole anything(he had cameras) 3. They are not cops 4. Even if he did, he should be having a fair trail just like them not dead in the middle of the street because they took it upon themselves to chase him down for 5 minutes and then get out of their trucks pointing weapons at him. White ppl are not deputies to police officers
Not really when the defendants are dumb asses who didn’t know a damn thing about lethal use of force, self defense for citizens and when it’s authorized or legal. Which is far, few and between in most cases but it’s there. And the only time one can really shoot a fleeing suspect is one, the trigger puller had to have witnessed a heinous act and the suspect positively identified and they better be a imminent threat to everyone and anything if they’re not stopped on top of, you better make it known you’re the good guy before you shoot. And that’s just one aspect in a very complex topic. A lot easier when you’re law enforcement because it’s expected of you to get into physical altercations and stop dangerous people who might be bigger, heavier and stronger than you more often than not.
@@clashon4life843 Is that the best you got? 😂 cuz if it is, you better take your white privileged ass back to your safe space on tumblr. You can’t handle Deez Nutz, 🖕🏽loser!
@@wildside4822 - *You have to be a damn child making that kind of stupid comment! Little boy, would you be a match up against three men with guns, and you have nothing to protect yourself? Please don't answer! Those cowards that murdered Ahmaud weren't a match for the prosecutor, because she technically sent all those cowards to prison for life. She was awesome, brilliant and deserves a Medal, a Badge of Honor. SUPERD!!!*
What caused his Father to get so excited? Well, could it be because he had a "clear shot" of a "black guy"....that's why he got so excited. He didn't wait for police he went into full vigilante mode and took the shot.
it doesn’t matter what he was doing why was it any of your business? If he wasn’t in your home or on your property? It’s called mind your business people like Travis and his father with the mindset they have belong right where they’re at.
So his daddy lied to him and told him the 911 was already on the phone which in fact he never called him so his son is going off of what his father told him 🤔 ok
His Travis' mother KAREN McMichael will probably continue teaching his son hate and racism. As will his ex wife/mother of the child.:( Well karma will get all of them eventually.
I just like to say I'm a gun-loving American Republican these guys are guilty regardless or what the guy did they did not have the right to pursue him detain him in any fashion under any state laws
It pains me to say this but the whole defense case is based on a citizen's arrest law. Under that law if the factors are correct they can and are arguing they had a right to detain him. I don't believe them and I don't think the jury will believe them but that is the defense.
It's was a smart move, leaving the jury to think about how much Travis has changed his story over night and she gets to come in pick him apart in the morning.
@@Foontflaky right he will not be able to sleep thinking about. Why did I get on the stand to tell my side. She is going in hard tomorrow . Got to set my clock I will not miss one minute
Well you get to a point in your life where you need to shake off the bullshit your parents instill in you no one is perfect they are just people too they can be wrong.
The whole citizens arrest thing was a thing the defense came up with. These dudes had no idea about citizens arrest they just decided they were judge jury and executioner. It’s a good thing it’s taken off the books now.
They are setting the ground work.for an appeal bid later down the road in the appeals court to get thier convictions overturned. Every stop will be pulled out to get all their conviction voided, just like Amber guy ger defense attorneys are doing. The Complexion for No accountability Protection. Yet the Righteous Just Judge ABBA YHWH and YHWHSHUA do not bow down to mankind. You can be excused on Earth but Sheoul has no respect of persons Sin is Punished for Eternity.
Travis. Since you honestly think this was perfectly okay for you to do, let me give you a little scenario that might change your opinion: According to you, it is perfectly acceptable if 3 guys in prison corner YOU to a spot you can't escape. They THINK you MIGHT HAVE stolen their soups. They are screaming threats to you. One of them hits you. Your fight or flight instinct kicks in, and you try to fight them off. They Stab you. They don't get in trouble cause they said they were just acting self-defense against you. If you think what you did to Ahmaud was okay, you should be okay with this if it happens to you in prison.
Strange that the 3 stooges and neighbors claim that there was so much crime in their neighborhood yet they leave guns and purses laying around in their UNLOCKED vehicles, who does that even in a safe neighborhood? That alone tells me that they are exaggerating crime in their neighborhood or they’re just careless or dumb or both, seem as though they care more about the property under construction than their own property. Btw who leaves a gun in an unlocked vehicle on New Years Eve or any eve? Prosecutor need to stop letting Travis get away with saying Arbery was breaking into that house especially since it was open and under construction without any No Trespassing signs posted
In the construction world it is an invitation....no fences, gates, no doors, no windows.......no signs. FOR YEARS........Even after knowing he would be responsible for anyone getting hurt on the property he left it wide open. Come on in.
@Scouts Honor huh. They straight up chased down and killed a black man who was jogging and you think they’re only on trial for political reasons??? If that’s the case you just proved systemic racism exists
@Scouts Honor Political reasons? They chased down a black man who had committed NO crime. Instead of just calling 911, they cornered Arbery and shot him in cold blood.
The part where she got him to explain the extra steps he had to consciously take to ready his gun before shooting, letting him think he was proving her wrong that he was able to kill people in two simple steps, was genius.
Amazing what she did,I saw this already, but after the sentencing I want to watch it again because she's brilliant and and calmly setting him up out of his own mouth.
I’ve worked in residential construction for the last 25 years. Curious people always look around job sites after work. This guy was murdered for no reason except for being black.
Same, while building in an area or development, all kinds of people, singles, couples, potential residents, under contract persons, WALK ALL OVER new inprocess construction. SO true.
@Susel It's only wrong (illegal) if you must pass through a barrier (like a fence) or if an obvious no tresppasing sign is posted. The defence was grasping at straws and the prosecutor knew it.
Him and his father were dumb as hell. How can you break into something that had no doors or windows? Trespassing maybe but it wasn't your property and no signs up saying no Trespassing. The owner of the property had already stated he had never taken anything. All of you B enjoy your new home up state
I think probably because their case was so bad, they had nothing to lose at that point. So they threw the dice hoping one or two jurors would be moved to hang the jury. Unlikely--but what else did they have? Another possibility is their own lawyers were so disgusted with their clients, they let the men testify to hang themselves.
It would be nice to read minds maybe deep down the defence lawyers are thinking dam yokos hurry up and get these guys convicted i need to see my family and hug them and thank god im not in their shoes dumbasses.
he's still pretty upset about the gun that was stolen from his vehicle! Wonder if it was loaded and on safety in the truck? Guessing it wasn't and thank god his son didn't find it! Trying to come off as a caring trained kinda road police officer wtf? Pathetic how they try to say this loser has so much "training"! It's gonna bite them in the butt tomorrow when she drags his ass through cross!!!! CAN'T FRIGGIN' WAIT!!! got popcorn and beer :)
@Trumped Huh? "Y'all" and other slang words are not exclusive to black people. In fact, it is believed that the word originated from "Ye aw", a slang term used by the Scottish & Irish immigrants in the 1800s. In fact, when you google "Ye aw", "Y'all" immediately pops up. Also, it seems some other southern slang came from them like "yous/youse". After all, slaves learned how to speak english from the people who knew english, no? You're welcome for correcting your ignorance. I wonder, if using slang is trying to be black, am I trying to be white because of my grammar?
I hired an ex female prosecutor on a case. Years ago whoi turned Perry Mason and she was the best. Didnt win the case but what a negotiator for me. Used her fir a family member and she waz the best. These defense lawyers were the worst Ive ever seen cor this type of case. They couldnt even zeg it uo cor am appeal which tbey auto get but michael zhot himsf in the toe nails. Now. hes got to toe the line he made cor the. Crew. Remj ds me of mississippi burning.
Im white and this was a fair trial eith an honezt verdict. No one desires to be shot for jogging. Hez frivht he was all over thd place. Now his ass is all over the place. Karma has a crazy way of coming down on violent racist. He cooked himself when he played accute John Wayne. syndrome as a rabid guard dog self appointed in the hood. Yes mamm we were running late for our clucker meeting at our house. Film at 11
@Trumped You don't know much about southerners. Most of what black people do up north that is considered Black is just normal down here. You know why Soul Food Restaurants are all up North? It's because down here they are just called restaurants.
