No shade, I actually agree with this. If you want to be in the music and post production profession then find a way to learn pro tools. If you want work, own pro tools. Otherwise it’s the Wild West for whatever you use for media creation.
1000%. Thanks for watching and your comment! That was the point of my video. It was never meant to infer that Pro Tools was the best or only way to create great music as some have taken. I appreciate your comment very much!
It depends on what you mean by “professional studio” cause there’s only a handful of those left. I loved what you said about Billie Ellish. That’s the world of today: great art will always find its way.
@danielbryant3323 Thanks for watching and the comment! I should have said Commercial Studio as the line is really blurred nowadays between Commercial and Pro studios. I know many that have complete studio build outs in separate buildings on their property. Others have a room in their house and do Pro level work. It really can be done anywhere by anyone with the skill nowadays. Even on a tour bus!😂
@@ChrisJustice Absolutely! And I agree with your overall point about Pro Tools being the most commonly used DAW in big budget scenarios, but like you said: great art is being made in many different ways. I can’t wait to see how it plays out with the changes Avid makes in the future.
One thing your right about is that every “professional” uses pro tools, It’s simply for convenience. Pro tools leads in this space only due to the fact they’re one of the pioneers in the digital recording era. Every major recording studio uses pro tools and if your going to with others “professional” it would be wise to be heavily proficient in pro tools rather for tracking, or mixing. Until DAW conveniency changes. Studio one is my primary recording DAW
@nimictheproducer8093 Thanks for watching and your comment! I agree that the reason they lead is because they were the first. Have they become complacent and even arrogant? YES! Thanks also for sharing your primary DAW being Studio One. I have heard great things about it but haven't had a need, also really the time to dive into a 4th DAW. I have used Logic and Luna occasionally. Did you come from Pro Tools to Studio One? Or something else? If so how was the transition?
Finally a video in which a more realistic perspective is being shared. Avid gets sold and everyone starts bashing at it like crap and it makes no sense. Avid has always had their game in the professional leagues sort of speak, TV and film as well as large studio facilities. Sure we can learn other platforms but in my case even though I’m a home studio producer, I’m so proficient with Pro Tools that thinking of switching to something else makes me not to because of the amount of time that would mean to me. And I’m not even in the great leagues yet… so imagine those that are. Let see what the future holds for Avid and hopefully it will become greater in the future.
Thanks for the comment! I agree so many videos don't tell the story that Pro Tools was built as a professional platform while also shaming anyone that still uses it. Sure it isn't perfect but many things aren't. That is what led me to make this video. Thanks for watching!
@makximumlive Thanks for watching and the comment! I am open and do occasionally work in Logic. I will definitely switch when something else becomes the standard at the places I work and what I need to use to be most productive.
Pro Tools user here. Started with Sound Designer. Avid has me looking at other DAWs all the time since the subscription debacle. That said, I am really fast with it and have too much to do to make a switch. I really hope this is a change to better management. At least 32 tracks. 🙂 I did albums on 1 inch 8 track. The first jump to 8 tracks was double. lol
Thanks for watching! I go way back with Pro Tools as well. I agree the subscription prices are steep for Avid. There are many more affordable and capable options out there as well. That said, you summed it up though in that the workflow and speed which you have become capable of in Pro Tools makes it a hard switch. I love that you did albums on 8 track! I had a 4 track cassette growing up and cut my teeth in the all analog world coming up through pro studios. Pro Tools existed but was not as dominant. I will never forget putting up 4 track tapes from the 60's on a long re-release project I worked on. The music was amazing! I am sure you can relate from your days on 8 tracks. You just gave me an idea for another video. Thanks for your comment!!
Thanks for watching and your comment! It could be! Presonus makes great stuff and always has. I am not sure if they are but they should shift some marketing towards taking on AVID head on in the Commercial Studio world. Just because we use Pro Tools doesn't mean we think it is perfect or the best.
Did they add sandboxing yet? After two years of D1 5 never really being stable with a number of plugins, I abandoned it. I did give them my money and plenty of chance and time.
Studio one is great but just for the quick n' dirty and quick n' light department. Same with logic, cubase, FL studio are all light duty and for pre-production not pro production. As is the light version of pro tools.. But nothing touches Avid HDX technology on pro tools Ultimate. Thats for pro stuff buddy. Its like a tank.
I use ProTools every day at work…then I come home and welcome Cubase with open arms lol interesting to see how this goes. Maybe they’ll back out like Waves did a few months ago because of consumer backlash haha
Thanks for watching Will! Just as I was making the point in the video your world backs it up. In your Professional job Pro Tools is it and you have a different workflow at home with Cubase which is great! As for the sale. I doubt there will be any backing out of the deal, as it is likely to late for that, but I ultimately think this could be a good thing for Avid customers as the buyer STG owns a number of software companies and is a better fit for leadership.
If you haven't noticed, the pro studio market is dying. And there are plenty of other DAW platforms available. I remember when 24 track tape machines were the pro standard. LOL! Times change!
Thanks for watching and your comment! The Pro market has been shrinking for 2 decades and I agree there are so many other DAWS available. I learned engineering when there was still a 24 track or multiples in every studio. I loved it! However, I did see the writing on the wall and watched how some were unwilling to adapt to Pro Tools infiltrating the workflow. I embraced both and got hired often because I knew both analog and digital worlds including the RADAR system. If I was starting out I would learn Pro Tools as I said for the Pro studio world but would likely use Logic in my studio at home for creating music for all of the TV work I do. Times definitely change!
same here! I don't miss the 24 trks at all, aligning those MTR90's every morning before sessions. I then learned the DD2000 editor we had at post logic and then sound design/sound tools/pro tools and followed that flow and was so busy I couldn't breathe (small exaggeration). That lasted for over 30 years. Now it's slower thanks to streaming but the DAW of choice in our networking/workflow/handoffs/transitions/final mixes/multichannel configs etc. is pro tools and that's not changing any time soon. I love the fact that there are many choices out there, but PT is still King, though I'm not a fan of their management/customer service for years.
20 years long PT user, the very moment Avid switched to the subscription fugazi, the thousand of € spent for software /hardware came to my mind. I’m a very happy Studio One user today.
@_left_eye thanks for the comment! I agree that Protools historically is not cheap. Their foothold as industry standard is cemented for now due to exactly what you stated the investment. Professionals and their need to be compatible with incoming and outgoing projects is the reason it is still #1. Not because it is “the best”. I also agree the expense of the subscriptions is not affordable to most as well, especially given other options. Good music can be made in any software! Studio One has a great reputation!
Going from PT to Reaper was difficult at first. I missed all the plugins and shortcuts. Now I have the plugins I need and am getting decent with Reaper, not great. I have a long way to go. For me it's not about the daw. It comes down to the performance, assuming one understands how to get the sound they wish. So many people are gear focused and the performance is less than exciting. The best studios in the world will struggle to fix a bad performance. My current struggle, capturing great vocal tracks. The problem, my singing. I am working on the performance.
Right on! You have your priorities straight for sure. I am constantly working on areas of my performance still. It never ends and honestly that keeps it fun and challenging.
Thanks for watching and your comment! We will have to agree to disagree there as the majority of the music creators I know are still users of Pro Tools even outside of commercial studios. Now part of that could be that a lot of the people I know have been in the industry a long time. It is also likely because it has been so popular for so long until AVID started really jacking up the prices. But there are a ton of great options to produce great music. Plenty of others using other platforms. Pro Tools is not a requirement at all. Thanks again! I appreciate your comment.
I actually did some research of companies going from public to private and.. sure, some fail miserably. But I found that it can actually be a really good thing for companies as well. Help them restructure their staff, their vision, etc. I was debating on switching from PT for recording and mixing. Nah. I'm really good with it and personally like a lot of things about it. Only IF they go under will I look elsewhere bc I'll be forced to. All this said, I do hope they drop the subscription model. Or at least give users the option to subscribe or own. Should be their choice imo.
Thanks for watching and the comment! I agree that this could work out well for AVID. STG who bought AVID is not just another venture capital firm. They specialize in tech and software. Time will tell. I agree the subscription prices are steep. I have a perpetual license so I own my version but am locked out of updates unless I pay. Which sucks!! 😢
i completely understand and agree eith what you have said and its alot of the same stuff being said unfortuneately. if your working in the "pro world" pro tools is expected and i understand why. But avid sure isnt very good to thier customers..i sincerely hope this changes things but i have to admit im skeptical. when you mentioned art will find a way i wholely agree. i just wish avid would begin to see artist and not just numbers and profits. and i didnt mention it before but thank you for the content.
@johnsnyder4949 Thanks for the second comment as well. I appreciate the kind words in regards to the content on the video. Trying to find a niche. I agree as I basically said in the other reply that AVID has alot of work to do. Their customer service has been lacking even for us so called Pro's. That is why I let my previous subscription lapse for 5 years with my perpetual license until I bought the Mac M2 Ultra. I had to upgrade then. Thankfully it was smooth but I will likely let the perpetual license lapse again as $599 a year sucks!
I loved using Protools. I had my work pay for the perpetual HD license and their overpriced hardware. Now I’m no longer employed there I would never pay for any of their subscriptions or interfaces. I have a very bad feeling about Avid and I don’t think them being sold is a good thing. Yes, Protools is arguably the professional industry standard but that market is pretty small compared to say the bedroom producer and I don’t think Avid will be able to compete at all in that arena with their confusing licensing. Who really needs a Protools Carbon with these M series Macs? Anyway I am glad to be completely Avid free these days.
Thanks for watching! Their subscription model definitely stinks. I don't think any one will disagree much. I am not a fan of subscriptions in general but it is not uncommon. I agree the market is far beyond the Commercial Studio. Pro Tools subscriptions will hurt them there but you can use any interace with Pro Tools and have been able to for quite a while now so their hardware isn't really the issue with the power of computers now. Thanks for your thoughts! I appreciate it! 👍
yeah, this is what I've been saying too. I'm deep in the world of Pro Tools and though Avid did seriously suck as a company, it's uniquely difficult in our small audio world to look other directions for another DAW to work with professionally, and that is also used by the studio I'm doing my finishing work in/mixing multi channel at. I am not a composer or a musician when I'm working, I mix the sound for television and a good sampling (pun intended) of famous music artists. With the above said, it only makes sense to stick with Pro Tools, though I thoroughly understand that the smarter move is to move on to another company/software that actually likes their users - works FOR us and not against us, like Avid has done for years now. I have been a sound mixer/designer since 1989 and though I know that ages me a bit, I'm always up for new ideas that help me do my job better. But in this industry of pros (Hollywood for me in particular), Pro Tools is still the creme de la creme and ubiquitous throughout our niche of the audio and entertainment industries. Of course, I understand that could change sometime in the near future, which is just fine...and I'll keep my eyes and ears open more dutifully until then. Thanks for your video!
@deerock7 I agree with everything you said 100%. I started in Pro Tools as an engineer even though I was a musician long before I got into the production side. Tracking and mixing cemented me in Pro Tools and it just continued when I built a setup at home to compose and write for TV and produce artists. Hopefully the new owners are taking a read on the room and will change for the better because they want to gain back market share. That would be good for everyone as competition between companies benefits the users. Thanks for watching and your comment!
Avid HDX pro tools is for pro production, mixing, mastering. The rest of them are just light duty for preproduction. But great keeper work can be produced on them as well.
I do agree that protools is the standard for the most monied, highest end of the industry. I don’t think I’m in alignment with this definition of “professional studio” however; I don’t think the business model most closely associated with protools has exclusive rights to the term professional studio. I’d define a professional studio as a facility capable of monetizing its work, that can produce competitive, industry standard level product. At this stage in history I think a specific daw is the least important part of the chain and personnel is the most important. As an example just last month I received a paid performance opportunity with the Smithsonian, with the federal government based at least in part off a project done in a daw that isn’t even a paid daw anymore, but was when I produced the project ( cakewalk is now free through band lab). As a business model music has evolved into a loss leader that expands other opportunities via performance, merch, etc. basically a commercial. There are alot of ways to get to that end goal especially with live and recording equipment converging that might even create more income than the protools type model.
Thanks for watching and the comment! You bring up some excellent points! I could see your definition of what a "Professional Studio" is now and how it's changed from the past definition. I probably should have said Commercial Studio as that is what I think of when I hear Professional Studio. So in that case if we are talking a space where you create, record, edit, mix or master and you earn money or sell the music then I agree. Much has changed since I got into this as a career in the 90's. Most of it I think has been good. Thanks for your thoughts!
I learned on Avid PT back when it was DigiDesign. I watched the business model change over the decades. I don't see Avid Pro Tools maintaining it's market share with customer centered alternatives that can do the job just as well and cost less. It doesn't matter what you do in the creative space. you will consider cost when running your business in today's economy. It's not the same anymore. Everyone should be prepared to adjust. I'm curious if the big boys in the Film Broadcast and Audio space will keep the tools alive. I just don't see it happening.
Thanks for watching! I agree! It will be interesting to see how the new owner operates AVID. For now I still think it is so entrenched in Hollywood for video and in audio as well that it isn't going anywhere soon. Who knows what will happen.
Thanks for watching and the comment! I think if AVID added back in an easy path to BUY at least the Studio version of the software and made it more affordable they would actually do better. The Artist software option at 32 tracks is a joke. Even though one could make 32 tracks work why on earth would they with all of the other options. I wouldn't even though I know Pro Tools very well. I would move to Logic, Luna or maybe even Studio One.
@jannybravo8429 I think they feel like they are doing a service offering a cheap option but at 32 tracks it is like living in the 80's lol. They are simply trying to hook people in that don't know about other options which I think is not very cool.
Avid ProTools hasn't been studio standard for a while. I find Logic in more studios, or even Bitwig. But Protools is a dinosaur. I dont know where you work out of , but its all about preference these days. Thats why ProTools sales are down. There not studio standard anymore my guy.
Thanks for watching! We will have to agree to disagree. I agree there are many options but in Los Angeles and Nashville the major music studios are still Pro Tools especially for tracking as well as mixing. They might have Logic on hand as well as there artists and producers that work in Logic on their own. I appreciate your comment and sharing your thoughts and experiences. 👍
@@ChrisJustice But the music industry is more than Los Angeles and Nashville. The only reason Protocols still exist is for practically reasons. Not for professional use. They're just catching up to logic pro x. Number #2 Protocols are just not catching up to Atmos. I do this professionally. 17 yrs now. Apogee symphony and logic rig
@mafiamusicfamily I appreciate the conversation and agree the music industry is everywhere. I also agree Logic is catching up! Apogee and Logic is a solid rig. Nice! Apogee has always been at the front of great converters and digital. I am just saying all I see in tracking and mixing currently is Pro Tools. All of my friends and clients almost all work in Pro Tools as well. Some create in other DAW's but when it comes time to mix the export files usually end up in Pro Tools. All of the Atmos mixers I know work in Pro Tools BUT to your point they all have Logic as well to listen to the spatial audio render as well. For these reasons it is still the industry standard. That said, the next few years should be interesting. I sincerely wish you the best and continued success as any of us know how it is to make a living professionally doing this. It should be a community and I appreciate your well thought out conversation. Thanks again for watching and commenting. I truly appreciate it!
I am a Steinberg VIP Artist and have never considered Pro Tools as my industry standard. I use AAF to transfer from a Pro Tools session into Cubase/Nuendo without a hitch. Even film work that i have done sessions came from Logic etc same thing i just convert over and begin my fun...make great music and avoid the "industry standards". I do own Pro Tools, Logic X, Ableton, Garageband, Fruityloops... cheers
@gnick88. Thanks for watching and your comment! You touched on something I talk about in my latest video. Professionals use what they use and get great results! I think you would agree with everything I said in that video. Thanks again! Cheers!
Used protools for years. What its good for (mixing/mastering) it does extremely well. Currently using Studio One and it's so much more intuitive. If I want to actually enjoy the process of creating music AVID can't be involved
Thanks for watching and your comment! To your point I agree 100% in that one should use what makes them creative and or doesn't stand in their way! For me I know Pro Tools so well it is what I am most productive and most efficient in. That is different for everyone! 👍
I actually went from PT 12 to PT 22 in November of 2022. I went 10 years without an update. I first bought Pro Tools 8 M-Powered that I bought for $200 on ebay. I upgraded it for $299 or $199 when I went to PT 10 - 12. And then I waited for a sale to upgrade to 22 and it cost me $249. I've spent a total of between $650 to $750 in 13 years. And I love using pro tools. I'll stick with it.
That is how I did it as well when I bought my perpetual license years ago for Pro Tools HD. I went years until I needed to re-instate recently. Of course they brought back perpetual for Ultimate now which hopefully they will follow with the rest.
The only thing is it was a private equity firm that bought avid. Generally private equity firms have a history of buying up businesses, squeezing every penny they can out of them them leaving them for dead. Maybe STG, since they specialize in software and data they won't do that to Protools but you can bet your bottom dollar whatever they do will solely be for the firms profit not for the users.
Thanks for watching and your comment! I agree STG will be looking out for themselves first. It is possible to be profitable as a primary goal and still provide value to the customer and run a good company. Not as common I get it. Probably rare but there are companies like that. It will be interesting to see how this goes.
Thanks for watching! Probably. That's a good point. Way back in 2004 when Digidesign / AVID bought M-Audio and everything ended up just fine. Great point!
@@ChrisJustice Honestly. I think the use of Protools is dead as is. Along with recording studios in general. Now-a-days, if you're making music, or want to. Either you have a DAW and gear to record, can buy the DAW and Gear, Or have a friend with everything you need. There are full albums reaching top 10 made in DAWs as simple as FL studio.
@WillieTheAutomaton I agree with everything you said except that Protools is dead and that recording studios are dead. i think you are 100% correct that full albums reaching the top 10 have. been made on simple setups. That is not a trend. I too believe that will continue. However, it really depends on where in the country you are because what I have noticed is there are different scenarios depending on location. For instance Nashville is alot of Pro Tools and big studios stay busy in spite of the large number of home studios. When I worked in L.A. years ago in the early 2000's the DAW choice was more diverse even back then and the bigger studios were noticeably less busy at points. But most seem to survive. L.A. is still quite the same. I think film an tv have alot to do with that.
It's a toolbox. I use what works. 99% of my deliverable in Audio Post and to dub stages, ProTools is my preferred DAW. It's great for me. I started on MOTU Performer which became Digital Performer. I have Logic, LIVE, soon to have Reaper installed for an ATMOS client here. the cost of the subscription is worth the cost to my company. I had NO issues upgrading to my Mac Studio ULTRA M1 and now running Ventura with no issues. Even better than Monterey OS.
Thanks for watching and your thoughts! I remember MOTU and DP as well. I much prefer Pro Tools. That said I agree 100% they are all toolboxes and use what works and gets one the results they are looking for! Good to heear about your smooth upgrade. I am on Ventura with only a few minor things that are quirky but overall very smooth transition. Thanks again!
@@ChrisJustice I am basically on ProTools for everything. Looking at grabbing Reaper since some ATMOS clients I work with like to use it and it's super cheap and has some features I wish ProTools had, but hopefully they are coming. Just upgraded my MTRX to the MTRX II and loving that. Still waiting not he TB3 card like everyone else. LOL I was able sell my MTRX that was MINT to a post house in LA and they got it from me for about 6k with the SPQ, DANTE, MADI already installed. Of course the new on has all that on board so a no brainer and basically paid for the new one!
@@gregoryivesdolbyatmosmusic that’s awesome! I will be upgrading to a MTRX Studio II as well and likely putting in a modest ATMOS system in the next year.
Thanks for watching! We can agree to disagree as it is the DAW you will find abundantly here in the U.S. and is dominant in music as well as film and tv post production. I did not make it that way it is just reality. It was the first widely accepted and used DAW. It's adoption into the professional workflow made it the industry standard decades ago. Like I said though great music can be made on any DAW. I appreciate you watching and commenting. Thank You!
No shade. Avid is an evil company who have screwed users over since the late 90s. It's only getting worse for them. I know PT is the standard. But so were Tascam reel-to-reels and DAT machines at one point.
Thanks for watching and your comment! All true! lol My DAT machine has been sitting in a rack for 20 years. Only reason I have it is because I have so many DATS from sessions back then.
My sentiments exactly. I refuse to use PT as they nickel and dime ( more like hundreds and thousands) their customers. Also, it's not the first time they were sold and won't be the last.
The only reason I have Pro Tools is I record in a studio that uses Pro Tools and I bring the sessions back home to do vocals and other tracks. It it far easier than to do export and imports into Cubase. Less hassle. Maybe Avid selling it will be better. I had a subscription and just bought the perpetual license.
Thanks for watching and the comment! Good move. I just renewed my perpetual license I bought over 5 years ago that I had let lapse so I could upgrade my computer. I can relate. I WILL let this license lapse as $599 a year to maintain is robbery.😂
Avid a word and a meaning. The way I see it is that distances from other DAW's are shortening (probably they do not exist already) and as soon as the first 'pro studio' will change we'll assist to a massive breaking of the dam. And when a dam breaks it's the end.
Thanks for watching! I agree that many if not all DAW’s will do the job and the differences for the most part are narrowing. It will however, in my opinion, take a large shift that will not be quick to change what you see used in commercial studios. That is not to say Protools is superior just that there is alot invested by these facilities and an ease of work transfer from one to another that will be very very difficult to overcome. Again thank you very much watching and your thoughts.
The problem is the people like you who believe that Avid is the only "professional" audio system. I have worked with Merging Technologies systems for many years and with overwhelmingly superior results. In fact, in the professional area of symphonic music recording it is more common to find Merging systems. Pro Tools' strength was its DSP cards, but never its converters. The professionals I have worked with do not use Avid converters even when they have Pro Tools. Pro Tools is a standard because people like you have never bothered to try other systems, they would be very surprised.
Thanks for watching and your comment! The problem is not me per se but more what the industry has adopted and invested in. You bring up some great points that I didn't go into in the video as it would have got very long and techy. Also, I would love to know, what type of systems you have been merging? I agree 100% that AVID's converters aren't the best available. At first though their system was a closed eco system and you had to use their interfaces to have a solid system. That did change and when Apogee introduced the AD-8000 in 1998 that made a big impact. I worked on several records back then that were made that way. The Apogee were superior converters to anything AVID was making and if it went above 48k sampling rate it would still probably be very relevant today still. The 192 i/o's were better and alot of hit records were made that way so one could argue they were good enough but I completely understand your point. There are so many great converter options now. Back in the 90's it was very different. I also agree 100% that merging systems are popular. Many of us have had some sort of mixed system for years as it became easier to do. Also I as well as many I know tried other systems as they became available and it was just too much hassle to go between them. I think that is why Pro Tools kept such a foothold in the industry. Also, still to this day I think most of us can admit that we are not motivated to change much if it slows down or impedes our workflow. It certainly is not because Pro Tools is the best option. But I believe it is preferred because many know it so well and it is in every commercial studio. Again not because it is the best. Great music can and is made on many DAW's! Thanks again
That is rather harsh. The problem is everyone you send to or receive stuff from has PT, so to paraphrase The Contender and about apes beating each other, people are stuck with the "that's just how we have always done things around here" mentality. I doubt PT users never try other DAWs. They just go with the industry because they want to do business, but they did not stick their head in the sand.
Nuendo is not a prosumer product. It is larger in Europe than ProTools. I have used ProTools since 1993, and you are correct that it is entrenched in the Pro world. However, I have spent more than $300,000 over the years in Protools products that keep getting made obsolete. 4 version of ProTools "farm cards" since 1995, controllers that were 15,000 or more being obsolete, interfaces that cost 3-5K being obsolete, and when you have 5 studios in your facility it gets really expensive to keep retooling for the operating systems and bells and whistles, since the audio doesn't sound a lot different than it did through the original Digi interfaces from 1998. The particular private equity firm that purchased Avid is known for buying, then breaking up the components of the company and selling them off individually. Maybe we will get lucky and the original DIGI crew will buy ProTools back if they get split.
Thanks for watching and your comments! I completely understand the large investments in Pro Tools over the years and it definitely was frustrating for many. I agree Nuendo is not prosumer. Their marketing team really didn't succeed at gaining massive professional adoption in the U.S. It will be interesting to see how or if the AVID sale changes things in Pro Audio. Thanks again for chiming in as a user with a long history. 👍
@@ChrisJustice I agree with the failure in marketing. When Yamaha bought Steinberg I thought it would be the end of Cubase, but they have put the money in to expand their place in the market. Has it been seamless? NO. As I said, maybe this group will see the dominance of PT and move it forward. Or maybe a group like Native Instruments will end up with the PT side and create yet another software monopoly....
The best DAW is the one you know your way around and that is Pro Tools for many. For me it's Reaper, S1 and Cubase. I tried Pro Tools recently since I wanted to switch so that I can also feel the Pro Pride but I found the edit modes, toolbar and track modes a hellish nightmare to accomplish things that are simple in other DAWs.
I agree 100% that the best DAW for anyone is the one they know well that helps them be creative and productive. For most it is Pro Tools but others it is something else. The DAW doesn’t make a “Pro” only the work does! I am glad you have you path to being creative and productive as that is what is important! 👍
Thanks for watching and your comment. It would take a lot to knock Pro Tools out of the Commercial Pro world but never say never, I do agree for home based recording for fun or as a profession really any of them will do the job in the hands of a creative skilled person. 👍
Thanks for watching! I do remember when Digidesign sold to Avid. The re-release of perpetual licenses is a good sign to me that the new owners are paying attention.
I have to completely disagree with you on Nuendo and others being PROSUMER! Look pro studios once were the main studios to record and get the greatest quality once upon a time... However, not so today and for many years now! Many of the great engineers, producers and composers/songwriters work from their home studios and NO we all don't use PROTOOLS. Protools a LONG time ago was king of digital domain as far as recording went but this was MANY, MANY, YERAS AGO... TBH protools sequencer has always been WEAK compared to many other DAWs Then & Now! Protools became the industry standard no doubt just like the classic Yamaha NS-10's, SSL consoles, Studer tape machines... but that doesn't mean there the best nor dose it mean we all use these products because there have and will always be others.... And if we decide not to use the industry standard it definitely dose not make our DAW choices Prosumer. One last thing... those of US who actually write the HIT$ use what ever we please and works for us and once again it doesn't have to be as you say prosumer because its not protools.
Thanks for watching! I didn't say Nuendo specifically was prosumer or Pro Tools was the best btw. I agree 100% that great work and results can be created with any DAW. Pro Tools sequencer was definitely weak for many years and still isn't better in than anything out there. It was audio only at first for many years till the late 90's if my memory is correct. Many other DAW's were already light years ahead of AVID there I agree. Prosumer is defined as a customer who purchases equipment with quality or features suitable for professional use. That customer might not be a pro yet. That is not a bad thing at all in my mind. I understand how t sounds negative though. I was clearly trying to define the markets for different companies. AVID aims for the Pro market mainly which I don't see as a good thing, in fact to me that is where they fail miserably. I sincerely appreciate your comment and thoughts. Thanks again for watching!
I purchased a ProTools HD6 Accel system with 6 192 Interfaces and 32 channels or ProControl with a MacPro running Protools 10HD... Yeah, Say what you want, its OLD... I get it, but it sounds F-ing GREAT for $1000 - I have the basic plugins i need to run. The system is solid and plenty of processing power. I am able to track and record anyday, anytime... Once I am done, i'll export the session and send it to a mix engineer, who is able to open the session without issue... I try to stay with stock plugins to maintain compatibility...
Presonus makes great products as well. For years I used one of the Digimax LT 8 channel preamps. Sounded great! As I said in the end of the video use what works for you, create great music and have fun. In the end great music is great regardless of how it was made. Thanks for watching!
@daviesplaerz9055 Thanks for watching and your comment. I have heard that and Presonus has a great track record for sure. AVID is definitely in a critical phase for Pro Tools. There are a few DAW's that could over run them in the future in the commercial studio realm.
None is better. A hammer is not better than a craw bar, a car is not better than a train. These are just tools, assets, means to achieve something, get somewhere.
If you get a perpetual license will you still keep your DAW? Do we really have to upgrade every year?? I know they brought back the Perpetual wich is a good thing. Pro Tools all the way!! No other Daw is better!!
@Malte-Micha thanks for watching and your comment! I have a perpetual license and I don’t upgrade every year. Everything still works even though my update plan has expired. In fact, once everything is stable I don’t upgrade anything until there is a need to.
I was raised on protools & still using protocols 8 bc i refuse to upgrade to a subscription plan. Logic is ok but learning a new daw is not worth my time right now.
Thanks for posting this. This is the only video I've seen that breaks down the reality of Avid Being Sold and how it effects different people along with the pros and cons.I understand the Hate for Avid etc...But I will be on pro tools as long as its available. I've earned my living for the past 25 years. If I'm forced to move on, thats fine but I am staying. If I was a newbie today, I might choose something else.
Thanks for watching and the comment! I get the hate for AVID and they did it to themselves. Working Pro's don't really pay attention to it because as long as Pro Tools is around big studios won't make big changes. They will just add DAWS to the menu so to speak. If I was starting out I would learn them all and would likely choose something else as well that costs less and is not subscription based. Congrats on earning a living for 25 years. I am 25 years in as well. Almost 30 if you count back to my gigging days. I am with you I will move on when I need to. For now I still am staying in Pro Tools.
Waves definitely back fired on them. I feel like companies that try to transition to subscription from perpetual licenses your own don't go smoothly. Plug In Alliance seems to be the only one that did it the best. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for watching and your comment! I agree that with all of the advancement in tech that for some end users Pro Tools is totally irrelevant for sure. Big studios and production for tv and film it is still going strong. To your point it will be interesting to see how long that lasts.
No hate or shame at that; but I would point out that I'm very impressed with Studio One. I think if it did Surround Sound and Atmos, it would be a very modern and well-designed DAW. Sure, one can point out differences between plug-in quality for Studio One vs. PT, but then I rarely use stock DAW plugins, anyway; and some in S1 are quite nice. The workflow in S1, from the POV of more of a hobbyist, is actually better. Try specifying your own keyboard shortcuts in PT. I believe they still have a stick up their collective asses about that. If they want standardized shortcuts, have one un-redefinable keystroke that toggles stock and custom - some key chord that's not easily hit, or a menu choice.
Thanks for watching and your comment! I have heard a lot of good things about Studio One. Surround and Atmos are formats it will need to do if it has any hope of being considered by mixers for sure. As for plugins I agree I think most use some third party plugins like you and me. Pro Tools definitely has an arrogance as a company that needs to change. Thanks again! 👍
Agree most professional studios use Pro Tools because its just what they know and if aint broke dont fix it also alot of studios do not upgrade because avid had a history of messing stuff up look at how quick avid jumped Pro Tools 9 to 10 also Apple has a history of not caring about the Mac side of things so if you have issues you might be waiting months if not years for Apple to fix things
I think Avid's old model has been crap, so it can only be an upgrade with this take over. And hopefully they will blow up Avid and and everyone will switch to better daws. Protools is so cumbersome, but it does sound great.
Thanks for watching and your comment! Agreed Avid's business practices are not great at all for anyone. If they changed the way they do things they would attract a broader new user base which is important. They should not limit themselves to the current user base.
Thanks for watching and your comment! You are correct! There are many great DAW options for recording. Great music can be made on anything! Pro Tools is still heavily used in tv, film and commercial studios though. It will be interesting to see if the sale changes anything. Thanks again for watching I appreciate it!
I swapped to UAD Luna about 6 months back, and while its a great DAW that plays VSTs, records w/no latency (if you have a UAD interface) and uses many of the same hotkeys as Pro Tools.. i still eneded up buying my annual subscription for pro tools about 4 months after swapping and now im back with my ex (pro tools).. Maybe i fear change or maybe its because i learned everything i know on Pro Tools, but my mixeswith and recordings with Luna just didnt sound right no matter how long i tweaked it. Now that im back everything's is going smooth and sounds great. Pro Tools is home, but if she kick me out i know Luna will let me crash on the couch 😁
LOL I hope there is another couch in UAD's room. I have thought of trying Luna, as well as Studio One, but I know Pro Tools so well and have a ton of templates for creating production music and writing new songs with artists. Thanks for watching and your comment!
I'm far from a professional. I did study in sound engineering in 2007 we learned with Ableton, PT and Cubase. From independent punk bands to Metallica, you'll always hear " we just put it in pro tools". Not my choice of words lol but to just about every musician, regardless of if they know what's going on, know that PT is essential. I ended up settling with Studio One but I'm still not going to try and deny reality. Pro Tools is and has always been the Standard. .....Completely off topic, my sister works in the film industry (films documentaries) and knows nothing about DAW's but obviously works with either Premiere Pro and Davinci. She does know that PT looks like windows 95 😂 In a world where everyone is in front of screen's and likes to customize everything on those screens. You'd think they would of worked on the themes or customizations. Rant over...I enjoyed yours. ...Subscribed.
Thanks for watching, subscribing and your comment! I appreciate it! Any DAW can do the job like you said. I just wanted to make sure people wanting to get into it knew that Pro Tools still is relative and they should be aware they might need to know it. "PT looks like Windows 95". Definitely made me laugh. It hasn't changed much that's true! 😂
If there's one thing I absolutely disagree with is : Prescriptions. Especially in relation to DAW's. You've paid for your audio software already. Ok, Upgrades charge for it, technical advancement and improvements are important. And can be costly to the developers. This is acceptable if reasonably charged. But paying yearly charges (Prescriptions) for using a companies plugins, on top of what you've already payed for buying them. Greed and Rip off. People need to stop supporting this.
I agree for the most part! Thank you for watching and taking the time to share your view! I do think plug-in subscriptions can be helpful for people to be able to afford more plug-ins upfront, but the long-term costs add up. I like Plugin Alliance’s model that you get credit and can purchase what you like as you go. It does give you a path off of the subscription model at some point if you have everything you need then you own it.
There is a weird simpleton right here: To me the pricing strategy forms an important bridge between amateurs and professionals. I am an insecure amateur beginner who doesn't want to afford a DAW which is too expensive. I bought Studio One, REAPER, Cubase and Samplitude at a competitive price/discount, among other audio editors. And because I am insecure, I hate all kinds of subscription models. I guess I will "collect" Ableton Live and FL Studio as well some time in the future. And....... Why no perpetual license for Pro Tools Artist. You have hot cakes but you don't sell it. Why. Just why. Ah, and I need more tracks for Pro Tools Artist!
Thanks for watching and your comments! I 100% agree that Pro Tools Artists is too limiting and that really should be a perpetual license. Personally I think all of the Pro Tools options should have a perpetual license option. Welcome to the wonderful world of audio. You should watch my video "Don't Suck At Music". I think you would appreciate it. We all began somewhere and that is nothing to be insecure about. The DAW should not separate the amateurs and professionals. The work should! The journey of practice and improvement is it! @chuthemaster let me know what you want to see to help you learn. What interests you?
I will say this. Pro Tools has the market share for Commercial Studios. It's still the king with Audio. However, The share is getting narrower as the years go on, especially since commercial studios are shrinking for specific genres and I'm here for it. Because I completely hate the business model currently that is Pro Tools. I just won't pay $600 for a perpetual license (+ 1 year of updates.... I mean, does Avid do updates? I haven't seen any real updates at all in years. I'd love to see it be more proficient with CPU performance and do more with MIDI editing capabilities. Most Commercial Studios use Pro Tools but have other applications installed I'm sure. I switched to Studio One for pretty much everything I do and have not looked back because it does "everything" that Pro Tools does. the audio editing, and transport/recording (punch in, out, etc.) is still not as fast as Pro Tools but I'm willing to make that sacrifice because I refuse to do subscriptions for my DAW and based on this sale, I think is "Proof" (sort of) that many would feel the same. I say that to say, I respect Pro Tools. I say, Commercial Studio or not, you don't need Pro Tools to make Phenomenal, Awesome, Extraordinary Music. "Industry Standard" can be any daw depending on what music you make honestly. Just make great music and use what's best for you and your budget.
Thanks for watching and your comment! I agree 100% with everything you said about Avid's business model. I will not renew my perpetual license until I need something. The new version has tons of added features and the best midi it has ever had of course but I hear you that I am sure all of the other DAW's are capable. Your last sentence says it all I could not agree more!
@@ChrisJustice I wouldn't mind switching back I only left because of the business model regarding perpetual licensing and subscriptions. My loyalty lies with my pockets and not my Daw. I'll go open source if my pockets start bleeding.
I think PT used to be big when it was the whole hardware/software ecosystem, but nowadays computers are getting more powerful and other DAWs can run on any platform. No need for expensive rigs.
@AdamElteto agreed that computers have become so powerful that it really has changed the market and expensive rigs as you say are not needed in most situations anymore. It has changed my home setup quite a bit. However I still have a few UAD cards and am still using the HD Native card because I am maintaining a setup with the same i/o setup where I can recall sessions from years ago. I had to do this yesterday for more NFL music. I recalled sessions from 2015 and had to reprint some alternate stems. That is one example of why some stay on a platform even though there are comparable or maybe even "better" in some opinions platforms or setup options. The "expensive rigs" are still fairly common in the commercial recording studio and post house and that won't change as connectivity to several rooms and or a larger eco system is the need there. I appreciate your comments! Thank you!
Agreed!! Thanks for watching! Anyone that is just getting started should try a few and find what works for them depending on their goals and needs. When I started there was no other major DAW’s in use in commercial studios. Everyone was on Protools. Later on I used Logic quite a bit in an advertising studio as well as Digital Performer. I am still in Protools because I know it best and recieve alot of work in Protools already since it is still the standard. Definitely doesn’t mean it is the best.
Avid sold out of California a long time ago ! Once you buy then you get a monthly bill ? Most studio have protools but it's not the defacto standard anymore ! Poor mic pre's is Protools ! Old software Protools. You don't need the old software called Protools !
to me its just rebranding in a sense, wouldn't be surprised if they add features that all the other Daws have, but avid itself wouldn't look like they're copying
How many users we know who say 'i use Pro Tools because everybody uses it, it's the standard'. At this point it's a Pro Tools user or Fear of missing out. How can this mind produce good music?! Sorry, u asked for it!!! 🙂🙂🙂
Thanks for watching and commenting! I started using Pro Tools because it was the only DAW. That is how it became the standard due to no competition in the beginning. Pro Tools created the market we all enjoy that enables us to be able to choose our DAW now. I still use Pro Tools because I have for over 25 years and it is still the format almost all of my clients work in. No need for me to switch. Any DAW can produce great music! Use what is good for you and your workflow and create great music!
@@ChrisJustice most of us will not use Pro Tools because of our pockets, not because it is a bad DAW. I understand why a Senior Music Producer would use it, but for younger ones and following your line of thought, it would be just a status symbol, right?
I understand that. AVID has not done themselves any favors. I also don't think of it as a status symbol at all. It is just a tool to me. Billie Eilish and Finneas did her whole album on Logic in a bedroom. Logic just a tool but great artistry and execution. They chose the best tool for their needs or maybe it was just what they bought and learned in first. What a great result! They are not the only ones and lots of artists use different tools effectively. I completely understand that the subscription is expensive at the Ultimate level. I think for someone only creating music at home or their own studio any DAW can do the job. If they wanted to use Pro Tools the Studio version is the most they would need but I understand and agree for the same money they can buy and own Logic which is a great DAW as well as $100 more they can buy the fully loaded Studio One or $200-$300 more buy and own fully loaded Cubase etc. with no subscription. To me, It is all about preference, workflow and goal. My big point in the video was that I wanted to make sure people know that if they want to work in production for a commercial studio and really work and be flexible they really need to know Pro Tools. Obviously owning it and knowing it is the best way BUT I certainly understand the screwy subscription model. Also the fact that the 32 track Artist version is a complete joke even just to learn the software. AVID is not encouraging new younger users to come in and buy with that. I hear ya!
Thanks for watching! I do agree that big studios are far less relevant that in the past. A lot of music is produced outside of the commercial studios now. It is a great time to be an independent artist.
Way up here in the Great White North of Canada, Toronto specifically, we tend to use Cubase. At least in all of the studios that I've been in and yes, it's only a few. However, it's what I run as well as pretty much every other home recorder and musician that I know and I know a lot of them. I'm mainly a keyboard player so I'm in demand. At least I hope I am. as for Pro Tools, Yawn.
Thanks for watching and your comment! It is interesting that outside of the U.S. Avid and Pro Tools is not as common. I am seeing that in comments from overseas as well. That said I don't at all think that is a bad thing. Great music is made on all of them! Cheers and thanks again!
im a prosumer i guess. i like pro tools its cool. i wn pro tools cubase s1 and reaper and ive landed for the most part on s1. jimmy page isnt sending me his pro tools tracks lol. for now im keeping my pro tools sub active. i think s1 being newer has really upped alot of features pro tools users have been asking for. i dont own or work at a big studio so no one really cares what im using. the avid sale, in my eyes is big news. it will bew interesting to see how it plays out as time goes by.....willl the music/studio end of pro tools suffer to amximize profits ?? until this announcement i thought they were finally coming around and providing better value. so i was a bit let down when i heard this but hey im nobody.
@johnsnyder4949 Thanks for watching and your comment. First you are not a nobody. No one should be as we are all customers to these companies. Yes I guess the way it works from some companies they give more weight to Professionals but to me that is a dangerous mentality. Prosumer, Pro, Hobbyist, to me we all go through the same phases from start to finish and like anything the finish line is just in a different place. Some just decide to try to make a career out of it and some make music and have fun. ALL paths are valid! Companies of value should recognize this. Music should never be a competition other than friendly and encouraging. Studio One gets alot of rave reviews and that is good for not only them but also encouraging other companies that have slacked like AVID to get their act together.
I don't agree that Pro Tools is hands down the best. It would be like saying in order to have a pro set-up, your desk needs to be Argosy etc etc. I've taught multiple DAWs to clients (and sold them to clients) and while Pro Tools is probably has the best UI for engineers, it's not the most "advanced" (and I use the term loosely). Actually Pro Tools was pretty behind the times in the mid to late 2000s. For example, they didn't have offline bouncing, the MIDI features were basic, and their interfaces weren't super great. In their day however, they grabbed a good foothold in the pro industry, and it kind of stuck even though there were more advanced DAWs emerging. While the gap is closing because they've been doing a good job at advancing the technology of late, I'd argue that Cubase/ Nuendo is probably the best for power and advanced capabilities (macros, batch editing, custom key commands). In the end, it depends on what features you value in a DAW the most and perspective of the user.
I don't recall saying Pro Tools is the best. Hopefully I didn't say that because I don't feel that way. I completely agree that Pro Tools was behind in the 2000's and in some ways probably still is somewhere. That said I still never use offline bounce as I want to hear the bounce going down whether I am printing inside the session or bouncing to disk. I do however use the offline commit function on individual tracks everyday. Your last statement I completely agree with as well. Thank you for watching and your insight as well. 👍
This is ridiculous. Pro tools is not dead. People aren't going to just quit using it because the company was sold. It's too entrenched in the broadcast and film / video markets. It's the only DAW with an ecosystem of integrated hardware of that scale. Now, PT is not the market leader in the low end, midi composition, etc markets. There are better apps for that. But, that's not where their money comes from. Their money comes from the top and it always has.
Thanks for the comment! 👍 I agree 100% and that was the point of the video. It’s a professional platform and it’s not going anywhere! I agree and yes, the thumbnail was a little click bait and on purpose. Hopefully you watched the entire video as I’m sure you would agree with everything I said. I am a working pro and every studio I have worked in only uses Pro Tools! 🤘
Thats a fine statement, but why market towards the semi pro market and screw those users.. We did nothing to deserve the terrible treatment. Lots of money for bird feeding features the last two decades. It was greed, deception and total disrespect. Hollywood is the pro land... But the games avid play looses respect from many... No matter the status
I agree that choice of DAW should not be an argument 100%. My biggest point was a response video to the fact that even though AVID has had their horrible customer service moments and prices, anyone seeking a career in audio needs to know Pro Tools. It will remain the standard. Doesn't mean that it is the only way to create great music though that is for sure! Thanks for watching!
Actually a guy in his home studio should not go on pro tools for any compising purpose. There are some waaaaaaay better options out there. In another hand do studios need HD cards? How old is this technology? There is probably room to go back to the "use my hardware, get the software" politics. It it pretty clear that pro tools has been turned into a cash cow before selling it with its subscription model. Will they continue in that direction? well probably for a while with zero change. And then we'll see if they tear Avid appart and sell pro tools to a company in the sound business like the holding of PA, Native instruments and iZotope. That would have been a dream direction for us.
Thanks for watching! I agree the sale to a company the likes of who bought PA and Native Instruments would have been awesome! I also agree that there are many DAW options out there and Pro Tools model is broken. I hope they either drop the subscription model completely or get realistic with the pricing. Discontinue Pro Tools Artist, or price it at 29 bucks outright purchase or make it free. Use it to get new users and make the other options priced competitive. Also always give a perpetual option without the huge yearly fee attached. The only thing I think keeping them in is all of the investment and commonality between the commercial spaces and working pros at home. For me I could not switch to something else without it being a headache. Thanks again for watching and your comment!
Thanks for watching! I didn't ever see it as a war. Pro Tools was the first DAW to make it's way in to widespread use and adoption by the recording industry. Lots of companies have come along and made great DAW platforms that can easily do the job as well. But to call Pro Tools a dinosaur I would say the professional world would disagree. That does not mean it is better. It is just still the most widespread and is as standard as a recording console in commercial studios. It is all about workflow and the ability to go between many different locations with standardized capabilities.
WTF you paid 600 bucks for an upgrade?????? Honestly, this model doesn't work! how do you buy something and then you are told to buy it again so they upgrade it???? Rubbish!!! I love protools but this model will never work!!
@cydbass1 Thanks for watching! LOL yes I paid to upgrade my previous Perpetual license that I had let lapse 5 years. So really that is only $100 per year. I paid to reinstate my perpetual license and I am sure I will likely let it lapse again as I don't upgrade once everything is working until I need to for something I need. That is a very typical for Pro Tools systems and owners. Not saying it is right lol. It sucks but Pro Tools is still the world I live in. I think we all can agree the subscription model sucks. It is not unique to AVID unfortunately. Slate, Plugin Alliance, Waves, Izotope, etc. All subscription based. Thanks for the comment! I appreciate y'all watching and interacting.
Thanks for watching! Just a note at the time I made the video AVID had not brought back perpetual licenses yet. Also many were saying this was the end of Protools. So I had to make a logical response. 😂 I do agree AVID will be just fine! Thank you for commenting as well.
Great choices, but once you get used to the uninterrupted creative flow of a DAW with plugin sandboxing, it is hard to look back. It is different for everyone's use case, so if you use plugins that do not crash, that is a lucky setup. It is not always so perfect for everyone, so sandboxing wins for some of us.
Thanks for watching and the comment! I consider Logic and Nuendo both Pro level competitors as I said in the video. I did lump Reaper and Studio One into the Prosumer category but honestly even though I have never encountered them in a studio I am sure they could do a Pro level job. I know Presonus makes great products. I remember walking into Universal's recording studio in L.A. in 2002 and they were using Nuendo as their main DAW. That was a bold move at the time as Pro Tools was dominant. I remember feeling so akward running the session in Nuendo that I couldn't wait to get back to Pro Tools. If i worked there I would have made sure I knew it well. That was really the point of the video. You need to know the software you are going to encounter working in studios outside of your own. Thanks again!
"You are holding it wrong." On a serious note, like many other DAWs, it has no sandboxing. With that aspect, even the more affordable Reaper is more pro.
You are biased towards Pro Tools and speak in undertones how it’s superior than other DAW’s which you’re going to deny saying. I have the latest version of Pro Tools and from what I hear, other DAW’s are just as good. So saying the TDM’s or HDX’s are for professional recording and the ones that don’t require it are just home project studios., alluding they are not professional is just a boast to ones ego. Pro Tools is nothing and if they go private no one is going to miss them. Avid is wack just like Pro Tools.
@Dante-qf9yd Thanks for watching and your comment. Everyone is biased towards what they use and know. I am biased towards Pro Tools only in the way that it has been the software to allow me to do my job and make a living. I don't believe it is superior. Please tell me at what point in the video I made that statement. I did say it is the standard and you need to know it if you are going to work in commercial studios as an engineer. They all require you know it. At the end of my video I clearly make the case that it doesn't matter what you use to make great music. Any DAW can get you there. HDX or older TDM systems are pointless for a home based studio in my opinion because the tracking capabilities are not the same and computers have become so powerful it is not a needed expense. It has no limitation on the quality you can get at home. If you haven't please watch the whole video and you will hear me clearly state that great music can be made on any DAW. I agree AVID has some backwards sales tactics but they are not alone. Waves is a great example of another company that needs to wise up as well. Keep making music! Thanks!
@@ChrisJustice Thank you for your reply. Pro Tools was once looked down by major recording studios because they preferred using analog with the two inch tape. I bought Pro Tools because I could track and not have to take my keyboard to the studio anymore and save money. But I sooner learned that I could do the same thing at home. From what I hear, the studio I recorded at, they had purchased the SSL console from Hit Factory, a studio that major artists went to. That studio closed down. They charged $80 an hour in their studio A room. The tape machine always needed repair. I learned about the Nuemann microphone there and Apogee converters, which I now have. But eventually as time went on, like you said, people do have to know how to use Pro Tools in the majority of the big studios. I’m not biased about what I use, I’m truthful. I bought the Universal Audio Volt and I will say it sounds better than my old Apogee that costed 3 times as much, though it may not be good as my Symphony, it can sound just as good, even the Scarlet 2i2. And I did hear you say a lot of great things. Truth be told, any good mix engineer is going make professional sounding songs at home or the studio regardless. With today’s technology, there is a difference. A car system that doesn’t have good sound will be able to tell you how good a mix is. I haven’t made a song with my Apogee Symphony yet because I have a lot of songs to mix on my old Intel Mac computer. When Avid showed they didn’t care about their customers, that’s when I lost interest in Pro Tools. I bought my license so I don’t have to deal with a subscription. I can pay for the update yearly if they haven’t changed that part. I own it, but I haven’t used that DAW over 3 years. I have it just in case I have to record someone who prefer it. I am excited to get Logic in 2025.
@Dante-qf9yd Right on ! Thanks for the detailed reply. I learned on Analog tape and an SSL. I can relate. You are 100% right with how digital was frowned upon at first. I remember it well. By the way Universal Audio makes great stuff. You will get great sounds with the Volt! Technology is a gift for home recording!
@@ChrisJustice Thank you for your kind words and time. I’ll be watching your other videos. It’s good to hear that you know about the analog recording before digital became standard.
The Avid portfolio was more than just Audio related software and hardware. They also offer Film and Broadcast tools used in Hollywood and the likes to date. (Avid Media Composer, The entire Media Central suite, Maestro, Avid Venue etc...) These are still used in Film Production and TV stations today. I'm curious if this will cause a major shift long term for the Film and Broadcast industry to take a serious look at other tools that can do the job just as well. We in the audio world were suspecting something like this would happen eventually. #TeamSteinberg #Cubase #WaveLab #Nuendo #Dorico
It's so dramatic Sound Like the world is Ending!!! Protools is not in my Agenda and Never was!!!💢 The world will still turn around without protools!!! and that! is the End of the story!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks for watching. That was the point a little dramatic. Watch the other videos on this topic. Same. One important thing to remember is that Pro Tools was the first widely accepted DAW paving the way for all of the other great DAW's we now have access to. Without the acceptance of Pro Tools at the time it came along things might be different for independent artists creating everywhere. Sure Pro Tools could go away and recording, mixing, mastering etc will still happen but it isn't going anywhere anytime soon until big studios move away from it.
subscription is IMPOSSIBLE for a professional of any person (when avid goes bankrupt = aylok dies / online payment is interrupted = and the END is for YOU! your songs will never be opened = you are dead / living in anticipation of death is unthinkable /// I want to stay with protools / but apparently I will leave (subscription-impossible / aylock-dangerous)
Thanks for watching! There are many software companies that users all over are paying subscriptions for and not complaining. Slate, Izotope, PlugIn Alliance, East West Library, Splice, Output, Antares, and the list goes on. I agree they stink and I am not a fan but it is the world we live in and it is not going to change I believe. I wish it would. I own a perpetual Pro Tools license btw. Thanks for commenting!
The thing with other daws, is that you have to work with what they give you. sure you can customize it to work for you but it's still limited. Reaper is so customizable That It has a bit of a learning curve. If you grow with reaper then you'll be fine. but it can be overwhelming cuz of how customizable it is. Reaper sure it looks a bit outdated for the interface, but try running protools off a flashdrive, try doing that with logic, nuendo bitwig and other daws. it's just not done. Tell me what can I do with what they call industry standard daws that I can't do with reaper? There is nothing. If the feature isn't there it will come to reaper. no mistake about that. Reaper is the most powerful daw out there. Sure it lacks instruments. but it has a ton of mixing and mastering plugins. and If allot has protools or logic which is two of the top daws, most if not all of them buy third-party libraries such as native komplete or spitfire and 8dio stuff and others as well. so why would it bother me? but that's me. It is not what you have, but how you use it. Reaper and reaper and reaper all the way for me bro. and oh, it's cross platform. protools and logic is not. but I use logic on mac too. so it's normal. but Still love reaper.
Thanks for watching and your comment! I have heard Reaper is very customizable That could be good or bad depending on the user. I also agree most users of any DAW are buying some third party instruments and plugins so I really never look at those features as much. 👍
Reason why I got logic is cuz it has excelent tones that I want. and I can also use them in mainstage for live playouts. I wanted some brass and logic had some brass that I liked for a song. so now I have a mac with logic on it. but I don't like mixing and such in logic though. A friend of mine use to use his roland Juno-G and something called QWS (Quick windows sequencer to do all his music. and he does stuff like smooth jazz, pop and rnb. Again people has to learn to use what they have though. If you limit your self to just stock sounds, you might just get to be more creative. too much of sounds can overwelm you sometimes. and you're welcome. it was good video... Keep up the good work.
@bluefoxproductionstt Thank you! I 100% agree that people should learn to use what they have! Great music comes out of the person not any particular DAW or even system! I remember creating music on a 4 track, Linn Drum, MPC60 and other sequencers over the years. Thanks for the kind words. I appreciate it!
I am trying to use the program, but the program is not helpful in terms of compatibility with the computer and its specifications Why this complication with the rest of the world@@ChrisJustice
Sorry for your troubles. Computers in general can be frustrating. I have had many software issues with many companies especially with the switch to the new M2 Mac.
