The patient asked the doctor a series of simple questions, which the doctor tried to dismiss ...questions which were so relevant. Anybody who has ever been on the end of such dismissive behaviour knows that feeling of frustration the patient felt.
@Jeff Peate How would one ever truely know the difference between a psychotic breakdown and a true spiritual experience. Especially since we know psychotic breakdowns happen and but all spiritual beliefs are based on faith. Also your belief that you have special knowledge and use of over inflated language points towards the same mental health disorder that we're discussing which is a whole other can of worms. Id love to hear your theory on why if mental breakdowns are true spiritual revelation how come each case is completely unique?
Yes, but if you ask questions that will justify your behaviour based on the only answer possible you basically checkmate your opponent, they both know what the answer to the question is and why it cannot be answered
Yup, the old days. But it's good to remember that a short film like this would have probably been used for clinical training. So the numbers of people watching would be quite low, it would be distributed to schools, hospitals etc. It would not be broadcast on TV for example. And by now, well, there's a chance one of his relatives might catch a view on RU-vid. The places to show content like this have grown exponentially compared with the time this film was made.
At 2:00 he is right in part of it, to build a new non corrupt system we need to annihilate the old, sometimes you cannot build new without destroying most of the old but that requires sacrificing at least 50 percent of the population and hope that some smarter people can create a better world .
@@gamingforfun9000 The idea that we can "annihilate the world and start again like Noah's Ark" coming from a schizophrenic person is disturbing, and harkens back to millenarianism, an often biblical belief in a cleansing, or apocalypse. For people not affected by schizophrenia, the end of the world fantasy (where I survive of course) is convenient for the person having that fantasy. A fresh start that sacrifices everybody else except for me seems to make so much sense until you have to try and shit with the electricity off. I recommend "The Road" (2009) as an antidote to fantasies about post-apocalyptic fun.
@@geinikan1kan Mate the NWO is all about that but not for the right reasons. Their plan is to cut 50 percent of population to have more control of what's left. Latest test, Corona among destruction, hunger and bankruptcy of areas of the world. This plan moves just fast enough not to be noticed. I don't believe in biblical stuff as in fantasy, Bible is misunderstood, bible is a metaphor for life we live and if you read it between the lines it tells much of what's been happening in the world, basically we live in hell bible talks about. Its far from fantasy bro, so how do you build new, how do you build heaven that human race is supposed to have, when the rich and corrupt 500 run the show and none you are doing anything about it, you don't even educate people. There is more of us than them, so if this isn't an option what else is, cannot build new without destroying old on the big scale, that's just a fact, who survives is not relevant, me, you, the other guy it don't matter. What matters is that they learn from the last 100 plus years of bullshit. But mostly since government killed JFK. A handful of mega rich and corrupt governments has been fucking with us for so long and what do most of you do about it, nothing. It needs sacrifice though. Most people with families have no time for that, wives, kids mortgages, bills, who has time to make world better, just mindlessly over populate, that's selfish. Get over your fear and use your brain, its more powerful than one can imagine, but thinking about big things takes long time and can be depressing as most facts or truths can be at times. Like i don't know how old you are and well you could make that up but if you are 30 plus at least you should be able to figure this out, its mostly on facts, what you see and hear and common sense. All you people do is call out or this or that, considering how fast you replied you wouldn't have had much time to think about any of it. Face it, society will get fucked one way or the other, how long do you think the three mega powers will just bicker, they all have nuclear weapons, its a good opportunity now for example, America is is on its knees from Corona right now, any of the other two could strike if they wanted to. Or the planet will just fuck us off eventually. Nothing last forever, the strongest fact in this life. If you want to reply, reply but at least make sure you can come up with some decent conversations, lots to read trough here ;) I think deep about everything, simplistic conversations about important things i cannot take seriously and I love phycology, its a passion after music. Its sad that people don't develop and push their mind to extreme. Annihilate the world isn't an idea, its a fact in a shape of a nuclear weapon among other things, even technology, like we are already testing AI so advanced its scary, as humans we always had tendencies to build things we think we can control. Lastly i also said he was right in the part of it , you should have asked which part :)
My schizophrenic father often talked about dying. Every few years he would be "dying" from something he couldnt name. Hearing this young man breaks my heart and reminds me of my dad. He died June 2021 from liver failure.
Do drugs cause crazy or does crazy cause drugs. And no one’s body can tell if a drug is legal or illegal. Who got help and who got hurt ??? The kid got killed most likely. And before that he got a lot of bad pain. Most likely. I don’t know. I wasn’t there.
I’ve worked in mental health a long time, trust me, not only is he sick, he’s dangerous. He’s preoccupied with death, has attempted suicide, more than a couple of times…eventually he will. It would be nice to know how these people lives turned out. When he said he wasn’t going to take his meds, and was going to stop them. That is the number one problem with these sick people, they start feeling better, and feel “they don’t need their meds anymore.”
The people who are charmed by this man's ability to occasionally say something more profound than you'd hear from a precocious 13yr old, are the kind of people that wind up on crime documentaries... as the victim. People have watched to much Dexter and other psycho glorifying media.
His voice is extremely relaxing . I don’t really like the doctors attitude and dismissive gestures. That guy might’ve had a mental illness, but I don’t disagree with what he’s saying
The reason you don't disagree with him is because you can't disagree with him due to his manipulative techniques. It is common in narcicistic people and psychopaths. They're charming (as you say, a relaxing face), funny, take care of their looks, act intelligent, ask questions that can only be awnsered into their favour etc. etc. But a lot of what he sais has no substance, he is just saying 'stuff'. They trick you into thinking what they say is right. I'll tell you, someone might tell you this person is a serial killer and after you talked to them for an hour they've convinced you they're not and are in fact cool people.
How about that? The sick people are paranoid about people who are judged in a way they have never been judged. Have you ever heard of the word that describes the people who are phobic of people with schizophrenia because there are people with no sense. What is there to be scared of? People are ridiculous. The people who are messing up the world are the ones without trust and the ones who are fearful of those they never met or hardly know. Scared people miss out from wonderful friendships.
In first video the patient seems more passive. In the second video the patient seemed as if he wasn’t going to be allowed to leave the hospital. I don’t believe he was simply asking questions, but was being confrontational.The doctor’s cautious responses may have stemmed from a previous negative encounter with the patient.
@@fish2399 LMAO..... You haven't met some of the PhD's I work with. They can be very book smart, but have no common sense. Fortunately, some still think realistically. LOL
This guy sounds just like my brother sounded he's the closest paranoid schizophrenic I've seen so far to the way my brother was some are not violent but some are and this guy has actually said some of the things I've heard my brother say and my brother would get violent sometimes and that makes this type of paranoid schizophrenic very hard to deal with my brother stayed with my parents after he was grown and had to have the police called on him many times for being abusive to my parents he finally had to go to a mental halfway house where he died when he turned 60 years old, my brother had a terrible life on this Earth and I hate to have to say it but he's got to be better off now at least I hope so because no one should have to go through what he did and not go to a better place after this life.
@@jimmyjennings4089 I wrote a comment that has been canceled. However, fun fact: I read your story with much interest because I know very very well what you have gone through. Believe me or not, it was a luck that your brother was, at some point, testified.
Did the doctor really? He seems to me that he's just delusional that he's making fun of him when in fact the doctor was not even making any facial expression.
My grandmother suffered from depression, but in the 60's and 70's, it wasn't taken seriously, especially in a woman. when she passed, I was 5. She was anorexic, bulimic, OCD, and who knows what else. The meds her doctors had her on would have dropped a horse, she didn't even weigh 100 lbs. It breaks my heart for her, she was likely unhappy most of her life. I stayed with her while my mom scoured the house to my Nana's OCD standards. And she was kind and loving to me. My heart hurts for these folks. Today, my grandmother could have had a happy life, or at least a stable one.
@@andrewlevy4260 I agree. People who've never been depressed can't understand it. They get frustrated that you won't just snap yourself out of it, as if you're doing it on purpose for attention. From the age of 5, when my Nana passed ( buried on my 5th birthday) I would fall into a very dark, bleak depression. I would wake up Christmas morning and it was like some pitch black and twisted, rotting, fetid creature was sitting on my chest. I could feel it's weight pinning me down and smell it's rank odor. I would join my family, and I didn't want to spoil their Christmas so I tried to pretend everything was wonderful. Eventually I'd say I was going to lay down and I'd just lay in bed and sob for no reason. The depression would lift a week or two after my birthday in February and that was it until the following year. Many years later when I was on my own, I adopted a puppy. I've had dogs for the last 26 years, and while I still have depression and anxiety, it's manageable. And brief. One time I dreamed I stepped into a swimming pool and was sitting against the side where I couldn't be seen. It was perfect. It was cool and calm, utterly still, dim and blessedly quiet. I knew I wouldn't be able to breathe but want bothered about it. It just felt so perfect and peaceful, and safe. Then I heard my mom calling me. Over and over. I stayed still, determined to wait her out so she'd go away. But she just kept calling and calling and I knew, just knew she absolutely would never stop. I was so annoyed, I left this perfect tranquility and swam up to her, and woke up. I almost never remember my dreams, bit that's stayed with me at least 30 years, as vivid as the night I dreamt it. Anyway, take care and find people who will support and understand you. Be well, be happy when you can.
I doubt it hun. I'm 35 and suffered from depression and anxiety ass long as I can remember. My depression got worse in my teen years though. But still to this day nothing has helped me. I've taken at least 15 different types of meds. It's horrible. There is no cure for mental illness unfortunately. I'm also a recovering addict. I was addicted to Percocet to many years because when I took them I didn't feel depressed. I felt like a normal person. But obviously taking them without a prescription for them makes things worse because I've been arrested among other things. I wouldn't wish mental illness on anyone and I pray 1 day they figure out better ways to help all types of mental illness.
@@kelly82485 when I'm depressed it feels like being out of phase with everyone. Being so sad it hurts. Deciding how long you'll keep trying before it's ok to quit on everything. For me, when my last dog has to be euthanized, I've given myself permission to go. I've lived on, in 24/7 pain for a family that can't bring themselves to talk to me. I made a commitment to Daisy and keep it,. But after she passes, I get to choose how I went to go on from there.
people are taken in by his charm and his ease at communicating. hes seems thoughtful with his answers and intelligent. despite that he says some incredibly disturbing and dangerous things which are clearly red flags. its quite worrying seemingly a substantial number of people watching this video are incapable of recognising some of the major red flags hes displaying
Another major red flag is the psychiatrist dismissing and deflecting his honest questions when he's become more rational. All he asked for was some time to be alone to think, a couple of days. It's too bad that there wasn't such an option available to him, where he could still be safe, but feel freer and more himself. In fact, it would probably help in his recovery. And where he could have a therapist available to talk to and get at the root of what's disturbed him so much.
@@czlucar Schizophrenia is a thought disorder. He doesn't need time to sort out his thoughts because due to his disease, his thought process is disturbed and his thoughts are disturbing. Ruminating on these won't be helpful for him.
@@evelynwaugh4053 What he has is a psychotic disorder, which more often than not is triggered by trauma, social exclusion, or some highly stressful event. It's not a disease. Diseases have biomarkers and in fact, if it were a brain disease it would be diagnosed and treated by a neurologist, not a psychiatrist. It's not even listed in the DSM as a disease, because diseases have biomarkers. It's listed as a disorder. And yes, the right psychiatric drugs can treat some of the symptoms, especially in the short term and in a crisis. But not because it's treating any disease. That's a misconception. Another misconception is that it's incurable. That anyone diagnosed with schizophrenia is doomed to having an incurable thought disorder. But then why have so many even prominent people recovered, some on psychiatric drugs and some even without. Have you ever heard of Eleanor Longden? Thankfully she had a therapist who didn't dismiss her and treat her like a lost cause. He believed that she could recover in time. And she did. She's now a research psychologist and gave a TED Talk. So did Elyn Saks, who prefers to remain on medication, but is doing very well for herself. She's an associate dean and Orrin B. Evans Professor of Law, Psychology, Psychiatry, and the Behavioral Sciences at the University of Southern California Gould Law School, an expert in mental health law, and a MacArthur Foundation Fellowship winner.
If he were to answer his questions in a definitive way, he'd be accepting the patient's premises. The whole point is for the patient to realize that their premises are illogical. The patient is speaking entirely in absolutes: "The whole world should be annihilated"; "You'd feel [this way] if [this thing] happened to you"; "You know eventually I will kill myself." He can't imagine a world not in line with his current disordered thinking and the doctor has to make him realize that what he is thinking is not reality.
@@OrangeXenon54 Yeah i know but there are more generic schitzotypal symptoms that are always there, ; his behavior is more emotional than systemic, e.g, he has lots of anger and very coherent reasoning around the anger. Also im failing to find any amount of delusion or pychosis, but i could be wrong
My sis is schizophrenic, highly intelligent and very manipulating. She can’t help it. She wants to be “well” but hates taking the meds and following suggested therapy. It’s hard to watch and all you can do is love and support her.
The meds can cause side effects and physiological dependencies. There are people diagnosed with schizophrenia who weaned off the meds, some with professional support. And while they might have had a relapse or two because of their reliance on the meds, they eventually recovered. The drugs can be helpful in a crisis, but they're not always the best long-term. I can't link to the article on RU-vid, but here is an excerpt from a journal article 'Mistakes I Have Made in My Research Career' - Robin M. Murray Author Notes Schizophrenia Bulletin, Volume 43, Issue 2, 1 March 2017, Pages 253-256, : "We raise the possibility that antipsychotic medication may make some schizophrenic patients more vulnerable to future relapse than would be the case in the natural course of the illness.” Moncrieff carried out a meta-analysis of patient withdrawal studies, and was convinced that “antipsychotic discontinuation may also increase the risk of relapse over and above the risk because of the underlying disorder.” So, in treating schizophrenia with antipsychotics, do we sometimes compound what is essentially a disorder of presynaptic dopamine by causing secondary dopamine supersensitivity? There is no doubt that antipsychotics are necessary in acute active psychosis. But do have to continue to prescribe them in some patients because we have rendered the D2 receptor supersensitive to the excess dopamine released? I, and indeed most investigators, have neglected this vitally important question."
once a patient is admitted and they make suicidal and or homicidal threats they not only have to be very careful at the hospital but liability shifts to the doctors and hospital if they are let out and make good on the threats, so not only is it a potential danger but liability and legal issues come into play. They aren't going to release someone like that very easily.
by actually listening to him anyone will notice his intelligence is brilliant leaving the doc speechless by asking the right questions just anything he said
I'm scared for you, because this guy is more dangerous than Charles Manson. The fact that you don't recognize his clear psychosis makes you the perfect victim. Go watch Ted Bundy interviews. He seems so smart...until you know what your looking and listening to.
Doc: You think you need to be here? Him: "Noooo I'm not nuts.. *sighs* "what we need to do is annihilate the world" *sighs* "hell maybe I am nuts but when I get out im gon get me a hill, some whiskey, no food.. I'm not eatin nothin. N I'm just gon stay on that hill"
haha, that was funny, It would have also been funny if he would of said dr. why are you asking such dumb questions when I already told you it was unknown.
didnt give permission to be filmed and doctor laughing at him. Ah that takes me back - facepalm. But damn in the second interview especially he showed true depth of intelligence. I would like to know what happened to this young man. Hopefully he found a life balance that allowed him and society to co-exist harmoniously.
*Holy crap!!! I think this is Gary Hilton!!!!* This is the age he was when the army diagnosed him with schizophrenia ...holy crap!!! We need to find out!!
Whats horrible is the patient asked not to be filmed and his request was refused. I know now theres confidentiality and maybe then those laws werent in place but im willing to bet hes no longer alive and never knew this was going to be shared on a platform everyone in the world can watch.
He was right to ask the doctor to shut it off. He didn’t want his business being played out for us. His wishes should have been granted. I don’t care how long has passed he still should have been entitled to confidentiality.
A careless one. My schizophrenia prolly wouldve shoved the bottle on the table through his eye socket.. then asked him if he thinks its still funny. . If i had such a disease..
@@catherinerainville4232 you're the delusional one here. All the patient wanted was to get out from the meds which are not helping him and he was so much saner than the doctor that made the normie minded doctor stanced in his nonsense pride. What a doctor!
I dont believe the doctor laughed. This is a patient with schizophrenia, his brain might've shown him the doctor laughing but I doubt he did since theres no audio or visual cue of it.
At 2:00 he is right in part of it, to build a new non corrupt system we need to annihilate the old, sometimes you cannot build new without destroying most of the old or all of it but that requires sacrificing at least 50 percent of the population or more and hope that some smarter people can create a better world. Doesnt anyone see how low we have sunk as a species. He is right on this point. Its scary people who are not "crazy" are not smart enough to figure this out or are scared to think that deep. Society has become so much worse since this interview so how can he be wrong, we need to start again before its too late. Open your eyes and ears and use your brain on your own. Dont listen to government or some stupid ass morning shows and gossip reality tv, just think the big picture, especially you people who bring new born's onto this planet. just think please. What if he is normal and doctor is nuts. What if the way society is now is crazy, while only few of us who are 'crazy' ones are normal haha, trying to build a new better system without corruption, war economy, hunger, poverty, delete god because he obviously cant do his job. By god shouldn't every human being have basic rights for food, shelter and medicine, humanity makes me sick, not all people but most, mostly in westernized world of brainwashing. See watching stuff like this makes you smarter. Its important to remember even with some mental illnesses a person can still posses a high level of intelligence which can be limited to certain things or even only one particular thing. Your mental state based on tat comment scares me, the other guy doesnt scare me at.
It's like the patient has no rights, this doctor's going to use him in the film no matter what the patient wants. And I can imagine being in a hospital where you have no control that you don't want to make the doctor mad. I'm struck by how everyone used to wear suits no matter what situation they're in.
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I like this guy. Seems like a good soul underneath the madness.
Why are these guys treating patients like property bought off the market and treating them like prisoners. Wtf is this??! This is like my worst fears showing up as reality.
If he were diagnosed today it probably wouldn't be schizophrenia. He comes off nonsensical in the beginning of the conversation but we don't know if he's been shot up with antipsychotics. Most likely it was to settle him down. I'm pretty sure he didn't go willingly. I bet if we had more info we'd find him in the cluster B family the way he talks about his violent tendencies, his oppositional defiance and his inability to control his anger when triggered. Also, his self loathing (only when he was drug induced). When I watch these videos, I'm always left wondering what happened to the person.
Wasn’t even two seconds into this and could clearly see how unethical it was by filming a client who did not want to be filmed! I have nine years university in this field and this is so obnoxious. Breaks my heart knowing so many people were unjustifiably institutionalized and the doctors got great pleasure in experimenting on them from interviews too much more invasive procedures it’s also disgusting
everybody is mentally ill to an extend . So true... psychiatrics want to make u work in a certain way like a machine... but they often cant agree that People are different..
He's totally right we all are mentally ill to a certain degree..just some alot more than others. I think the doctor was wrong for not answering him, probably was so shocked by his question
I feel like this guy and a girl I watched on youtube last night. A mixture of the two but still have empathy or self control or whatever it is not to trip completely. What a Trip
So true. Schizophrenia runs heavily in my family and all those who were/are affected by it were/are much above average intelligence. I’d like to know what, if any, the link is.
While average intelligence is associated w/ schizophrenics, many can be high functioning if they keep with their medication and therapy. Mathematician John Forbes Nash was very successful and was a professor for many years, he was profoundly schizophrenic. As is Astronomer and Scholarship Awardee Cecile McDough.
Looks like a regular guy like any other, has the ability to converse rationally and yet expresses violent tendencies at various times. You really never know who you encounter in public or private meeting them for the first time or shortly after eh. You can meet someone like that, think they're quite normal and switch in another second and pop you neck.
Dag man. Im sorry to hear that. I have more than one person like that close to me. It's so frustrating because you can talk to them and both of you agree they have a problem but most of the time they refuse help anyway. I haven't talked to either person in about six months. I still love them but I just can't take seeing it all the time and not being able to do anything about it. I have mental issue's myself and seeing them or speaking to them will trap me in my head for day's. It's just to upsetting to deal with day in and day out. This has been going on for around fifteen year's now so please don't think I am some cruel person who is unwilling to help. I have helped time and time again and it's ended up devastating me each time. There comes a point when you have to protect yourself from it or it will rob you of having any joy in life. I wish you the best man. If I knew of any advice I could give I would but sadly I don't.
Yes more manic that schizophrenic for sure!! Sorry for your cousin he probably doesn't and won't believe that he needs help til it's more than he can handle.
Annihilate the world and start over like Noah's Ark. I think a lot of people who are NOT considered mentally ill would agree with the fact that hitting the reset button would probably save the planet. He's very intelligent - I wish the doctor was more frank with his answers to his patient's questions. Times sure have changed.
Though I do think you can have compassion for someone and admire aspects of them and still know you need to be wary and keep yourself safe. Self-protection doesn’t need to equal contempt. His narcissism, etc. is a symptom. That doctor contradicting him when he says he doesn’t want to hurt anyone...seriously?
2:25 He trys to explain his position but realizes any effort would be in vain as the “doctor” is laughing at him anyway. He realized that the whole purpose of the filming was to make a mockery of him. So he gives up on explaining and says “im nuts”.
I can’t believe commenters are of the opinion this man is intelligent, even rational-and further-agree with his views. Incredulous. I came here because I lost my wife to madness, attempting to comprehend; instead I left in disgust. A lack of proper education is both the shame of our government and the student alike, may the light of the allegory of Plato’s cave illuminate some of you.
Indeed. Anything that doesn't square with "old-fashioned common sense" (read: any knowledge acquired through elective education) is nothing more than a scam.
The doctor was right not to respond to his verbal commands and put him in check. Otherwise you lose the integrity and authority of the doctor-patient relationship.
“Who’s they?” Or just no reply at all while patient asks questions over and over (like if they feel that everyone is mentally imbalanced to an extent) I luvv the snide responses from the doctors.
I was wondering if they were in my home state in Mississippi and when they mentioned Whitfield that pretty much confirmed it 😂 you don't wanna go to Whitfield 😐