She took religion too seriously though. There should be balance. Felt bad for her, living her whole life believing that she is forever in damnation until her death, with no hope for forgiveness.
Yes when you are mentally just not there your brain isn't sending those receptors telling the body what to do and when it needs to do it. That's why there are also physical symptoms with mental illness. And lengthy time between blinks or the opposite with rapid blinks is very common amongst most mental illnesses.
I was hospitalized because of a relapse on my mayor depressive disorder, but this time it came with psychotic features. I've had some minor psychotic symptoms before like depersonalization and derealization, I'm used to some level of paranoia, but the level of paranoid thoughts I had was tormenting, debilitating, obsessive and intrusive. I barely function at home and going outside was terrible, anxiety attacks and paranoid thoughts about what will happen after I came outside. I was barely sleeping at night and oversleeping during the day. My hygiene was affected and I felt like a plastic bag tossed around my house. After adjusting my treatment, I'm doing well. Don't underestimate any depressive symptoms, depression is not a joke or part of attention seeking behavior. We need help and some episodes can last years to recover. Take care ❤
Can you imagine the amount of crushing hopelessness that comes from truly believing that even after your physical body ceases to exist, you still continue being punished for your own personal inadequacy? 😬
@@jollydove6314 Why are you fear mongering people here into believing in some sort of god to repent from some mistakes they made in order to avoid some kind of "eternal damnation" your indoctrinating religion pushes? There is literally no evidence that there is a "hell" or whatever you want us to believe. I am sorry, but i don't believe in any religion, and i'd rather just trust science instead of trying to say everything was made by god etc. But if you are religious i totally understand your point of view, but there is no need to start pushing your religion to others.
@@Philologetics That is an interesting take, but that would mean that the certain religion would have to be proved to be the truth in order for it to be morally imperative to tell others about it. For now we have no proof about for example about Allah being a real god or Jesus Christ rising from his grave.
as someone who suffers from psychotic depression, this video is very accurate. although, treatment is a lot more effective now than it was, so I’m at least able to mostly function.
... yes ... one is overwhelmed with shame ... and the other is similar with shame ... one uses more religious terms and the other is more fluid in conversation ... but i can relate to both in some ways myself to a much lesser degree ... motivation and finding meaning can be tricky for the best of us ... i have depression due to trauma ... but i can say that depression is very poorly understood even now by doctors or psychiatrists ... its a mismatch between what is and what should be ... but these conditions are also cultural, biological and philosophical problems ... medication is not effective for eveyone either ... negative emotion is linked to neuroticism ... so it is as much personality as it is life environment ... depressed people like myself are not necessarily mentally ill ... many people have terrible relationships which don't help ... lack of encouragement ... guilt and shame can be a sign of relationship abuse.
@@sauceyeti4381 psychotic depression is a little bit different. depressed people can function, but when you combine depression and psychosis, it’s a lot more of a serious issue.
The stupid doctor is an idiot. How the hell did he become a psychiatrist? Those women need his help and he asks dumb questions and just lets them go when they need to talk more.
The first patient breaks my heart. Such soul crushing hopelessness. I wonder what became of her. I wonder if they could provide any treatment that would make a difference. I'm sure now she's passed on and I hope she rests in peace.
Just really relate to the second lady I can rarely bring myself to leave the house, and sometimes I don’t even have the will to keep my eyes open even when I’m wide awake:(
Both of these ladies described me.. I have to force myself to do everything. Days I can’t get out of bed and don’t want to.. Feeling I’m lazy and good for nothing..Trying to hold conversations with people with the heart racing and trying to find words to say when I really don’t have any…
This is me also. I think about cleaning or packing( because I have to move soon.) and I get so overwhelmed with dread that I can't do anything. So I tell myself i don't care. A bomb can hit me right now and I really don't care.
I think she is very wise still: "...death does set me free, because the spirit never die". But she is overwhelm with guilty for something, or was shamed with gluttony and laziness.
... yes ... one is overwhelmed with shame ... and the other is similar with shame ... one uses more religious terms and the other is more fluid in conversation ... but i can relate to both in some ways myself to a much lesser degree ... motivation and finding meaning can be tricky for the best of us ... i have depression due to trauma ... but i can say that depression is very poorly understood even now by doctors or psychiatrists ... its a mismatch between what is and what should be ... but these conditions are also cultural, biological and philosophical problems ... medication is not effective for eveyone either ... negative emotion is linked to neuroticism ... so it is as much personality as it is life environment ... depressed people like myself are not necessarily mentally ill ... many people have terrible relationships which don't help ... lack of encouragement ... guilt and shame can be a sign of relationship abuse.
@@dn1697 I was in a relationship that pushed me over the edge. im now trying to get myself off of Ativan(Lorazepam) and am having a terrible time doing so. its the only thing that calms me down. Effexor has not stopped the panic attacks. once i have a really intense panic attack it triggers that other world again. usually i come out of it but this time i didnt. its been 7 years now since i brokedown. and im still there
@@buschovski1 ... I feel your pain ... I never took benzodiazepine ... Lorazepam is a benzodiazepine ... I used SSRI Citalopram twice and never has the same reaction twice ... went onto Prozac very briefly and decided myself to eliminate medication from my life ... I wouldn't advise abruptly stopping like I did ... my only solution to eliminating my panic attacks was to move to a different location ... different environment ... the problem with panic attacks is you can associate the locations you have panic attacks with panic so you loop back into fear again .. I was advised not to call for medical help if you have panic attacks, as that becomes a problem seeking higher authority ... I still have anxiety from relocating these last four years ... but I have had very few panic situations ... it's a horrible experience ... my approach now is to go running or play football ... it helps, but even that isn't easy to eliminate anxiety ... my other problem is with nicotine and caffeine which should be avoided ... don't drink alcohol whatever you do.
@@buschovski1 ... I tried citalopram and prozac during my panic times... it amplified my problems. It's too complex a subject to rely on medication in my experience. Coming off medication can be a different problem. It's really an overlapping biological, cultural, existential and environmental problem. Personally mine is largely a bereavement problem. But I also have social anxiety difficulties. It's a feeling of inadequacy at times, but this at the same time doesn't mean total lack of confidence. It's a puzzling nightmare. Alcohol or nicotine won't help you either. Even exercise is a flawed idea subject to how acute your stress anxiety is. I've tried studying the nervous system a bit and even emergency doctors tell me the brain is a profoundly elusive area. Described as being hell to comprehend.
What surprises me the most is the high level French language that the patients on this channel use (I am fluent in French). . I mean they use a quality vocabulary, a perfect, and rather sophisticated syntax.
as someone with several mental illnesses i can confirm it’s really truly scary to be in her mindset. you want to rip open your chest to release this demon inside of you, you go through such awful thoughts that make total sense to you but when you’re out of that state sound ridiculous and terrifying. this is why i hate it when these things are romanticised or made to seem not as bad and “cute” or “quirky”. it really upsets me :(
The second case of melancholia symptoms are like, my daily routine for +3 years. I finally feel it's legit to ask for an admission in an institute. I still think I'm just a lazy, useless and monstrous mass of flesh. I'm constantly withering.
Oh my dear, you are NOT useless! I know we don't know each other but I am sure you are a wonderful expression of love and the universe and everything in-between. Please reach out to someone for help. We do not have to feel this way. There is help for us all. We just have to ask for it. And keep asking until we get the right help. Please take care of yourself and repeat over and over that you are LOVED AND YOU MATTER!
Hannah ,I dont think I am useless or anything but I know I will suffer in eternety (having all my bones broken at once in eternety and I will feel hungry and cold in eternety ,Because of the things I have done in my past incarnation.The demons/gods told me I was Hitler )you think My brlives are right?I had melankolic deppression and I suffer from shizophrenia .
@@dagrun3821 That's nonsense, deep down you know it. When you die, you die, you are no more. Just like the animals in the forest, they just die away. Or your pet. Have you experienced the irreversible happening when you pet dies, and is no more? It's ok not to understand death. Also, it's ok not to accept how final and irreversible death is, when you are young and full of lust for life. But little by little, as you get older, you'll find that life and death belong naturally together.
Does anyone realise how much these people are intelligent and deep down their in minds they are fucked up by chaotic life changes trauma of their life and society
@@sauceyeti4381 you're so childish and it ain't cute, why did you feel the need to comment on this video with your wackass jokes?? legit they're so unfunny like tf a Minecraft girlfriend.. 😐
It seems to me the root of most depression is that the society set up for us to take a place in is generally not designed for a truly happy existence. Who wants to get up and do the same thing everyday, wipe your windows and do the dishes, ugh, no. Humans require more than mundane everyday tasks.
One videogame has keeping me away from melancholic and depressed state for last 8 years by giving me adrenaline rushes and keeps me from stupid thoughts. When I had to go to a trip for a three months without playing that game the days were sad and long, and I was having a dark time. What I honestly think is that those people need that time of the day where they fully enjoy = adrenaline rush.
dude, too much adrenaline is bad for you. you want to develop an anxiety disorder? the same with dopamine - too much and you got psychosis on your hands
these comments are so disrespectful. of course this video is unsettling, it's obvious they are going through a lot. and projecting narratives onto them doesn't help, definitively saying they have x y or x because of a b or c if such wasn't confirmed.
Agreed! These testimonies are very interesting because they show the range of emotions that people with psychotic depression go through: hopelessness, despair, loniless, total lack of motivation, etc. It might help someone with similar symptoms and convince them to get help.
Heartbreaking. A perfect example of how religion (presumably Christianity in this case), and the obviously invented/manipulative doctrine that you will be punished for so-called 'sins' after you die, can really screw people up! 😠
Zachariah 8, at least for me, humanizes (for a lack of better terms) God in a way that I relate with. I heard a saying that though the painter isn`t often visible in the painting, it`s in the strokes and subtleties in which the creator is displayed; I think the same for God, there are so many beautiful and tender interactions of care and kindness (interactions intricately woven) that can light up one`s day (an act of giving, a kind word, a mother and her child, caring for the ill and infirm, the bond of a patriarch and his son). These are the aspects of The Most High (yes, the all-encompassing one of Israel). When Eve ate of the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil, she unknowingly (at least to the degree of her transgression) introduced an alternate holder into the mesh of mankind (the evil one); a dual ownership perhaps (that`s just speculation of course). God and the devil feud in a race against one another (bloodlines, spiritual sowings, Ect. Ect.); God prevails by granting us the Messiah, Yahushua (our Official and Honorable Proprietor), who in turn refines us over time to adapt our core selves to his tonality; thereby canceling out the effects of the knowledge of good and evil. Now we are here finding our way together. Remember that the strength of sin is the law (much of this is mentioned in Paul`s dilemma in Romans 7), and that love is the greatest of all amends (chapter 13 of 1st Corinthians). God bless you!
I watch this clip, feeling exacly like the second woman. Watching clip instead of doing my job. My dream job. The job I always wanted to do, the job I was made for... and the whole day I cannot click the icon on the pulpit to start the program and to start to do the job which is great, challenging but rewarding, well paid... I fell the kind of mix of lazyness and fear inside of me. I feel fuckin broken inside.
My God poor unforrunate souls, the torment the old woman feels, and the depression. Gosh I know how depression feels, it’s so dreadful and meaningless, it’s like someone had sucked happiness out of your brain and soul.
This is what is called CPTSD. This lady was more than likely traumatized as a child fearing that she would be damned for eternity after hearing about it. I'm sure many can relate.
This is psychotic depression, it is manifesting as overwhelming guilt. If she wasn’t religious she would feel guilty about something else. The details aren’t important or even significant. What is important is that she’s depressed (doesn’t do anything, no energy, no enjoyment) and that she is not in touch with reality (psychotic). She needs (needed) medication and/or convulsive (shock) therapy. There’s no point in talk therapy until she’s no longer psychotic.
Survivor guilt? Anyway , your question is definitely not stupid. Whatever you call it, the pain is real. But as I said earlier, the subject she feels guilty about is irrelevant. She’s got severe depression to the point of psychosis. The depression is the thing to focus on, not the things she’s saying she feels guilty about.
Carl Jung said neurosis is the illness of the culture manifesting in an individual. From his POV she is personally suffering from the inequities of society as a whole. She’s not wrong about the problems but she’s taking on an impossible burden. I realize this is not completely consistent with what I said above.
This was surely in the 1950s, shortly after WWII, which she must have experienced as an adult or teen. Imagine what she experienced in real life in France. Then this depression on top of all her other hardships.
I'm almost positive this runs in my family. It looks a whole lot different though because we are not religious. I used to believe, for about a year, that I was a subject in an process where most of the important elements of my life were controlled by a 3rd party in an attempt to control me (among others) which "made me" feel a strong sense of purposelessness. I have to remind myself every day that things matter and walk myself through my day logically. My mom, pretty much weekly, goes for multiple days acting like the whole world is crashing around her and it's all her fault even when there's just a few common problems to deal with for a few hours. Whatever it is we have, it causes our brains to not reward us unless we use chemicals. Thankfully we haven't gone too far in that direction but we still self-medicate. One thing my mom and I both do, and probably her mom did too, is when we feel depressed we create scenarios to justify it. Because the depression is not clearly attached to something external, we feel like we have no way to express it, and because it is so extreme it starts to spill out into the rest of our lives, which causes issues and becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. We create the situations that we then point to as the cause of the way we feel. Realizing this recently has led to me feeling a lot more compassion for my mom.
Remember...these where times when modern medication wasnt around, traumas were not healed pr talked about. Not treated the right way. So sad for this people. I even doubt if they would agree to be shown like this now they are gone trough time.
Second Lady me after being married raise children that doesn’t like me taking care of numerous family mother and patient’s ! I feel so hopeless and I think I will never be happy again ! It’s so out of reach
this person is more in touch with reality than half of the world population right now. is aware of her own sinful nature, the wrath of God and the punishment for sin. but she is lacking the faith in God's goodness, mercy and willingness to forgive and to help us overcome our sinful nature. It's also admirable how she opebly admits her flaws to the doctor and is not looking for excuses like the majority of mental patient nowadays.
Fanático ridículo. No vengas acá a mirar la paja en otros ojos y no miras la viga de los tuyos. Tú primero corrigete, y después enseña con el ejemplo. Esa es la forma. No criticar y criticar. Vaya forma la tuya. Jesucristo nunca condenó a nadie. Pero sí dió ejemplo con su vida. Esa es la tarea.
What 'excuses'? You mean like being traumatised? Look into her eyes - that's not just being depressed, more like reliving some thing horrific that she cannot bear to face. Hence depressing or pushing it down, dissociating from it. Yet it will NEVER leave her because it is a part of her. The answer is not pills, or blaming yourself, or being diagnosed as 'mentally ill'. They are not helping her at all
You can assess it, this condition, anyway you logically can. But the spiritual internal war is quite real to her. She will not forgive herself, and does not believe she will be granted eternal peace for her human mistakes or flaws.
Aaaand the reason is... guilt ridden religion, cardinal sins, shame and finger-pointing. The first woman - the fact that she was "lazy" and "ate too much" were probably the early symptoms of depression already...
You think those things in and of themselves cause such feelings. I sense you are wrong, that if such things in our culture were not present those feelings would remain and be rationalized by some other narrative.
I wonder if someone taught her at a very young age about food and laziness so it stayed with her. It’s almost as if she was a nun , feeling imperfect in the eyes of almighty or eternity in this case.
I was raised evangelical Christian and even though i am no longer a believer in christianity I often have a difficult time with believing God or the devil is making unfortunate things happen to me. I also think this is more common than people realize and i think there's a large number of the population who unknowingly suffers from this as well.
@@samanthathompson9812 Zachariah 8, at least for me, humanizes (for a lack of better terms) God in a way that I relate with. I heard a saying that though the painter isn`t often visible in the painting, it`s in the strokes and subtleties in which the creator is displayed; I think the same for God, there are so many beautiful and tender interactions of care and kindness (interactions intricately woven) that can light up one`s day (an act of giving, a kind word, a mother and her child, caring for the ill and infirm, the bond of a patriarch and his son). These are the aspects of The Most High (yes, the all-encompassing one of Israel). When Eve ate of the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil, she unknowingly (at least to the degree of her transgression) introduced an alternate holder into the mesh of mankind (the evil one); a dual ownership perhaps (that`s just speculation of course). God and the devil feud in a race against one another (bloodlines, spiritual sowings, Ect. Ect.); God prevails by granting us the Messiah, Yahushua (our Official and Honorable Proprietor), who in turn refines us over time to adapt our core selves to his tonality; thereby canceling out the effects of the knowledge of good and evil. Now we are here finding our way together. Remember that the strength of sin is the law (much of this is mentioned in Paul`s dilemma in Romans 7), and that love is the greatest of all amends (chapter 13 of 1st Corinthians). God bless you!
Zachariah 8, at least for me, humanizes (for a lack of better terms) God in a way that I relate with. I heard a saying that though the painter isn`t often visible in the painting, it`s in the strokes and subtleties in which the creator is displayed; I think the same for God, there are so many beautiful and tender interactions of care and kindness (interactions intricately woven) that can light up one`s day (an act of giving, a kind word, a mother and her child, caring for the ill and infirm, the bond of a patriarch and his son). These are the aspects of The Most High (yes, the all-encompassing one of Israel). When Eve ate of the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil, she unknowingly (at least to the degree of her transgression) introduced an alternate holder into the mesh of mankind (the evil one); a dual ownership perhaps (that`s just speculation of course). God and the devil feud in a race against one another (bloodlines, spiritual sowings, Ect. Ect.); God prevails by granting us the Messiah, Yahushua (our Official and Honorable Proprietor), who in turn refines us over time to adapt our core selves to his tonality; thereby canceling out the effects of the knowledge of good and evil. Now we are here finding our way together. Remember that the strength of sin is the law (much of this is mentioned in Paul`s dilemma in Romans 7), and that love is the greatest of all amends (chapter 13 of 1st Corinthians). God bless you!
So many modern ways to treat these afflictions, it’s too bad she existed before that generation of medicine. A pill or two might lesson this type of extreme depression and self-loathing. It’s torture! I still say it’s traumatic to be raised in a way thinking God is listening to our every thought, judging us, we are the problem, extreme guilt.
The pain resulting from a great awareness of the world can be "eco-anxiety", but it can also be "vystopia", a severe anxiety linked to the awareness of the animal holocaust. Imagine... it's like being in 1943 and becoming aware of the camps, in all their detail and horror, with the victims multiplying every day and crying out for help, and finding that you're the only person it moves and worries, and you're powerless to act, and your loved ones don't care about your feelings. It's all this together that creates a feeling of living in hell.
Yes, it's called trauma. Our being is not made to take certain doses of stress (various forms of violence, intentional or not, conditioning, etc.) and processes that are supposedly protective but at the same time destructive are put in place.
Espérons que la psychiatrie a changé depuis ce temps-là. On voit que cette pauvre femme est en souffrance mais que lui semble impuissant pour l'aider. Let's hope psychatry has improved since that time. We can this poor woman suffering but that the doctor seems to be incapable of helping her.
Psychosis refers to a collection of symptoms that affect the mind, where there has been some loss of contact with reality. During an episode of psychosis, a person's thoughts and perceptions are disrupted and they may have difficulty recognizing what is real and what is not. -National Institute of Mental Health
* Causes of depression 1. The gap between ideal and real life (disappointment). Lack of potential to achieve ideal 2. Loss of the meaning of life. Lack of attractive prospects 3. Tired of routine. Ignoring your unique purpose
Only those? Even animals get depression. Is it because they lack potential to achieve ideal? Loss of interest in life is the definition of depression not the cause. Abuse, neglect, loss of a loved one, loss in general.
Сuz is educational interview. First hing you very got to do is to understand what is happening to patient, all the encouragement or treatment goes afterwards
... yes ... one is overwhelmed with shame ... and the other is similar with shame ... one uses more religious terms and the other is more fluid in conversation ... but i can relate to both in some ways myself to a much lesser degree ... motivation and finding meaning can be tricky for the best of us ... i have depression due to trauma ... but i can say that depression is very poorly understood even now by doctors or psychiatrists ... its a mismatch between what is and what should be ... but these conditions are also cultural, biological and philosophical problems ... medication is not effective for eveyone either ... negative emotion is linked to neuroticism ... so it is as much personality as it is life environment ... depressed people like myself are not necessarily mentally ill ... many people have terrible relationships which don't help ... lack of encouragement ... guilt and shame can be a sign of relationship abuse.
So sad. Part of depression is the low energy. Feeling tired. It’s half of it. Just don’t feel like doing anything. And the name of the medicine she takes. Definitely medicine if that time. Medicine has come a long way. Thank the Lord! And as for those hopeless feelings that last forever. That’s only the feeling you get when you’re unsaved. Your soul lives forever, that’s a fact. It’ll either be in heaven or hell. No in between. And oh the punishment that awaits those who never trusted Christ as savior.
As far as your last sentence- do you mean Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, Atheists? It's very naive and very presumptuous to assume Christianity is the only way. What about people who lived and died before Jesus did? As far as punishment goes, I don't believe a good God would want to punish. Isn't forgiveness the basis of Christianity? Acting as though you know of God's punishment is putting yourself on God's level- never a good idea.
