I have a few from 1964, a rebound 1983, a genuine leather large print 1988 and a few other fifth editions from Kirkbride done in Kirvella (some handy size) as well as two of the new Zondervan classic versions of the fifth edition, a large print of CBP in lambskin (5th edition), and the large print edition of the new TCR in comfort print. I only mentioned all that to point out that I know what a TCR looks like and what should be in it. The new one is nice. The 2K Denmark typeface that Nelson/Zondervan uses is top notch and is in quite a few Nelson Bibles I own. I love it. That font is absolutely fantastic. As far as the new TCR goes, the quality is great. It's a really good reference Bible. It's easy to read and well laid out, and the good reviews it got are well earned. There is, however, one problem. This is NOT a Thompson Chain. True, it has the TCR system in it. Harper Collins bought it so they can use it as they see fit. They bought the name and can use that too. They took out a lot of the material for various reasons. What should have been done was to leave the material and UPDATE what needed to be updated. The layout changes would have been welcomed. Should you buy this? Sure, as long as you realize that it is basically only a Thompson in name only and simply uses the chain system. This is still a really good chain reference Bible. Btw, the two manuscripts that Westcott and Hort used primarily were Sinaticus and Vaticanus. Sinaticus was found by Count von Tischendorf in a refuse bin in a monastery near mount Sinai. All but one of the current versions of the Bible use these manuscripts. The NKJV is based on the Textus Receptus by it draws on the newer manuscripts in places and has some strange word choices in the Old Testament in places that raise red flags. Even though it is a bit harder to read in places, just use the KJV. It has stood the test of time. And no, Paul didn't use the KJV. LOL Some people seem to think that KJV users actually believe that. The OT was written mostly in Hebrew with a smattering of Aramaic and the NT was written in Greek. It is simply a question of textual preservation. Not preservation of the manuscripts: the originals are long gone. Preservation of the original words is the key. They were carefully and faithfully copied as the texts aged. I choose to put my trust in texts that originate from Antioch, where Christianity got its name rather than Alexandria, the birthplaces of gnosticism.
1:21 Thank you brother for your videos… I have the new print from zondervan, but I still go back to my kirkbride printing I got from cbp it just feels like home to me. I just love the older kirkbride style
I think the best current version of the Thomson Chain would have to be the one from Church Bible Publishers. And you can even buy a wide margin version of it now. It is the 5th edition but the binding is amazing for the price.
Hey brother enjoyed your series on the thompson …. I do have the new comfort print however I do have 5 1964 editions and I did get a 5th edition done by cbp that is in black licorice which I dearly love I do use the comfort print time to time but still find myself going back to my older kirkbide text. I’m just so use to the old style it just feels like home to me…” GOD bless you brother I do understand your feelings about the transition to zondervan, when kirkbride sold out it was like losing an old friend…. Believe me change can be hard for me also I’ve used my thompson over 40 years
2k Denmark is the singular most famous font makers in the world and are used in nearly every major translation. The point of a Thompson Chain Reference Bible is the references, not the articles or illustrations. I saw nothing in this video to give reason not to buy it. If you need a glossary to read your translation (to translate your translation) use a translation that is not archaic.
I had the one from Kirkbride that was published by the KJV Store but left it back in the States, I am thinking of getting another one from the KJV Store sent to the UK.
I have a 2019/2020 nasb 1977 text with all this in it. The only thing I don't like is zondsrvan doesn't make it in a genuine leather option I had to superglue the bonded leather cover back to the text block and I've only had it just over a year. Thought about reordering the same one and getting it sent off and redone in real leather
The New Thompson is better in so many ways. Being readable with the 2K font is the best change, as the old font was too small. They changed the old offensive red letter, replacing it with the readable burgundy. The book introductions were taken from the back and placed in front of each book. It seems to me that you are simply opposed to change. Change is not always good, but the changes that were made in this new TCR are absolutely appreciated.
I have a Thompson Chain Reference Bible but this one has Frank Charles Thompson and BB Kirkbride Bible Co and copyright 1979. Third printing is this true word or is it off I am trying to get a good Bible for my grown children but don't won't one that's not true or everything is left out of the Bible
@destinycoach5 It is better than the old TCR by Kirkbride. The font is readable, the book introductions are in front of each book. The cross reference system is the same. It will be an added blessing to your study.
@@Pastor-Brettbyfaith that's so good to hear. I just ordered it after much debate. Isn't it interesting that I never saw this vid BEFORE I ordered ... Only after. And I did also hear someone complaining about how horrible the old red was in the Kirk bride. Who would think that red would be so offensive??. Lol Thanks for responding.
The Acrealogical studies should have stayed whether we use them that often or not. the discovery about Jn 5 proved that the stirring of the waters belonged in the bible
4:10 Just a heads up folks… cbp has quit printing the tcr due to copyright issues from zondervan so what few tcrs are left that will be all she wrote… very disappointing
I fully agree. It’s the same thing for the Open Bible. I tried to use the 2019 edition with the comfort print and had to shelve it. There was no comparison after using the 2012 edition for so long. Christians who don’t read their Bibles like the comfort print.
Sad that they felt the need to change this great work. Now you can't find the original new, only used at Amazon. I wonder if I can find someone to take my hardcover and rebind it with leather. Might have to see if that is available locally or I will have no choice except to purchase the less than perfect perversion.
Zondervan still sells the original version (for now). I posted a video Short of how to tell the difference here: “Quick tip to know if you’re getting an Original TCRB from Zondervan #thompsonchainbible #kjvbible “ ru-vid.combAF7Xpx9Z3o?feature=share
I think they did the same thing to the Reina Valera 1960 Thompson Chain Spanish Bible as well, sad. Even in other languages it’s hard to get around it.
The New Thompson Chain Bible by Zondervan is 100 times better than the old Kirkbride editions were. Buy the new Thompson by Zondervan and I guarantee you that you will NOT be disappointed!
I would highly recommend watching the entire series before coming to your conclusion. I'm certain you would see how superior the Kirkbride editions were to these modern-day, watered-down Thompson-Chain Comfort Editions by Zondervan.
@@stewardsoftheword - I noticed that Zondervan did a TCR reprint copyright 2021. It does not claim to be a comfort-print edition. Would you happen to know if that one retained all the features of the 5th improved edition? Did they tone down the red letters? Thanks.
Its so watered down. yes, its almost not a Thompson Chain anymore. I do like how its cleaned up a bit and looks a little nicer and I was excited when the new ones were announced.. Until I did my research. I changed my mind on getting the new one.. Its like they tried to save money which is fine. but they took too much out! Seems a little shady to me .Now we get less information and have to pay more for the new ones! So sad.
As I listened to what you are implementing. It seems to me you're missing leading your viewers. For example, you don't know 2k Denmark. Therefore, you have not done your homework on that company
Better font, better layout, removed the second commandment violating art, removed the outdated and space-wasting archaeological supplement, completed all the chains that were broken/incomplete in the original. Better construction and materials. Red letter that’s actually readable (not faded pink). Even better, in the goatskin version, you get premier paper and black letter all the way through. Self-pronouncing text is a distracting nuisance. The new edition is a dramatic improvement from the old. The criticisms are nitpicky nonsense compared to the benefits and advantages of the new version. If you don’t know who 2K/Denmark is, you’re completely out of touch with Bible publishing and printing. And, yes, I skimmed all 4 videos.
Such nonsense ! I have both the new Zondervan and 5th edition 1988. And I appreciate the new font ,the old Kirkbride was nearly unreadable in red letter . your review is silly . just use both of them n stop with the nitpicking
