Pt.4 - Dave Grossman: Survivor's Guilt, PTSD, & Successful Transitions 

+Renaissance MarineTV interesting thought

My misanthropy will never be psychological extinguished I will destroy humanity.

...should make man... that is the point i dont like! lets try other words... if you ever got to fight in combat you have the right to stay in the forces at least for 3 years After the fight. have a nice Day greatz from Germany

+William Kerry good idea.

Very true... i came home to a social group that had not a single desire to understand what i had just done. Its been bad ever since i left war... which i consider my " safe space"

+Jon Williams so glad you caught that!!!!

+WickedSensation the grass wasn't THAT much greener in the military, but bro, I feel you. Be well my brother

John Lovell I did say mostly 😜. There were definitely scumbags that would destroy your career in a heartbeat but now that I'm retired I find zero in common with civilians. Too petty and distracted by things that just don't matter.

WickedSensation hi there, something came to mind from your intriguing comment. I'm a civilian from Australia who has not served, but has friends who serve (some Australian and others US), so I'm largely inexperienced with the full ramifications of what it is to experience leaving such a line of service and depth of camaraderie. However you mentioned something interesting to me in that you feel you lack commonality with civilians because of their focus on petty things. The following is not intended to compare my civilian experiences to your time in the military (they absolutely can't be), but I am a musician and a Christian who has gone to serve in big youth 'crusade' style outreaches. I remember the feeling of performing and serving 60 to 70 thousand people over the course of 2 fast pace weeks of traveling to rural destinations, preparation, performance, serving beside locals and worship. Then I returned to my office job and I quickly found myself tapping my fingers on my office desk thinking how mundane it was to be working once again in the financial industry all to generate cash and more of it, while remembering the poor and spiritually hungry people who lived in a country where religious expression was being oppressively controlled to the cultural religion of that country. I can only imagine (what our pastors referred to as culture shock) that the intensity of what you and other retired military personnel feel is multiplied many times over. But I think I understand a smidgen of your experience. My question, is it possible for you to find a place of camaraderie among those civilians who share a similar type of courage to your own? Forgive me for being presumptuous in anything that may be suggested, but the character you have developed, including courage, discipline, team mindedness, brotherhood, etc from your time serving is transferable to civilian tasks and operations, and also the skills you've learned (or at least most of them). I'm not necessarily thinking of things like law enforcement, but there are other civilians who operate in areas that could use and, more importantly, value a person who is courageous and decisive, who understands the right levels of assertion and doesn't act because they think they are tough (I'm thinking of boisterous civi's here who haven't done much of anything) but who knows what it takes to get the job done and will get down in the dirt besides another to achieve something that only one who knows what it is to 'serve', understands. Just some thoughts from an international civi who respects what military personnel go through. Be well friend.

There are exceptions to everything. Are there potentially great and trustworthy friends/co workers out there ? Yes of course. I've only been retired 14 months and I haven't found them yet, where I do find friendship is a few guys from the local gym that are also veterans. What's hard to do for me is find any common ground with civilians. Even among the "gun" guys that I chat with at the range, they just don't like the military minded take I have on weapons, tactics and shooting. Every weapon I have is a tool for fighting, I don't collect guns to sit in a safe. Being a "normal" person is very different and the stories I/we have to share frighten everyday people.

That's funny you say that, because most of the people that have fucked me over harder than anyone have been active duty and vets. I know a whole group of pansy punk ass bitch vets who i "sorta" worked with who tried to get me in trouble with the boss by orchestrating and fabricating events instead of just telling me what their fucking problem was.

+Raging Patriot I'll probably do something like that on Patreon, but for RU-vid I've probably gone as far as I will for awhile. Sometimes less is more

he said it about 20 seconds later.