@erikblackshaw1186 Man.. I'm really tired of my culture... They always using double standards, victimstance and race cards and I'm tired of being in the same category as the typical "nigga" because I'm too real for all that racist hypocritical stuff man.
@ninety2gs97 because everything Lore did or said someone else does it more or harder but they won't criticize those people They can't even admit Von was a killer. Math, Mecca are spineless and its no wonder so many people have left the show
Hip Hop in itself benefits from violence, murder and degeneracy. It's hypocritical to act like that in public and then condemn a person covering it. Our community is so lost it's eating itself.
@@Footballer85749They aren’t making money off von whatsoever they are making money off him. He wouldn’t be on show without von documentory putting him on. They would still have and other people on without von.
What makes a white man that's living in another country this interested in another countries black gang violence? Why isn't he this fascinated with what's going on around him?
Difference is THIS IS MECCAS PEOPLE AND CULTURE ! I mean the audacity to even say that. "youre benefiting FrOm tHiZ tOO" YEAH DUHHH thats the point ITS FOR OUR PEOPLE TO EAT, but of course the culture vultures like adam trap lore and most LIKE HIM always wanna eat. we remember what yall did TO ROCK N ROLL JAZZ COUNTRY ETC ETC. lastly You people like adam or trap lore will never have a say on nothing nor dictate nothing in OUR SPACE. Yall not us.
@@julesgordon1109 cuz Vlad aint a vulture. Do ur homework on Vlad, mam knows more about hip-hop than u do and was actually very deep in it BEFORE VladTv. If Vlad was a vulture he wouldn't get the guests that he does. Look at his guests and look at Adam's. Exactly. Im not the biggest Vlad fam but he aint a vulture.
@@TheeThunderGod let me give u a Lil history on vladtv. The first time I saw vlad was when he was doing an interview on a radio station (before vladtv) he was talking with a fake new york accent...I'm from the bronx so I picked it up immediately (that interview magically disappeared from youtube soon afterwards). Fast forward to his show, do you remember some years ago while doing an interview, he wasn't sure which came first, nas' ether or tupac's death (2 monumental moments in hip hop). ...this was the dead giveaway. Everything he knows about the culture was told to him by people from the culture. This is how culture vulture operate. This is exactly how lyor cohen got started in the 80s.
@@TheeThunderGodstop and think about this for a second How many of those guests EVER said they knew vlad or even saw him in hip hop circles before? If he was a "dj" in the culture somebody would have recognized him, afterall he's VERY distinguishable if you know what i mean. He added "dj" to his name to help legitimize himself in the culture....and judging by your comment, it worked. Trust me bruh, you can get black people to move if you offer them money and/or visibility.
there's nothing to hold? He's a prime example of a culture vulture! Same as the guy sitting next to him. Feed off the despair and dysfunction of the black community! been going on forever
Not true please name two podcast that call king von a serial killer mind you a regular person can't call someone a serial killer unless the cops give you that name
Imagine if it was your family member that was getting “covered” for compensation not to get shi while he mainly focus on the bad part of his their character because guess what? That's content
@@ninety2gs97Mecca doesn’t even like Vlad but he wouldn’t dare criticize Vlad as he doing trap because of Vlad is more beneficial to them. Trap is the new up and comer so Mecca feels he can speak that culture vulture shit. Go watch lad first time on this Bullshit show. Pay attention to mecca you can see how much hate and destain he has for white Vlad
Clearly not very sharp so I can see why you'd run your mouth without proper thought, but then when you are showed you're wrong, you double and triple down lmao. A true dummy
Somebody pissed in Mecc’s cheerios before this episode 😂😂😂. Now that Champ is gone Mecc has to drive Math to and from the shop and he’s NOT happy about it.
You can’t glorify the fears of Black people, the failure is in you if you allow them to hurt you, they’ll hurt you !!mental mind travels 500 years of oppressed feelings🙏🏿🤔
*Selective outrage* at its finest. The chickens have finally come home to roost. Hip-hop is looking at itself in the mirror and it doesn't like what it is seeing
How bout we DON"T praise a SERIAL KILLER............. Hypocrisy like a MFR.....Now we mad at the reporter??...Ross was on point with the Gaza reference...
Man glorified serial killers has been a thing for centuries. From John Gotti to Hilter. People been profiting and keeping these guys names alive sense the beginning of time.
@@UnSat_Salty_Dawga more appropriate word would be fascinated, not glorified. The only people that glorifies killers is the hip hop fraternity...how many rappers named themselves after gotti....or even have the word "killer" in their names?
@@julesgordon1109 there are plenty of other groups that glorify k_illers...not just hip hop. american s_upremacist groups have been praising h_itler for decades 🤷🏽♂
trying to press Ross over shit other people do by choice is crazy. Ross is only showing what these violent guys do. The problem should be with criminals not Ross
What's the difference between Vlad and Trap Lore? Both white, born in Europe who cover hip-hop. Mecca would never treat Vlad like that. Keep that same energy!!
In the community we need to start being transparent because we can’t glorify these actions then be upset if a negative label gets put on it. The community has not gotten better it’s not normal for kids to walk around with murder on their mind. Chicago legit wiped out a whole generation
I love how guys like you always point the blame at the community but never the ones responsible for starting this whole dysfunctional system in the first place. there for i dont take these post serious. once you educate yourself you will see we would of BEEN uplifted ourselves up outta this in fact we were Untill the people you afraid to call out did what they did.
@@catchwreck928 Bro you can blame the "system" but the "system" has not and will not change the community for the better. Its like an abuse victim, the abused arent responsible for their abuse but they are 100% responsible for the healing and growth afterwards. Its lame to keep blaming the "system" like kids in these situations only have one path, that of a psychopathic killer/rapper. Blame the parents for not taking them out of that environment. Regardless of economics once you have a child you are 100% responsible for that childs well being and you owe it to that child to provide the best possible outcomes. Children owe us nothing, we owe them everything.
Vlad doesn’t really do the same thing as these two. All three suffer from entitlement and not really grasping aspects of the culture but these two are much more exploitative. I think Vlad has at least learned why certain subjects aren’t cool and to respect boundaries, to an extent at least. Adam seems to get off on pushing buttons and feeling superior.
If this was the 90's, Trap would be working at The Source along with Mecca or XXL or Vibe. I remember the Ice T cover with all the LA gang signs at the bottom. All them mags used to stories on hood violence. They aint rockin with him cuz he's white and from the UK
On my soul. Shit is getting out of hand now im not even gone lie bruh.. I don't care what color you are, a hypocrite is a hypocrite is a damn hypocrite... They lame asf for this.
@peferredservice2207 When has Math Hoffa or any of these dudes posted Von's music, interviewed Von or try to reach out to "help" Von and Chicago on the gang violence?? If anything Math is apart of the problem also, portraying that street persona keeping you dumb mfs stuck in that "ghetto mentality". Culture ???? Do you know a white woman owns hip hop ?? Yeah I bet you didn't. Yall never know nothing about y'all "culture".
@@jiggaman000 oh Math is a shady vulture, no question! Math cashapps his hosts. No jumper has a more structured ACH payroll. AD was getting $5K/mo. Idk how many shows Mecca shoots a week tho, but they not cookin like they use to. I’m pretty sure Gat murdah gets paid much less than Mecc
Can't blame him when every content creator wants to be Akademiks or DJ VLAD, he's just following the algorithm like everybody else. Chicago don't even care at this point. RIP VON💯
@@albertpullhoes Some Chicago niggas be giving them all the info so blame them. I use to judge it but I had to remember the 50 cent era when I was a kid. Same shit just more extreme.
Von literally rapped about the murders he did and when he was younger he insinuated through tweets about them right before and right after they occurred. Can't blame trap lore for reporting about somebody who has a very interesting life story.
They brought this dude from the uk to talk about the king von doc.. let's not be a hypocrite here.. math said "not the way you did" well that's your fault bro.. everybody should try to benefit to the fullest if that's what they want.. just cus you made 10$ and I made 100$ doesn't mean im worst than you.. we both have the intentions period.
Wow I must say this is some major window licking logic. So when Math brought DESUS on and they talked about his deal with SHOWTIME...was he making money off SHOWTIME? He brought Dame on and they spoke about Rocafella days...is he making money off Rocafella? The LIFE BLOOD of TLRs channel is following/promoting d**d rappers and their lifestyle. Him not being able to say "Yes I make money off exploiting KV murders" only makes him look as silly as y'all do defending him. When these topics come up just be quiet, it's obvious you don't know what your talking about
Don’t hate when someone else is doing better than you are at something. My black peoples if we don’t want “Culture Vultures” banking all the money from our ignorance than let’s do better. It is a choice rather you realize it or not. 💯
Ppl do documentaries all the time. This is not a problem and I can’t understand why you guys are acting like it is. If anything his vids made Von and company more money and more fans
No one can get mad at him. He is covering something that someone put in the atmosphere. If you don't want people talking and investigating, people should STOP SNITCHING ON YOURSELF!!!
Shout out to MEO for just creating the platform to have these conversations. Whichever side we pick is on us but this is great engagement I can appreciate
Everything we're saying is true, about them making money off of our life and stories culture, etc, but guess what? We are all "playa hatin' from the sidelines" because we are spectators. They are in the game. We can Easily be a blogger, podcaster, journalist, and all that good stuff. We are watching other people talk about other people who were watching other people 😂
You got a room full of people who monetarily live off of other people's exploits complaining about doing exactly the same thing is funny. Lol. Yo this is so mad funny. This show is Mecca and Math barely ever getting it.
Facts💯 Im from Chicago never met Von, i knew his Daddy Silk from back in the days..Trap talks about how von trolled 🦆 Cgr making it seem like they was innocent victims, none of them was innocent victims Cgr was on camera with Tb when he popped Troy let's talk about that all because the boy talked about it in his music i still won't understand how that makes him a serial killer..Both sides played God when will Trap Lore Ross do a documentary on that tho🤔 Talk about the crying Mothers from over there
Mecca seems like he just plain doesn’t like Ross. So even though he thinks he’s being 100% logical and “holding him accountable” his emotion and personal feelings are overriding what he’s trying to get across.
exactly the people that don't look like us at these major media companies make money off of our rise and downfall (look at what is happening to diddy white people did not care when they were making money off of him now they want to turn around and act shocked at the last minute)
Shout out to Adam for being here with him, these guys are bullying this guy is a journalist, his doing his work, if someone is shooting other people someone whose in the field of hip hop documentaries will benefit, this is just bullying.
se·ri·al kill·er noun: A person who commits a series of murders, often (with no apparent motive) and typically following a characteristic, predictable behavior pattern. This definition does not describe Von. A multitude of his friends was murdered by rival gang members & he retaliated on his fallen friends behalfs in very unpredictable ways. His motives was very clear unlike a serial killer. People will label 🏷 you anything as long as it fits their narrative...
That’s a real statement. Art is art. It’s made for people from all different walks of life to processes, fall in love with and share… the color of your skin shouldn’t invalidate your passion and desire to speak on it. As long as it’s for real, and TLR clearly devotes his time and energy into getting to kno the whole story as far as he can… Adam has loved HipHop his whole life, decided to take that passion and turn it into a career and then build a major platform that employs people from the community… if there is true love for the culture in someone’s heart that’s all that should really matter…
@@fallinstr2098 i wasn't really referring to them. I was talking bout more like The Alchemist, Statik Selektah, Scram Jones, Marco Polo, MC Search, Eminem, Everlast, A-Trak, Evidence, Mac Miller 🕊️, Apathy list goes on.
The fact people calls them culture vultures but its really just holding up a mirror to the ignorance we celebrate. Thats not hip hop culture its gang culture. Ludacris is hip hop, Nas nem hip hop not King Von
Mecca needs to knock off the “smartest guy in every room” schtick. Being argumentative doesn’t make you right when you are wrong. Von did the interviews and made the tweets before he got killed being super tough. Anyone that profits from putting together and telling the story he left behind is smart! People get killed all the time bd no one except the killer sometimes, profits from it. A superstar rapper that died with all that blood on his hands tho, thats a story to sell. Foh with the rest of that bs. If Von didn’t get himself killed he those people would still be dead, Von would be tweeting and interviewing even more and MEO would be in line trying to get his murdering ass on the platform to say some more shit….
The hypocrisy is crazy. They’re really grilling him about reporting crime that rappers are already openly talking about. But then they’ll have that same rapper, that made a career off of talking about murder, and they’ll all be smiling in his face and excited to interview him.
Math & Mecca interview gangsters who talk about their past life and T.L.R is reporting on a serial killer / gang culture…what’s the problem here? Y’all both benefiting off someone’s story (Media) end of discussion
These dudes are hypocrites. "We are all media!" ... EXACTLY! This show doesn't ONLY highlight positive shit -- I'd say they cover more negative than positive
