Bench ball is played very odd where you guys are from😂: i played it that two people from each team going on the enemy's bench and its seperated like dodge ball and the people on the bench have to catch the ball and then if they catch it then you join them on the bench and you have to get your whole team on the bench on the enemy side
@@umarrajpura9634 JJ and Simon became friends after they had a physical fight. They were forced to talk to each other because of the teacher and they became best friends after. Simon talks about it in a podcast with S1. Technically Jj, Simon, Josh and Tobi are the main Sidemen so if that fight didn’t happen, the Sidemen would’ve not been created. The link : m.ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-qT7LVlYAjdo.html
Where I’m from, public school is just a school everyone goes to and not pay for, private schools you pay for, and religious schools which you don’t pay for don’t know any grammar schools near me and don’t know any private schools called public, Ive never heard of a state school in uk
My take on Grammar schools: Grammar schools are interesting (I've gone to one for the last 5 years) because they take all the best students they can, meaning even if the teachers are bad the students will do well in exams because of that innate ability they were initially chosen for. So there are teachers at my school who can't teach shit and students taught by them still got incredible GCSE results. It's up to the student imo, but the grammar school environment is amazing because you're really competitive with your peers because they're all able minds just like you. Whereas at a school without an entrance exam you will experience mixed abilities of students, so you'll usually not be that competitive because it is relatively more easy to be the best of that bunch(no hate to non-Grammar school kids) but I think that in a grammar school you feel pushed to achieve more. The students and the atmosphere are better motivators than the teachers in my opinion. At the end of the day though, I think it's up to the student. An excellent student will excel everywhere. Sorry about the essay.
You act all superior yet you don’t even go to a private school? Pathetic when your parents muster up enough cash to come private then let me know you pleb!
I went to a private school and can say for a fact that if I didn't go, I would not be where I am now in terms of my education. But it is a lot of money so may not be worth it for some people. Simon and JJ were ripped off if they had to pay to go to a shit school 😂
Private school - where you either pay or get a scholarship Public school/charity school/independent school - where you pay if you can, can get sponsored by rich af people, or get bursaries which are payed for by the government or donators State school - a non paying, government funded school with no grade requirements Grammar school - where you have to pass the 11+ or 13+ to get in Prep school - usually paying school that goes up till year 9 Also lots of public schools and some private schools have separate entrance exams
KyleJS We did something called games every friday. One group would go Ice Skating and the other would go to a place where they had a option to either play football or go to the gym facility. You only did this if you didn’t do sports Btec gcse
Slightly wrong, you were comparing private and state. It goes: public, private, grammar, state. If anyone is actually curious, read on 😂 Public: used to be run "by the public" and would charge fees for any scholars who could afford to go. These derived from charity schools. They were not owned by the state and fees paid would be returned into the school. The term public comes from them not being selective based on background (e.g. religion) and so anyone who could afford them and met the selective grade requirements could attend. Private: originally for profit establishments. Now offer an alternative to state schools for those who can afford them. Most have grade requirements also. Grammar: grades based entry with an 11+ being taken to enter. Whilst most are not fees based, some are. State: free and not grade dependent. Independent and Academies: publicly funded schools which can have certain entrance criteria e.g. faith schools. Other: some schools can be state and charge e.g. state boarding schools. Many of the fee paying schools have scholarships based on anything from living circumstances (e.g. foster children) to sporting or academic abilities. Also, regions in the UK then completely screw with all of the above 😂 There we go, a more comprehensive version of what I have previously written for all who were offended the first time 😂
I cut out a lot so I didn't leave a stupidly long message and, actually, the majority is pretty much spot on. I probably made a few discrepancies, but by all means, enlighten me! I used to teach but what do I know...
I’ve been to both a state and private school and they’re both good but I prefer my private school, it’s a school that was actually very focused on grades and sport and we usually got 80-90% of kids getting A and above, the facilities and general atmosphere was much better in the private school, everyone was defintely posher but everyone was more accepting in my private school
The good thing is with private schools is that they actually have money and good facilities (because you pay for it) whereas I go to a grammar school and yes, it is good but we constantly are being told that we don't have enough money and are running out of paper for example and also all they care about is grades.
One problem I know about with private school is that because you have to pay some parents send them and can’t afford it so their kids are in and out of that school which means that people’s friends leave or people leave and they get inconsistencies.
Really great point about the private schools Simon but sorry I think I might disagree with you about grammar schools - friends of mine from kent always talk about the effect failing/passing/preparing for the 11+ had on them and the pressure put on students at such a young age. students at grammars are more likely too have anxiety and stress disorders. friends of mine who've been to grammars also said that they were told 'b's aren't good enough' and that it meant they were more likely to fail in life than students with A's at GCSE. If there's more of a change toward wellbeing etc on the curriculum - in theory I think it's a great idea but it also excludes those who don't test well.... Idk just a thought x
Think the belief Grammar Schools are good is flawed. Having attended one, the Grammar School created a divide between those who got in & those who didn't immediately. The football team I played for before become divided between the two groups, despite nothing changing between us. Also, the idea that 'anyone' whose smart enough get into Grammar School is also wrong. The exam to get in means wealth parents pay large amounts of money for their kids to get tutored & they can afford to send them to board, or to move closer within the school's catchment area, increasing their chance of getting in. So all in all, grammar schools are just a middle class little bubble.
*IT IS NOT DOWN TO THE PULILS OR TEACHERS, IT IS DOWN TO THE AMOUNT OF EFFORT YOU PUT INTO THE WORK!! I go to an all girls state school and I find the teaching excellent and comparable to the teaching at a private school but if you don't actually try then you won't get anything out of any school you go to*
I go to a private all girls school in Australia. It is not funded by the government and that’s why it’s pretty expensive. There is an all boys school nearby and we do musicals and dances together. It is a catholic school but there are many different religions at my school. There were no entrance exams you pretty much just had to be able to pay. Fun Fact my school is older than the Australian Government ( it’s almost 180 years old)
I went to a public school but changed PE every term like Simon, I really hated it so luckily my mum and dad said I could get home schooled so now my mum home schools me :) ITS SO MUCH BETTER THAN SCHOOL!
Private school has smaller class sizes. I went to state school and there were 30 ish kids in each class. in the private school there are like 15-22. or smaller. a lot of parents like that
Otakar Polak well it’s not one that you pay for. Put after 6th grade you either go to the “gymnasium” up to 12th grade abs get a degree you can go to university with (like me) or you stay at the other part up to 10th grade and get that degree, with which you can’t study at a university with. However, you don’t need a specific grade to get that “higher education” and as long as you pass 6th grade, you can go and if you don’t pass 7th grade in that “higher” beach of education, you will be set back to the other one. So as long as you keep yourself barely up and just barely pass, you can go up to 12th grade.
In Australia you have private and public schools, every one get a certain amount of funding from the government but independent schools which can be both public and private get less than government run ones. However for some reason catholic schools get more funding as well. I have been to both a public and private school and I feel that private schools are better. It was all girls whereas the publics are Co-ed and it's so much easier to focus in a single sex environment and overall the facilities and education opportunities are better plus there is more sport and music.
I went to a state school from year 7-11 then got a scholarship to a private school with shorts and high socks in year 12 and 13 and i think that there is no difference its is just being away from home and far better teachers
iLikeJam Gaming Losing your virginity at 7-11?! That's just false and only people who went to private schools say that, at that age studying isn't a priority. It should be mixed since it reflects adult life and you learn social skills. A lot of people have a hard time already interacting with the opposite sex which is due to segregation at an early age.
@@NoDaysOff211 Being at a mixed school doesn't cause those issues though. I went to an all boys and a bunch of the guys from my year group have been to prison/are in prison/ are involved in gangs and drug shit. Those issues are more to do with social class and where you're school is. Plus Butterbean is 100% right in saying going to a single sex school can really damage your social skills.
iLikeJam Gaming I see your point but if you were lgbt 🏳️🌈 imagine being in that environment. By having more than one gender you can learn about yourself and that is a crucial part of development. As well as stereotypes are gonna be more enforced and if you are slightly more masculine or feminine than a stereotype you stand out more. As well as developing respect and seeing others as equal
I went to both private and public (private first) and I can tell you that public school is WAY better, granted I’m South African and schooling is quite different then the UK schooling system. In my private school it was mixed but my public school was all boys but public is just a better vibe tbh
I feel like private schools aren’t as common in America. The people that went to private school went to religious private schools in America. There is only one non religious private school in my area and it’s only grades k-8 so those students still went to public high school. Along with that, a lot of private school kids would switch to public high schools. I went to public school my entire learning career. But in 7th grade when my parents wanted to switch me to private school because I was heavily bullied my only option was afew catholic schools. (The non religious school was too expensive) but because I’m not religious, I chose to stick out the bullying.
Simon has had a very bad experience with private schools as there are bad ones. If you can’t get into a good one then maybe they are bad but they are worth the money attitudes do change. There are private schools that are notorious for being bad. Mine personally is one of the nicest you can get. I have Saturday school and 8:30 to 6:00. The entrance exam was tough so it is a smart school. People will watch this from a state school only perspective and think private schools are a “waste of money”. I have friends who have been to both and they say the same thing. When they say state schools can be good they will never be as good private as it is funded so heavily. My school is around 20k a year per pupil with 800-900 pupils but a good state school will never be near that.
At the end of the day you come out with the same piece of paper showing your GSCE grades. I went to one of the top grammar schools and it easily outperformed many private schools, therefore showing that chucking money at education isn't necessarily going to work.
You missed a comma between money and attitudes. I guess public school's are shit. By the way you went to a public school not private. Simon got the terminology wrong.
Here's a fun little history lesson on the whole "private school, public school, state school" thing - because, _really_ , what the hell is the difference? Well, back in the day, when education was only for the extremely wealthy, if you wanted an education, you'd have to hire a tutor and learn in your home. But when the middle class started growing, and more people wanted education, they set up schools that anyone (with enough money) could go to, and they wouldn't have to get a private tutor. They were called public schools because, unlike the private in-home education that the extremely wealthy opted for, they were *public* for anyone to use. They didn't get cheaper... so that's why they're so expensive nowadays. I even heard on Ed Miliband's podcast that they still get a lot of subsidisation from the government...
Sorry Simon and Randolph, but you did get your terms mixed up. In the UK, there are 2 main types of schooling, other than being homeschooled: State and Independent. State schools are free and are run by the government. This includes both Grammar schools and Academies (Sponsored schools), as well as Comprehensives, and are inspected by Ofsted. Independent schools are Private and Public schools. Private schools are partially funded by both the pupils' families and the government, while Public schools are funded mainly by the pupils' families and charitable donations. Both I think are inspected by the Independent Schools Council. Side-note: Other than a handful of Grammar schools, only Independent schools have the option of Boarding. Hope this helps. 😊
Hey, we also do have a very small handful (38, i just googled it!) of state boarding schools with fees for boarding. I taught at one! But for the vast majority you're right, boarding means private or public!
You're right mostly, apart from the Grammar schools; Grammar schools are paid for by the pupils parents and the student needs to pass a test to get into the grammar school. I went to my local state secondary school whilst one of my friends went to Stockport Grammar School where her parents had to pay 10k each term for her to go to it, there's another one locally to me called Kings Grammar School and that's £4.330 per term.
Sorry but a public school in England and Wales is a long-established, student-selective, fee-charging independent secondary school that caters primarily for children aged between 11 or 13 and 18, and whose head teacher is a member of the Headmasters' and Headmistresses' Conference (HMC). So schools like eton, Westminster and Winchester, etc... are all public schools and all hundreds of years old. As an aside Westminster was founded originally by Henry the 8th for the education of 40 poor scholars. Then later re founded in 1561 (I think) by Queen Elizabeth I Om the same principle hence why there are the Queens scholars whereas eton you have the Kings scholars.
Some former State-funded Grammar Schools have applied to be an Independent School, so they can be more selective and receive more public-funding. However, generally most Grammar schools are government-run, as up until the 1960s, primary school students had to do a 11+ exam to see if they attended their local Grammar school or the Comprehensive Secondary school. Plus Public schools are not at all funded or run by the state. In fact, some don't even follow the National Curriculum and instead teach a variety of other qualifications, such as the Cambridge Pre-U and International A Levels or the International Baccalaureate Diploma.
I did year 7-9 in public school and 10-13 in private school. Lots of rugby sporty successful lads in private and lots of unsuccessful sporty lads at public school. Both were mixed. Private had better education and smarter ratio of people but public had more smarter people
Simon is very ignorant here. The differences between state school and Private school is staggering. The quality of teaching at private is so much better than at State school it’s crazy
I go boys and girls private school and rugby is the main sport and then hockey and then cricket in the summer but I’m only good at football rugby is trash
I go to a grammar school and used to go to a comprehensive in yr 7 and I can say for a fact that the teaching quality is far better at my grammar school.
However, rich families pay for tutoring for their children to go to grammar schools so there the proportion of rich/well off people in grammar school is still higher
@Sarosh Anwer Also I am just saying that from my experience the teaching quality is far better. Addressing your point, many grammar schools are academies as well so I'm not sure how to interpret data that brought you to your conclusion
@@euanbell912 They are not necessarily well qualified, however, a grammar school often comes with a better reputation both socially and academically, thus attracting better staff
@@Leo-zu5yl You don't have to believe me I am just sharing my opinions gained from personal experience and logic. My logic being that if one of my friends that went to a grammar school is now more intelligent (more so than they already were) both in lifestyle choices and academically than a friend who went to a normal state school, the quality of education in the grammar school must be better
In my school, by the time we got to like Year 10 and the PE teachers realised how shit our class was, we just played dodgeball every lesson, but they started to have some fun with it to be fair, and come up with new things, until by the end we played Ultimate Dodgeball every week. Basically, you have shields, them things gymnasts vault over to hide behind, big crash mats to build forts out of, and when you die, you can go 360 degrees around the pitch, so could get the other team from all angles. What a fucking game that was. I hate sports, but that was the shit.
i go to josh and tobi’s old school and it’s a grammar. In my opinion, it’s the best school in our area both grades and behaviour wise. If i had the choice , I’d stay in my school anyday
Do some RESEARCH before you talk about grammar schools as though they’re the best thing ever. They’re a huge part of the problem when it comes to our education system....
Also Callux went to a public school called Christ’s hospital. There’s an entrance exam and it’s a charity school so many bursarys are offered based on home situations and funding. They wear weird asf cloaks but that’s just because it’s an old fashioned school. It’s boarding and scholarships are offered but are taken away too.
I did public-private school. not much is different but I found that people, and teachers were the main significant differences. private school is not worth the money but having said that, it was better than the public school I attended.
I did grammar school year 7 and 8 and i am now at a boys private boarding school. I wouls say that the education is the same, but i really prefer my teachers in my current school. Maybe this is because it is boarding and tbe teachers are around the whole time so they are more friendly to us. I do want girls at the school, but i think the school i am at now is the best that i have gone to. The friends i have made are great, and the school life is amazing. If there were girls, that would make it even better.
Grammar schools are disgusting. Children have to have the grades to get in, in year 6. To get good grades at that age you still have to have money. It’s privilege
The more money you have, you can afford to have a tutor for your child, if you don’t have money and don’t have all day to teach your child then they won’t get it
Public Schools are an elite group of private independant schools and are fee-paying schools (Eton, Harrow, Rugby, Winchester, Shrewsbury etc). Private schools are fee-paying schools outside the 'public school' group (Hampton, Habs etc). Grammar schools are state schools with entry requirements and comprehensive schools and state schools requiring no selective entry.
@@eden7486 You have k-12 from 4/5 to 18. That, I'm pretty sure, is mandatory. In England, we go from 4 to 16 and you have to learn something for the next two years but it doesn't have to be in a school. For example, you can get a apprenticeship however, most people do two more years at school that is called sixth form until they're 18
No after year 11 we have something called sixth form, it is from year 12-13. It is not compulsory but most people do it especially if they have passed their GCSE’s and have an actuall career in mind.
As someone who went to private state and grammar school ill say that grammar was the best (u pay 1/3 of private fees) and priv was total waste of money
I have been going to a private school since reception and the amount of times people dig in to me for it is unreal and I don’t actually know why people do it tbh
I go to private school on a scholarship which enables me to go without having to pay anything. From my situation, I feel privileged to have this and feel that my education is truly better than that of my friends which go to a kind of grammar school (entrance exam but not recognized as a grammar school). However for the money, I don't think it is completely worth all of that money, but it is certainly a bonus to me,
@@bigting9803 wow what school do u go, once again i might have have forgot to say that this defo doesn't apply to all schools but the school i go to is originally 12k a year so yeh and its not *fully* worth it but there are still some obvious benefits and advantages
We play benchball differently 😂we had 2 teams and a catcher who stood on the opposite side on the bench. If the catcher catches the ball then whoever throw the ball then goes on the bench. Aim of the game get all of your team on the bench before the other team
Yeah Definitely homeschooling is the best option, if you have the option. since I am homeschooled and it’s kinda weird how no one is talking about it lol (reasons for it is 1on1 teaching, more relaxed schedule, and more. But it does require a parent or a good teacher)
Public School = free state comprehensive school, no entry grades Grammar = free, for the smart kids? High entry grades Private schools = Rich kids, no entry grades.
Well actually it goes like this State school = free government funded school that anyone can get into Grammar school = no entry grades to get in, you can’t pay your way in if youre stupid Public school = the same thing as a grammar school but you can pay to get in or get in with good grades Most people call it my the american names but this is the UK terms
I went to a grammar school but had many friends who went to a private school and they all said my grammar school was better and they hated the fact that they didn’t get there because of themselves and got there purely on there parents success
