Pulse MIG vs Short Circuit

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@EonOne867 3 года назад

Valuable information as always :) Weird audio cut out when you where talking about the gas.

@jimandskittum 3 года назад

Speaking of gas, what was that noise around 7:06?

@oSKIIBOWSK1o 2 года назад

@@jimandskittum Hahahaha was thinking the same thing

@josephsmithe5774 3 года назад

I've got an Everlast pulse mig welder but never tried that feature. What a great video with a clear explanation.

@davew3348 3 года назад

Another great video Jason great information. It’s nice to see using the two different techniques and how it performs with the different gases keep them coming

@retiredwelder 3 года назад

I used to run 100s hard wire in pulse mode at the shipyard. The navy wouldn’t let us use flux core on big ut butts vertical up. We could only use 100s wire in pulse mode. We used 95/5 gas. I’d love to see you do a 3 inch thick vertical butt double bevel and gouge out the back and weld it out and then ut it to see how it comes out. 0.45. Not 0.35. Just like to see it as I had to retire early due to cancer treatment issues. I beat it. Not looking for sympathy just would really like to see a video on that. Have a great day. Love all your videos. I’d like to add it was only certain steel types that we couldn’t use flux core.

@oknave327 3 года назад

Great video. Keep them coming, especially the ones on pulse GMAW!

@job38four10 3 года назад

Pulse helps with vertical down on thin gauge steel. I make shelfs when going vertical. Good video!!!

@rsbharley4766 2 года назад

Great video with great info. Thanks for taking the tome to share. Cheers

@MAC_6.7 3 года назад

Great compare. Keep em coming!

@adriannavarrofonseca7179 3 года назад

I'm SO PROUD OF YOU GUYS... always using PROPERLY your PPE! Too good for all of you and very educational to ALL OF US!

@unclebob4208 3 года назад

I like the triangle technique for uphill. Good call.

@KANEKIDWELDS 3 года назад

This is AWESOME! Just dropping off a Knowledge 💣

@justinhayward154 3 года назад

If you pause the video and draw straight lines down through both cut and etch lines, the short arc seemed to actually penetrate slightly more than the spray transfer.

@JamesZJi 5 месяцев назад

Based on every video i saw, Short circuit always have more pen on the side wall. Spray has more into the root direction. Only destruction test can tell the truth.

@donsmith9081 Месяц назад

@@JamesZJiI noticed same. I think spray (cone) is too wide-limiting root penetration. I would like to see cut/etch with spray at closer contact stickout.

@Brainmalfuction 3 года назад

Great video you should do more vids covering pulse mig both steel ss and aluminum

@randymc61 3 года назад

You used a different pattern on the short circuit than you did on the pulse, but didn't explain why, or if that had anything to do with not getting into the root. It also looks worse, because the pulse was done first, and pulled the piece to that side, leaving a slight gap for the short circuit side. All that said, it looks to me the short circuit actually had deeper penetration. Could you explain why you used a different pattern, and maybe try it again doing the short circuit first, then the other side to compare apples to apples?

@elisell8299 3 года назад

You guys should do a demo on how to mig weld exaust tubing.

@Migman2020 3 года назад

I normally run spray downhill and use the arc force to keep the puddle in place so that enough penetration occurs.. never seen anyone manage uphill spray

@MySweatyThighs1 3 года назад

Can you do a video about accu pulse welding versus short circuit? We mainly use accu pulse while at work and only use short circuit to uphill or fill in gaps thanks and great video

@peetky8645 3 года назад

can you run vertical up spray with fcaw-s or does the vertical fcaw-s penetrate well enough with short ckt or globular

@nameofthegame9664 3 года назад

Using spray vertical is very much doable but you need to manipulate your puddle a lot to get a good looking weld and that makes you sacrifice penetration in your root.

@bigpotato555 3 года назад

Can you show outside corner joint on 1/8", downhill pulse?

@lorenzogonzaga7917 3 года назад

I just started a job welding 1/4 inch ar500 steel we use .45 wire and I’m having a really hard time getting my welds to properly fuse both sides. Can you do a video to help?

@devonmoore3289 3 года назад

You can spray overhead fillets. I have to do it for my job

@garypackard2532 3 года назад

Happy Birthday Devil Dog!

@johnmacmillan627 5 месяцев назад

Thx. Question: little confused about your settings. When you changed to pulse what was the difference in settings vs non pulsed

@chele-chele 20 дней назад

Weldology, love it!

@robmadison4985 3 года назад

So is short circuit acceptable for thicker material if they are beveled and you run stringer beads?

@Yogesh-gf7ps 3 месяца назад

Can we control bead height 2 - 2.5 mm in CMT mode by using. 100 Argon and1.2mm dia wire in cladding

@markrosinski4814 3 года назад

why you did not use the triangle technique for uphill on short circuiting?

@dustycraig8588 3 года назад

Is there an advantage one way or the other between GMAW-P and FCAW-G. Seems like the flux core with gas can perform the same as the pulsed spray? and you wouldn't need to invest in a machine that has a pulse option. The added cost of the flux cored wire would seem to be offset by the lesser cost of running straight CO2 in lieu of the higher percent argon mix.

@delinquentdesign 3 года назад

What if you whip it forward then back like you would with stick? Give it a chance to freeze then come back to continue the weld. Just saying

@10000rambos 3 года назад

We ran overhead w/spray and had no troubles. It was only out of convenience- and what I mean by that is instead of taking 15 mins to move the part around with the jib crane, we’d just run it overhead. But, I see what you’re getting at here.

@respawnicon 2 года назад

Wait so how did you run spray in the first flat fillet weld using 75/25? Or did I miss you switching out the gas for that

@johncunnington3914 3 года назад

Those everlast machines are great. They are the best bang for your buck out there.

@2016709889 3 года назад

Esab rogue 180, Miller thunderbolt 160, Lincoln century, everlast 200. what’s the best of the best portable stick welder in the $600 range? Your opinion, greatly respected. What you think? I’m leaning towards the esab.

@larrymoore5394 3 года назад

Thanks for the info. LARRY MOORE

@miffyleslie 3 года назад

How bout using 100% Argon with 70s6 wire?? How does that work out??

@wtfatc4556 2 года назад

They say coke is addictive.... But i tried pulse mig once and it's over... Now i just pulse everything.....i cannot stop. I don't want to stop!

@bobturismo9082 3 года назад

Yeah i have no idea what you're talking about, I realize now that I know nothing about welding in general lol

@DeathTollRacing 3 года назад

So on the short circuit side the fit up wasn’t as tight as the pulse side since the pulse side was done first and pulled a small gap in the other side. So it’s kinda not apples to apples. Looking at the acid etching, the penetration depth actually looks to be similar, but it wasn’t measured, we were just going off optics. I like the pulse though, so much cleaner.

@kevobrando95lx44 2 года назад

Why does the millermatic 220 splatter like hell on plulse mig with 035 on c25. I get super nice clean flat welds, great penetration but the splatter is wild and I hear all the time pulse is supposed to have anti splatter qualities

@christians131 3 года назад

I’ve been able to spray in the overhead (4F) position but I have to really keep my travel speed up

@randyharris6527 3 года назад

It can be done absolutely. Steeper push angle and quick whip n pause

@levi7370 3 года назад

Hey, I've been wondering in a production setting running 1/4 steel and thinner on non structural applications is there a benefit to running pulse over short circuit other than post weld cleaning? Is it possible to run pulse downhill on thin and thick metal without lack of fusion?

@hodgepodgeenginerd1258 3 года назад

Pulse is the preferred mode for all welding in my shop (Lincoln welders and rapid arc for vertical down). In house we recommend pulse over short circuit for all applications unless we have to use metal core, too many guys cold lap short circuit because we aren’t given time to clean scale. We make dump trucks out of ss, gr50, and mild steel. We ran pulse vertical down for years before we found out it’s “not recommended”

@kevobrando95lx44 2 года назад

You might have issues with cooking your thinner material but fusion shouldn't be an issue. Pulse atleast on the machines I've used run hotter and faster wire. You set the arc length rather than wire speed, real weird but definitely nice flat solid welds coming from pulse.

@mattfogarty8144 3 года назад

Say you had to weld thick material out of position and you were stick welding it say it was 5/16th thick if you ran a 5/32nd rod and multi passed it it would be enough right?

@mattfogarty8144 3 года назад

I ask this because the only time I myself am gonna weld metal this thick would be doing mobile repair most likely and I'll be setup for stick welding also wouldnt it be best to bevel this if I'm really worried about punching into the root? Just wondering thanks jason always appreciate when you do a video you explain things really well verbally and under the hood

@jmbauer68 2 года назад

Can mts 225 lighting spray mig?

@idriwzrd 3 года назад

Good comparison. However... a spool of E710 and maybe a couple tips are a lot more affordable than a new welder. Maybe a comparison between dual shield and pulse MIG is in order? Also, your uphill technique leaves room for improvement.

@GaryForgingOn 3 года назад

Question: If I need to weld an 1/16" or 1/8" wall tubing to 1/2" plate or thicker. Is it okay to short circuit MIG or should I stick weld it? Do I set the machine for the thinner material or something hotter? I know it will weld into the thinner material fine but will it penetrate the thicker material enough? I have a Lincoln 210 mp so I cannot spray. I run 035 wire , c25 gas. Just my home projects. Welding legs onto a plate to make an anvil stand. I usually go hotter and direct my heat into the thicker metal but maybe that is wrong.

@hodgepodgeenginerd1258 3 года назад

You can mig this just fine. Aiming into the thicker stuff is right. Grind the scale off to improve penetration. I’d turn the machine down enough to keep from burning holes in the tube.

@GaryForgingOn 3 года назад

@@hodgepodgeenginerd1258 Thank you. I will do that.

@victorreppeto7050 3 года назад

As a new makerspace club cost is a major concern as we put together a metal fab shop on a budget. We are thinking tig/stick because it is awesome but argon is spendy. I think we can tig braze with nitrogen. They use nitrogen as shielding gas in a couple different situations. What about tig brazing with pure nitrogen? 50/50 mix? Would Mr. tig demo this maybe?

@notanymore9471 3 года назад

What’s interesting is when you went vertical in spray made it started short circuiting 🤔

@gabrielcarrizo4880 3 года назад

Great stuff as always,. Here is a question, l dont have the posibility to change gas, should I move to Flux core for 3/8 and up? Greetings from Argentina

@donsmith9081 Месяц назад

Greetings from California!

@Lookatitclosely559 3 года назад

Can you still do vertical pulse spray on the thick material like 1” on a miller350p? Anyone want to drop quick settings

@philanderingwhitecollartra8281 3 года назад

In one pass??? LoL Just run stringers...

@gamerboi111 3 года назад

does pulse mig work with 75/25... I used it like that in school and it sounded and looked just like the one you ran with the higher argon mix, was wondering what the difference in pulse mig is like between the two gases.

@Mike-lt6sj 8 месяцев назад

Not spraying

@grege2383 3 года назад

Just curious, spray mig on thin material such as sheet metal?

@MikeP350 3 года назад

You'd blow straight through sheet metal with spray.

@jameskauffman8405 3 года назад

From a hobbiest stand can using spray transfer (82% argon be beneficial when limited to 110 input voltage

@sunrisetacticalgear29 3 года назад

No, because you won’t have enough voltage, which I believe is 24-25 volts minimum.

@Syltibob 3 года назад

Nice. 👍🏻

@geraldgenchur5133 3 года назад

Im new at mug welding but have been stuck welding for years and have been looking at the Miller 235 and just wonder what your thoughts are on the everlasting?

@geraldgenchur5133 3 года назад

I was asking his thoughts on welders. If you didn’t have anything to add then why did you reply

@everlastgenerator 3 года назад

If you're on FB join our group. There's lots of guys in there that can tell you all about our machines.

@everlastgenerator 3 года назад

@Wroger Wroger the gentleman didn't ask about specs. He asked for a testimonial. I gave him an area where he could get many. If he asked a technical question I would've been more than happy to answer.

@marklugo6002 3 года назад

@Wroger Wroger Obviously, you need to learn something about MIG/GMAW welding. Wire speed and Amp control are the same exact adjustment. The wire speed and diameter/type of wire determine the amperage delivered to the weld. If you were a true MIG welder, you'd know this. You cannot have separate controls for wire speed and amperage. They can be measured and expressed differently, but it is the same exact control. Everlast, incidentally has several basic MIGs and has for many years. But if you were more than a drive by poster, you'd know this. This MIG answers a need in the auto industry for welding on newer and more exotic forms of Aluminum that are being used. It also has a setting for MIG brazing for high carbon steels. If you knew what you were talking about, you'd have said nothing. It was demoed with steel, but shines really with aluminum.

@marklugo6002 3 года назад

@Wroger Wroger LOL. Don't even know the basics about welding, or what the controls do and you are building your own machines? And you are trolling Everlast?

@stefanvalchev8066 3 года назад

7:51 you see that the T join is not perpendicular.The first weld pull the other piece to it and open a gap for the second weld.I don't belive this test was very nice

@melgross 3 года назад

Unfortunately, I can only get 80 cu ft tanks because of no delivery to a residential area, and, well, that’s what fits in the car. So it’s argon and ar/Co2 75/25. They won’t fill anything else in that size tank. So what are the best options for 3/8 to 1/2? Multi pass of course, but stick isn’t really my thing.

@donsmith9081 Месяц назад

Crank up MIG and try out Globular.

@melgross Месяц назад

@@donsmith9081 nah, globular isn’t the best way.

@donsmith9081 Месяц назад

@@melgross I did not say it was the Best way. He is unable to get his small tank filled with the right gas to try spray. However, after seeing the cut and etch of Globular and Spray, I was surprised to see how close penetration was.

@masonmedina7539 2 месяца назад

I still don’t really understand the difference between spray and pulse?

@rvalcourtpersonaca 3 года назад

I would like to see a video something like this one where I can’t go to specialized equipment. I am what you would call a bit more than a hobby welder. I work out of a small garage. At my age 70 it would be stupid to go buy some specialized equipment. I weld with a Lincoln 210 MP. Now for this particular application I would tack one side, back gouge the joint and weld it up, then back gouge the other side and weld it up. This would give me a full penetration joint. What’s you’re opinion? In my opinion this would allow me to properly do the job without investing in new equipment and using what I already have.

@hodgepodgeenginerd1258 3 года назад

Kinda depends on how much time your spending with extra prep work compared to what is needed with the special equipment.

@timothyrouse2853 3 года назад

What you doing is fine ? Or of one edge just grind 45 degree before welding , do a root run then a top run ?

@jacobk9920 3 года назад

Can you use tig without gas and a filler rod?

@ShainAndrews 3 года назад

I'd like you to think about your question and come back with theories to support why it will and why it will not work.

@NemesisRTCW 3 года назад

Without filler rod yes, without argon or helium gas No

@ShainAndrews 3 года назад

@@NemesisRTCW Teach a kid to think and he learns for a lifetime...

@asherdie 3 года назад

Try with a stick welding rod.

@xanderfuchsbichler3206 3 года назад

Could you guys please do some videos on multi pass fillet welds. Vertical up and vertical down, short circuit transfer with er70s6 75/25 on some 12mm steel (1/2”) I would greatly appreciate it guys

@fegolem 3 года назад

Audio cut out 1:57 to 2:08.

@MrCool1002 3 года назад

Would be intereresting to compare the Pulse Process to normal Spray Process in a Horizontal Position, with a cut and etch! Good Content as always!

@jaysmith4293 3 года назад

Question on mixing gas. To avoid buying a third tank-can I mix my 100% argon with my 75/25 to make the equivalent of 90/10? What type of valve would I need and what would pressure settings be ? Might make a good episode if it hasn't already been addressed in previous videos.

@lorenwegele7517 3 года назад

👍👍

@danielborgstrom4392 3 года назад

@3:30 Well, i find spray to be real smooth for overhead fillet's (PD/4F), give it a try, just adjust your angle.

@grantoneil1385 3 года назад

Ok so I run pluse might on a Lincoln 360 mp and by the way its sounding your not doing it right at all. You are supposed to run in a stringer like method and gotta have a steady hand. I'm not sure how I can post a picture or a video of me performing the pluse mig metal transfer but if you give me an email I will email you them

@darrensamuels1511 3 года назад

When I went to trade school we always had to do a root run for the vertical up weld. A good welder should be able to set the welder to out perform the pulse welding process.

@kevinhornbuckle 3 года назад

Are you in Florida?

@GeoffPesos 3 года назад

You've proven that just because a weld looks good it does not mean it has penetrated. Can you guys do a video to see if an ugly weld will still pass?

@grantoneil1385 3 года назад

And 90 10 gas performs alot better

@honkmeer389 3 года назад

So you Guys Weld Steel with MIG(inert Gas)? Interesting. We Weld Steel MAG active Gas 82 Argon 18 co2

@AdrianPardini 3 года назад

"And burn again". I always have that resolution but most of the time I can't make it

@grayem76 3 года назад

I understand you are professional but I'm a hobbyist and I really can't afford to change gas rental bottles for each project

@ypaulbrown 3 года назад

Some suppliers will let you have cylinder for free for 30 days. Then charge rental monthly after that....

@ShainAndrews 3 года назад

Then you select a process that meets 80% of your needs. How often you weld thicker than 5/16"?

@bruced1429 3 года назад

try some dual shield flux core , you can use 75/25 or even 100% CO2 . 035 wire will do most jobs to 3/8 in (1/2 in with 045) and there is little smoke as compared to self shielded flux core and with the dual shield you can weld in any postition to max the metal size you do need at least a 200 amp welder

@apenza4304 3 года назад

2nd, but a 3rd class welder.

@AnitaStellium 3 месяца назад

Im having a hard time knowing the difference. I only hear a difference.

@bonerDB 3 года назад

The circut weld was been terrible.

@evgeniikorolev5167 3 года назад

thnx for video🙏 Hi from Russia🇷🇺🤝

@anilramlogan8737 3 года назад

wait, who is this guy is he new?

@Syltibob 3 года назад

He's the original gangsta. But the youtube-fame and money has him spending all his time on his yacht with a bunch of hoes. That's why we rarely see him.

@anilramlogan8737 3 года назад

Lol I was just kidding.. First time I've seen him since he cut his beard.

@anilramlogan8737 3 года назад

@Wroger Wroger lol I always wondered if it wasn't a fire hazard 😅