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PUNCH OR DRILL? - HOLE SAW -VS - MILWAUKEE M18 KNOCKOUT TOOL 

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@efixx
@efixx 3 года назад
Mandrex hole saws used in this video👉 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-aoxPi-BQ7kQ.html Check out the full Milwaukee Knockout tool review 📺 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-0UUQx8GhWpM.html
@FirstDan2000
@FirstDan2000 3 года назад
The clear winner is the cooling gel. I'll get some of that.
@Cablesmith
@Cablesmith 3 года назад
I think the punch is way beyond the needs for most electricians, more suited to manufacture of panels and the likes.
@kangtheconqueror
@kangtheconqueror 3 года назад
Agreed.
@anne_frank_
@anne_frank_ 3 года назад
It's a tool I'd love to use for just that but I can't find a 22mm option, which is what's used on 90% of parts, especially schneider push buttons and pilot lights.
@efixx
@efixx 3 года назад
You can get an M22 hole punch for this, but push buttons are actually 22.5mm (PG16) - www.amazon.co.uk/Exact-30506-22-5mm-Screw-Hole-Punch/dp/B00BY2QX6S We'll explore if we can use non-wilwonky punches. It would also be good to cut square holes for 96x96 instruments in panels etc.
@anne_frank_
@anne_frank_ 3 года назад
@@efixx Sweet, thanks for the reply!
@filipe.skunk8
@filipe.skunk8 3 года назад
@@efixx Rittal does a 92x92mm square punch.. costs £1000 🤯
@havaden96
@havaden96 3 года назад
I used to work in a small workshop for building different electrical cabinets. We used a hydraulic punch that was a real hazzle to work with but made much cleaner and much more accurate holes. Also you can punch square holes or other shapes for certain uses like a vent. I could see the battery driven punch very useful in that case, hole saws are also awfully messy if you have to drill 20 holes in the bottom of a cabinet. Sharp burrs everywhere and you risk scratching the paint if a single one of those burrs are left on the bench. Now say you got to build 20 of theese and you do all the drilling at once. For the average electrician? Obviously the punch would be overkill, but id get it in notime for the workshop.
@tommymack3210
@tommymack3210 3 года назад
What is the point of the milwaukee tool when you need to make a 20mm hole to make a 32mm hole?
@imtruegeordiesballscratche9261
@imtruegeordiesballscratche9261 3 года назад
It’s to stop the burr that your just gonna cover with a gland or grommet anyway it’s basically a 12hundred pound file
@geneva760
@geneva760 2 года назад
Cleaner end hole would be one major difference.
@hk.l4886
@hk.l4886 3 года назад
I can’t ever seeing myself needing the punch out tool. Holesaws is where it is.
@thattoolguy9432
@thattoolguy9432 3 года назад
Holesaws and a metalworkers deburring tool all day every day for glanding .. punches for panel work, just get individual punches and a socket on the end of a impact driver,. works a treat and its a tool most of us have already got .As you probably know from your recent trip to penn elcom.. most patch bay holes are either 24mm or 31mm so that makes the milwonky defunkt .. Gaz for the win on this one
@pauljones908
@pauljones908 3 года назад
Got the punch and it makes short work for enlarging gland holes or installing any glands from 32mm - 75mm. Great on stainless to 😁👍
@trrbocknyader
@trrbocknyader 2 года назад
Knock outs are meant for bigger stuff like 1.5" and up , Use a carbide hole cutter for the initial drilling and it's much faster.
@iggifer
@iggifer 3 года назад
Armeg Acceler8 or other sheet steel holesaws are going win this race hands down. I didn't understand the fuss until I used them. Faster than standard hole saws and the hole is clean and crisp every time. I haven't used a traditional holesaw to drill anything smaller than a 40mm since I bought them
@efixx
@efixx 3 года назад
We’ll check them out
@dennisphoenix1
@dennisphoenix1 3 года назад
I have the 20 and 25mm armeg hole saws and they are great , if they made 32 , 40 and 50mm in the same style it would be great
@iggifer
@iggifer 3 года назад
@@dennisphoenix1 They do some of those sizes. I have 32,38 & 40. Not sure if they go any bigger than that though
@dennisphoenix1
@dennisphoenix1 3 года назад
@@iggifer the 40mm would be great for tail glands
@StorminBriski
@StorminBriski 3 года назад
I think the hole punch makes a neat job. I’ve always used hole saws and a de-burring tool. I think the punch may be better for stainless steel as this is a pain to hole saw through. Can’t see me ever paying for the punch though.
@boblewis5558
@boblewis5558 3 года назад
Punch every time if possible. I have a set of Qmax cutters from 45 plus years ago
@allysonhanks7367
@allysonhanks7367 3 года назад
Hello Bob, how are you doing. I hope you are safe and in good health. Looking for a new friend and i saw your pic here. I hope you don't mind thank you.
@brianwood5220
@brianwood5220 3 года назад
Gary, that's a hole in one at a very reasonable price. As for Gordon, it's a bit like knitting drill one, stamp one.
@efixx
@efixx 3 года назад
But I won the REVIEW🤣… 🤦🏻‍♂️…
@allysonhanks7367
@allysonhanks7367 3 года назад
Hello Brian, how are you doing. I hope you are safe and in good health. Looking for a new friend and i saw your pic here. I hope you don't mind thank you.
@sidwainhouse
@sidwainhouse 3 года назад
I'll stick with my QMax cutters and a ratchet.
@boblewis5558
@boblewis5558 3 года назад
Use a decent battery drill on high torque ... Works great on ali!
@mrclive5
@mrclive5 3 года назад
Nice idea, but you're then carrying two tools to do one job. Or just stick with hole saws? The punch would be perfect for areas that're sensitive to vibration, debris etc.
@boblewis5558
@boblewis5558 3 года назад
You still have to drill a pilot hole though, so still vibration and debris. It's just the final finish is better and IMO easier to deburr with a Noga.
@keanMechanic
@keanMechanic 3 года назад
There’s is a another alternative hole punch method, QMax cutters and a impact gun.
@muzikman2008
@muzikman2008 3 года назад
What we really need is a hand held auto laser cutter, type in the hole size, material type & thickness, line a laser dot up with the centre, pull the trigger and hey presto.. no lubricant, clean hole, less mess and waste.who will be first? lol. Hole punches are nicer finishes, but time consuming. Iv'e cut thousands of holes over the years. Stainless, steel, brass, wood, and the good all rounder seems to be the basic hole saw.😎👍
@haldo691
@haldo691 3 года назад
Impact holesaws are the quickest and don't leave toobad a finish before deburing
@michealplater9007
@michealplater9007 3 года назад
Where possible I driil from both side of the hole using a hole saw it gives a much cleaner cut
@paultipton743
@paultipton743 3 года назад
The real star of the show was the cooling gel
@efixx
@efixx 3 года назад
The gel is cool 😎
@drpantastic1969
@drpantastic1969 3 года назад
Would love to see the first reviews of battery drills and drills in general as this simple device is a game changer
@kenbrown2808
@kenbrown2808 3 года назад
I use a P&R cutter to make my pilot holes; which I keep in my hole punch case, and I really mainly bought it for the larger punches. but it makes nice clean holes, I don't break pilot bits, and I don't spew as many hot shavings about. for me, the punch kit was well worth the price.
@gregmcallister4862
@gregmcallister4862 Год назад
Hole saw kit for me, cooling gel , slow speed…come on!!!😂😂😂
@serhioromano
@serhioromano 2 года назад
I cannot get it, why did you not include time to predrill a hole for punch down? He was punching using premade holes. Remember in order to punch you still have to drill a hole first.
@acespark1
@acespark1 3 года назад
You would have to sell a body part to buy the milwaukee force logic hole punch
@shaneporter4958
@shaneporter4958 3 года назад
I criticised this product on FB and the Americans weren't happy. Turns out they think holesaws in panel boards are a major no no.
@martinjp1
@martinjp1 3 года назад
No Sparks going to buy the Milwuakee most will just use a cheap Screwfix or Toolstation holesaw set jobbie then de-burr.
@darylsavage119
@darylsavage119 3 года назад
Depends what you do. Done lots of work on live 600a busbar chambers where you certainly pucker when using a holesaw due to the sparks. The Milwaukee is defo a better tool in that situation, but then hell I'm paying for one. The force logic cable cutter and crimper tho I may look into
@jarodneedham7326
@jarodneedham7326 2 года назад
Modern hole cutters are designed for high speed, high pressure. You actually do yourself a disservice by going slower in mild steel.
@ElectricianTV
@ElectricianTV 3 года назад
The Mandrex Hole saw is a great idea but the arbour is too big. They are sold in my wholesalers but they look far to big and Obscure your view whilst drilling. ANd limit the place you can fit the drill. What your option on that?
@efixx
@efixx 3 года назад
You can use the Mandrex adaptors with your existing hole saws -eg convert a Starret to use with the Mandrex arbour. So you can always swap back if you are tight for room.
@alinili5569
@alinili5569 3 года назад
I won the review I like that punch hole it’s way beyond day to day works Even replace the hole saw regularly
@mattylad8035
@mattylad8035 3 года назад
Holesaws are very rough, a punched hole is far better - however only when it's cost is not exhorbitant.
@gottliebdee263
@gottliebdee263 4 месяца назад
It's funny watching these guys using cutting fluid. I regularly work on construction sites and I have NEVER, EVER seen anybody is this. Not even once., Now, full disclosure for the most part I didn't either, but I do now.
@johnxenofontos1058
@johnxenofontos1058 3 года назад
What are hole punch sizes comes in the kit.
@efixx
@efixx 3 года назад
M16,20,25,32,40
@johnxenofontos1058
@johnxenofontos1058 3 года назад
@@efixx Thank you.
@anelectrician
@anelectrician 3 года назад
I can't see myself moving away from the Bosch click hole cutter.
@hacheyg
@hacheyg Месяц назад
Carbide holesaw is the way to go
@geneva760
@geneva760 2 года назад
A cleaner initial hole would be one major difference ('WINNER' for many users) - although the actual application could probably be a decider as well. And keeping a spinning hole saw blade out of the hands of staff can sometimes be an additional safety bonus. A mate has a near crippled hand from a bit of 'brain fade' whilst using a hole saw - it instantly cut the muscle near clean off his hand when he hit the trigger on the cordless drill with a hole saw blade in it = crippled hand (I think many of us are also a bit complacent when it comes to a battery powered tool - for some reason they often seem less dangerous - sort of 'toy like' - other than no risk of electrocution for m a battery powered tool - they can be just as dangerous as a 240V plugged in version - if not more when it comes to other injuries). Safety can sometimes be the 'WINNER'. Yes - we all know that you are not meant to have your hand near a spinning hole saw blades - but we also know that you are not meant to do all sorts of dangerous things (and as at 4:43 am today - if I was standing outside my place - someone doing something they were not meant to be doing - would have turned me into mince meat - instead he just demolished a steel pylon wall and portico pillar - luckily the steel structures stopped the vehicle from ending up in the bedrooms - thankfully nobody was injured) - but still - people do things that end up in injury or death. Have a safe and nice day all - CHEERS from AUSTRALIA.
@thetruth6693
@thetruth6693 3 года назад
If Gary was another 5 mins cleaning those holes Gordon then he still would've won 😝
@efixx
@efixx 3 года назад
100% GAZ WON 🙌🏻
@efixx
@efixx 3 года назад
But Gaz never cleans 🧼 up
@thetruth6693
@thetruth6693 3 года назад
😂😝
@Dog-whisperer7494
@Dog-whisperer7494 3 года назад
Gordons Millwonky,seven components to put together to make a hole then take apart to clean out the bits? Gaz three components ,a drill bit a hole saw and a combidrill to make a hole . I have made my choice
@dae8864
@dae8864 3 года назад
You allways need a grommet/egdebanding to protect your wires, and in the end yourself.
@KnugenMooMoo
@KnugenMooMoo 3 года назад
What if say the trunking fitted to the wall and you can't get the milwaukee punch backing in? You'll have to get the holesaw out
@stevoc9930
@stevoc9930 3 года назад
I must say I'm a man who loves a good hole.
@9plusinstalaciones
@9plusinstalaciones 3 года назад
Did you go back in again Gaz?
@JimWhitaker
@JimWhitaker 3 года назад
So - A Q-Max punch with an impact driver?
@THECRYPTOKAAKH
@THECRYPTOKAAKH 3 года назад
Nice
@dimitrakisaimegia3852
@dimitrakisaimegia3852 3 года назад
Keep the drill at low speed.
@hamburbers
@hamburbers 2 года назад
Quick connect holesaw systems are great until you try to use them for anything where the arbor needs to also pass through the whole for example drilling through a wall with an extension. This mandrex is a one trick pony as much as the hole punch is. If that's the comparison, I've already got an electrician set of carbide hole cutters that work phenomenally.
@davewesley5048
@davewesley5048 3 года назад
I would normally use a hole saw good price and fair job or a qmax cutter with impact driver neither take up too much room and are light
@blobstrom
@blobstrom 3 года назад
Because you have to drill a hole to use the hole punch, you might as well use a hole saw to start with
@Dog-whisperer7494
@Dog-whisperer7494 3 года назад
Great video guy’s But please send that millwonky back to the Americans and demand refund. Sorry but you just can’t beet the good old hole saw. Gaz you have just proved that 👍❤️⚡️
@efixx
@efixx 3 года назад
GO GAZ GO 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿
@kenbrown2808
@kenbrown2808 3 года назад
yeah, I thought that about 30 holesaws ago. but you can only cut 3 or 4 stainless steel cans with a holesaw before it loses its edge. and the manufacturer stopped sending the cans with knockouts.
@niceguy235uk1
@niceguy235uk1 3 года назад
Much prefer the Armeg Acceler8% hole saws
@bighorse10048
@bighorse10048 3 года назад
All that was going though my mind watching you do this was you kids don't know your born. when i started back in the 1960s it was with a Standly hand drill and hole Exnox cutter. Great fun not.
@scott4shell
@scott4shell 3 года назад
It’s all about the price point what is the Milwaukee retailing at
@efixx
@efixx 3 года назад
Around £1000
@alinili5569
@alinili5569 3 года назад
I m sure Gary your hole saw or pilot drill bit it’s not sharp. We do it every day and don’t take that long
@posei3960
@posei3960 3 года назад
So the punch isn't as accurate? , if it was then surely ALL the punched out slugs would resemble washers and NOT C shaped gobbitts.? Or off-centre washers?
@somedude5174
@somedude5174 3 года назад
You have to lay out big crosshairs on the trough then line up the red lines on the punch with them
@andrewtadd4373
@andrewtadd4373 3 года назад
A lot of the punch tool use a slug breaker which cuts the slug in half as you are punching the hole out, makes it a hell of a lot easier to remove the slug especially on the smaller holes.
@kenbrown2808
@kenbrown2808 3 года назад
the punch is designed to split the slug in half so it doesn't wedge in the die. the larger punches will fold the slug. that red stripe on the die is so you can draw a crosshair on your material and then line the die up on the crosshair, even if your pilot bit wanders a bit on your starter hole.
@cuezed
@cuezed 3 года назад
Holesaw is better. The hole punch seems overkill kit for electricians
@oliverburroughs1816
@oliverburroughs1816 3 года назад
Hello
@bikerjon153
@bikerjon153 3 года назад
Far too long winded. Hole saw any day.
@Dog-whisperer7494
@Dog-whisperer7494 3 года назад
That’s the perfect tool for those who like having there tools nicked or there vans broken into Then having a view day’s off work wile you wait for the insurance company to pay out . Good idea 👍 Great video guy’s as always . Nice tool though despite my negative comment just can’t understand why you would spend a load of money for something that is likely to get nicked . I think someone doesn’t like this comment .
@12000gp
@12000gp 3 года назад
You don’t have any power tools then?
@Dog-whisperer7494
@Dog-whisperer7494 3 года назад
@@12000gp no , some viewing scumbag nicked them all 😂
@kenbrown2808
@kenbrown2808 3 года назад
they can't run as fast with it as they can with a hole saw.
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