Punk: Born In The US, Thrived In The UK? | History of Punk | Amplified 

Punk was such a different approach to music that relied almost entirely on feeding off the energy of the listener instead of providing listening pleasure like just about everything before. It was a slap in the face to a complacent industry, and I love it for that.

The world wouldn't be the same without punk and the massive influence it has had on music and culture

I was a punk in 77. It was very satisfying to piss people off just because of the way you looked. Later on when in Iron Cross in DC it was the same. Oi was a great kind of music, street punk. It was a great time. I don’t think there will ever be another scene like it.

I graduated high school in 1978 and started collecting records about 1980. The first LP's I started with was Punk -- Ramones, The Clash, Sex Pistols, The Jam, Blondie (who were considered punk at first), X, Damned, Germs, Buzzcocks, etc. From there I broadened my horizons, of course, and started accumulating classic 50's, 60's Rock, Blues, Folk, Jazz and more. Then New Wave exploded, and I started getting into alternative and synth music of the 80's, all great. But my first love was late 70's Punk, which I still listen to today. There's something nostalgic about it now, but the music is still vital to my ears.

That was Shane from the pogues at the start😂what a fantastic songwriter he was, despite his addiction to alcohol, he wrote some incredibly beautiful and sad songs👏♥️🍻

"Mike Hunt's Honorable Discharge" - Now THAT'S a great name for a punk band. LMFAO 😂

Shane McGowan (The Pogues, Fairy-tale of New York) at the beginning wearing the Union Jack, jacket.

Started listening to music in 1976 at 16 and this was what I got into. Still listen to tons of it too. Awesome.

It would be nice if something like this happened now. I think 20, 25 years of pop and rap as the dominant form of music in our culture is more than long enough

In the US, many guitarists talk about seeing the Beatles on Sullivan, which was equalled by the Pistols at Manchester in '76, and what an incredible momentum that certain gig created, for punk, into New Wave and beyond.

I used to listen to pink floyd and elp. Then Punk hit in the 70s. Haircut. My Mum said I looked like a convict (I am). Happiest years ever.

Shane McGowan in the opening was epic...

Best time in my life. Music terrific and the clothing was so cool. Happy times apart from the Thatcher years

Aussie punk band The Saints started in 1973 ,a year before the Ramones and about 3 years before the Sex Pistols .

Vivienne Westwood- 🟥 Juggernaut of British Culture 🟥 REST IN PEACE. 🌿1941- 2022🌿

Musically punk was born in Australia with the Saints. Hear their 1974 recordings..

Its an awesome doco, had it for years. A must see!

Where's the rest of this documentary? I love it!

The Saints 1976 "I'm Stranded" Aussie Punk. ✌️🤘🏴🇦🇺

It was in Canada too, my dad used to take my brothers and I along Younge Street in Toronto in the '70's, you could hear crazy music from around back, I was too young to understand, but I learned years later it was punk in small bars.

I need the full documentary please💕

the reason why punk is so often thought of as british by some people is because the u.k. is nice and tiny and so youth movements can flourish and spread there in a way that was utterly impossible in late 70's USA. plus that it was the first place that the music and the fashion received mainstream press whereas it was mostly ignored in the states until well in to the late 80's. in the end, though, like heavy metal i really don't think of 'punk' as being either american or british but rather a series of influences at different times in different places in different ways that would ultimately make it what it became.

American Punk and British Punk were different. British Punk was definitely more political given what was going on in England during that time. American Punk was more of a musical reaction to the over production that was occurring in the American rock scene at the time as well as the conformity of rock culture. Was there overlap? Of course there was but there were primary trends in the music as well.

The DAMNED are the GREATEST punk band of all-time. Their albums spread out from the confines of the early punk sound and only got better for it. I think Machine Gun Ettiquite is just untouchable. The songwriting began to hint at just how great Dave and the Captain's composition skills are and then they proved it with Strawberries, The Black Album, and Phantasmagoria. All of this is to say nothing of the fact they've stayed in the trenches still touring decades after their contemporaries gave up. They DESERVE statues in their honor outside the Fairfield Hall in Croyden where Captain used to clean the toilets. They've been a way of life for me since I was a teenager who owned over 180 different Damned vinyls: every foreign pressing, every color vinyl available, and every rare bootleg. They were the funnest band to collect by far.

The Ramones are my favorite!

One of the best things about these documentaries is that kiss never existed ,or disco the daydream of it warms my heart

The Damned is the best 🖤🖤🖤

You really need to add in 'The Saints' that formed in Brisbane Australia in 1973 when talking about the birthplace of punk. Their demo tapes were sent around the world and their sound was copied by many.

My pops was in a band with Kirsty McCall called the drug addix 77-79

If you follow legs McNeils train of thought then Australia is in the running for inventing punk with The Saints who formed in the early-mid '70s like the Ramones, their debut 45, a major plus is that 'I'm stranded' is also a record that the sun will always shine on.

I remember bands like crass,discharge, dead Kennedys getting records in the national charts in uk.

Why put a part of the documentary here while the full documentary is on RU-vid too ?

I haven't seen this said elsewhere, but the "punk rock" phenomenon owes it's name to Legs McNeil, the guy at the beginning here who says his mother told him "punk started in England." The music scene forming at CBGB and Max's Kansas City in New York City was first called the "NY Underground Rock" scene. Then, John Holmstrom came out with a magazine covering that scene. In devising a name for the magazine, Legs McNeil, Holmstrom's friend, suggested calling the magazine "PUNK." Because the magazine was writing about the new bands, particularly the Ramones, the term "punk" became a simple name to attach to the entire scene happening at CBGB/Max's Kansas City. There were other bands in other cities developing in the US who would later be seen as having similar goals and influences as many of the NYC bands, and so "punk" was applied to those bands and those scenes as well. So, "punk," so-called, was without question born in the US, and, particularly, in New York City.

There is an American band called The Punks and they were playing punk in 1973.

I realised years ago that it doesn't matter where punk started because the time difference was just months apart by maybe a year at the very most, and the three earliest countries all had different approaches towards what would become known as punk, Australia like the USA wasn't so much into the visual aspect whereas the with UK version the look was initially just as important for impact, the USA version had people who were older than the UK and Australia bands. The Australian version was generally nearer to the UK version than the more muso USA bands. But really it doesn't matter what country started it, so the Ramones started a few months before the Sex Pistols, who cares? Who SHOULD care? No one because it's irrelevant. Plus lots of the American bands still looked like Hippies until they realised that they could sell more records in the UK than they ever could back home in the USA, that made them cut their hair and ditch the flares!

I sure would like to know why the misfits weren’t even mentioned in any of the episodes, in my opinion they are one of most influential bands of the late 70’s early 80’s

You know that is Shane MacGowan in the union jack jacket, right?

UK bands are freaking 🔥 they took the rebellion and turned it into a wild fire

The opening shot is of Shane McGowan of the Pogues.

Was chatting to Glen Matlock on Tues eve … his band was on at new venue in Denmark St W1 : The Lower Third his band played…. This doc must be at least 15 years old?

Siouxsie still looks beautiful🥰

what a time to grow up in, i maybe old and fucked now, but its only on the outside,in my heart i still want to rip it dolwn and start again,

Is the woman speaking at 6:15 Caroline Coon?

It doesn't matter what city punk started in, it happened in 74/75/76 in the USA, UK and Australia.

Love the strapped pants

We were Americans, my dad was in the Airforce and our family got stationed in England in 1977-i was 10 yrs old and remember all of this!!! The military families and men loved to take trips to London just to look at the punks!!!

I think Chrissie Hynde meant Steve Jones at the end, there.........

"Born in the US, thrived in the UK", that describes most of the music that's dominated the world for the last 100 years. Music constantly travels back and forth between the two giants of the English diaspora and just gets better for the journey.

Punk began Right and always will be.

The thing is punk came from bands like the stooges and then transcended to the ramones, but what was happening in Britain at the time perfectly captured what the youth had to do monarchy, thatcher, the economy etc and they adopted punk

Punk was not born exclusively in the US and thrived in the UK. In France, as early as 1972, there was a small subculture of hip folks who liked to dress in black and were into Lou Reed and heroin, who called themselves Punk. In Italy, in 1973-74, certain local singers-songwriters with a definite attitude and musically more rock than their peers (like Edoardo Bennato) got called "Punk" by the press. In Australia, bands like The Saints and Radio Birdman, roped in the Punk movement but never considered themselves as such, started out in roundabout 1973-74. And all this without even considering all the 1960s outfits around the world, who, bearers of a wild sound, got dubbed posthumously Punk (like Los Saicos from Peru). The term has been coined without a doubt in the US and appeared for the first time in the monthly music magazine Creem in 1969 when talking about those mid-1960s bands who, inspired by the British invasion, developed a raw and hard sound and had one or two regional hits before fading into obscurity (like Chocolate Watchband, the Sonics, Count 5, the Music Machine, etc.). I a process of synergy and unbeknownst to each other, is seems that the word was picked up at the same time by many movements in different countries. So to give paternity to one sole country is incorrect and short-sighted.....

More billshut about punk history! Like they were on the internet all day comparing musical notes between the U.S. & crappy England under Thatcher. Remember, AC/DC were considered punks when they lobbed into town - as if they had no idea in another hemisphere or country.

Why would you do a story about punk and not include The Saints?

I wish more docs would explain why the pistols went off on TV...that garbage presenter said some stuff to the girls there that deserved a telling off. Punk isn't just about shocking people...it's about common sense and not being a garbage person. Seriously, there's no punk without logical people getting pissed off at the illogical ruling class.

Many punks in their late 60s now.

British Oi! And American Hardcore saved Punk and gave it the kick in the butt it needed.

Wow

I went to school with a dude named Mike Hunt. We never got the humor in it.

Rave was also born in the US and thrived in the UK ❤️

Packed a lot into 18mins. A good documentary.

When "I'm stranded"- The Saints September 1976 came out, Malcolm McLaren heard it and started to take interest in the Punk seen he soon got the Pistols and others who were already around in the studio. That was the beginning of PUNK.

likeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.. amazing

Talking about Vivian Westwood and I can't remember his name. + Does nobody think Paula Edwards and Bob Geldoff are worth a mention?

Just CoooOL,and Out ta da Rage Us,nah! CRANK IT UP!Jcs

sure would be nice to know the names of the people who are talking, some of them are pretty deep historical figures and you miss a lot without the context of knowing how they are

Some of my favorite bands are uk punk, but… Punk in the UK = there’s still a monarchy.

As much as the UK punk bands derided pub rock, many of them descended from that form of DIY music as they did anything being done at the same time in the US. The term 'punk' may be an American word but the underground movement it was to subsequently be labelled was by no means a strictly American invention. If you don't believe me ask John Lydon.

Punk needed an image and vivienne and malcolm were instrumental

I always thought Legs McNeil was a dork . The clue is in his name for a start .

The winter of discontent and the garbage strikes were after the first wave of UK punk.

Less about what that drug does to people and more about what hanging around with Thunders and Nolan can do to people.

No mention of Ian rubbish and the bizarros?

I'm an American and I love the Ramones, Heartbreakers and the Stooges and tons more, but I think that the Sex Pistols nmtb is the best punk lp ever. I prefer the stuff across the pond! It may have started here, but English bands were better. The Pistols went after the dawn parliament 😢😂 Their album changed rock n roll for good!

I wish i did hear some better songs of the punk genre

The velvet underground were the original punk prototype band and in school in the late seventies uk punk scene pistols stranglers jam x ray spex 999 buzzcockz subway Sect were the best most well known

UK band "Dr Feelgood" were the original punks, predating the Ramones by 3 years. Also on another, but similar note, white English kids were (what can be described as "breakdancing") in clubs like the Wigan Casino, the Torch in Stoke, and Manchester's, Twisted Wheel, over a decade before Black American Kids took to the streets of New York or LA.

This "what country invented punk?" Question is ridiculous, Chaucer's 'Canterbury tales' has many situations and people we would recognise today and call punks and the way it's written has a punk attitude towards to dumbness of life. So, according to 'the question' Chaucer was an early Proto-Punk, meaning it got its real start in England.

Watching from Greece.hi everybody. Great video. PUNKS NOT DEAD.

Does anyone know, the song around 2:16?

My life can end if Lydon is knighted. I will have seen everything.

I like very much all the music from the US punk but all these bands were a niche , seen by a small group of people. What the Sex pistols have done to punk they gave it social and politics issues that moved a generation felt doomed. The punk phenomenon raised in Uk and spread all around the world and changed it.

Nobody can name 4 songs of the clash.😂

Im sure yall know, but that doosh jumpin round in the flag suit at start was guna go on and help create a fkn gr8 band! Its sad that it took him so long to get sorted... genius!

11:24 can someone please tell me this song I can’t find it anywhere

Where are the punks today standing up for freedom?

Abit weird ending?

Fantastica. Gracias a Dios por El amor, merced, proteccion, y creaciones y gracias a Dios todo los dias mala o bueno y vayan con Dios a todos y yo en el sangre y nombre de Cristo Jesus Rey de reys amen Amazing. Thank God for His love, mercy, protection, and creations and thank God during the highs and lows and God bless you and all of us in Jesus Christ’s King of all kings blood that was shed and name we declare and name we pray amen 😊

Hey John Cooper Clarke… I know a great dentist!

Note how the majority of band members looked like reasonably respectable everyday people, clothes, haircuts etc. Whereas the """hardcore""" punks out on the Kings etc tried so so hard to look like something out of a technicolour version of Mad Max and spending large sums of money in the process.

Sad to see Paul Simonon is rapidly going bald,he used to look so great.😅

Guns of Brixton ! Pete Shelley RIP 🌹♥️!!!!

Brit Punk Rock 70's Forever. Sex Pistols the King's of World Punx

The pistols and the Clash's debuts are the benchmark, followed by the Ramones and the buzzcocks debuts. Anarchy in the UK is the anthem for every generation of UK teenagers.🍻♥️

Ironic that Shane was wearing a Union Jack blazer yet regretted not taking an active role in the IRA....

Rubbish! Total missed the most iconic moment of PUNK history ever the first punk song every released paving the way for the Brit bands, September 1976 The Saints from Australia "I'm stranded".

It's really simple.... Punk only had 2 real 'generations'. 77'- 87'- the originators, founders, the first wave. Started by the Ramones, and other underground acts throughout NYC and LA respectively. Devo brought about the new waveish sounds to punk and it flourished. Even Goth type bands had their moments with the founding fathers of the punk scene. They went toe to toe with pop rock and disco. In some ways it was the first wave of punk that did away with disco altogether. Heavy metal was a non factor to the scene during this era. But punk's new wave sounds went mainstream more and more. 'New wave' was the music industry's copy cat scene and it reduced punk's influence to fashion. Acts such as Joan Jett popularized the aesthetic. This gave way to the more street level and rougher 'Crossover generation' of hardcore punk circa 86'-91'. The Crossover generation brought the scene back underground, introduced 'sport' (Skateboarding/BMX/Dirt bike) and went up against pop rock, Glam metal and the emerging College-underground. 'Grunge' became the mainstreams copycat scene and an entire industry was built on top of it much to the detriment of the Seattle underground. (Seattle kids loathed it) During Grunge's popularity, the American hardcore punk scene ceased to thrive. And along came the internet into everyone's home There wouldn't be a 'third generation' of the underground.

don't forget The Saints ... Brisbane , Australia

I wish they mentioned the vibrators.

Yeah, a lot of people are under the impression that punk started in Britain, partly due to all the publicity surrounding the Sex Pistols and partly due to Lydon's big ego mouth, giving many interviews where he said the Pistols started punk. The very first pure punk (not proto punk) LP was the Ramones debut in April 1976. If you to youtube there is a clip from 1974!! showing the Ramones playing punk at CBGB's. Many people might not know that in 1974, The Saints in Australia were also playing punk.

So-w Woht