The worst part about the Sharks game too...is their ONE goal was such obvious goaltender interference that even it shouldnt have counted. They didnt review it because... who reviews a goal against when you have already scored 10, theres no class in that, but if that is a closer game, that wont count.
@@BrotherAlpha with 7 mins left, I don't know I could easily see them trying to injure someone after or people like those in this podcast seeing that as insulting/classless. I personally wouldve preferred they did for Demko but i understand why Tocchet didnt.
Good on Tocchet for letting it go, interference or not. Demko still had a .968. And the Sharks had about the toughest schedule in the league leading up to the game. Blackwood and Kahkonen are up against it every game. I hope Blackwood beats the Pens or Flyers.
Crazy to see the Leafs did nothing last night. Compare that to the Lightning losing their minds on Morgan Rielly because they thought he touched Brayden Point as he was going into the boards.
It's hard to believe that the Leafs and Habs have identical records after this game. And Friedman declared the Canucks the best team in Canada today. Crazy. Bye-bye, Bertuzzi, and Reaves.
Not a Leaf fan, but, your 20 minute discussion about Liljegren's injury, what's the outcome? nothing? okay. How about a referee of same calibre up in the boxes overlooking close ups of "oopsies" and a delayed penalty called? maybe minutes later? is that the solution? because you guys have the luck of using slow motion/repeats, that referee is being blinded by Marchand's action in full speed, by Marchand's body.
the ENTIRE point of kampf in overtime is if the faceoff is lost kampf is the better player. him and marner are the pk, why waste matthews skating around and getting tired when hes chasing a puck? what offensive opportunities are missed because of this? none, he gets off as soon as posession. low hanging fruit to be mad about. everyone praised it when it started, because it was objectively better.
A team usually takes the identity of its star players. Unfortunately for the leafs their star players are soft and scared of any rough stuff. Look what happened last playoffs when Point went into the boards. It was Kucherov and Stamkos that immediately jumped in. Even when Draisaitl got chopped by Pietrangelo McDavid rushed in and did something. Go down the list. McKinnon, Crosby etc. They all aren't afraid to respond. Matthews, Marner, Nylander, Tavares, Rielly are all soft af.
Meh, Crosby and Malkin aren’t much responders. Yet they have three cups. That being said, Crosby is the kind of leader that can fire up his team and get them to respond. I don’t think Matthews or Tavares necessarily needs to be more physical, but if they won’t do it themselves they need to do a way better job of firing up guys like Reaves and Bertuzzi to be physical for the rest of the team.
Some guys are competitive regardless of the situation. When the Leafs and Wings played in the outdoor game in Toronto a while back, Roberts and Draper got into a fight in the legends game. They wanted to kill each other 😂
Great take on the leafs! Fun fact: Michael Andleur the person that bought and moved the Belleville Bulls to Hamilton now owns the Belleville Senators lol
It's not what Marchand thinks so much as what your injured teammate thinks, what the rest of your teammates think, what your fans think, what you think of yourself. Man, I've seen a lot of bad Leafs teams over the years but I have never been so suddenly sickened (except for maybe after the Knies injury vs Florida) and just done with a game like I was that night. In the heat of action, there are lots of variables that you can't control, but this is something every player on that team could have shown in any myriad of different ways - and they just didnt, absolute crickets besides some mild words from a bench ridden Reaves. It's a worrying trend to see these guys so ultra apathetic. Who would want to be on a team where your teammates couldnt give an eff about you or eachother? It's bad mojo, man.
Toughness starts from the top. Coach and star players down. Would domi or Reaves even be able to take a bad penalty defending a teammate without getting benched?
Justin Bourne is always incredibly insightful and eloquent. Not sure if it's possible because contracts or whatever, but he'd be an amazing guest to have on the podcast!
Once again, a single courtesy call to Dadonov's agent by the Vegas Golden Knights would have rectified all of this 'lost money' argument. Vegas treating their players like cattle caused this incident, not anything that Dorion held or withheld from the club.
High ankle probably 6-8 weeks depending on how bad. The AITF ligament is very important for stability of the distal tib fib joint Which is very important for ankle stability and ankle movement. Same with syndesmotic membrane tear
Outside of Boston the other 6 teams in the Atlantic are very close. The difference between last and second is 5 points. Easily the best and most competitive division in the NHL.
Steve hit the nail on the head at the end. Brown is getting fckd because someone told him to sign that deal, now that person works with the oilers. Yeah straight up greasefire there, insane
The only way to fix this team is to trade for some sandpaper. You aren't going to get a Konecny cheap. If I'm Toronto, I try to deal Marner for Konecny and Hart. If I'm Philly I consider it but I worry that Marner is going to pout and not be cooperative in Torts system.
You know, I feel like if Matthews just got in a scuffle or 2, he might realize that getting punched in the face sucks, but its not that bad lol. I feel like he forgets that he's a pretty big guy... just throw it a little bit. Take that punch in the face and laugh as you hit him back.... Nobody is asking him to be what Reavo was in his first 2 games, just get in somebody's face from time to time and let them know you're gunna do something about it...
3 leafs fans doing a podcast talking about the leafs, like they always do, and you’re pointing out that no one else is talking about it, probably because I dunno, it’s not about them, only thing pointless here is your comment
What if you were the guy who's ended up crashing into the boards? Would you still think that was an ok play? It was an attempt to injure another player and he succeeded. We've been all conditioned to accept that crap. It will cost that young player a lot of $$ down the road, he was just starting to play top 4 dman. Now that is set back a year. And you say it's ok.
@@ChilkoXX one I never said it was ok I just said it was being overblown it should have been a penalty at the very least and the leafs probably shoulda down something. But it’s also baised cause it’s Marchand if it were a rookie who did it would you be as mad probably not
6:00 ... Marchand isn't a tough guy. He doesn't back down, because he knows the league will protect him. He can be as dirty as he wants to be and if anyone tries to fight back, they will be punished and he won't.
8 suspensions, is too few. Him and Pronger had what 7 suspensions. Both dirty shitters. Don't defend him, He leads the league in suspensions for a reason dumb shyte.
@@cardsnbargains1873 A couple of years ago, he was suspended for slew-footing OEL while playing against the Canucks. I didn't see the game, so I tried to look up the slew-foot on RU-vid and found the clip. Except the jersey's were wrong. ... Because it was a clip of Marchand slew-footing OEL when OEL still played for the Coyotes. Not only was this not the first time he did this. This wasn't even the same time he did the same offence to the same player. The fucker is dirty. If he wasn't protected by the NHL, he would have been kicked out permanently by now. And if you try and go after him in game, then forget about it. The refs will hit you hard.
I’m not a leafs or bruins fan, and I don’t know if it’s just because I’m getting older and don’t find the same content entertaining, but I swear Steve has gotten a lot harder to enjoy watching. And I truly do enjoy the podcast. I watched the LFR and the bruins segment of the podcast and I just don’t get it. Steve saying things like “if you don’t agree with my assessment of a play then you are an idiot and I won’t speak to you.” I get being critical and I get being frustrated over a play, but you’re not the end all be all hockey decider. It’s just not enjoyable to listen to Steve’s elitist views anymore. He just screams over anyone else offering a different opinion and shuts down conversations if they don’t align with his beliefs. Whether you agree with the call or not, you dont have to be a complete jerk. I just don’t like his attitude on plays like that. I hate watching guys get injured and being frustrated over missed calls, but you’re not any more entitled to an opinion over anyone else and I think he forgets that.
The 19-20 Red Wings were so abysmal, the fact that the last 11-12 games of the season were cancelled was a mercy. Even so, the Wings still won 3 of their opening 4 games. To see that the Sharks have 1 point in their first 10 games does make me wonder if they're actually worse, but time will tell.
Also if this was a Stanley Cup playoff game this would be another Kerry Fraser moment. Wes McCauly saying he didn't see the play while looking directly at the play.
Didn't watch the game. Didn't want to. Gonna listen to lfr live for next one, but I don't actually care what the leafs do. They don't care, y should I? I'm just so sick of this core!
The Leafs window is the Matthews Contract. A healthy 34 gives you another 4 year window. Starting 24-25. This year with this core and this sal-cap, Leafs already shown who they are not (Thx Marchand). Everyone but 34 is tradeable. If Brad is who Sheldon thinks and wagers he is, their Stanley window starts again next year.
1:00:00 ... There were Canucks fans who were pissed off over that trade. 'Why give up a pick when you could have gotten him off of waviers for free?!' Lafferty would not have lasted until the Canucks and it is good to build relations with teams in the other division so you can make these win-win trades.
You guys are right about Brad. You should trade Mathew’s, Marner, Nylander, Samsonov for Markstrom, Lindholm, Huberdeau, Kadri, Hanifin. That will give you the team Brad built……fml.
Go look at Shea Webers reaction when Jake Evans got injured my Scheifele in the playoffs. That's how a captian reacts to an injury, not what Tavares was doing zoned out in his own world.
I am a Red Wings fan who loved Tyler Bertuzzi. I remember watching him play for Guelph in The OHL and kept hoping he'd make The Red Wings. I hated losing him last season but I understood why. When he is healthy he plays with snot. Something is wrong with him. It's sad that The Leafs can't give him time off due to cap restrictions.
Sundin is legit the only person I've ever been star struck meeting. Couldn't even say a word. Dude was a house, the house at the time, C. Unreal experience honestly.
Why didn't you mention Andlauer calling out all the sports betting and MGM stuff with Wayne Gretzky? That's a pretty big deal? I know you guys have sports betting partners but you can still talk about it.
adam continuously not understanding the pens' situation is honestly hilarious. even if we don't make the playoffs this year, dubas can't go "we're rebuilding". a) the team is not rebuilding until sid has retired. b) sid, geno, tanger & karlsson ALL have full NMCs. what are you gonna do, tell them to waive them so they can be traded? lol karlsson may do that if we implode but his plan for now is to finish his career here. sid, geno & tanger are not going anywhere. they're going to try for the cup until sid retires. everyone else on the team can change - they cannot. and besides, like. we know we're gonna suck after sid (&geno) retires. we're aware of that. but that's when he retires. why bother thinking about that now. we want him to get another cup. we can worry about the rest later (of course, dubas' job is worrying about it NOW but he is - he's trying to already start the rebuild while still allowing our core to try for the cup again. and he did the best he could over the off-season. we have players that actually [mostly] fit the team. they just need to actually start winning LOL)
I feel bad for the kid at his first sharks game. I can remember my first wings game though. They lost 8-2 to the blue jackets in 2008. The year that they won the presidents trophy and the cup and the jackets were one the worst teams in the nhl lol.
Can't wait for the next one with the loss to the sabres who played 3 games in 4 nights, while the leafs had a rest day in between and didn't get up for it.. matthews got another hat trick, but who cares at this point. Very iso hockey. The Habs are doing actual things and progressing with their rebuild. They have the same point total as the leafs right now. Team was expected to be nowhere again.
Fck, how high are his ankles, I've a 3 in crack in my right ankle, constant back pain, lumber region also affected. And also I'm waiting for an appointment to try and get my back fixed and a knock on effects of my to ankles. Tell Lilligrand to grow a second pair.
"...And they might have won the cup if Tkachuk didn't have a broken sternum." Florida did a good job last year getting to the finals. But they coulda played that finals matchup a hundred times and I don't think they would have beat the Knights best of 7, once. Plus he didn't even hurt his sternum till game 3 when they were already down 2-0.
I've never listened to or watched Steve Dangle before, and I'm a Leaf fan, imagine that. But I've heard lots of great things about him and it's all true!
Steve hit the nail on the head for me. Im falling out of love because they're gutless. I don't need a team of beard man go punchies, but I've watched people stand up more for strangers then this sad sack.
It''s such a shame that Bertuzzi is a bit of an idiot. When he gives an effort, it's at least an effort you can appreciate. The problem is that he just doesn't put the work in when it counts at least half the time.
Guys this is your most insightful and brutally honest episode I've ever listened to. I fully believe that the Leafs will have two years of struggle because of the salary cap, then Treliving (if he's still here) will make massive changes after the 24-25 season. Until then there's almost nothing that can be done and we are effectively playing entire seasons and short playoff runs with no depth and no cap flexibility. Hopefully some of the young prospects come through big and we have heaps of cap relief to bring in depth particularly on defense.
Larkin is the Captain, and arguably the wings best player, and he is not afraid to stand up for his guys, leaders need to step up, doesn’t look like the Leafs have that.
