Pure Pumping - Loaded Vanguard 

Thanks buddy!

thanks man, yeah and they are fun to make too.

I think those surfskate kits are great for pumping slower and tighter turns. But probably you can´t use the flex of the board a lot in combination with such a loose truck. In my setup I have the standard trucks quite tight so I can put power in the board without the trucks overreacting. But I need higher speeds to be able to pump efficiently at all.Just try it, it´s good training and experience either way.

Thanks, I´m around 210 pounds and I have flex 1. My personal advice would definitely be flex 1 for you. Also when you are taller your stance might not be ideal on the shorter board. But I also have never tried one before.

Thanks man. I guess especially if you wanna push long distances most people would suggest a board with a drop through axles, cause it´s lower. My suggestion is, start pumping cause it´s more fun :) Loaded icarus and tan tien might might suit you well too.

@@freaksport Thaks for your quick reply, appreciate it!, I'm looking since a very long timeand comparing SBS the ICARUS and the TAN TIEN... but still have not selected the one, even if I have a slight preference for the TAN TIEN... which one would be best for me considering the fact that I like COMMUTING, PUSHING, LONG DISTANCE RUNS and would also like to consider FREESTYLE and FREERIDE + a bit of SLIDING, DANCING and DOWNHILL and with a need to have the STIFFEST possible board as PUSHING and COMMUTING LONG DISTANCES is what I do most of the time. I would also like to regularly change the wheels up and down in size (probably by keeping same Paris trucks but that depends on the wheels) and could potentially consider a SURF mount later if I wish to do some PUMPING. Which wheels would be the best for an All Around adventure, one set of wheels fits all?

Thanks! When you have both feet way up in front, you probably have your back leg in the middle of the board. That is where you have the most leverage to flex the board. Probably that´s the reason why it feels the best. With a flex 1 board and your weight I´d probably recommend rather hard bushings, but bushings are cheap and you could always experiment a bit. In the end you want to feel that the energy you put in the board is affecting the flex and the angle of the trucks equally. In the beginning and at lower speeds it´s easier to pump just with soft bushings and not really flexing the board. But riding faster and really flexing the board, that´s where the fun is and what those boards are made for. At least in my humble opinion.

Thanks buddy, it is flex 1 but the board is also more than 13 years old already.

If I work really hard I could accelerate it up from low speeds, but I guess between 16km/h 10mph and 22km/h 14mph is where it feels best and also most efficient. Accelerating and going uphill ia also quite demanding for me and I also rely heavily on smooth asphalt. I guess the way to improve your groove or flow is just to play with it and try to vary your pumping style. For flex and bushings I feel it is most important they harmonize, so energy to the board equally flows into the deck and the trucks.

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Thanks Dude, it´s the 42" version. I never had any other choice than flex 1 and I have never ridden a 38" at all. So it´s hard to give you some good advice. That beeing said, with your weight the choice could be between flex 3 and 4 in 38" . But if you can test ride them.

When you put your weight on the board you will lower it a bit already. And the rest of the height can be used to actively flex the board while pumping. When I really try hard I can actually make the middle of the deck touch the ground while riding. So the height of the board is what enables that great flex and why I absolutely love that board. So my advice would be not to lower the deck, but try to use and enjoy the full flex. And you will get used to the height. A good exercise is also to put the board on some soft grass and just bounce a bit on it to get a feeling for how much it can actually flex. Hope you enjoy the board as much as I do.

Thanks, yeah no wedges. This board is actually what would be the factory setup from Loaded. I guess wedges are mostly used on very stiff boards and that the flex of this board actually does something similar by changing the angle of trucks through every turn depending on how hard you pump/flex the board. But I haven´t actually tried wedges. I´m just too happy with my setup right now to even bother. 🙂

I´m using the yellow Orangatang Nipples (hardest) there at aroung 100kg bodyweight and a old flex 1 board. In my opinion the hardness of the bushings and the flex of the board need to be in harmony. So when you transfer power into the board the energy gets distributed evenly into the turning of the axles and the flex of the board. I actually think that`s really important and I will fine tune it continuously.

No adapter, just regular Paris 50° 180mm. Thanks man.

@@freaksport any wedges?

@@saksirikridakara no, no wedges at all. Never tried them as I don´t feel the need and think they might conflict with the flexing of the board.

Thanks, my favorite favorite board is the vanguard for sure.

I have both an prefer the Vaguard for pumping

@@maryetdave thanks!

Thanks. It´s the 42" flex 1.

Thanks Steve, I think the flex 3 is always the shorter 38'' length. So I would rather recommend the flex 2 in 42". With the longer board you have the flexibility of placing your foot closer or further away from the middle and by that changing your lever for flexing the board. My theory about bushings is, that the stiffness needs to fit the flex of the board so they work in harmony. The medium ones could be fine, maybe also the hard ones would work. I (100kg) use the hard ones and probably still over tighten them a bit. In general I think the vanguard needs some speed and some power to work really well, so it might take a bit longer to have it really work well. I had been riding other boards for maybe 10 years already before getting the vanguard, which I now own for more than 13 years also. So it might take some time to master it, but hard for me to say how long. I sadly don´t know of any instructional videos I could really recommend. My advice would just be ride as much as you can and feel the board, it has to become a subconscious thing. The location was the Olympic park in Munich. Good luck on your journey.

@@freaksport Outstanding! Just to be clear. This video is Mostly flat pumping. Level ground. Not just one long continuous downhill right?

@@stevegibson2000 the central area is flat and I ride in a circle anyway, but on the sides it bends up a bit. So the very start is a slight downhill or also 1:24 is going downhill.

@@freaksport Thanks!! you have inspired me. Heading out to get my Loaded Vanguard right now and will start training.

@@stevegibson2000 That´s awesome. Enjoy man!

Mit dem Icarus, Tan Tien oder Dervish Sama kannst Du sicher auch ähnlich pumpen wie mit dem Vanguard. Aber die sind alle halt etwas kürzer und nicht ganz so hoch. Also der Flex ist "schneller" und "kleiner". Wenn Du auch ein Kicktail haben willst, dann wäre das Fattail auch interessant, falls Du noch eines bekommst. Vielleicht kannst Du die Boards ja in einem Laden irgendwo probieren. Ich finde allein drauf zu stehen, etwas zu wippen und den Flex zu spüren gibt einem schon einen interessanten Eindruck, auch in Bezug auf dein eigenes Gewicht.

Yeah the Orangatang Nipples now. I used to have cone bushings on Randal trucks before. Probably not a huge difference. Having new bushings at all and the right durometer was definitely the bigger difference.

@@freaksport Thanks! What do you think is the best durometer for long distance pumping on Paris V3 trucks? I have a board which is basically a Vanguard replica in maple wood (built it myself) and I weight 70-75 Kgs. Because with the stock barrel+cone bushing is hard to pump properly.

@@gpietra Hard to say for me, I´m 100kg and always use the hardest durometer and still overtighten them probably. I guess if you start with the Nipples in Medium (for 68-113kg) it shouldn´t be too far off. And in the end a few factors have to play together to give you efficient pumping. Like the bushings, flex of the board, your speed, your riding style. So just try different things and you will find what fits you. My setup also needs some speed to work well and I don´t really go for long distances, just for the most fun pumping. ;)

With the bushings I would just start with the weight recommendation from orangatangwheels, which would be the orange ones in your case. And about the gullwing double kingpin trucks, I don´t have too much experience with them. In general I think these kind of trucks enable you to do much tighter turns and pump at much lower speeds. But also limit you to those lower speeds and probably don´t work well with flexing decks. In the end that´s personal preference.

@@freaksport thanks! Appreciate the replies! 🙏😄

setup is Paris V3 180mm 50°, Orangatang Caguama 85 mm and Orangatang Nipples Yellow. No wedges and symmetrical. In the description I have it describe a bit more detailed. But nothing too fancy.

@@freaksport any photos from underneath so I can see or link similar? I love your style.

@@saksirikridakara thank you. I wrote a small article about my setup, which has a few pictures. That should show you everything. www.freaksport.com/my-longboard-setup-in-detail/

Generally the trucks are completely standard Paris V2 180mm 50°. No wedges or anything. But the bushings are the hard yellow nipples and I also tighten them quite a bit and will often bring my skate tool to adjust while riding. For me the flex of the board and the bushings must be in "harmony".

@@freaksport which way does the kingpin face on the front and back?

@@saksirikridakara they both face outwards, so it is a symmetrical setup which you could ride both ways. Yet I still only ride it in one direction normally as I will have slightly different tension on the bushings.

the yellow Orangatang Nipples, but I´m around 100kg also.

It´s 42 and flex 1

It is flex 1 and I´m around 100kg.