Push Pull Hand Technique for the Drum Set 

I just want to say that I'm honoured to watch a very talented musician that shares his tremendous knowledge. thank you very much

I've been working on this technique for just over 1 year, AND I STILL HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO.

Ramon Montagner (from Brazil) is one of great drummers in this technique.

As some have noted, push-pull is next to Mueller on ‘skins’ for cymbal sticking and articulate, efficient and ergonomic playing. Using the leverage combination of the stick and hand in achieving rhythmic changes is a level of excellence that I’ll be working on after your demo. And for those who try to understand what went on in “Whiplash”’s ride cymbal drum-off, then the answer is literally at hand.

Thanks Rick. I've been watching some of your stuff recently and am very impressed by how you can relate concepts. I've been grappling with push-pull for a few years and just recently had a minor breakthrough. I think your explanation here just might get me over the top! Going on 66 in May....never stop learning new stuff!

thank you, I've learned something really great,

Amazing sound

Sei un grande maestro!!Grazie

I truly enjoy your Videos Rick... Clear & Simple delivery of the info and instruction. Man, How do you achieve that sweet Snare Sound.? THX

So great ...!

Jim Gordon’s opening on “Why does love got to be so sad” from Derek and the Dominoes live in concert has that technique on this tune. He loved playing those 16th notes.

how effortless, I love your feel and sound. I remember my first rehearsal space I ever rented happened to be in Kenwood's loft in 1996 and he showed me all kinds of insane, mind blowing concepts. Wild

The groove @ 9:43-9:57 was killer.

This MoFo knows his shit!!!! Incredible video. I always wondered how they did those fast 1/16 notes with one hand!! Great lesson!

Thank you for this video!. Am 45 years old and just started working on it. Vids like this one help a lot really!

Thanks, Rick, for showing the practice pad close up view. TB

Hey, somehow that's pretty much what I was naturally trying to find when I just started getting familiar with drums. Relaxed hand! Reminds me of Rishad Shafi. It seems that all kind of drumming that came from ancient Osman and Great Mogul Empires have more of that feel as opposed to what stems from German military tradition. Thank you so much Rick!

Thank you SO MUCH Rick! Love all your lessons!!

Kenwood Dennard. Haven’t heard about him in a while. He played on Stings version of Little Wing, twas a favorite back in the day. Fantastic channel btw!

This is the best explanation of the push-pull technique I've seen - thanks, Rick!

Dear sir, could you please do an instructional video on how to apply the push-pull technique in the traditional grip?

Thank you for all you do. For me the reason I struggle with some bass drum placements is when they fall on the finger driven part of the 16th note pattern. I continue to work on this with the Funky Drummer groove wherever the hi hat barks or bass drum fall on these e or u notes. My brain is feeling the 8th notes as the pulse. OK can I get credit for my weak dissertation now😊

That meters groove is so nasty! Love it

Wonderful .Thanks.

Hi Rick, love your videos. Funny that you mentioned Woody, because he was the first one I saw using this technique, as well. (I used to go see him play with Jaco in the Village, too.) I can't remember if it was push/pull or the Johnny Rabb-style one-handed roll he copped from Magrus Borges, but he had this technique to which he referred as the Woodstroke. What a fabulous player.

I used to pay 50 bucks an hour for this kind of teaching, and it wasn't quite as good. Thank you so much

You have rhe right push pull feeling. Latin.

Yea Rick!

This technique is also useful to play the song Fred by Tony Williams.

I started playing drums long before RU-vid and all of this free education. I actually miss going to the gig to learn techniques and expanding. Gave me the feeling of earning the knowledge in a way. It’s kinda ridiculous now. Seems like people especially the younger crowd has no appreciation for learning things on your own 🤷🏻‍♂️

The push pull technique is a great thing to work on, and I really enjoyed your explanation. Also, what drums are you playing in that video? They sound wonderful! Thank you.

Great lesson...very well explained...very clear...

Thanks for posting this - you’re a great drummer, man!

Great video

Great video!

Excellent

Thank you, thank you Thank you!!!!

Excellent !

Thanks for sharing this info! Hugs Rick, thanks for inspiring us with your playing!

This is great, thank you so much. You're a great drummer!

profe gracias por compartir sus enseñanzas

Rick, I think there is a push/pull method for the trad left hand as well. It's a drop squeeze, I believe. ? Just wondering if you could show that. Also for matched grip I assume the same method you show here on the right can be applied to the left.

Thank you!!!

Thank you for the very informative presentation. I'd like to ask how much do you use your thumb on the push-pull technique? Looks like it's about 45 degrees but I've seen other drummers, notably Mr. Ramon Montagner, use it in the extent of the French grip. i.e. it's actually doing most of the work.

Thank you.

Excellent... thank you french..

Great stuff. I've never worked on this technique. I'm wondering how long it would take to develop it. How long do you think it would take an old dog to learn a new trick?

This technique is very useful for causing massive amounts of alcohol consumption once you reach a level of frustration you've never experienced before 🙋

Wow great technique. I’ve been doing a shaft, tip technique on the hi hats for a while now but I’m not sure if that’s this or not. Maybe I need to focus on the fingers more on the up beat strokes?

Great

Great Great Great

Thanks for posting this video, Mr. Dior. When you pull up the stick, does it touch any part of your palm? Also, for three-note groupings, say an up-tempo jazz-ride, is the middle note played on the way up or down?

How involved is the bending of the thumb in this technique?

Mostly the middle and ring finger doing the work? At fast tempos how high does your stick rebound? I’m having a hard time relaxing enough to break that mid to fast tempo barrier.

Rick, do you live in the Puget Sound area? I'm in Portland, but I lived in Tacoma for awhile. It would be cool to take a lesson from you some time.

Nice lesson. You are using american grip. Can this be done with French grip?

great technique Rick............what drums are those in this video

Thank you, Rick. Is this also what you’re doing for your double stroke rolls?

Rick- is your right hand thumb positioned higher up when doing push pull, compared to the normal grip? It looks like you've moved the thumb clockwise so the thumb's almost on top of the stick. Also, where in the right hand's index finger is the stick held on push pull- is the index finger's fulcrum in the 1st or 2nd bend in that finger itself? It moves up towards the 2nd bend when I'm holding the stick relaxed. And if the thumb rotates higher up, definitely in the 2nd bend.

So when playing matched grip does the push-pull technique work primarily for french and american grip? Could it be used in the german grip?

Hi Rick. In my right hand I've noticed that when using the push/pull method my index finger sort of straightens (or gives in) which gives the stick a very unstable and non-linear path, and I also find it extremely hard to get a loud second stroke with my fingers. In my left hand, which is wrist dominant (instead of right hand, which has naturally progressed to the point that I play mainly with my thumb and index finger), the stick moves in a straight line and I'm able to get a much louder second stroke and consistent doubles. Is this a problem you've encountered in your students' playing? Excuse for this long message which might be a bit badly written, since English is not my first language. Greetings from Finland!

Did Peter Erskine use this technique for The Chicken?

that drumstick looks like a sequoia tree from the national forest. just kidding fantastic drumming and a good video. thanks

Being a drummer for 30 years I tried to incorporate this technique into my playing, nope can't get it

your "okay?" and "all right", especially after playing something very fast, difficult, and precise, sound just like Joe Morello.

What ride is? Beautiful sound.

how to do push pull using traditional grip?

It's look so easy... But just it look

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