Pushing CNC Machine Speeds to the Limit 

Never thought I'd watch CNC propaganda hahaha

Well yah its Aluminum . Also when you cut fast and hard you always put stress / pressure risers into the material . Try making super precision items like that OK for roughing , not for finishing . Also spindles hate high loads and so do ways and ball screws ! Every job requires a different approach. Coming from a collet maker .

I love coming back to these older videos just to see how far you and your team have gone! Truly amazing! Thankyou for sharing your knowledge for FREE with the world! 🙏

there is nothing I love more than seeing endmills fly that fast with a huge depth of cut.

He said in the video, this is the roughing program. I optimize all roughing programs at every shop I go to when I see how slow they’re running.

Hello Gilroy , i wish when i was machining my bosses had such a positive and exciting attitude with there employees like you show in your video At 59 years of age my machining days are past , but i believe that your passion demonstrated can only elevate your work force towards a higher learning and a corporate passion for excellence that can only excel your company , all the best man .

Welcome to how its done across the world. 1000in/m isn't unheard of in mild steel or aluminum machining.

Lol look at your load. It will also equate to down time for spindle repairs and axis drives.

The man has a very valid point. Cannot begin to tell you how many times I've seen people running a half inch end mill taking a sixteenth of an inch axially and running sixteen inches per minute on twenty horsepower machines. If you are not going to use the twenty horses, save some money and buy something smaller. Also, no matter how much of a hotrod you think you are someone out there is doing it faster. I know of a LOT of Haas machines out in the world that are over ten years old than have been run at their peak most of their lives and still run well. If Haas machines were as bad as people say they would not be around anymore. How many Hyundai machines (Same people who make the cars) you see out in the world? None. They sucked.

The second part did depth cuts which was completely unnecessarily especially at 100 ipm. You need to compare apples to apples.

Oh yeah?? Well I bet you can’t machine *INSERT OBSCURE MATERIAL* at those feeds!!! Folks, this video is promoting a MINDSET, not “run 800ipm on everything!” Titan has plenty of videos on machining hard metals quickly. Also, aluminum is ubiquitous in aerospace. There’s nothing “garage shop” or “small-time” in making money machining aluminum.

It’s been 30 years since I was a cnc machinist in the U.K. and we used to run high speeds where we could back then it’s nothing new

Its good for save time and can increase productivity but as well as it will increase tooling cost.

every one of those dudes watching, watch parts get made at the same speed literally all day. this isnt new to them lol

He is just plugged the hell out of imco tools...and as an employee I appreciate it

This channel and its content, is the perfect example of a decadence in machining industry ...

All these pros down in the comments saying he’s going to fast and he won’t get good tolerance. You can easily just slow it down for the final passes, he’s showing how easily and fast he can make the big cuts and save large amounts of time. New cncs can just handle this now he’s still doin it in 2020.

Titan is correct about adapting to newer technologies. This video demonstrates the difference between newer waveform machining vs traditional profile machining. Waveform is far more superior but it comes with a price.

Your tools are gonna get dull very quick if you keep going those speeds. Your not gonna have good toleranc after a few runs.

I have been playing with speeds and feeds this week . Got my machine to cut at 20metres a minute . Seriously fast

TITAN's now has became my idol for me to raise again and re-start a new cnc machining business and pioneer an advanced level in Advance Machining Facility in my country Malaysia.. He's totally a genius in CNC's machining world!! Thank's Mr. Titan.!

Though I'm a Brazilian who lives in Japan, I'm always inspired by the American Spirit! Thank you TITANS!

try 800 ipm on steel

assuming the cnc machine can handle the increased workload. most companies don't want to overwork the machines... machines are depreciated over a set number of years/hours. if you are putting more work on the machine, you may be reducing it's effective lifespan... especially the tooling. so all this cuts into profit, which squeezes the competition. sure, you can sustain the business model, but can smaller shops that don't have that type of money for investment? food for thought.

CHATTER IS NOW A FINISH. LOL 🤣

Super speed machining with a Haas, cutting aluminum. LOL.

Good demonstration of the speed/cost comparison. I've never seen it put this way side-by-side it makes perfect sense

cost is only dependent on runtime when you either produce a whole lot of the same part in mass production OR decide beforehand whether you want titanium or something else. I dont get why they can charge the customer less money by milling a part for 2 minutes instead of 4 or even 10. preparing the whole operation for these parts and doing the hand labor takes away most of the time and employees salary anyway. This show is hilarious though. they tried to make a cnc milling shack a cool thing like OCC or whatever. and all these people are standing there talking and watching the cnc. wtf is this. saluted for comedic effect because i cant help it

I can imagine at higher speeds there would be more vibrations and increase wear on components, although these machines look well built

Lmao its not even the same program

Thank you! I have this problem, and now that i have seen this video I understand the need for faster machining. I will whip out my feeds and speeds book and begin learning.

In Germany we say aluminum is not an enemy. Good chanel though

Titan has some of the best work ethic a man can have. I’d be proud to work at his company.

I fucking love you. What did I just see. He is so right we as a country need to adopt that philosophy. I saw the craziest graph the year; stating that we as a country consume more than we produce, due to overproduction overseas.

I love this guy's attitude

Every now and then I want to unsubscribe just so that I can have the pleasure of subscribing again! Titan, you are my hero! I have purchased my first VMC, a HAAS Sminimill that was delivered just yesterday and it is all thanks to the information that you are sharing and making it more approachable for an average person like me. Thank you!

When having slower IPM you get a finer finish and much better looking sides, running it hard and fast adds so much spindle load and wares the drill much faster and increses the chance of something going wrong and it being bigger than if it was running slower

Titan's message is contained in my book "The Economics of Speed: Machine Speed as the Key Factor in Productivity," Springer 2020.

Working for a big international company I am afraid the USA is quite a but behind Europe in terms of capabilities especially in machining for medical devices. It's very hard to.find high quality casting companies in the USA with vertical integration. Same for part cost. We have resourced most of our machines components to Europe for cost quality and delivery. USA is not what it was. Too many companies sold out to cheap Chinese manufacturing whereas in Europe they seem to have kept the core skills in house and outsourced the basic stuff to China. We do billions of spend each year in our products and it's very evident. Why make electronics in China vs. Design and make in America. In Europe cars were designed and made there, same for high end machine tools most supercars. In the US a lot of good products are designed but made in China

I know this is old, but how does tooling cost come into the equation? I assume you use higher end and more expensive tooling, but also the tools might wear faster and need to be replaced more often, or just faster since they are removing more material faster too. I'd be curious how tooling costs figure into the cost stack. Thanks!

Tool wear, and spindle wear. You can push a machine to it's limits great, but look at the cost per tooling, and possibly a spindle failing.

I'm a hobby level machinist and also like to run as fast as possible. I never really noticed any wear on mine but it doesn't really run that much, I am wondering how much more you spend on maintaince or replacement parts.

Must be the only guy in the world who makes a profit by charging his customers less LOL Keep up the good work mate ;D

I was hating on you for a while then I realized that you're only manufacturing a small percentage of all that is being manufactured in United States I hope the best for you

I try to teach this to my customers , machine to the limits of the machine, spindle, and tooling.

I LOVE ALL THE COMMENTS. running aluminum at these speeds is normal and if you invest in good tooling they have pretty good life as well . My problem with this is -i would like to see someone show me how they are high speed machining tool steels M2,D2 ,A2 O-1 ECT. I also get the whole saving time makes money but tolerance and finishing comes into play as well -this is a video that is only part of the information -NOT ALL the information.

What about a Bridgeport? My hand can only turn so fast? Lol

I'd like to see the the Mitsubishi machining center at work do that on chromoly steel.

SFM of 2000 is feasible for Aluminium 308 (5-8% Si) with a 0.5 inch dia tool, and this gives an RPM of 15280For Aluminium 308 (5-8% Si) roughing a max. IPT of 0.02 is possible. For a 0.5 inch dia Carbide tool with 2 flutes, it means that: IPM = RPM x IPT x number of flutesIPM = 15280 x 0.02 x 2 = 611.2 The only way to achieve 800 IPM is either by increasing the SFM or the number of flutes

Yes sure you can do that or I’m saying you can go faster who care it’s good for a show but not when you have close tolerance and you need to change your Machine every couple years 😂😂

He is 1000% right don't deal with cheap labor, increase performance

I like that winner attitude nice shop BTW! I am a professional welder and I love your videos

i was conventional mill operator at Boeing late 70s. they pushed for speed. BUT they NEVER complained if you broke a cutter.

lot of arm chair referees commenting. Do yall have a shop? Ever done a million month?

I like your made in America message! If you can follow speed with quality & precision then you will have a winning formula!

As a machinist my dream I will go America for proved my skill...its will be soon... now my work place is Malaysia...

I run 40 ipm 1500rpm on my manual mill! I would run faster but I'm maxing my power feed out...

Hav u try same speed on ti or superalloys?

Hey Titan, thank you for putting out all of these videos. They have helped a ton even with my small CNC router.

Your way of teaching me is very unique. Ty to be a part of it. Keep up ur good work 😎

Amen brother. Your doing good things. Yes your losing money up front but saving your customer money. That customer keeps coming back. Spending money at your shop. Short term lost long term gain.

Pushing the limits is great in a shop with no repercussions. But I'm real people. Tool life and part quality are number 1 and number 1.5

I think a few others have mentioned it but pushing your spindle load like that has to result in breakdowns and therefore, down time. From what I saw, it was almost always over 100% and sometimes 180%-200%. How do you deal with that? There's a gun stock manufacturer near me that uses Haas machines and pushes them like that. They replace them every 5 years because they're completely worn out by then. Is that your approach too?

Good to hear the spirit of build it here include some "how". Good stuff!

Your team made me freedom,thanks you.

They’ve a great machine shop...perfect business

The only reason you want to run FAST is for mass production. But your not gonna get anywhere changing burned up tools all the time. You need a balance. Not to mention that eventually somethings gonna break.

Titan - in the academy of CNC videos, you're using Fusion. Here and in other videos, your shop uses Inventor. Can you talk about one vs. the other?

I like to see such video with steel

We've an old Mori-Seiki that can do these speeds/feeds quite easily. Utterly reliable. It's nothing compared to a DST Ecospeed F though. 11 cubic litres of swarf removed per minute when roughing at full tilt

WTF those guys are talking, its just simple physics, where forces must be equale, that something doesnt break, and why are you hiding your likes/dislikes?

Cnc is now a motor sport!

I love this guy! Respect!

Am I missing something here? I didn't see anything "pushing machine speeds to the limit." I see decent programming WRT efficient tool paths but nothing that even remotely scares me WRT tool loading. My machines suck at tight tolerance when hauling ass but for material removal it ain't rocket science; Use your CAM for constant chip loading with a deep cut and whatever your spindle's torque can deal with on radial. What am I missing here? Are you guys hiring? I got me some CAD/CAM skills lol

So in America all CNC machines working with Inch . Lol sounds funny 🤣🤣🤣

Haas...the aluminum machine!

Anybody with a shop full of Haas machines talking about high speed machining and high material removal is just blowing smoke. Wouldn't mind putting that part up on one of my horizontals, maybe bump up to around 18 00 IPM. Now we talking boys!

That's a regular day in my shop man.. non stop rush orders. 400. Thou doc on stainless!! She can handle it

In a few months we get a new machine .... Emco Hyperturn 110 or something a similar machine. I will have so much fun 😁😁

I would like to know how long that spindle will last after that overload cuts (Specially in a Haas) xD

I'd like to see a Brother S700X1 Side by Side with this "Amazingly Fast" Haas. Then we can see what fast really is.

20k rpm at 1500 Ipm on a Cincinnati milacron 5 axis 3 spindle

We all know Haas machines are also sold in China and also Mazaks, Okuma, DMG Moris, etc... And yes cutting at the same speeds and feeds! Couple that with cheaper labor and no unions, China will most likely always win! Sad but true! We have to innovate! Great video though, watched it 2x!

Adding the cost of tooling as well ???

Did he wait a bit before grabbing that machined aluminum part? It must have been hot as hell? Did you say .200 inces radial cut? Nice video.

Do you guys only run aerospace aluminum? Or do you run real metals like Hastaloy B, Alloy 20, and Titanium grade 2?

I want to learn about the life expectancy of cutting tools on a cnc.

TITAN way to go.

why is his hand on the stop button?

Merica.

Like it mate would love a job in your shop live in the uk and have my own small machine shop just low volume but love your machines quality

Love your passion Titan... you rock!!!

Lots of factors here Workholding Cutter Holding Cutter Length and Diameter Older machines will struggle and maybe the cutters are not always sharp Everything has to be managed from the top to practise this type of machining Good when it all goes together though Good job

How can you push haas up to 800ipm i our company we heve 3 haas machine and the max thet program let us is (12000mm/min ) 470ipm... how do you push it pass thet, whit overrides ?

Machine operators are fine a dozen , programming and manual machining is where at.

Tool life is a thing. Also my vf6 maxes at 500ipm I believe with a 40 taper at 15hp. I get excited to run 125ipm at .1 doc 2/3 step over 5000rpm with a 3inch kennametal face mill with super sharp positive rake inserts at 90-100% spindle load...its also from the 80s I think.

Sweet surface finish...

4:09 Yeah I CAN hear crickets...

... I just freehand everything with a German Plunge router.. LOL!

Sir can you explain how to make a semicircle in G18 zx plain using G02 or G03, actually when I am working it is cutting v shape, not working with cutter compensation. So please ans if any possibility in hand programing.