Puss in Boots the Last Wish Laughs in the Face of The Film Industry 

I doubt this will be a point in the following movies, but I like it as a thought. What if the world is going to need a hero? Puss as he was in the beginning of the last Wish would have died out of carelessness before doing what the hero needed to do. Death has Puss either shape up, or another hero takes his place, which for some reason is inconvenient for Death. This is a Fairy Tale universe after all, where such things could happen. As I said, just a thought, but I would be very impressed if they put that into a following movie. And if not, it is fine as it is.

Exactly, because life looses it’s purpose without death, but death also looses it’s weight if someone doesn’t appreciate life for what it is… a precious gift

An interesting thing to note is that Death stopped showing up once Puss settled down to live his life as “Pickles”. It was only until he started adventuring as Puss in Boots again that Death resumed the chase

When you have a bad relationship with your mortality, it feels like death is chasing you. When you are at peace with your mortality, it feels like you are just strolling to death at your own pace

Which is also a great metaphor for real life: those that toss around their life carelessly will most likely face death early.

NO WAY 😱

Damn, fr? Thats a cool fact you dont hear everyday.

Enforced method acting... By the lead actor. No wonder he sells the "role" so well.

​@@hariman7727 mf what 💀💀

@@tofuurii Method Acting is the actor feeling/experiencing the same emotions the character does to be able to perform better. Antonio Banderas LIVED the same crisis with his own mortality that Puss experiences in The Last Wish.

Well said sir!

Death is also anxiety. Think about it.

Well said!

The writier is like "uh, totally yes, is uh, my attention all along. "

Ure just imagining it. Like all art reviewer in the world

yep. It's amazing how you change your method in doing something once you change your perspective on life.

The detail for ppl who knows this too, must have taken them a decade to make the film let alone writing the script

@@gregoryford2532 Ah, yes, as if most modern day live actions aren't the exact same genre to eachother either.

"Animation is cinema"

We just learned about Viewing Genres in School and when I saw animation I was dumbfounded

It would be amazing to see a horror movie in animation and I mean really scary. The closest we have would be Coraline (that movie scared me so much as a kid) There are so many possibilities!

@@starling1226 There's a lot of animated horror short films. They are usually stop-motion as well

And that method was done right in this movie.

I was so disappointed when they saved Goldie. She had to go, it was her time

@@scoobydoo7275 but it was better that she lived!! she finally realized how important her family was

Maybe that's what made them feel balanced. I had just assumed that they were really well distinguished, but implementing those base antagonist profiles you mentioned must've done a lot more from a writing perspective. Great call!

@@scoobydoo7275 she was the sympathetic villian. That's her whole arc. It's supposed to be predictable. They have every villian archetype here. The unstoppable, the down-right evil, and the understandable. Killing Goldie off wouldn't make any narrative sense. Killing Jack Horner off makes narrative sense.

perrito* whoops. i'm bad with names

The sheer tragedy of his back story just hit differently. I do not think he would have been an effective character without it. It changes the entire audiences view on him. The story of the sock is where the point where he goes from annoying side character to a mainstay

@@goldenhate6649 I'm not sure honestly His character is great without the backstory. To me, his appreciation of the present moment and focus on the positive worked really even without the sock He held his "therapist" persona really well, both as a joke and when it mattered The "I don't believe you" - "it's fine, as long as you believe in yourself" made me laugh, but it was also a great serious line because of how taken aback Kitty was from it. It worked well with her character because she's looking for someone to trust and has never heard this kind of basic encouragement before. Obviously calming Puss' panic attack, but with such care In a way, he worked as the other mentor for Puss. Death was a mentor in kicking yourself up and improving through work and determination to stop running; Perrito was a mentor in accepting your emotions, past, learning to communicate and move forward; and to see the beauty in the moments. Two complementary ways of teaching the same thing. For example directly after the panic attack, when he said it's fine to be afraid; and later got Puss to talk to Kitty about bailing the wedding. Overall being super caring for Kitty and Puss and the most emotionally mature character of the universe All of this would have worked without the sock. His backstory helped in taking him seriously when he spoke of enjoying the present moment, because he of all people didn't let himself be dragged and ruined by his past. But I think the character worked well regardless and the "UnWanted" poster kinda already did that to an extent, long before we knew about his actual past!

Honestly he kept flip flopping from “I want to punt him” to “protec at all costs”.

​@@goldenhate6649 "That's the saddest funny backstory I've ever heard!"

It honestly poetic... in real life you don't think about death when caught up in the moment but then suddenly its there... whistling softly.

@@lasercraft32 better yet, death shows up when Puss is either alone in his head or when he reflects about his legacy/the wish. It effectively shows that his anxiety and mortality is always on his mind.

He's more of an antagonist. Jack Horner is the villain.

@Lasercraft32 idk why I read the beginning as "it's honestly pathetic" haha, but yes it's honestly genius how Death just creeps up every now and then

@@rayanna7188 lmao

It's something that needs to be heard in a fast disposable consumption culture.

@@AFlyingWalrus you sir are the culmination of everything i agree with Nice introspection

(Except that next door we see CGI quality, pay and work conditions in rapid decline. This sentiment, interpreted in industry, means 'crack the whip harder', rather than 'you hired all this talent, where'd all the mediocrity come from?'. Credit due: at least we're regularly bored enough to savour a masterpiece)

@@ezg5221 I'm moreso talking from an organizational standpoint, and that needs to change as well

Entire reason why "mid" is considered an insult, and a stupid one imo

I just hope that DreamWorks keeps in mind the success that this spin-off has had, and gives Tigress her own movie

Joel Crawford, the director of this movie, will be directing the next Kung Fu Panda so that imagination will be reality very soon 😁.

I hope they keep this art style for all their upcoming movies

And the effort with the villains

@@Gaming2DMX isn't that something that was critizised in the beginning of this video? sticking to one art style? Admittedly, styles can support plenty of stories, but shouldn't each story warrant the question whether or not it benefits from an existing or new style?

I'm sorry about your reason for being so touched by the relationship between Goldie and Mamma. I hope despite that, you're doing okay❤

​@@elenasmcanonico3163 I love seeing warm comments like this. Brightens my belief in the human spirit.

Seeing a such a beautiful mother/daughter relationship growth in a movie with a bear mother gave me major Brave feels

I did love that with mama bear. I also noticed more of an individual dynamic more on the second watch with each bear. It went over my head initially, but Goldie mostly hits heads with baby bear, the youngest, while also bonding with him the most for actual progress (the sniffer leading quite a lot of the path). Just like how mama bear watches out for them and acts as the mother for her children, the baby is virtually the sibling in a mutual play-together and bickering pair kind of way. It makes it even better when its the one she fusses with the most that she also gives up her supposed wish to save - their arguments aren't personal, they can set it aside and love each other when it matters. Father bear seems more subtle aside from some dad gags like snoozing on the chair, but he's also got his own side to stepping up, being the rock against pain as well as the one who doesn't care if he hurts feelings in confirming baby's insecurities. It truly is a quirky and defined family, and while everyone is talking about tears over the anxiety attack, I can't get through the end of the 3 bears arc without tears rolling.

Mama bear being genueinly so caring for goldie hits hard for real. I do hope you can seek a mother daughter connection someday as well!

omg I saw somewhere that death was watching in the background of the fight btw puss and the giant but I never realized that the bell tolled 8 times! the little details in this movie keep on surprising me, I love it! 😊

At the bar, when we first meet death, Puss has had 8 glasses, and he's on his 9th

Legit was hyped when Puss said to Death in the end: "Pick it up."

Thank you for stating what key. I almost immediately went on a search after realizing you were right, before reading the rest of your comment and seeing I didnt have to. So thank you

Also, a few seconds before Puss gets crushed by the bell, the moment he steps back on frame to offer an encore, you can hear the start of Death's whistle. It blends in with the crowd's cheers and whoops upon first viewing, but if you listen for it...

Like I said I love Jack and he's a great counterbalance to everything else going on in the movie

Jack is literally a parody of all those bad villains you are supposed to sympathise with because of some cheap backstory. He literally said himself that he had a loving family, he was rich, etc. and is just an entitled fuck in general who thinks he deserves even more. That's just... amazing.

@@helion_ut Same we had in Phineas & Ferb Movie. There we meet Duffenschmirtz from alternative dimension who is an antonym of Duffenschmirtz. He is just a spoiled kid who could always get what he wanted. Oh btw Duffenschmirtz helps to defeat his doppelganger.

He’s also a good parallel to Puss. Puss didn’t value life just as much as Jack. The difference being whose life he didn’t value. It’s funny cuz puss had such an ego and image as a fearless hero, that he didn’t realize he was actively treating himself badly. Jack didn’t value the life of others. So we see that Jack hasn’t changed at all, but Puss grew to appreciate life

His sob backstory is that he had loving parents and inherited a huge pie enterprise. So sad!

Just goes to show that we should stop crediting the work of the amazing people working on these movies to their soul-less corporate overlords. I also guess that even those lizard people are capable of seeing when a team seems solid enough that they deserve funding, they wouldn't be making money at all otherwise after all.

Every studio has their bruh moment - with Sony, the Emoji Movie, and with Dreamworks, Boss Baby

Worse, Chris Meledandri who created minions and illumination and is the overseer of all illumination films was the one that brought back puss in boots 2 from development hell AND was an executive producer in the film. Lol.

@@mrdoggo3569 Interesting

@@seratope boss baby was not a bruh moment for DreamWorks lol. It was crazy popular and made tons of money for them. They got a sequel, an Oscar, a spinoff show, etc.

Speaking of style mixing and anime, I'm sure people remember that one episode of Amazing World of Gumball where Nicole becomes an anime character. A show will known for mixing 2d and 3d elements. You nailed it on the heat.

It's also worth noting that the people who grew up watching anime (in a more mainstream way) are now old enough to be working on these movies. I truly believe that the dynamic action we've been seeing in animation (like this movie, Spiderverse or the somewhat recent TMNT movie) has been influenced by the reputation anime has on fights

@@narufan987 This is an excellent point. I love seeing how Anime, especially ones I grew up on, with sweeping shots and breathtaking fight scenes has been influencing current animation. Though I also want to point out that Dreamworks, from Prince of Egypt, Kung Fu Panda, How to Train your Dragon (2, specifically), Croods and of course Puss in Boots 2 tend to open on BREATHTAKING fluid epic scenes that really showcases how the characters move and act but also build up on the world around them. Like they have long had that Animesque influence on there animation style that, sadly, Shrek, almost killed off. I'm glad to see the Prince of Egypt influence return to Dreamworks films, cause they really push the envelope more so than Disney had in a very very VERY long time.

Yes! Omg i kept telling my friends this, I love it sm

Yes agreed

And his design is fairly simple too. Its astounding that a character with so many usually cliché design aspects feels not even remotely cliché! (Black cloak, red eyes, a wolf, uses sickles... on their own these traits are nothing unique but together its amazing).

Dragon ball in movie form

Persona 5 felt like it tried to do the same thing with, Jaldabaoth, Shido and… the Black Mask Persona user (Because of Royal being recently released on Xbox gamepass, Switch, etc. I’m trying not to spoil that one.) But only really 2 of them were good. And I still can’t decide who the second one is between Shido and Jaldabaoth. And then there was also kinda the same thing in Sonic Adventure 2 with Team Dark where Shadow was definitely that force of nature, being the Ultime Lifeform and all, Rouge being the more sympathetic one out of the three, at least in my eyes as she had learned about Project Shadow and all that happened while Shadow has no idea and being forced to blow up the island of the people she works for without any chance of fighting back against Shadow and Eggman without just being fucking shot by Eggman’s gun, and Eggman just being delightfully vile and just straight up blowing up the FUCKING MOON AND THREATENING TO POP SOME LEAD INTO AMY’S FUCKING HEAD.

they did incredibly well for having multiple antagonists at once without it feeling too crowded or tacked on, the well regarded toby maguire spiderman series tried to do this with spiderman 3 and failed showing just how hard it is to pull off

Every dnd alligment of evil lol

Fun fact the movie is super duper woke and conservatives are morons lol. The movie is an awesome woke piece of media lol

Those were also my favorite scenes. Sometimes the obvious choice happens to be the best one. No need to subvert our expectations every time...

The fucking Goldie and Puss knowing that they had what they wanted in front of their eyes and fighting the incarnation of ambition (that is killed by crickety) and the conclusion, man, this made me feel like the first time I finished reading a book, casually it was the Wizard of Oz, which had a similar conclusion

same here.

Perrito is honestly so precious. I usually don't care for his type of character, but he managed to steal my heart. The way he just lets Puss gradually recover, instead of trying to force a "YOU'RE GONNA BE ALRIGHT!" on him really moved me.

I CRIED SO HARD MY FRIEND MADE FUN OF ME

😏That map was quite the sneaky thing. In a way it is also a minor character.

And the fact that the map gave her the old bears' house is also another clue

I think that sort of juxtaposition comes from the fact that he's not a malicious guy, he actually even wants people to have meaning and value to their lives (even if only because he feels it disrespectful and ignoring him to not), but finding yourself in a position where you're looking the literal actual embodiment of death in the eyes is a terrifying situation nonetheless

You should read the Death subseries of Discworld, cus Death is exactly like that!

Wagner Moura did a phenomenal job with Death's voice

If you think about it, Death isn't supposed to be scary, we're supposed to accept him because one day or another we will die

@@MariOmor1 yeah. But a lot of shows depict him as scary because we are scared of it

When was this talked about in the video

I think that's exactly why it feel so hard, everyone could expect a fight, that the 3 bears were going to feel betrayed and leave Goldi for it's own and then Come Back in the last minute to help her and then she was going to accept them as her real family, but no! They just help her, Even after Goldi revelas her wish, showing that the 3 bears love her in a way that Only a real family could Love You, helping You to Achive your Dreams even if it's Selfish, they help because they just love her in all the Circumstances and it's amaizing!

@@ommers1592 17:15

Mama bear is such a great parent always thinking about what her daughter wanted. This is exactly why Perrito said that Goldi won the orphan lottery.

All three of the bears were such great characters that complimented Goldi really well, but Mama Bear is too pure for this world 😭 Such a great parent figure who just wants their children to be happy

Death is Puss’ character’s antagonist, and Jack is the plot antagonist. They serve different purposes very well

@@gundamofspitara7583 Excellently put

I hadn't even realized that about Jack! That's a really good take!

Wonder why Death doesn't also come after Jack instead of Puss and yeah Jack killed himself but Death doesn't know that

@@iwantabigpiece death is just in that it doesn't discriminate against good or evil. What makes it go after Puss is the fact that he died 8 times and still lives and still wastes his life

I'm sorry about your problem. I hope despite that, you're doing okay, as you deserve to be🙏❤

Heck, I don't think I've ever had a real, full-blown panic attack in my life, or know that I've known anyone who has, but just the borderline anxiety that I have had, I saw Puss and said 'this is what that would be out of control, full blown'. I suspect whoever animated that had actually experienced real panic attacks, first or second person, and probably regularly.

That scene makes me cry every time. Such an accurate yet respectful depiction of a panic attack, with Perrito's simple act of comfort being so tender and sweet. One of the best scenes in the film

I struggle with a panic disorder as well and could immediately recognize what was going on and it made me want to cry, but in a good way. I haven't seen it portrayed so damn well before, not to mention Perrito putting his head on Puss's chest. The feeling that I am about to die consumes me with every panic attack and this scene just spoke to me more than words ever could.

Even with puss and kitty, I'm glad they didn't do the third act miaunderstanding exaggerater fallout with them either, likw kitty is still unhappy at puss for running away, but she can understand why, she was just hoping he could do better

Olivia Coleman was PERFECTLY casted. She was goofy, but also motherly.

Death is a beautiful, kind and handsome angel towards the humble and a vile, sadistic and torterous demon towards the arrogant.

I caught this too. Simple, but a great use of music theory to set the mood

Apparently it's also "pop goes the weasel" but with notes removed in certain parts.

Death's whistle was NOT in a minor key at any point. It was in G major for most of the movie and was bumped up to A major for the final time it was played. What gave the whistle its creepy quality was that it was often dissonant from the background music or was the only music/background sound playing. It only sounds more hopeful and pleasant that final time because 1) it's in a higher key than it was previously and 2) it matches the already optimistic background music very well.

@@DrErikNefarious I thought it sounded like the spongebob theme

It could be more interesting than that, a common Spanish phrase is "hasta ha mañana" which is a farewell that means "I'll see you tomorrow." So I think a fair translation of Puss' "Si, Hasta la muerte" could be "yes, I'll see you at (my) death." Showing, like you said, that Puss accepts his death as inevitable.

I interpreted the line as meaning "Until then ..." or when my life is over, I will accept Death. Pretty deep for a kid's film.

@@rengarcia5189 same here. I interprited it as til we meet again

@@nowenattal4018 It's "Hasta mañana" by the way. It generally means "See you tomorrow" but it's textual translation is "Until tomorrow".

Hasta la vista’s a well-known catchphrase in pop culture as well, I immediately made the link between it and hasta la muerte since the phrases are very similar. At first I thought vista meant life but I just checked it and it means view. It still means "see you later"

Yeah, most of the time the Tune is whistled in a Minor key which makes it a lot more ominous.

Is it not the melody of "Who is your favorite fearless hero"?

Well that answers that, that was one of the first questions I asked because it sounded familiar. With no answer my brain tied it to beginning tune of There She Is Part 5.

Couldn't agree more

I dunno, Arcane is still bloody fantastic. Non-realistic animation only works for something either comedic or stylized towards simplification to the n-th degree.

@@o340 We live in the day and age when typing a lot can be seen as rude or insult... \*le sigh\* Well, what I mostly meant by "unrealistic animation", is the type of animation that doesn't respect character's anatomy, momentum, or just physical laws, in order to achieve a more expressive shot. Arcane has none of that, at no point characters feel boneless. I think animation has that sweet spot where you can do a "realistic" story that will be, while expensive, still orders of magnitude easier to achieve (Or even just straight up "the only possible way") than filming in live action. Arcane, Pantheon, some old-school god-tier anime, to name a few. Having it stylized is a great bonus, but that stylization still is grounded and realistic, if that makes any sense. Don't get me wrong, it's nice to see vivid fluid expressive animation, but imagine Arcane being animated in the style of animation that Puss in Boots has. It would feel just wrong and dissonant.

@@o340 I say the more diversity, the better. I don't really prefer grounded stylization or unrealistic/alternative physics in animation on their own, but they should be allowed to coexist. Studios should have the freedom to experiment and try out new things, instead of just copy-pasting the same tired Disney-Pixar smooth realistic babyface style. Unfortunately, because of the profit motive under capitalism, studios usually opt to just copy what the successful ones do, because that is generally the safest option. Hopefully the success of Puss in Boots will contest that idea, and also show that word of mouth promotion from just making a movie that's really fucking good can still work. The question is whether or not doing so is profitable... the 60M budget of this movie makes me hopeful, but I'm not one to count my chickens before they hatch.

Yeah tbh stylisation always captures me way more than realism in media. Even games that are very realistic are a bit… boring I guess. Stylised media age better too.

Indeed it is. I love the first to death and it will be my favorite childhood movie but this will be my favorite from my teenage years.

That's such a fantastic detail! Thanks for pointing it out!

This was an interesting detail I never realized. Damn dude, this movie has everything. The fact that his hat revealed Kitty Softpaws and Perrito, shows that he has had the help, support, and trust, to secretly show that he values his one and only life. Just fucking brilliant.

I also noticed a detail, but not that one. When Puss is in the bar, we see a shot of him through the mirror, on the left side of the mirror, with the right side being empty. Then, in the first shot we see Death, we see him and Puss through the mirror, but this time the right side is filled with Death. I can't really offer any good analysis or mindblowing philosophy, but still cool.

I never realized this until now, and goddamn that's hard as fuck.

That’s amazing! Do you mind if I ask what your husband helped work on/what team he was a part of? Regardless I thank him for helping work on one of my favorite movies in years.

This movie has so many details and interpretations that other people have caught, it’s crazy.

@jesspace Tell your husband ¡Muchas gracias! from me :) This movie is outstanding and every single person who was involved in the making of such a masterpiece deserves credit!

@@Kevbot6000 he is a previs artist and I think Dreamworks calls that their rough layout team!

@@hester234 thank you! I will certainly let him know! :)

Gets me every time. The other one that gets me is the “don’t you know I’m dead inside”

"BABY unicorn horns!"

ATF agents vs their consciences.

“YOU’RE AN IRREDEEMABLE MONSTER!” “Uh, yeah! What took you so long to figure that out, idiot?”

Nah, to me it was, “YOU’RE AN IRREDEEMABLE MONSTER!”

Fr, I was surprised when I saw the blood scene, i thought its going to be the Ol' Ketchup or Wine relief, but no Its an actual blood

@@fridaynuggies4191 Lego be like haha

The Perrito swearing bit was hilarious to me. The bleeping mixed with less profane insults means it's up to you to imagine what he's saying, which naturally leads you to think of the most offensive stuff you can come up with. It's hilarious to see such a kind-hearted, optimistic character come up with that kind of stuff, not just because it's unexpected, but because it actually makes sense considering his rough, abusive upbringing.

I personally thought that the crass DreamWorks we've seen in shrek one and two and even pib one was dialed down..honestly my only dislike about pib 2 was that the jokes didn't land like they did in pib 1

also puss saying 'holy f-' glancing at a kid nearby and just saying 'holy' again is great

Yeah, apparently stans hate it that Drago wasn't redeemed by Hiccup just because they learned a draft version of him getting redeemed by HTTYD 3.

" Dont you know im dead inside?" jack is so damn hilarious

Reminds me of TMvTM where the pug (forgot his name) is taught in the beginning of the movie to stare straightforwardly but fails then at the end of the movie he finally does it but still goofs up. Like how Perrito is taught to do the cute eyes but fails, then succeeds at the end of the movie but it still doesn't work lmao.

I would've been so mad if Jack gave into those eyes because then that would completely nullify his character and his character is just so perfect

"What a wholesome bag of vulnerability!"

I think the better twist is that he know that won't work on jack! He fully trust his friend that they quickly catch on and use the time he bought to get the map away from him!

And death only showed back up once he was getting cocky. It all worked so well. Death only left him alone when he hid safely as a nobody, or appreciated life properly as a somebody. The movie also teaching us that hiding inside and taking zero risks, while safe, is wholly unfulfilling.

If you watch the film's behind the scenes material, there's a lot of unfinished shots that have the painterly textures applied with no lighting or post processing which makes the textures themselves much easier to see. Seeing that every single aspect of the environment was treated with such care, something I didn't notice while watching the film because I was too caught up in the story to care, has made me respect it that much more; it's drop dead gorgeous

My paranoid ass who immediately knew the wolf was Death:

aw man, I got spoiled that the wolf was death before I even watched. I wish I hadn't known so I could've been properly as shocked as puss

@@klltsun_2576 Me too. Thankfully the movie was so good, that one spoiler didn't hurt too bad.

Exactly, when I watched the film, I picked up on a lot of these hints and thought, okay this wolf represents death, and then the reveal brought it to the next level

​@@simon_magus65ad same I was actually still giddy for the reveal to happen tho I picked up on it and I was still very pleased by how it was all done.

Death is nothing if not fair.

Fun fact the movie is super duper woke and conservatives are morons lol. The movie is an awesome woke piece of media lol

Death doesn't discriminate. It'll take your soul whether you're gay or straight; white or black; atheist or christian; man or woman. If that doesn't sound like fairness and equality, then I don't know what is

@@Black_Konoha as they say. Death comes to all and our only choice is to embrace it

@@Black_Konoha Liberal or Conservative, Dodgers or Yankees, Coke or Pepsi

I'm so sorry you've gone through panic attacks before. I hope you're doing alright❤

BRUH I LOVE LEITMOTIFS! I need to listen for this! This movie has SO MUCH DETAIL that I’m finding new aspects every watch! Such an amazing movie

The music do tied the hold movie even better, love it so much

I love the details 💖

This is a huge deal for the films made by dreamworks since How to Train Your Dragon. I really hope in shrek 5 they pull back from the pop music a bit. The custom music just hits so much harder. Also todays pop music is just blech.

@@goldenhate6649 Agreed. The Shrek 1 music is iconic and fits it perfectly but personally I’m not usually a big fan of pop music in movies.

Absolutely, fight death with all you have, but do so while facing it, not running away.

This is why I love Christmas Carol so much

Yea the starting week wasn't very good from what I've heard. But ever since critics, content creators, and people on the internet start giving this movie positive reviews, people start to get curious.

It definitely had a slow-ish start, but good word of mouth is helping it along. Plus, there isn’t much else in family entertainment playing at the moment, with the next big thing being the Mario Movie. And the release for the UK had also been pushed to February this year compared to US release in December, so hopefully that will give it a solid overseas bump.

@@jendoe9436 I'm super curious to see how the opening weekend goes for the UK release, I'm sure there's a lot of hype built up for certain demographics.

Avatar dominates at first till ppl realizes its not as suprising as first time. I think its really great at near ending but the start felt really slow. Also avatar has high "its not ending yet huh?" vibe at ending lol

Avatar got too many characters POV at once. And being a film sequel released after decades, making hard to remember anything details knowing Avatar series itself not making/keeping fan thriving. Avatar was known only for great effect too ig? Its like a spectacle soon to be forgotten yet to be revived again

I'd say it's just right.

Just like darth vader in a new hope but better

When are they going to give Oscars for voice acting ?

And yet they still managed to make him a compelling, memorable, and effective character even with such little time devoted to him. Incredible

U know its a good character when it has a small screentime but still manage to be one of the most memorable character in the show

That's why I've always preferred Dreamworks to Disney, despite their occasional rough patches. They don't shy away from maturity and/or patronize the audience like Disney seems to do a lot these days. There is clear love and passion put into nearly all of their films unlike Disney whose stuff feels kind of soulless/corporate-driven these days.

Disney had Encanto (was is 2021?), so it’s not like they were completely bad. They just had one movie miss. Tho it’s apparent Disney is going through a phase where they get one good and one bad, so I wonder when that’ll end. Disney has also cancelled some of its best animated projects. CN and Nick as well. I’m glad this movie exists, proving mature animated movies can exist during a period where animation is dying cuz of executives.

@@arcanejack Disney depicted some real stuff in Encanto. They didn’t “shy” away from it. They’ve done plenty of mature movies too. The artists in these studios are working hard, it’s just difficult sometimes when the executives censor and restrict and cancel things. Their president (before Iger came back and disney kicked him for being the worst) said animation wasn’t for adults. Which might explain why disney feels that way to you. Unfortunately, corporate meddling ruins things. Dreamworks has had plenty of cancelled movies that would’ve been amazing too (still salty they cancelled the shadow movie)

Fun fact the movie is super duper woke and conservatives are morons lol. The movie is an awesome woke piece of media lol

@@ma.2089 id like to add to that, disney gets one good, one bad and fifteen mediocre tv-shows

That's very cool

Damn, me too! A martial arts movie with this level of action and vibrancy? Sign me up!

Lucky you

This was announced in 2017 i think but funnily only necame relevant when pib 2 turned to be a masterpiece

That’s so cool!

Pixar and Disney Animation are essentially the same company at this point. They even had the same people in charge for a while.

Its almost like making use of the advantages of animation usually turns out good. Who would have thunk? (Not the media overlords, that's for sure)

Absolutely. The first time I saw the unique way they used those effects I was hooked and delighted every time after that when I noticed it more and more. I'm so thankful they mixed things up this way, it was so refreshing.

ooo thanks for sharing this perspective

Oh no! Looks like I’ll have to watch this amazing movie again to catch these instances!

Bro. This means I need to rewatch

He also only shows up when people are dying- that's how he tracks Puss at all. He shows up at the Horner factory after Jack kills the map deliverer, in the Dark Forest when Jack gets the Baker's Dozen killed, and only appears at the Wish after Jack's final henchwoman is killed by the barrier and Baby nearly dies as well. Jack literally let Death in.

@@NotAGoodUsername360 Could I get some more details on these scenes? I'd like to find Death in these scenes :0

@@NotAGoodUsername360 how do you explain him showing up at the beginning then? Nobody died when he was first introduced, unless you want to say he stuck around after Puss died the 8th time.

Broooo good catch 👏

I was already creeped out by that scene. Now, even more.

I'm not sure about profoud, but it's a definite visual tour de force covering usual parable ground.

I'm a grown ass man and the wolf scared the shit out of me.

bro I agree with your last sentiment, I was legit thinking the same thing. All the movies disney makes these days are shitty live action remakes with zero value and no soul, and they're only function is to profit off of nostalgia. It really is pretty depressing... 😕

I love watching Disney crashing and burning compared what others are pulling off

Are you kidding me? As an adult death scared the shit out of me. First time I watched it, his whistle gave me shivers

Great detail

*Baller* -I'm sorry-

BALLIN

Man.. could you imagine if they had done this artstyle with the HTTYD movies too, that would of been wild. Honestly though dreamworks is def one of my favorite animation studios. Among the big names they've always been the more adventurous even if it results in a lot of hit and miss, but when they hit they hit hard.

@@HyenaBlank Not only How to Train Your Dragon. Kung Fu Panda would work as well. They could even give like different art styles. HTTYD can be inspired by ancient Viking art while Kung Fu Panda by ancient Chinese paintings (or maybe old timey martial arts films). That way, each franchise feels like its own world. Its own universe. I mean Captain Underpants managed to translate the art style of Dav Pilkey well into animation.

@@HyenaBlank I think for HTTYD better fits overall realistic animation style, but for TV series and spinoffs? Go style as much as it can be stylised.

I'd love to see Dreamworks do a Psychonauts or Amulet movie.

@@mackielunkey2205 do you mean the Amulet with elfs and stuff(it was a while but in the last book i read the mc becomes a fire pheonix)

Also, another thing that worked against in the box office. Avatar 2 came out recently as well. Animated movies tend to do badly when released alongside franchise movies.

It was also in development purgatory for years

@@cara-seyun I was gonna bring this up as well. It was announced a decade ago, and went through *three* different directors. That's a huge red flag for any project, not just a movie. It's honestly a miracle that the movie turned out as spectacular as it is

Wait, you mean Zorro? El Zorro? Not Zoro from One piece, right? As a Spanish speaker I got confused when the video said Zoro and seeing it written confused me even more.

@@ekki1993 Yeah, I mistyped it. Not Zoro from One Piece.

"You wouldn't shoot a dog would you?" "OH yes I would, right in the face"

*cough* live-action Pinocchio remake *cough*

If they got lazy, it could be the laziness of their mid to late 2000’s works. See Shark Tale and Shrek the 3rd for 2 examples if Dreamworks barely tries and falls back on easy pop culture gags

@@Thomasmemoryscentral Thank God they put actual effort into this movie!

THIS^^^^

We're getting there, chief. Fifteen to twenty years ago it was still fashionable to call people nerds (which used to be a much harsher word, too) for playing games and even bully them over it, and any self-respecting girl would never touch either a game or a gamer. Cultural norms used to be like...these highly mutated highschool hierarchy rules, with matching values to go with them, but just as childish. Look how the things have changed. It is slow process, but we're growing out of stereotypical thinking as a society. Or, in other words, we've matured enough to realise that blind/insecure avoidance of everything "uncool" is pretty immature actually.

Mann I missed out. Just watched it on TV and I was like wow imagine THIS in 3D? This seems PERFECT for that. UGH busy life and movies short theatre lives

Does she use tiktok

@@homosexualitymydearwatson4109 being alone with thoughts is too scary

@@Emilia-gw8so and it stays that way if you never get to know em

I like the bad guys, but I felt the villain fell into the typical twist villain fail. Then this movie came and fixed that issue with the bad guys with an even better story + characters. Also, I never get tired of Death vs Puss final fight, it is insanely good visually and story-wise.

@@mythicaldragon4354 totally agree

@@mythicaldragon4354 the bad guys is all about its brilliant main cast and how they interact with each other, not the story honestly.

They were heavily inspired by innovative movies like Spiderverse.

I would agree, but the fact that the big bad wolf already canonically existed before this movie in the Shrek universe invalidates this one.

But she may not know that. And it was a cool nod to how the character feels about death. The bears aren’t concerned with death, nor do they understand who it is.

@@orcastrike7750 I mean previous versions of fantasy characters in Shrek didn’t stop them from being used again before

@@badbeardbill9956 that was a single instance with the 3 bears. And every fairy tale character has always been referred to by their actual fairytale name, that at least has stayed consistent.

@@orcastrike7750 The 3 bears also were in the first Shrek movie, but this version of them is a lot more complete. It's been a while, but I don't recall for sure if the Big Bad Wolf in Shrek is ever acknowledged *as* the big bad wolf. Death is certainly bigger and badder than him though.