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Putin’s top 3 lies: from Ukraine to the Second World War | Defence in Depth 

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When Russia invaded Ukraine last year, the myth of its military capabilities in the European theatre - still potent thanks to mental images of Red Army tanks storming across Eastern Europe in the dying days of World War Two - was shattered overnight.
But we should not have been so surprised. For years, Russia has distorted its history, contorted it so profoundly, that we, just like millions of ordinary Russians, can no longer measure modern Russia according to the most important metric: reality.
In this episode of Defence in Depth, Francis Dearnley, The Telegraph’s Assistant Comment Editor, examines three of the most significant corruptions of historical truth frequently proclaimed in Putin’s Russia, and their implications.
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@telegraph
@telegraph 9 месяцев назад
This week we are joined on Defence in Depth by Francis Dearnley, Assistant Comment Editor at The Telegraph. Listeners may recognise Francis from our podcast Ukraine: The Latest. You can find Francis on X - formerly known as Twitter - at @FrancisDearnley.
@petersuvara
@petersuvara 9 месяцев назад
Oh, the UK, so amazing, Boer war genocide? Absolutely disgraceful colonial history. Oh, but let’s listen to the UK version of history.
@RenegadeSound
@RenegadeSound 9 месяцев назад
@@petersuvara 'Bore' off more like
@moniranik5674
@moniranik5674 9 месяцев назад
Winston Churchill killed more people than Stalin by artificially creating famine. The great Bengal famine of 1943 is the proof of his atrocity. But British media will never show this hideous side of their leader.
@juanfervalencia
@juanfervalencia 9 месяцев назад
All that has been said here is true and accurate, but also very well explained.
@donkoh5738
@donkoh5738 9 месяцев назад
A really brilliant breakdown of the more accurate optics of our common humbling history in this production, sir - respects for this piece here. Quite possibly though, it was even as much as $250B in total combined US + UK material and financial Lend Lease to Sta'lin , during the great Molotov-Ribbentrop War 🗯
@peterwebb8732
@peterwebb8732 9 месяцев назад
What Francis didn’t mention, is that getting those Lend-Lease supplies to Russia via Murmansk and Archangel, cost some 85 merchant ships and 16 warships of the Royal Navy. Britain and America paid in blood, as well as treasure, to support Russia during that time.
@tumbletoes909
@tumbletoes909 9 месяцев назад
A story worth telling in its own right! Where are the movies?
@jonathanaddison2083
@jonathanaddison2083 9 месяцев назад
My father sailed on both the Murmansk and Archangel routes in the MN, so your point is well appreciated..
@djordjelezajic8435
@djordjelezajic8435 9 месяцев назад
@peterwebb8732 Of course, Britain and America waited to see how much can Russia bleed against Hitler,before they decided to join the effort in Normandy ( June 6 th.1944 ) some nine months before the war was ended in Europe in May of 1945.
@osher7788
@osher7788 9 месяцев назад
@@djordjelezajic8435 they were also in Italy and north Africa. and lets not forget the fact that before operation Barbarossa Stalin asked to join the Axis, and Germany just ghosted them. two evil regimes.
@AT-zk5ko
@AT-zk5ko 9 месяцев назад
Many of those ships the Norwegian Merchant Navy sailing under Britain. Of 3000 Merchant vessels 706 vessels lost during the war.
@Conn30Mtenor
@Conn30Mtenor 9 месяцев назад
Kruschev himself stated that the Soviet Union couldn't have survived without Lend-Lease.
@Castragroup
@Castragroup 9 месяцев назад
Why did the west destroy itself and help that eastern monster
@gdiwolverinemale4th
@gdiwolverinemale4th 9 месяцев назад
He probably also said the Soviet Union couldn't have survived without him personally
@davidwallace4665
@davidwallace4665 9 месяцев назад
Russia is invincible that nobody can beat them Putin stated. They won the 2nd World War alone more or less. He never mentioned the 8 million Ukrainians who fought for the Soviet Union alone nevermind the rest of the 14 Soviet States they could draw manpower from and the Industrial bases of all Soviet States. He never mentioned the battle of Britain or the Atlantic War. He never mentioned the locomotives, 400.000 trucks, 16.000 Aircraft, 15.000 Tanks, Oil, Steel, Rubber communication equipment, millions of tons of food, Artillery plus Artillery shells, even boots and uniforms. We should have let Germany smash them then we could have finished of Germany ourselves. Not a mention of the Air War over Europe by the allies. All this and we fought another War with Japan at other End of the War. Fascist Russia's 🐑 are brainless. Russia didn't even come close to winning in the Soviet Union but they think that undeveloped hellhole can beat NATO. Uneducated brainwashed sheep 🐑 who deserve what's coming and can only watch Ukraine become prosperous and rich. The future for Fascist Russia is not bright. Putin's days are numbered but is a normal Civilized leader going to be president of Russia next? Probably now we need to finish Russia of and double the Aid to Ukraine. Imagine us in the West if a Country of uncivilized genocidal savages was trying to take over our Country? Exactly but Ukraine is winning and will win with continued support and most of the West and World supports Ukraine until they win. 🇺🇦❤️🇺🇦🇬🇧
@simperous4308
@simperous4308 9 месяцев назад
So? Neither could England…
@joe_ninety_one5076
@joe_ninety_one5076 9 месяцев назад
​@@simperous4308 It isn't England. It is Britain, and the British are well aware of this and dont pretend otherwise. The point is that Russians do pretend otherwise. Not too surprising for a state that is built from the ground up on lies.
@bjorngrewe1980
@bjorngrewe1980 9 месяцев назад
Friendly reminder to all: Don't feed the russian trolls 😂😂😂
@madgavin7568
@madgavin7568 9 месяцев назад
They don't respond to factual information anyway, they scurry right back under the bridge to another comments section.
@Tespri
@Tespri 9 месяцев назад
@@madgavin7568 Truth, they always run away when someone makes informed response.
@altuspienaar7679
@altuspienaar7679 9 месяцев назад
...says the anglo saxon troll🤣🤣🤣🤡
@AlexYoung-iq6by
@AlexYoung-iq6by 3 месяца назад
Says the brainwashed Eurobot.
@pete7110
@pete7110 2 месяца назад
@@madgavin7568 yep ahaha, and love repeating the same lies
@darthsidius9631
@darthsidius9631 9 месяцев назад
British gave aid to Soviet Union too
@joe_ninety_one5076
@joe_ninety_one5076 9 месяцев назад
And British aid was provided free of charge, not lend-lease. That being said, lend-lease was relatively inexpensive in the end.
@darthsidius9631
@darthsidius9631 9 месяцев назад
@@joe_ninety_one5076 did soviet union end up paying for the help it got from lend lease act or was the debt forgiven?
@joe_ninety_one5076
@joe_ninety_one5076 9 месяцев назад
@@darthsidius9631 Mostly forgiven, but there was some repayment and some payment in kind.
@user-fl5vw9ol5y
@user-fl5vw9ol5y 9 месяцев назад
​@@darthsidius9631I think the last payment for lend-lease was done by Russia in the 90th or early 2000th, but I'm not sure...
@hopeforbetter382
@hopeforbetter382 9 месяцев назад
Best regards from a little Czech soul after 1968 Russian invasion of the Prague Spring!
@Sekir80
@Sekir80 9 месяцев назад
Waving in as Hungarian from 1956.
@user-bk1jb9qj6t
@user-bk1jb9qj6t 9 месяцев назад
Ну и как вам без советов живётся? Канабис в школах теперь обязателен?) Всех чешек приласкалиинемецкие работяги и не только приезжающие на выходные развлечься? Глупая советская власть пыталась сделать из вас равноправных, образованных, причастных космическим достижениям и большой науке людей. Но вы немецкая обслуга, ничтожества, привыкшие столетиями только быть пресмыкающимися перед немцами. Счастливо оставаться ими!
@hopeforbetter382
@hopeforbetter382 9 месяцев назад
@@user-bk1jb9qj6t the truth hurts but I’m still a the most fervent supporter of Ukrainian independence!
@shaemurphy8193
@shaemurphy8193 9 месяцев назад
Regarding the USSR's role in starting WWII - It was a great enabler of Germany & quickly joined in the invading of Polish land. And let's not forget the 1939 massacre of the Katyn forest in which 20,000 Poles were executed. The USSR is almost as guilty for WWII as Germany.
@adilabbas8628
@adilabbas8628 9 месяцев назад
But but but. Who started it. Thanks and goodnight
@davidelliott5843
@davidelliott5843 9 месяцев назад
Hitler is blamed for starting WW2 by invading Poland. But he had already invaded Czechia, Slovakia, Austria and the Sudetenland with no response from UK and France. The real cause of WW2 was weak government in UK and Western Europe that preferred to turn blind eyes to Hitler’s behaviour. Echos of that attitude allowed Russia to invade Ukraine.
@dangin8811
@dangin8811 9 месяцев назад
this is complete historical falsification. stalin was begging france and britain for an alliance against germany throughout the whole 30s. the ussr was almost alone in opposing the annexation of the sudetenland as an act of barbarism. Left isolated and in threat of invasion from hitler, he made a non-aggression pact.
@user-yj7um6hv1d
@user-yj7um6hv1d 9 месяцев назад
Honestly, 20,000 Poles is a drop in a bucket. That's like... one day of WWII. During the WWII daily casualty rate was around 27,000 people per day. Poles are also not the most friendliest nation towards the USSR. Understandably, Soviets might wanted to retaliate...
@joe_ninety_one5076
@joe_ninety_one5076 9 месяцев назад
​@@user-yj7um6hv1d The Soviets might want to 'retaliate' for what? For the Soviet invasion of Poland? For Poles not liking the Soviets very much in the aftermath? Crazy talk. No wonder Russia's neighbours, all peaceful people, are wary of Russia.
@uchicha666
@uchicha666 9 месяцев назад
Imagine how former soviet republics and other countries of eastern bloc had to deal with Moscow's idiocy for decades.
@proselytizingorthodoxpente8304
@proselytizingorthodoxpente8304 9 месяцев назад
Thats what Putin has been searching for. Another Molotov Ribbentrop pact that would give Russia half of Europe again. He was hoping NATO would sign it for him.
@iihastega5972
@iihastega5972 9 месяцев назад
@@LenserRussia was the main force to withdraw itself from the Soviet Union
@nicolasiden4074
@nicolasiden4074 9 месяцев назад
Only for russia Soviet Union is a glorious past, for the most of other republics the state was commonly known as "Prison of Nations".
@TheZombaslaya
@TheZombaslaya 9 месяцев назад
Exactly, why do almost no other post USSR states feel nostalgia for the USSR besides Russia and Belarus? (And I would argue Belarus' nostalgia is mostly a product of Lukashenko)
@commiemeth
@commiemeth 9 месяцев назад
​@@iihastega5972Ukraine and the Baltics the moment Gorbachev loosened the reigns, they voted out, no not the earlier vote to maintain the union, we are taking about the option that was given to allow the people to have time to think on reform, and they left as soon as it was viable.
@aletheiai
@aletheiai 9 месяцев назад
"All nations have personalities, some nations have personality disorders." ~ Sigmund Fried
@GARDENER42
@GARDENER42 9 месяцев назад
I wonder which one is the delusional, schizophrenic sociopath...
@dinner7513
@dinner7513 9 месяцев назад
And then theres the West, the embodiment of satan
@Silver_Prussian
@Silver_Prussian 9 месяцев назад
This doesnt make sense at all.
@aletheiai
@aletheiai 9 месяцев назад
​@@Silver_Prussian "All sentient beings have cognition, some have cognitive dysfunction." ~ Sigmund Fried
@TrueGamingVault
@TrueGamingVault 9 месяцев назад
🇬🇧🇺🇦✊
@GARDENER42
@GARDENER42 9 месяцев назад
@cobrazcd 🇷🇺 = 💩
@loganmancini8759
@loganmancini8759 9 месяцев назад
@cobrazcdnazi devil lover the Russian state is evil🇷🇺🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥👹 Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦 ❤️ god may the gods be with them🙏🇺🇦☦️
@zollen123
@zollen123 9 месяцев назад
Those who are unable to face the truths are weak in character.
@gdiwolverinemale4th
@gdiwolverinemale4th 9 месяцев назад
Those who seek truth do not watch DW
@mikek.1761
@mikek.1761 9 месяцев назад
Could anything from Putin's 2008 speech be misinterpreted as "Ukraine is not a state"? Let's see the transcript of that speech: "But in Ukraine, one third are ethnic Russians. Out of forty five million people, in line with the official census, seventeen millions are Russians. There are regions, where only the Russian population lives, for instance, in the Crimea. 90% are Russians. Generally speaking, Ukraine is a very complicated state. Ukraine, in the form it currently exists, was created in the Soviet times, it received its territories from Poland - after the Second World war, from Czechoslovakia, from Romania - and at present not all the problems have been solved as yet in the border region with Romania in the Black Sea. Then, it received huge territories from Russia in the east and south of the country. It is a complicated state formation. If we introduce into it NATO problems, other problems, it may put the state on the verge of its existence. Complicated internal political problems are taking place there. We should act also very-very carefully. We do not have any right to veto, and, probably, we do not pretend to have. But I want that all of us, when deciding such issues, realize that we have there our interests as well. Well, seventeen million Russians currently live in Ukraine. Who may state that we do not have any interests there? South, the south of Ukraine, completely, there are only Russians. The Crimea was merely received by Ukraine with the decision of the KPSS Political Bureau. There were not even any state procedures on transferring this territory. We have been calm and responsible about these problems. We are not trying to provoke anything, we have been acting very carefully, but we ask our partners to act reasonably as well." Let's talk about propaganda...
@gaoxiaen1
@gaoxiaen1 9 месяцев назад
@@gdiwolverinemale4th The people that want to believe lies watch Kremlin/Putin-approved propaganda TV instead of news.
@gaoxiaen1
@gaoxiaen1 9 месяцев назад
@@mikek.1761All lies.
@altuspienaar7679
@altuspienaar7679 9 месяцев назад
​@@gaoxiaen1a transcript is a transcript! How can it be a lie unless the translator is lying🙄
@AlistairSaldanha
@AlistairSaldanha 9 месяцев назад
When Hitler took Paris, Stalin sent him a congratulatory telegram
@nicolasiden4074
@nicolasiden4074 9 месяцев назад
When Germany and Soviet Union congerred together Poland they had united parade on the line they met.
@ctcole77
@ctcole77 9 месяцев назад
@@nicolasiden4074 When NATO takes St. Putinsburg we'll be sure to have a grand parade let by Adolf Putin's head !
@hansulrichboning8551
@hansulrichboning8551 9 месяцев назад
Hitlers tanks drove to Paris with russian fuel.😁
@ctcole77
@ctcole77 9 месяцев назад
@@hansulrichboning8551 Hitler's tanks drove to Minsk with Russian fuel.
@hansulrichboning8551
@hansulrichboning8551 9 месяцев назад
Maybe.@@ctcole77
@JaredHerbert
@JaredHerbert 9 месяцев назад
I love Dom’s weekly takes, but I have to say this is the best Defense in Depth release to date! Job well done, Francis!
@Idontwannahandle
@Idontwannahandle 9 месяцев назад
Mr. Dearnley, Please do Germany's failure to come to terms with Communist East German history...and its enduring legacy...
@hollister2320
@hollister2320 9 месяцев назад
Man hell nah, who is this nerd😂??bring back the other “bloke”, idek if I used that right lol
@user-co3uc8vt7e
@user-co3uc8vt7e 9 месяцев назад
If this is the best...
@NeilFH
@NeilFH 9 месяцев назад
its BS actually.
@joythought
@joythought 9 месяцев назад
Francis did a great job of calling out the lies that the Kremlin has been feeding the world to revise Russia's history and its claims to territory and special treatment.
@johnfranke1374
@johnfranke1374 9 месяцев назад
THANKYOU for this Played it for some friends For a new topic how about what happened to polish officers in the forest of Katyn??
@whenuakitekid
@whenuakitekid 9 месяцев назад
Propaganda!
@Pegasus4213
@Pegasus4213 9 месяцев назад
At last an informative interesting video that is short enough to comfortably engage with! Thanks! Most videos are way too long!
@palemedes965
@palemedes965 9 месяцев назад
Love history and its implications on the present and future. Great video, thanks!
@kentl7228
@kentl7228 9 месяцев назад
Some people seem to forget that China was at war with Japan before 1939, that Germany was at war with the British Empire from 1939 and that while the USSR fought in eastern Europe, the other allies fought in the Atlantic, the Pacific against the Japanese, the Mediterranean and Africa, India (including the brave Indians who are underappreciated) and the bombing campaign against Germany, without which would also have left the USSR vulnerable.
@SILOPshuvambanerjee
@SILOPshuvambanerjee 9 месяцев назад
Love from India. My granduncle fought in Burma theatre and went MIA.
@kentl7228
@kentl7228 9 месяцев назад
@@SILOPshuvambanerjee I'm sorry to hear that. It is strange in ways to have a thumbs up option to mark a good reply with the sad truth the comment reveals.
@robshirewood5060
@robshirewood5060 9 месяцев назад
Russia also fought the Japs and quite a few Soviet pilots were captured and brutally tortured and murdered.
@Silver_Prussian
@Silver_Prussian 9 месяцев назад
Yeah bro vunrable even though the factories of the ussr were moved to urala which made it hard for any small or medium sized bomber to reach them and considering that the germans didnt had a lot of big strategic bombers, makes your statement completely false.
@championknife
@championknife 9 месяцев назад
the refusal of Britain and the United States to fight in Europe is most likely connected with the treaty between Germany and England in 1941. It was also advantageous for England that the USSR and Germany weaken each other in the war. And England joined the battle when the USSR had already defeated the German troops and was advancing on Europe. The Hess case and negotiations with him, the UK was classified for another 50 years last year!
@deadrat7989
@deadrat7989 9 месяцев назад
imagine western media calling someone else a liar
@madgavin7568
@madgavin7568 9 месяцев назад
@@0240tutor Water under the bridge.
@madgavin7568
@madgavin7568 9 месяцев назад
And Russian state media doesn't lie?
@robshirewood5060
@robshirewood5060 9 месяцев назад
@@0240tutor Nuland, Biden, 2014 coup , Nuland also WMD lies
@TrueGamingVault
@TrueGamingVault 9 месяцев назад
This series is amazing, please keep making them❤
@Xoanan
@Xoanan 9 месяцев назад
Well done, Francis! That was really terrific.
@user-pj5tl5gf6l
@user-pj5tl5gf6l 9 месяцев назад
He done a good job on Putin's lies
@thebestof6862
@thebestof6862 9 месяцев назад
top 3 lies of the country itself : 1. Name 2. History 3. Ethnicity
@marcopalazzo9349
@marcopalazzo9349 9 месяцев назад
​@@oleksii000better a dog than pootin
@nicolasiden4074
@nicolasiden4074 9 месяцев назад
​@@oleksii000ahahah it seems russian trolls receive some additional rubles for aggressiveness 😂
@dannyboy-vtc5741
@dannyboy-vtc5741 9 месяцев назад
​@@nicolasiden4074rubles? Try kopeyks perhaps.
@RangerB66
@RangerB66 9 месяцев назад
Lol, fecking ruble worth one penny. Lmao. F*** Russia.
@marksnyder8022
@marksnyder8022 9 месяцев назад
​​@@oleksii000Truth hurting a bit Ivan?
@nikoforu
@nikoforu 9 месяцев назад
I had never seen Francis Dearnley before, only heard him so many times. I don't think someone can look more British than he does.
@JonasWaldmensch
@JonasWaldmensch 9 месяцев назад
Francis is supreme journalism ! 💜Greetings from Germany
@mikek.1761
@mikek.1761 9 месяцев назад
And as the supreme leader ... oh, journalist, he's trying to twist the truth. Which part of Putin's 2008 speech even resembles the statement "Ukraine is not a state"? Transcript of the speech: "But in Ukraine, one third are ethnic Russians. Out of forty five million people, in line with the official census, seventeen millions are Russians. There are regions, where only the Russian population lives, for instance, in the Crimea. 90% are Russians. Generally speaking, Ukraine is a very complicated state. Ukraine, in the form it currently exists, was created in the Soviet times, it received its territories from Poland - after the Second World war, from Czechoslovakia, from Romania - and at present not all the problems have been solved as yet in the border region with Romania in the Black Sea. Then, it received huge territories from Russia in the east and south of the country. It is a complicated state formation. If we introduce into it NATO problems, other problems, it may put the state on the verge of its existence. Complicated internal political problems are taking place there. We should act also very-very carefully. We do not have any right to veto, and, probably, we do not pretend to have. But I want that all of us, when deciding such issues, realize that we have there our interests as well. Well, seventeen million Russians currently live in Ukraine. Who may state that we do not have any interests there? South, the south of Ukraine, completely, there are only Russians. The Crimea was merely received by Ukraine with the decision of the KPSS Political Bureau. There were not even any state procedures on transferring this territory. We have been calm and responsible about these problems. We are not trying to provoke anything, we have been acting very carefully, but we ask our partners to act reasonably as well."
@Smiger00na
@Smiger00na 9 месяцев назад
Good presentation but for one omission… Whenever the Lend Lease program is discussed, the part played by the British and Commonwealth merchant marine is rarely acknowledged. While I recognise the size of the topic covered in a short video, this omission does an unforgivable disservice to the men that sacrificed everything in order to supply their ally.
@joe_ninety_one5076
@joe_ninety_one5076 9 месяцев назад
And British supplies were free, not lend-lease.
@robshirewood5060
@robshirewood5060 9 месяцев назад
Recognised with thanks by medals from the USSR to Merchant and other seamen which for years the British government refused them to accept, one of my relatives served on the Murmansk run and was always treated royally by the Russians, finally getting his awards from Russia in the 1990's. He was buried with his white beret.
@maggieliz1059
@maggieliz1059 9 месяцев назад
@@joe_ninety_one5076 Well Joe, all of America's lend leas supplies were also free, that's just the way FDR sold it to the people, who were understandably reluctant to get involved in Europe's 2nd nightmare within a generation.
@kilianklaiber6367
@kilianklaiber6367 9 месяцев назад
Let me just correct a few mistakes: 1. Germany didn't invade Russia in world war I. Russia mobilized its troops secretly at the border to Germany prior to the outbreak of war, preparing to invade Germany in concert with France.
@robshirewood5060
@robshirewood5060 9 месяцев назад
The Kaiser paid the Bolsheviks to cause revolution in Russia later to draw Russian troops out of the war, and take German troops out to the western front against UK etc, but leading to a Communist takeover against the will of the Russian people and much to their cost. That eventually impacted on ww2 and the Cold War, very easy to blame Russia for everything, but they did after all dissolve the USSR, and the trouble we are seeing today is down to Biden, Nuland, Obama etc from 2014 not Russia in 2022.
@Silver_Prussian
@Silver_Prussian 9 месяцев назад
Because germany was in pact with the Austro Hungarian empire which in tern was going to attack serbia
@kilianklaiber6367
@kilianklaiber6367 9 месяцев назад
@@Silver_Prussian Really? I don't think so. Russia conquered innumerable neighboring countries and never ever cared about their sovereignty. That's definitely a lie.
@davidbrancaleone3039
@davidbrancaleone3039 9 месяцев назад
Francis at his best! Well done, Dearnley. Crisp, top-notch broadcasting, supported by facts, clearly presented, and laser beam focus on Russian lies. The best response to purging history is to expose, explain, and set right for all to see what's plain wrong.
@Nick_S0
@Nick_S0 9 месяцев назад
Why do British men so much like to be brainwashed? Is this in the hormones? Francis is a lier and he doesn't even do his homework too well.
@NeilFH
@NeilFH 9 месяцев назад
dishonest revisionism propagandised narrow laser like cherrypicking of history to support todays NATO expansionist narrative. He may as well bleat, "NATO good! Putin Bad!'
@championknife
@championknife 9 месяцев назад
he didn't say a word of the truth, a Goebbels-style lie..
@rrmuf
@rrmuf 9 месяцев назад
Well done mr. Dearnley
@Kurtlane
@Kurtlane 9 месяцев назад
To anyone who remembers the fights of 7-year-old boys or is familiar with gangs there is nothing enigmatic about Russia.
@mkaustralia7136
@mkaustralia7136 9 месяцев назад
We should also correct the history books to show that VE was on 7 May 1945 when the Germans signed the surrender in Amiens, rather than 8 May when the Russian photo opportunity was staged.
@marksnyder8022
@marksnyder8022 9 месяцев назад
or May 9 when they decided to have their own day separate from the West, so they could pretend that they won it all by themselves.
@mkaustralia7136
@mkaustralia7136 9 месяцев назад
@@marksnyder8022 I read somewhere that the May 9 was a Timezone thing , but the source did not give enough detail to understand that. The times in Moscow and Berlin are not so diverse - unlike the date for Pearl Harbour.
@marksnyder8022
@marksnyder8022 9 месяцев назад
@@mkaustralia7136 They are 2 hours apart 🤔
@mkaustralia7136
@mkaustralia7136 9 месяцев назад
@@marksnyder8022 which is why the claim did not make much sense. I do not know (but think it unlikely) that the photo op was very late at night - which is the only way one would get a different date in Moscow
@mkaustralia7136
@mkaustralia7136 9 месяцев назад
@@marksnyder8022 Wiki says”Both the Reims and Berlin instruments of surrender stipulated that forces under German control to cease active operations at 23:01 hours CET on 8 May 1945. However, due to the difference in Central European and Moscow time zones, the end of war is celebrated on 9 May in the Soviet Union and most post-Soviet countries.” So the event was earlier but the ceasefire time was late at night
@a1176789
@a1176789 9 месяцев назад
Great stuff Francis!
@NartMakhsida
@NartMakhsida 9 месяцев назад
Excellent summary. Thanks very much Francis!
@johnbecker5949
@johnbecker5949 9 месяцев назад
Excellent! May I mention a point made/hinted at near the end? Putin's thinking, like Stalin's, assumes that nations do not cooperate, except in short-term, tactical ways. This might partly explain why he so underestimated the West prior to invading Ukraine. (To be fair, the West was hardly united or robust at the time.) Now is a time of questioning, with authoritarians beckoning. Realize the importance of working together.
@user-co3uc8vt7e
@user-co3uc8vt7e 9 месяцев назад
So a man leading over a dozen of different nations under single banner didn't think nations can cooperate. Interesting.
@crhu319
@crhu319 7 месяцев назад
There is no "West". Spain and Turkey take an opposite position on Israel & Netanyahu from the US and UK.
@stevenkraft8070
@stevenkraft8070 9 месяцев назад
I would also point out that by 1943, Germany felt compelled to strip the Eastern Front of a very large percentage of the fighter squadrons there. These were needed back in Germany and France to try to hold back the Western Allies' bomber offensive. This was a very significant help to the Soviets in getting air superiority on the Eastern Front, which they didn't achieve until late 1943, after theGerman fighter withdrawls.
@joe_ninety_one5076
@joe_ninety_one5076 9 месяцев назад
And most German 88's (anti-aircraft but also anti-tank guns) were in the West for the same reason.
@RangerB66
@RangerB66 9 месяцев назад
The western bombing campaign was focused on oil production, which ultimately grounded the Luftwaffe, robbed the panzers of fuel for movement and prevented the Reichsbahn from moving men to where they were needed most. The bombing campaign (of which the Soviets contributed not at all), was instrumental in hastening the fall of the Third Reich.
@marksnyder8022
@marksnyder8022 9 месяцев назад
The main effort of Allied bombing was to disrupt German war production. Germany produced 1,800 Tiger tanks and 4,200 Panthers under sustained attack from US B-17 and B-24s as well as British Lancasters. The USSR had very few heavy bombers. The US produced over 50,000 Sherman tanks and the USSR produced over 50,000 T-34 tanks while not being bombed heavily.
@dangomes4855
@dangomes4855 9 месяцев назад
Plus, Britain donated 3,000 Hurricanes to Russia.
@TheNoblot
@TheNoblot 9 месяцев назад
@@joe_ninety_one5076 Dr. Strangelove - Capitalists' Summit Part 1 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3h06B9OXmR4.htmlsi=D9NARbGBRBOuUlAd
@sawney_bean
@sawney_bean 9 месяцев назад
Uff that cold war hangover be hiting bad 😂😂
@AtlantaBill
@AtlantaBill 9 месяцев назад
Winston Churchill also said, "We know it will be hard; we expect it to be long, we cannot predict or measure its episodes or its tribulations. But one thing is certain, one thing is sure, one thing stands out stark and undeniable, massive and unassailable for all the world to see. We cannot see how deliverance will come or when it will come, but nothing is more certain that every trace of Hitler's footsteps, every stain of his infected, corroding fingers will be sponged and purged and, if need be, blasted from the surface of the Earth." Speech to the Allied Delegates, 1941 So, how is it the current British government is rehabilitating and arming those elements that Churchill said was necessary to blast from the surface of the Earth?
@user-gt6xj1cx7f
@user-gt6xj1cx7f 9 месяцев назад
Very very true!! It would be nice if the World looked carefully around: Cuban governors of 64 years have always acted like Russia. Most of Cubans live in deep poverty due to the totalitarian regime and its manipulation of the history, agravated by the fact that Cuba is an island submited by fear. Freedom for Cuban Political Prisoners! SOS Cuba!!
@marksnyder8022
@marksnyder8022 9 месяцев назад
And after Ruzzia taught Cuba so much, they scruple at sending their youth to be fodder in Ukraine. Tsk.
@kagolorichard3976
@kagolorichard3976 9 месяцев назад
Who ever says no to capitalism, imperialism has done nothing good to his people. Russia, Cuba china, vietnam, north korea, Iraq, Libya, Iran are all bad.
@Anastasia-sy2lo
@Anastasia-sy2lo 9 месяцев назад
Cubans live in poverty because of the American sanctions. USA is the world’s biggest terrorist and fascist.
@robshirewood5060
@robshirewood5060 9 месяцев назад
Much of the problems in Cuba were also caused by US sanctions and belligerence stunting the growth of the Cuban economy for over 50 years.
@arielsobelman
@arielsobelman 9 месяцев назад
Awesome series. I enjoy hearing Francis (and Dom and Roland) almost daily on their podcast - ukraine, the latest. I started listening early in the war and have rarely missed a day. It’s become my primary, and most trusted source of information on the war. I highly recommend it. I live in israel, a country with a huge amount of news outlets, podcasts and war analysis experts. Yet, I find none of the Israeli sources nearly as good and deep as Francis and the Telegraph team
@championknife
@championknife 9 месяцев назад
he didn't say a word of the truth, a Goebbels-style lie..
@martinireland6670
@martinireland6670 9 месяцев назад
Great series, wonderfully informative episode, as they all are. So glad someone is doing this and so glad it's being done so well. 'Russian logistics' has always been an oxymoron. One of the tanks involved in the storming of the Reichstag in the final days of WW2 was a British supplied Matilda.
@gdiwolverinemale4th
@gdiwolverinemale4th 9 месяцев назад
Most of those storming the German machine gun nests were Ukrainians. Some things never change. Stupid remains stupid.
@kristandevries4835
@kristandevries4835 9 месяцев назад
It is a horrible tank to defeat in some pc games...hard armor.
@AnkitChauhan-df8oc
@AnkitChauhan-df8oc 9 месяцев назад
@russianoccupant7383 Your username is very sus, but yeah, that's a weak argument. USSR, UK and USA had a common enemy, I mean if there were GI tanks or Brit tanks rolling on Russian soil to beat hitler, I won't be surprised.
@kristandevries4835
@kristandevries4835 9 месяцев назад
@russianoccupant7383 no no...ha ha 2nd WW, I was recalling for myself..
@mikecain6947
@mikecain6947 9 месяцев назад
Russia did inflict about eighty per cent of German losses.
@velvetmagnetta3074
@velvetmagnetta3074 9 месяцев назад
Russia? Or Ukrainian weather?
@philipjones9112
@philipjones9112 9 месяцев назад
Thanks largely to huge western logistical support and also forcing the Germans to switch massive resources and troops from the East to defend the allied invasions in Italy and France.....! Opening those two fronts was pivotal for Russia's success as well as that Stalin' was told detailed German battle plans thanks to the "Enigma" code breaking efforts from Bletchey Park !
@DmitryTihomirow
@DmitryTihomirow 9 месяцев назад
​@@velvetmagnetta3074, what is the "Ukrainian weather" like? Ukrainian weather near Moscow, near Stalingrad, near Kursk and Orel? Какая "украинская погода"? Украинская погода под Москвой, под Сталинградом, под Курском и Орлом?
@Grenadier1976
@Grenadier1976 9 месяцев назад
Excellent. Very informative. Well researched & presented.
@mikek.1761
@mikek.1761 9 месяцев назад
Well researched? What part in Putin's 2008 speech says "Ukraine is not a state"? Transcript of the speech: "But in Ukraine, one third are ethnic Russians. Out of forty five million people, in line with the official census, seventeen millions are Russians. There are regions, where only the Russian population lives, for instance, in the Crimea. 90% are Russians. Generally speaking, Ukraine is a very complicated state. Ukraine, in the form it currently exists, was created in the Soviet times, it received its territories from Poland - after the Second World war, from Czechoslovakia, from Romania - and at present not all the problems have been solved as yet in the border region with Romania in the Black Sea. Then, it received huge territories from Russia in the east and south of the country. It is a complicated state formation. If we introduce into it NATO problems, other problems, it may put the state on the verge of its existence. Complicated internal political problems are taking place there. We should act also very-very carefully. We do not have any right to veto, and, probably, we do not pretend to have. But I want that all of us, when deciding such issues, realize that we have there our interests as well. Well, seventeen million Russians currently live in Ukraine. Who may state that we do not have any interests there? South, the south of Ukraine, completely, there are only Russians. The Crimea was merely received by Ukraine with the decision of the KPSS Political Bureau. There were not even any state procedures on transferring this territory. We have been calm and responsible about these problems. We are not trying to provoke anything, we have been acting very carefully, but we ask our partners to act reasonably as well." Either he didn't research it at all or he just spreads propaganda.
@sparkcommunications2499
@sparkcommunications2499 9 месяцев назад
Fantastic episode. Francis' historical insights are always superb
@idk3ree
@idk3ree 9 месяцев назад
Fun fact: Aircraft from the lend lease programs has recently been found buried in a forest in Ukraine. Possibly believed to be British Hurricane fighters.
@runrau9275
@runrau9275 9 месяцев назад
Ya, but Russia says they just shot them down over the last 18 months.
@Keimzelle
@Keimzelle 9 месяцев назад
Fun fact: Aircraft destroyed in combat didn't have to be repaid. But Russia had to pay the United States (and the UK, respectively) for each aircraft that was still operational at the end of the war. This explains a lot of the tanks, trucks and aircraft that are being dug up here and there...
@sorinancuta3934
@sorinancuta3934 9 месяцев назад
Unfortunately ppl have no idea about history.it.s much easier to give likes to videos with cats and dogs...
@robertmiller2173
@robertmiller2173 9 месяцев назад
New Zealand and Australian forces along with British and Greek forces fought extremely tough battles in Greece, Crete, North Africa and the Kiwi fought right up to Trieste were they had a quick skirmish with Tito's forces in 1945. The ANZACs sent heaps of food and clothing and ammunitions etc. Russia has always been telling Lies. Russia is a Tolstoy Tragedy! A lie, wrapped in mystery, inside an enigma......Classic Churchill. He has given us some great gems.
@maggieliz1059
@maggieliz1059 9 месяцев назад
I went to the Anzac hill memorial in Alice Springs, NT. I love Australia and its people. Tough fighters.
@grundgesetzart.1463
@grundgesetzart.1463 9 месяцев назад
the West never lies. Have we found Saddam's "WMD"s yet?
@normanlaxton
@normanlaxton 9 месяцев назад
Excellent!
@Lizardo451
@Lizardo451 9 месяцев назад
Most of Soviet losses during WWII weren't suffered by Russians but by others.
@alexander8688
@alexander8688 9 месяцев назад
Exactly,. Per capita the Belarusussians and Ukrainians,Armenias and Georgians lost more than Ethnic Russians did. Historically speaking Russia has always been happy to use its minorities as Canon fodder.(similar to other European colonial powers but with even more brutality).
@wojteks4712
@wojteks4712 9 месяцев назад
Also, it is estimated that 5-7mln of those "casualties" were killed by Soviet regime during purges and by political officers. WW2 was simply good moment to report those deaths
@TheDavidlloydjones
@TheDavidlloydjones 9 месяцев назад
Stalin made WWII possible. A Molotov pact with France would have emasculated Hitler.
@BlitzOfTheReich
@BlitzOfTheReich 9 месяцев назад
This is just a straight up lie. Half Soviet losses were from the RSFSR.
@brianconnolly5649
@brianconnolly5649 9 месяцев назад
​@alexander8688 happy to let others die for it ? Like the collective west sacrificing hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians for its own ends
@marksnyder8022
@marksnyder8022 9 месяцев назад
"But we've got 10 minutes so let's have a go at it." No truer words have ever been spoken on RU-vid.
@dwl3006
@dwl3006 9 месяцев назад
Ironically, this video is the lie.
@knightsnight5929
@knightsnight5929 9 месяцев назад
Sure thing comrade.
@mikek.1761
@mikek.1761 9 месяцев назад
​@@knightsnight5929which part of Putin's 2008 speech even resembles the statement "Ukraine is not a state"? Transcript of the speech: "But in Ukraine, one third are ethnic Russians. Out of forty five million people, in line with the official census, seventeen millions are Russians. There are regions, where only the Russian population lives, for instance, in the Crimea. 90% are Russians. Generally speaking, Ukraine is a very complicated state. Ukraine, in the form it currently exists, was created in the Soviet times, it received its territories from Poland - after the Second World war, from Czechoslovakia, from Romania - and at present not all the problems have been solved as yet in the border region with Romania in the Black Sea. Then, it received huge territories from Russia in the east and south of the country. It is a complicated state formation. If we introduce into it NATO problems, other problems, it may put the state on the verge of its existence. Complicated internal political problems are taking place there. We should act also very-very carefully. We do not have any right to veto, and, probably, we do not pretend to have. But I want that all of us, when deciding such issues, realize that we have there our interests as well. Well, seventeen million Russians currently live in Ukraine. Who may state that we do not have any interests there? South, the south of Ukraine, completely, there are only Russians. The Crimea was merely received by Ukraine with the decision of the KPSS Political Bureau. There were not even any state procedures on transferring this territory. We have been calm and responsible about these problems. We are not trying to provoke anything, we have been acting very carefully, but we ask our partners to act reasonably as well."
@Angel_M777
@Angel_M777 9 месяцев назад
Great video, thanks ✊🇺🇦
@thomasstyan2066
@thomasstyan2066 9 месяцев назад
Well done, Francis. That's going to enrage the apologists for Putin's imperialism. #TrueRussianPatriotsOpposePutinsImperialism
@dangin8811
@dangin8811 9 месяцев назад
putin is good. stalin is good.
@SairanBurghausen
@SairanBurghausen 9 месяцев назад
@@dangin8811Enjoy hell
@DmitryTihomirow
@DmitryTihomirow 9 месяцев назад
Yes, real patriots oppose Putin. But this does not mean at all that real patriots support the anti-Soviet, anti-communist nonsense and Russophobia that flow from such deceitful channels as this one. Да, настоящие патриоты противостоят Путину. Но это вовсе не значит, что настоящие патриоты поддерживают антисоветский, антикоммунистический бред и русофобию, которые льются с подобных лживых каналов.
@christopherneufelt8971
@christopherneufelt8971 9 месяцев назад
If I remember well, after 15 days the Germans went to Poland, followed the Soviets, but surprisingly the allies didn't declare war to them despite the Rippentrop-Molotov contract. P.S. Propaganda hurts all sides.
@craigprescott6045
@craigprescott6045 9 месяцев назад
The British only has an agreement with Poland over German aggression.
@user-bk1jb9qj6t
@user-bk1jb9qj6t 9 месяцев назад
Прочитала комментарии. Ну что сказать? Все европейское и американское кудахтанье можно свести к русской поговорке:"Сам себя не похвалишь - н кто не похвалит")
@ino-1048
@ino-1048 8 месяцев назад
мнение раба господ не интересует, иди лучше помолись на фюрера
@psaint60
@psaint60 9 месяцев назад
Great to finally be able to see the handsome mugs behind the voices of U:TL. Always interesting to compare reality with the faces I’ve pictured in my head for months. Great stuff as always.
@vonryansexpress
@vonryansexpress 9 месяцев назад
If Britain had not stood firm in 1940 the German Army would have attacked the Soviet Union with incalculably greater force, and with only ONE front to deal with . . Our defiance and continued resistance in that vital year enabled the allied victory - without Britains plucky courage the outcome would have been entirely different. . .
@user-bk1jb9qj6t
@user-bk1jb9qj6t 9 месяцев назад
Есть хорошая русская поговорка: "Сам себя не похвалишь - никто не похвалит")
@branthurley2285
@branthurley2285 9 месяцев назад
Concise, snappy & most importantly informative. Thanks, Francis.
@Morgs914
@Morgs914 9 месяцев назад
Great job Francis. Thanks for the hood work!
@championknife
@championknife 9 месяцев назад
what putin said in 2008 that Ukraine is not a state..... there is no official confirmation of this phrase..... In 2014 there was no annexation of Crimea, since the initiative to transfer Crimea to Russia was on the part of the residents of Crimea and was formalized by democratic voting.
@johnnotrealname8168
@johnnotrealname8168 9 месяцев назад
Completely accurate. I find it ironic that Westerners think we are not able to propagandise. Crimea is the best example as every indication is that Crimea wanted to be independent.
@anoyingnomad
@anoyingnomad 5 месяцев назад
​@@johnnotrealname8168because that was totally not a fabricated lie like the many lies Putin had spread.
@johnnotrealname8168
@johnnotrealname8168 5 месяцев назад
@anoyingnomad It is not, I meant want to be a part of Russia. Polls conducted afterwards indicate this (Done by those currently opposed to Russia.) and even before the annexation where the people wanted autonomy within Ukraine but more economic and social ties with Russia.
@happyhome41
@happyhome41 9 месяцев назад
All these points are taken for granted by those with such education. Alas, only much repetition of the truth has any possibility of holding back the lies. Keep up the good work.
@MrStolboy
@MrStolboy 9 месяцев назад
all he did was spit western propaganda
@dasmin1135
@dasmin1135 9 месяцев назад
Putin's reality distortion field: Putin's might is all-Russian aspiration.
@djolivierastro
@djolivierastro 9 месяцев назад
Take your meds
@gottfriedheumesser1994
@gottfriedheumesser1994 9 месяцев назад
The Polish part of Ukraine did not belong to the Russian Empire but to the Habsburg monarchy from 1772 to 1918. It Was called the 'Kingdom of Galicia and Lodomeria', and its center was Lemberg (Lviv/Lvov). This part came to the USSR according to the Hitler-Stalin Pact of 1939. The German-speaking population was resettled to the Reich. I had a teacher who came from the present Czernowitz oblast to Vienna. The cultural ties of this area to Vienna were much tighter than those of Small-Russia (Russian Ukraine) to St. Petersburg or Moskow. The Carpatic Ukraine was part of Czechoslovakia and Hungary until 1945 and was simply taken by Stalin for his USSR.
@magpiegirl3783
@magpiegirl3783 9 месяцев назад
My goodness … the history of europe is so complex. So many lands taken by one means or another, contributing to generational mistrust, even hatred, of other countries. Ukraine seems to have been a central part of all the ownership battles … probably because of its resources and geolocation.
@Goe007
@Goe007 9 месяцев назад
Maybe this time they are learning but the hard way to leave Ukraine alone…
@gottfriedheumesser1994
@gottfriedheumesser1994 9 месяцев назад
@@magpiegirl3783 Northern Europe from the Netherlands to the Ural has no geographic borders but different populations which often changed. At Roman times, Germanic people settled in Poland and even in Crimea. Every 300 years there was an invasion of riding people from the east: The Huns, the Avars together with the Slavs, the Hungarians, and the Mongols. The Turks and the Russians (1945) were no riders but also tried to invade from the east. From Prehistory we assume that people speaking an Indo-European language invaded Europe from the east (Yamnaya culture) causing a plague disease and establishing the late-neolithic corded ware and bell beaker culture. So there have always been population shifts and people's migrations. But sometimes People's migrations also occurred in other directions as the Celts (from Central Europe) besieged Rome in 390 BC, and the Germanic Cimbri and Teutons invaded into now Upper Italy in 113-101 BC. Celts also destroyed Delphi in 275 BC and settled near present-day Ankara and were called Galatians to whom Apostle Paul wrote his letter that opened Christianity to non-Jewish people. In general, prehistoric people's migrations are now researched by DNA analyses, as there are no written sources, and there is a lot to do. Yes, European history is very complex and also differs from country to country. For Central Europeans, it is incredible how European History is interpreted by Russians. They believe to have defeated Hitler's Reich alone and the Brits and the USA did nearly nothing. Even their three-month war against Japan decided WW2.
@gottfriedheumesser1994
@gottfriedheumesser1994 9 месяцев назад
@@Goe007 For me, it was incredible as this video did not mention the history before 1939 which is essential to understand Ukraine. He also missed Stalin's Holodomor which killed millions of people mostly in the Ukraine by hunger more than ten years before Hitler's Holocaust. But Jews have much more influence on media than Ukrainian farmers or Sinti and Roma who were also killed en masse. Please do not misunderstand me, I am not antisemitic, but in this case, there is an evident discrepancy in the common reception. So I must say that this video did not mention several very important facts for understanding Ukraine. That is simply bad!
@gottfriedheumesser1994
@gottfriedheumesser1994 9 месяцев назад
@@magpiegirl3783 "My goodness … the history of Europe is so complex" - Therefore Americans don't learn it at college. In Austria, I had it all the eight years of 'Gymnasium' for two hours a week. But my knowledge is a bit deepened as I studied pre- and early history together with Egyptology after retirement.
@ChorltonBrook
@ChorltonBrook 9 месяцев назад
There are many estimates of those dying in the Holodomor as well over 5m. Has it only been Moscow downplaying the tragedy before now?
@johnnotrealname8168
@johnnotrealname8168 9 месяцев назад
Recent estimates are lower apparently. Also not everyone is convinced about the genocide moniker either, of course Russia has political reasons but Historians do not all agree.
@Rustycaddy17
@Rustycaddy17 9 месяцев назад
Kazakhstan suffered the most from this famine, millions of non-Ukrainians died during this period.
@Alex-lg6nz
@Alex-lg6nz 9 месяцев назад
​@@Rustycaddy17Only Ukrainians count, just like only Jews died in Holocaust and nobody mentions the millions of Slaves and Gypsies.
@ChorltonBrook
@ChorltonBrook 9 месяцев назад
@@Rustycaddy17 Kazakhstan suffers terribly from the nuclear tests even now too. Population dropped up to 60% but it had a much lower population than Ukraine. It's deaths included Ukrainians living there too (~36% of population there) It's induced famine is called the Goloshchyokin Genocide & happened a year before the Holodomor.
@Rustycaddy17
@Rustycaddy17 9 месяцев назад
@@ChorltonBrook The 1932 Famine hit every major grain harvesting region of the USSR. Ukraine, Russia (Povolzhye Region), the northern Caucasus, parts of Belarus and Kazakhstan. Ukrainian nationalists have attempted to present the famine as exclusive to Ukraine and therefore a "genocide" but every nationality suffered from Stalin's regime. Over 16 million Russians were sent to GULAG labor camps and 1 million perished.
@markblix6880
@markblix6880 9 месяцев назад
Best 10 minutes of my day!
@alumni2a692
@alumni2a692 9 месяцев назад
Excellent 👍🏻
@glowtech6536
@glowtech6536 9 месяцев назад
Ukraine was a buffer state. There are so many nationalities . Famine happened all over USSR , including Southern Russia.
@moonraker978
@moonraker978 9 месяцев назад
What, pray tell, is a buffer state?
@glowtech6536
@glowtech6536 9 месяцев назад
Ukraine as its currently was created by Stalin. After the Second World war. West Ukraine never was part of Ukraine SSR , it was part of Poland and Austria Hungarian empire formerly Western Galicia home of Stepan Bandera , Ukrainians nationalist who murdered over 200, 000 poles. Honestly i dont think Russia want to conquer the Whole Ukraine? Probably eastern and southern Ukraine.
@nicolasiden4074
@nicolasiden4074 9 месяцев назад
Including Southern russia where most of ethnic ukranians lived and were starved. And it still proves it was genocide against Ukranians.
@VsevolodSidorenko
@VsevolodSidorenko 9 месяцев назад
russian style excuse: look we murdered not only Ukrainians but our own people too, so we are not guilty
@joe_ninety_one5076
@joe_ninety_one5076 9 месяцев назад
No more nationalities than in many modern European states. No more than in the Russian Federation.
@Maioro77
@Maioro77 9 месяцев назад
My Uncle risked his life on numerous occasions on ships crossing the Atlantic delivering lend lease equipment to the Russians.
@joncumberbatch852
@joncumberbatch852 9 месяцев назад
Winston Churchill himself praised the Russians for breaking the back of the Germans and he also said Jaw Jaw rather than War War shame too often much of what he said is forgotten😢
@Anastasia-sy2lo
@Anastasia-sy2lo 9 месяцев назад
It’s because modern people lack knowledge and education, they sit on Tik Tok whole day and listen to propaganda like this video.
@JiTiAr35
@JiTiAr35 9 месяцев назад
George Santayana : Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it Vladimir Putin : I learn history and I will repeat it.
@dannydetonator
@dannydetonator 9 месяцев назад
That's actually de-facto plan and one of the top lozunges of Kremlin since full invasion. The slogan says "Mozhem povtoritj!" = "We can repeat!" in face of allied "Never again!"
@marksnyder8022
@marksnyder8022 9 месяцев назад
Putler learns selectively and repeats disastrously.
@mikek.1761
@mikek.1761 9 месяцев назад
Some people learn history, some twist the history. Which part of Putin's 2008 speech even resembles statement "Ukraine is not a state"? Transcript of the speech: "But in Ukraine, one third are ethnic Russians. Out of forty five million people, in line with the official census, seventeen millions are Russians. There are regions, where only the Russian population lives, for instance, in the Crimea. 90% are Russians. Generally speaking, Ukraine is a very complicated state. Ukraine, in the form it currently exists, was created in the Soviet times, it received its territories from Poland - after the Second World war, from Czechoslovakia, from Romania - and at present not all the problems have been solved as yet in the border region with Romania in the Black Sea. Then, it received huge territories from Russia in the east and south of the country. It is a complicated state formation. If we introduce into it NATO problems, other problems, it may put the state on the verge of its existence. Complicated internal political problems are taking place there. We should act also very-very carefully. We do not have any right to veto, and, probably, we do not pretend to have. But I want that all of us, when deciding such issues, realize that we have there our interests as well. Well, seventeen million Russians currently live in Ukraine. Who may state that we do not have any interests there? South, the south of Ukraine, completely, there are only Russians. The Crimea was merely received by Ukraine with the decision of the KPSS Political Bureau. There were not even any state procedures on transferring this territory. We have been calm and responsible about these problems. We are not trying to provoke anything, we have been acting very carefully, but we ask our partners to act reasonably as well."
@marksnyder8022
@marksnyder8022 9 месяцев назад
@@mikek.1761 In the 1990's he was vice mayor of St. Petersburg and said it. This excerpt is full of ideas that he has used to make the claim seem reasonable. This is Putler twisting history.
@kaylidington
@kaylidington 9 месяцев назад
Truth must be told. History is longer than contemporary lies. People (observers) should be educated.
@devilishdeed
@devilishdeed 9 месяцев назад
Ukraine is losing. Stop the war.
@lesleymckinney3716
@lesleymckinney3716 9 месяцев назад
Great commentary
@dtw4326
@dtw4326 9 месяцев назад
Excellent
@ronaldschraa9708
@ronaldschraa9708 9 месяцев назад
Pure propaganda
@user-ww4od4jl1f
@user-ww4od4jl1f 9 месяцев назад
*AFAIK nowhere does one have enough memory to write down a list of Soviet lies.*
@rrmuf
@rrmuf 9 месяцев назад
I agrée that Soviets and Putin both rewrite history to suggest that the USSR beat Hitler alone. The west sort of makes the same mistake however by under representing the Russian effort and suffering. So we are not immune to the practice of ‘whitewashing’ history. Having said all that, I think the world has become a much more transparent community and perhaps Russians and other authoritarian states are just late to adapt to this fairly recent phenomenon. Transparency is here to stay: adapt or face extinction. 😊 good piece. I am so impressed at the reporting from the Telegraph with regards to the invasion of Ukraine.
@gottfriedheumesser1994
@gottfriedheumesser1994 9 месяцев назад
Everyone in Germany and Austria as well as the former Warsaw Pact states sadly knows the part of the Russians in defeating the Axis Powers very well. Russian occupation is not so easy to forget. By the way: After the Austrian State Treaty with the Allied States of May 15th, 1955 the occupiers had to leave until October 25th. It was kept secret that one power did not manage that, and that has been the British.
@gottfriedheumesser1994
@gottfriedheumesser1994 9 месяцев назад
@@antonlopatinsky9154 I think that the war against Japan is known better in the USA as it is simpler and had fewer allies. On the European stage, the US Army first joined the Brits in Africa as a junior partner and bombing the Reich together and from Britain. Understanding the European land war needs knowledge of geography and history that not every American has. In the college, they learn American history.
@gottfriedheumesser1994
@gottfriedheumesser1994 9 месяцев назад
@@antonlopatinsky9154 "usually limited to the Normandy invasion." - So Americans have forgotten one and a half years of fighting in Africa and Europe. Severe losses in 1942 in Africa because of lack of experience and the military leadership of Montgomery made it less attractive, although the Allied entered Sicily in July 1942 and the Italian mainland in September 1943. However, the slow advance through Italy was not a great success as they reached the Italian border just at the end of the war. The Brits could only conquer Eastern Tyrol, Carinthia, and a few western parts of Styria.
@gottfriedheumesser1994
@gottfriedheumesser1994 9 месяцев назад
Any country that has been 'liberated' by the Soviets/Russians will not forget that for centuries. Believe me, I still remember the Soviets checking the trains at the zone boundaries when going to the British or American zones for vacation.
@gottfriedheumesser1994
@gottfriedheumesser1994 9 месяцев назад
@@antonlopatinsky9154 The crux is that Americans learn American history in college. World history started in 3000 BC, and the History of Europe and the Mediterranean is much more complicated. Take that even the outcome of fights between Octavius (Augustus) against Antonius and Cleopatra influenced American history as the Old World had developed differently, like a lot of other historic decisions.
@vulture7918
@vulture7918 9 месяцев назад
♥Err...small detail, but when George Orwell wrote 1984 in 1948 he had England/the West on his mind, not the Soviet State♥♥♥
@peterwebb8732
@peterwebb8732 9 месяцев назад
Good luck making that argument, Comrade.
@hsffaudioblog
@hsffaudioblog 9 месяцев назад
Excellent video, Francis. One to share with everyone. Kudos.
@AK-ej5ml
@AK-ej5ml 9 месяцев назад
The statement that US support for the Soviet Union is equivalent to $180 billion seems misleading: The US supported the Soviet Union with about $10 billion out of a 1944 GDP of $224 billion - that is 4.5% of GDP. The current US gdp is 26 trillion, so an equal share would be $1.16 trillion, so about the same as the cost of the Afghan war ....or 20 x the support given to Ukraine until now.
@Ls151000
@Ls151000 9 месяцев назад
Only this was 4% of the GDP of the Soviet Union, and if it were not for the USSR, the United States would have had to fight with the entire Wehrmacht of 1941 alone with petty Britain
@henrylee4856
@henrylee4856 9 месяцев назад
Yes, let’s keep supporting this war. Francis has done his part.
@minhng7208
@minhng7208 9 месяцев назад
Ukraine is not a legal state, its independence is unconstitutional, undemocratic,, the decision to break up the Soviet Union is not approved by 75% of the USSR people but decided by the heads of Ukraina, Russia and Belorussia in 1991. The presenter has no clue or just lies.
@rsrswamy2916
@rsrswamy2916 9 месяцев назад
Just propaganda.
@Zripas
@Zripas 9 месяцев назад
Yea, russia does like propaganda.
@Boxingreact
@Boxingreact 9 месяцев назад
😂😂😂😂😂, idk 🤷‍♂️ what history this guy is talking about !! However, Russia and Ukraine were part of each other for at least a 1000 years… they only split up in 1991 and it’s true Ukraine wanted to be independent in 1918 and in 1921 but it did not have the right to since it was part of Russia 🇷🇺. It’s just like Spain and Catalin and England , wales and Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿.
@VsevolodSidorenko
@VsevolodSidorenko 9 месяцев назад
Moscow was founded by Kyivs king. so russia is Ukraines colony.
@peterwebb8732
@peterwebb8732 9 месяцев назад
So America is still a part of England?
@philipjones9112
@philipjones9112 9 месяцев назад
Kyiv was already a huge city when Moscow consisted of a few mud huts bordering a swamp Comrade Clown !
@joe_ninety_one5076
@joe_ninety_one5076 9 месяцев назад
They were separate founder members of the UN in 1945. Agree that it is just like England and Scotland. Scotland got a referendum in 2014 and decided to stay. Ukraine got one in December 1991 and decided to leave ... by a landslide. Get over it.
@antong3208
@antong3208 9 месяцев назад
such a bullshit,Ukraine has its own history btw Kyivan Rus is not part of russian history) language culture that russia tried to destroy and colonize from russian empire and especially during Soviet Union time.Its a big myth that russian propaganda created
@louisriverin2295
@louisriverin2295 9 месяцев назад
Extrêmement intéressant, un gros merci!!!
@danielnovetsky6437
@danielnovetsky6437 9 месяцев назад
100% True!
@mrdruid1254
@mrdruid1254 9 месяцев назад
Does author has at least some knowledge of the topic or is he just reading English/Russian Wikipedia pages on the topic?
@Clive697
@Clive697 9 месяцев назад
Next, do a "western media's Top 300 Lies About the Ukraine War".
@edpink9724
@edpink9724 9 месяцев назад
haha i think theyre gonna need more than 10 mins for that one.. more like 10 hours
@Clive697
@Clive697 9 месяцев назад
@@edpink9724 Hey, forgot I did this one - and surprised it wasn't deleted by these propagandists.
@lucysarraf
@lucysarraf 9 месяцев назад
Love British journalism.
@bobs4115
@bobs4115 9 месяцев назад
Thanks for the fantastic report. Yes, I hear Putin's Russia is already updating children's curriculum on the patriotic Special Military Operation (don't say war) in Ukraine. Aloha from Hawaii.
@peterparker8116
@peterparker8116 9 месяцев назад
Well, I never heard Putin denying western participation in WW2, and there is no doubt that the USSR made the most effort in the war. There were no British or US soldiers on 8-9 of May in Berlin when the Red Army captured it. Does not mean that western front did nothing though, just not as much, look at the US economy through the years. The WW2 did negligible impact on it compared to USSR And still not rich soviet folk managed to make first into space in 1961, and at the same time in the US black people were not allowed in front of the bus
@henryseidel5469
@henryseidel5469 9 месяцев назад
Putin even took part in the festivities honouring American and British soldiers in Normandy. D-Day !! Still in 2010 British and even American soldiers took part in Victory parade on Red Square in Moscow. Soon after this a new type of 'history' must have been invented....and from now on the coming generations are expected to believe everything was different......
@samrands5967
@samrands5967 4 месяца назад
Russia was barely mentioned when we learned about ww2 in school in the US. Also funny to talk about the ussr getting caught off guard by the Germans compared to the British, who got absolutely steamrolled and haven't militarily recovered since
@edward6902
@edward6902 9 месяцев назад
As stated by peters in the comments…Francis is really good at this. More Francis please.
@maggieliz1059
@maggieliz1059 9 месяцев назад
Thanks for the video, I knew about lend lease to USSR, but had no idea it was those incredible numbers. Wow. Just Wow. The USA was, and is, a true production powerhouse. We really need to step it up to Ukraine, as does Europe, if we don't want another world war travesty.
@MrSupercampeao
@MrSupercampeao 9 месяцев назад
Ironically, the opposite may be true.
@markwarnberg9504
@markwarnberg9504 9 месяцев назад
We will never know the exact number as the dead remain nameless....but it is estimated that over 10 million Ukrainians died either directly or indirectly of the Holdomor.
@ramal5708
@ramal5708 9 месяцев назад
Don't read much, but does that number of deaths surpasses the Holocaust deaths?
@andybroomfield4041
@andybroomfield4041 9 месяцев назад
Great work Francis
@craigculwell9177
@craigculwell9177 9 месяцев назад
Great Orwell quote about the control of history…..
@christophermcanally1246
@christophermcanally1246 9 месяцев назад
Arguably Stalin was the 1st to stand against Hitler by aiding the Republic in Spain and first trying to score an alliance with France prior to giving up and signing the pact with Hitler. Check Stephen Kotkin’s biography.
@the-chow-hall
@the-chow-hall 9 месяцев назад
Well done, Francis!
@SS08947
@SS08947 9 месяцев назад
Telegraph...please do a follow up on Boris Johnson's top 300 lies.
@EvelynMaguire
@EvelynMaguire 9 месяцев назад
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@mitchellhawkes22
@mitchellhawkes22 4 месяца назад
Understanding Russia. "Let's have a go, shall we?" Uh, if Churchill gave up the project of understanding Russia, I don't trust anybody else has the wherewithal.
@realdemocracy11
@realdemocracy11 9 месяцев назад
The areas of Ukraine where a majority of people speak Russian should be provinces of Russia.
@studentloans2488
@studentloans2488 9 месяцев назад
Then according to the Budapest Memorandums of 1994 Russia should give their thousands of Ukrainian nukes back to Ukraine. That was the deal wasn't it? "Give us all of your nukes and we will never ever dispute your borders." Pretty sure this is the deal Russia proposed to Ukraine. Shame they couldn't keep it eh? And they wonder why no one trusts them. But yeah give them the Ukrainian territory anyways.
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