Putting a $50 Apple MacBook A1181 and a $50 Enterprise Laptop Head-to-head 

Those are not a1181 if you actually put Mojave in them

Gustavo de la Cruz dosdude puts out a patcher to install Catalina on these. I do the same a Sawg. I get these for cheap or free, add an SSD and some ram, and give them away.

Those must be a1342s

No I actually was able to use macOS Catalina !! In my 2009 MacBook mid

@Swag, I have a A1181, and I am curious as to how were you able to run mojave on the A1181 MacBook.. I do you know how I can at least run High Sierra on my A1181 MacBook? I would appreciate any help you can provide. Thank you.

I'm not doing a video on the T410 (I already have a couple on that model), I was just saying that it was a better option. Thanks! Glad I was finally able to crank out another video!

@@AAComputersandTechnology all good, happy to see you back nonetheless :)

I didn't state it directly, but that is in the tech specs at 9:01

@@AAComputersandTechnology Unreleated to the video but how's the solar system you built a few years holding up? Is it still running fine?

Not on a Dell, certainly not recent ones. There feels to be major differences that don't cut it for me, including bad palm rejection on the track pad while using the "trackpoint".

I dont know how to install on those old MacBooks.

Was thinking the same as soon as I saw that

I bought a near-perfect refurbished E5410 as well, put in an SSD, doubled up the RAM. I use it as a backup to my main laptop. It was about £40, I believe. Awesome value for money.

Which version of Ubuntu would you recommend? I have an old 2007 A1181 MacBook (White Polycabonate like the one in this video)

Ubuntu 18.04.4 LTS (amd64) is working well for me on an A1181. ditto on the multi-touch gestures. i did have trackpad sensitivity issues much like @7:50 & had to adjust Touchpad Speed to nearly the bottom.

@@udance4ever Thanks. Will try it out & comment on here after I've used it a for a few days.

@@twent10 hey just for the record, i installed Elementary OS today after watching this video. upon further research, 5.1 (Hera) is built on on 18.04 LTS & actually is less cluttered, has a cleaner look, borrows from Mac OS X (Spaces, Expose, Dock, etc) and actually recognizes Command key shortcuts! i do experience occasional "pauses" i dont experience in Unity desktop manager so Ill report back after I use it for awhile too...

@@udance4ever What is your configuration btw? Processor, RAM & hard drive specs?

Savage Sam i have macbook 2011 early 16gb 128 gb ssd. I hope will last few year more

@@rebelsdeveloper367 I just ordered one of those for $100. Do you enjoy using that device? Held up pretty well?

@@johnbeezley4647 so far good, because i already upgrade the battery and the osx is catalina. The only limitation is transfer file cannot use airdrop instead using manually connect to laptop and transfer file. No side kick also. The only reason i want this is no graphic card and using default intel. Usage practically high since this is a remote laptop I'm doing android/Xcode with emulator which needs high ram.Even the fan is 4k rpm the noise rarely heard compare then a6 9225 amd i bought last year and return back.. The money i got back i bought the macbook 2011. Weird.. true.

IntrovertedOtaku how does the e6500 work these days? Did you get a backlit keyboard yet?

Melvin Harris no that’s not so. I am talking about windows laptops in this instance not macs. There are a lot of machines for sale but I never see them going for bargain prices.

I mean, I can believe it. Used Apple products have a markup just from being Apple. What's unfortunate is Apple's hardware markup for what they sell, most people won't buy the highest end because of that, a $1500 gaming laptop will blow a $1500 mac out of the water. But the other thing is that business class machines have lower resale value (and tend to be reasonably realistically priced) purely because of how many are bulk purchased

If you really gave it some effort you could shop around and find even newer more powerful laptops that'd blow them both out of the water. The point of the video being you can spend the same amount of money and get twice the computer by avoiding the 'apple tax'.

They cost more than $50

Melvin Harris you are absolutely right, but there was a period i beleve early 2007 to mid 2007 that the gpu’s where good but when late 2007 roled around they used a black underfil and that caused the problem of the failure and that where the MacBook Pro’s with glossy displays.

Chancelor Collins not all i got one for 50$

Melvin Harris i had an early 2007 with the 128 mb 7600gt and it absolutely worked fine, only the later chips are faulty

I see you installed in on both. Nevermind.

I'm pretty sure that was something implemented in MacOS and not the Mac's actual firmware. If that's the case, our Elementary OS install should be unaffected by that.

​@@melvinharris7859 You find me a model of macbook past the A1278 (last pre retina model) that doesn't have a serious design flaw. GL finding a A1425 reasonably priced that doesn't have screen delamination. And 1280x800 for a 13" screen is perfectly fine, and their viewing angle and color is great. I'd really like to see the screens you're comparing it to.

I've a Xeon W3690 swapped 4,1 Mac Pro (5,1 firmware) as well. These are great

@@savagesam205 My Mac Pro is the dual 6 core model (in reality I should have said it was flashed to a 5,1). I added Wifi AC + BT 4 as well. Put an SSD (overkill due to Sata 2 ( although I should have done PCIe Sata). Good Mac for what I paid for it for its use case.

So here's what my experience was like. The first two years you'll probably just be doing mainly gen Eds and maybe two or three actual engineering classes and a few computer science classes. Though the engineering classes I took those first two years basically just taught us how to use Excel and Google stuff, we also did get to build model rockets which was pretty cool. The next two years are followed by a lot of classes that just teach you how things work in theory (resistors, transistors, circuit theory, discrete signal processing, etc..), you do a lot math (LOTS OF CALC and a tad bit of differential equations). I got one lab (2ish hours) that showed us how to solder and one lab that actually touched on how to prototype circuits in eagle. They never taught us how to build anything from start to finish .... I'm mainly a hands on learner, and to be honest I was pissed that most of the major consisted of busywork and theory, I struggled a lot because of that and I really didn't enjoy my time as an undergrad. If you want it bad enough, it's definitely doable as long as you are motivated, don't expect it to be enjoyable though. Now if you want to actually learn something .... get an engineering related internship as soon as possible when you start your undergrad, they pay well and you will learn more from one year of interning than you will throughout your entire B.S. The internship I had let me work part time (about 20 to 30 hours a week) so I could still do school part time. It may take you longer to graduate .... but if you have an internship that pays decently already, who cares... Also get involved in clubs that actually build things, I was in cubesat and once again I learned way more from that than I did from any of my engineering classes. Doing these things will also make you a much more marketable hire once you are out of college vs someone who got a 4.0 during their undergrad but did absolutely nothing else.

@@AAComputersandTechnology wow thanks ! I hate math and I am super bad at it . Is there any tech related things with no math haha . Even though I am Chinese . My math is very very bad . I hope I could be you . Your my inspiration

@@laptech3767 I'm not a huge math person either. If you hate math, then you're going to hate Computer Engineering. Computer science has a little less math. If you want almost no math in a computer related field, then IT is probably your best bet. If your the college has a Computer Engineering Technology program, that would also be something to consider too. Computer engineering technology is supposedly more hands on and less math and theory. However, CET's are not as sought after on the job market vs real Computer Engineers, just keep that in mind.

@@AAComputersandTechnology thanks alot for the information!

@@laptech3767 I'm currently taking Computer Engineering right now, but I'd say most of your first 2 years are going to be phyisics/chem and Calc I and II plus Ordinary Diff Equations (which isnt that bad since you have to take calc 1/2 and 2 physics/biology for computer science). however there is circuit/engineering things too like logic design, Digital Design lab, and signal processing, microcontrollers/assembly and later more Comp Sci classes like databases, OOS, etc. Basically a mishmash of Comp Sci. and Electrical engineering in terms of how difficult it is (unlike taking 3 calc classes and 5 more engineering courses for EE) 10/10 would recommend over electrical engineering especially if you want to work in any tech related field

I have a similar story to yours, just about 5 years in the past. Cheers.

Isn't the last supported Mac OS on that laptop is also EOL? Windows at least have a longer support lifepsan, even if the updates can be buggy...

Apple broke Elon Musk's email. Enough said.

hi basement dweller

@Xean Ball Ohhhh... hahaha. I didn't realize that this was one of those macbook vs pc same year videos.

I was not talking about software developers, I was talking about engineers. A lot of engineering specific software only runs on Windows. You are right about software devs though, a lot of the dev work I do is on a Linux server.

man makes me think CMU folks were masochists in the early 90s - i remember using Logicworks on 2nd gen Macs! DEC stations to fill the gap 😉 The humanities computing lab planted the seed w their token Win 3.1 pc...

So you mention being subscribed to someone for what would appear to be many years, just to in turn unsubscribe from them because in one single video they simply state a opinion that differs from yours? Brilliant logic... Nonetheless while I would argue you’re point about Windows and Apple having vastly different application focused goals is correct, it’s also not correct at the same time and becoming less correct with every passing day. Linux is a great example of this. In enterprise applications we both know how dominant Linux is. However in recent years it’s no surprise to anyone that as Apple destroys themselves through their own nickel and dimming money hungry corporate greed, and while Microsoft dooms themselves through privacy invading spyware laced Windows 10 that breaks itself through it’s own updates, the Linux platform as a whole has become vastly more recognized and supported as a result. This consequently leading Linux to be ever evolving to be not only more user friendly but also incorporating gaming support, audio/video support through a ever increasing support based of applications, and so on and so forth as people look to rid themselves of the nonsense Apple and Microsoft are doing and the software support for Linux skyrockets as a result. Getting back to what I mentioned before about how I agree with you that Microsoft and Apple have vastly different application focused goals, they also don’t. Apple proves this as they are trying to adapt to modern times with Apple based streaming services, gaming services, and in general breaking out of this self isolating enclosed ecosystem they have become known for having. Consequently as a result of them doing this they’re opening the flood gates of comparisons between themselves and all the other superior products on the market that they are now competing against. In the end you don’t have to agree with it but Apple’s user base is shrinking more with every year that passes. As a result they are attempting to pull in new users through software support that Apple wasn’t initially known for and consequently Braxton highlighting how out of touch and completely inadequate Apple is in this new era of computing that they are trying to compete in was spot on. This isn’t the early 2000’s anymore where Apple was focused purely on video and entertainment applications. Apple has to adapt to survive long term. The criticism they get from the software community is well deserved since it’s Apples own fault for undermining themselves much in the same way Intel has and as a result is now catching endless lashings from the tech community as AMD continues to run circles around them due to Intel not feeling as though they had to continue to innovate and try. Well karma is catching up with them and they’ve got no one to blame but themselves. Apple is in that same boat and the hell they catch for their poor software support is known industry wide and well deserved at that. As I said this isn’t the early 2000’s anymore. On a side note if you’re 42 years old you should be old enough and mature enough to be able to cope with someone having a simple opinion that differs from yours without feeling the need to immediately unsubscribe. If you’re that sensitive as to where a simple difference of opinion causes you to immediately burn a bridge and remove yourself from the wonderful subscriber base that Braxton has then maybe you shouldn’t be on RU-vid to start with because we’re all going to continue to support him and his great content. I’d reconsider and re-subscribe if I were you since you’re the one missing out in the end if you don't.

@@Henry5623 You must forgive me, Henry, English clearly isn't my first language and fear some things that I tried to say were a bit lost in translation. And I must apologize in advance if I do the same with this post again. First, thank you for your response; I found it insightful, not entirely correct, in my opinion, but agreeable, nonetheless. Respectful debate is becoming a thing of the past and that is something, I find, horribly saddening. Anyway, I didn't unsubscribe because of this particular video, it's been more of a gradual transition; however, suggesting that I'm immature for unsubscribing and for literally saying that "shouldn’t be on RU-vid to start with" is just a bit rude, not to mention condescending. I would never dream of telling you what internet services, platforms, channels, or content to consume. I can do whatever I please, as long as I at least try, to be respectful to everyone, as do you should. Even though we might disagree. And I'm well aware that by putting my opinion out there, gives license to everyone to comment on it, we shouldn't lose sight of being respectful to each other. I think Braxton is a brilliant young man, that's not going to change no matter what... much less a difference of opinion. The thing is, I've been gradually disagreeing with him more and more frequently as of late, so, I took the liberty to chime in; but my comment was never meant to be demeaning, or hurtful to anybody, I apologize if that was the case, to you, to Braxton, and to anyone else who felt this way. Perhaps I was, again, thinking in Spanish, and writing in English (Something you should never do, by the way :P), but I mostly agree with what you say. I sense from you a touch more mixed feelings towards Apple than towards Microsoft, and your passion for Linux, which, I agree, in any Enterprise IT environment, Linux is the dominant, not to mention more professional, stable, and almost guaranteed peace of mind choice. And even though what you say it's true, you know? about Linux rapidly evolving into a fuller, richer experience for the user, I just don't know why people simply don't see it as a viable choice... I speak about every day people, not professionals or IT Department managers or whatever else. I just don't know why... I have a theory, though... I think the commercial OSs keep hammering on that Linux is hard to use, hard to learn and there's no software for it; obviously for their financial benefit. None of that's true of course, but consumers are just not willing to take the risk. Anyway, here's the point I was trying to make... Let me start thinking in English so that I can express myself correctly, hopefully... I wasn't talking to or about people a bit, or a lot, more knowledgeable about technology, you and I are privileged in that regard. I'm talking about the every-person. That just want their phones to work, and work faster, their computer to run smoother, and more stable. They don't care what's in it, what makes it work, or how. They paid money, they expect the thing to work. Most of them expect them to work forever. I'll give you an example; how many aunts, uncles, or other family members have told you something along the lines of "help me with this thing". I bet more than a few. Personally, way back in the day, I used to have clients who brought their Macs to me with a copy of the latest OS X (that's a roman numeral 10, not "OS Ex", for you younger folks), and have me install the latest upgrade because they found it too confusing. Or when Apple started distributing new macOS versions through the Mac App Store, and the pop-up "Ready to Install macOS [Insert version here]" is coming up everyday for a month... they just have this fear that something's going to go wrong, and they don't want the responsibility, so they leave it to the "pros"... at least, that way, if something goes wrong, they have someone to blame. You know? I took some classes in the early to mid 2000's at Apple, in the old 1 Infinite Loop Campus, and had the chance to meet Mr. Jobs... he said something one time, I think he even said it publicly somewhere, he said about the Apple of the mid 90's that was 3 months from being bankrupt, that the problem with Apple was, that Apple had forgotten who Apple was. He was right. Then he focused on Apple's strengths. And here we are. I liked the small jab at my age by saying "this isn't the 2000's anymore" it made me laugh, and I agree! Completely! I wish Apple was more focused! I only wish! Cook has eroded most of the values Jobs left when he passed. Now it's a dispersed company driven by pure greed. I agree 100% with you when you say that Apple is losing market share, of course they are! By the way, I never disagreed with Braxton on Apple's out of touch modern approach to modern computing... I agree! The most affordable notebook they make costs $1000 bucks, and it's a mere Core i3, MacBook Air! $1249 iPhone Pro, anyone? Not to mention, that if you want just the most basic freedom, like adding a new GPU or more RAM, the MacPro starts at $5000 and the most expensive made-to-order top of the line costs upwards of $55,000. Want to add more storage to your MacBook Pro measly 128GB? Nope! Can't do it... they're capsules now. Deal with it... that's pure arrogance. Yet... interestingly, in my career, over-the-counter consumers (that's what I call them, I hope it's not offensive), seem to have less trouble using a Mac, than Windows. That's just me, and that's just one man's experience. The same can be said of Microsoft... remember Vista? That was Ballmer's arrogance at its finest. No Office suite for Android or iOS? That was Ballmer too... how'd that work out? Suddenly, Microsoft remember who Microsoft was... they are a good software company... To you they might seem less than mediocre, but make no mistake, when it comes to consumer software, they know what's what. Users LOVE that apparent freedom they have to use Microsoft Word on their PC as well as their iPhone, or iPad. All for a small monthly or yearly fee! (That's sarcasm, btw). They think it's some kind of witchcraft that recalcitrant rivals "allow" them to use the same piece of software on their "hate-each-other's-guts" brands. The truth is, neither Microsoft or Apple care about you, or me. They just care about money. I COULD go on... lol... but I won't... that's enough. Again, I'm sorry for my broken English, half expressed thoughts that I don't know how to translate, and I'm sorry if I offended you, or anyone else. Peace to all!

Yes mans gotta make a living

calm down there

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Which version of Windows would you suggest on an A1181?

twent10 my preference is always windows 7,however for others I would suggest running windows 10. Just make sure you get all the needed drivers.