+LogoSeven check inertial starter ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-q649rDWpoG4.html it makes sounds like in looney toons cartoons wih road runner and coyote :)
I am retired now, learned to fly went going to college, after I got out of the Marines, flew single engine Pipers around, owned a Piper 79 Archer and 82 Tomahawk.
+bobl78 It has internal air tank and when the motor is running it tops itself off. They don't normally have to use an external tank, in this case maybe the tank was on the empty side from long storage or uncooperative engine just consumed all the air.
Wilga is the Polish name of the bird golden oriole. PZL 104 Wilga was constructed in 1960, with first flight in 24 April 1962. Three engines were used in the Wilga: 1) russian radial AI-14R, 2)Continental O-470 and at the end of production Turbo Prop 3) Lycoming IO-720. In 2001, the company PZL became part of the EADS Group (EADS Casa, currently Airbus Military). In 2008 the last aircraft PZL 104MN was produced.
You had to remove spark plugs and then spin propeller to clean cylinders from oil and petrol. It's happens with radial engines due to oil in the lower cylinders. Lucky for you, that you avoid hydro strike. Also it's good idea to change oil in this type of engines after long stop.
j' Adore ce petit Wilga, voyant un long et encourageant démarrage bien sur! j' En ai vu un qui remorquais des planeurs en France! Merci pour le partage, un abonné français...
@@dwightstjohn6927 draco is based on wilga. Purpose was to fit powerful turbine engine 650 hp instead of oryginal piston one. Also wilga was mass produced in factory and Draco is custom made.
The Wilga PZL 35 is an extraordinary plane, extrem taildragger, Ringelpietz normal, nearly vstol, landing against the wind im Notfall über 40 Knoten auch quer zur Bahn, landen wie ein Hubschrauber. Ein geiles Gerät: D-EDDG
@Bla Bla you don't feel those forces that much, you just try to stay on the middle of the runway while taking off and to fly with your wings horizontally, that's all what matters
Yes,most of the eastern bloc airplanes with gasoline engines used air starters, sounds like an air drill. I fly a Yak-52 occasionally and it has an air starter. Look on RU-vid for yak-52 engine startup.
PZL-104 Wilga, rare variant called 80. Goraszka airfield, EPGO, good old days: not on the map anymore. Sebastian in controls, technician Boguś in service… best guys in class.
At the Air Force Museum at Dayton, Ohio, I saw a 1930s service truck, with a power take-off apparently used to start the prop planes of that era.... could come in useful even today....
A radial engine is like a beautiful woman. She wants to sleep with you, but doesn’t want to seem too loose and easy. That's why radials are always stubborn. As for the plane, that’s a goofy-looking machine, kind of like a giant insect.
Flew in one of these at a glider field in Latvia back in 1990. It was just a grass strip ,but there was a Mig 21 parked off to the side( pilot got lost?). It was a nice little flight - over the ruins of the Cesis castle. Certainly remains the smallest aircraft I've ever flown in!
They should have taken out the lower spark plugs and spun the engine through to expell some of the oil that was built up in there. It would have started much easier. Also should have used more primer fuel. Air starter was clearly gummed up with old oil.
I have fired a many P&W on our DC-3 hot, cold but if you don't have a good knowledge of radial engines. You'll find this same ordeal. But pretty cool aircraft.
With such Wilga we had the flight times of exactly 3.5 min counting from the start with a glider on the tow...going up to 300 m, "falling down" and landing. Have not seen other towing plane which could be so quick.
Haven't read most of the comments... however, the puff of smoke at the very beginning says a lot! First, this engine is notorious for oil consumption that today would ground any aircraft. The puff no doubt was a sign that oil most likely accumulated around the spark plug. It happened before fuel ever had a chance to get to the cylinders. It is most likely why the need to enrich the fuel-air mixture was necessary just to clear the fouled plugs. This is NOT an isolated incident. Engines of this type had VLT (very low tolerances unlike even the newer same type versions today. Rule of thumb... like they did back then... the cylinders were cleared and the plugs were then reinstalled. Much easier than destroying a starter on every start up.
Bill Yost All radials drain oil to the lower cylinders. Yes, if they accumulate to much then they have to be drained through the plug holes. If there was to much oil in the cylinders at start up , you would get hydraulic lock and bend a connecting rod . A damaged starter really isn’t the issue here, it’s the connecting rods. No matter how well you drain the oil through the rear spark plug hole in all the lower cylinders ,some oil will remain in the cylinder head with the valves . When turning the prop through before each start up to check for hydraulic lock , the valves open and have no choice other than swallow oil .After you clear the cylinders and you do start the engine , you will get smoke , lots of it . Hell, you should see the oil that will spit out the exhaust from what the open valves let in .So all this is normal here . Gee wiz,, what do I know ??? . 17 years of flying Beavers and Otters every day in Alaska helps.
It's a radial, that's what they do. When you start a radial that's been sitting overnight+ you have to rotate the prop to pump the oil out of the bottom cylinders which accumulates normally.
A damaged starter is not possible as there is not a starter on these engines...they start with compressed air. You can "crank" all you want until you run out of air, however, if it doesn't start on the first few blades you are wasting air. Stop and figure out what part of the equation is missing / incorrect; fuel, air, or spark.
Вильга любит когда руками винт ей накручивают. С первой попытки запуск не получился - вылез, винт покрутил, цилиндры продул и со второго раза запускается уже без проблем, правда иногда надо шприцём поддержать
Yes ! The "Wilga" (the polish female name of the bird) it was a plane fully constructed and manufactured by polish aero-engineers I believe in 70's, that means during the communism regime time in Poland. Wilga plane, received a popular name as "Aero-Taxi", because of its capacity for three passengers, and also especially for the short distances for pretty short take-off and also landing. I believe, that even up for today is still in production in Poland, but as a much modernized version of it rather that PZL [104-35]. Fly !! ...~ Wilga ~.... Fly !!
To nasza jedyna udana konstrukcja co lata i jest produkowana. Szkoda że kupuja ją inni a my wybieramy złom Cessna. Nigdy nie słyszałem zeby Wilga sie rozbiła Cessna non stop.
Looks like it's time for an engine rebuild my friend, so if this motor stalls in the air, you cant restart it without air assistance? How is that gonna work out for ya?
Does anyone know the manufacturer/supplier of the additional exhaust-dampers, as mountend underside fuselage?? I would greatly appreciate if someone could provide this info. Kind regards.
@@kamillkowalski619 Silnik był uruchamiany po długim postoju więc należało się spodziewać pewnych trudności. A Wilga to świetny sprzęt jak na epokę z którego jest.
