You're such a lovely family who deserves to succeed. You have taken the plunge and doing what many only dream of doing, and you're still young enough to do it. I wish you the best of luck on your wonderful adventure and experience. ❤❤
I can say with no doubt that you guys really have a strong bond and you really made a great achievement bringing your familly here and going through all the things that would make other people give up! You really have the resilience to create a great environment for your familly and you chose a great place! Much love ❤❤❤
Loving your videos, you’re both so down to earth and have a great sense of humour. I think you deserve a medal for that trip from the UK to Bulgaria with the caravan! I’m really looking forward to seeing how your new life develops. My question is do you have a vision for what you want to achieve in the house and on the land?
Thank you ❤️. We'll take that medal of it exists 🤣. Glad you enjoy us and our channel. We hope to keep bringing you great episodes that you enjoy ❤️. We'l take a look at that question for part 2 hopefully! There's so many to get through but we will try. Think it'll probably be a never ending special feature 🤣
EU membership has been a disaster for Bulgaria. Over the period since 2007 the population has collapsed by almost - 15%, from 7.7 million to 6.6 million today. There's reason you can find dirt-cheap property in depopulating rural areas there. The EU really has the anti-Midas touch. Everything it touches turns to shit!
@@GleeSmee as a Bulgarian, this could not be further from the truth! Since joining the EU, the average income of people has risen significantly and Bulgaria has seen huge improvements in freedom of speech, independence of the legislature and reduction of corruption. And thanks to Brexit, many families are actually returning back from the UK. Being in the EU has also attracted lovely foreign people who have chosen to make Bulgaria their home.
We love your videos. Well done to both of you. Lol you crack us up. We will be moving over as soon as our house sells here in the UK and can not wait. Alot older than you two but wish we had been able to do it at your age. 🤣 xx
Congratulations to you! To be honest, moving over here with young children really has taken its toll on us with no social family connections to help 💔. So maybe a bit older when the kids aren't so young isn't a bad thing. It's been very tough going! Glad you love our videos, thanks for commenting and we're glad to have you follow us.
Don't worry. Bulgarian is super difficult to master but you can learn enough by having basic conversations with locals. Most of the young people speak it. Most above 40 do not. Kudos for taking the risk and moving here. Your channel is one of the reasons that made me to start thinking about getting a village house and in a few weeks I'll start looking for one. Close to Sofia of course. Will be nice to have a retreat for the weekends and for some remote work whenever possible. A question from me would be: Did you get used to the roads and having to drive on the correct side? :D
Its a very hard language to learn! But we're certainly getting better with it. Awww we're glad our channel has made you want to rescue some of these beautiful buildings. As for your question, we'll look to awnser in part 2 ☺️
Repairing by you the house shows that you are a good versatile master. I think that you can start at first some work with Bulgarian building or repairing firm in your region and after that little by little start your building/repairing business in your village and in the close surrounding. This activity is well payed. More and more foreigners are come to Bulgaria and you can have great job knowing English, some Bulgarian and good knowledge of building materials and practices. At the same time you can continue with the work in you house and yard. I don't know how big is your village, is there a school and a garden for small children. The Bulgarians are willing very much their children to learn English. So your wife can possibly start such an activity in the school or private lessons learning only a small amount of Bulgarian. Private lessons are well paid. Good luck.
I think its certainly an option, and I have already done a bit of labour work at other people's houses which has been helpful. I don't think Jordan would want to teach English, don't think teaching is her thing. But there are many options available, working online really does help a lot.
@@frombournemouthtobulgaria Of course your Internet activity is already famous and looked with interest by many viewers. People are interested in properties abroad and the great work done to make your own house and yard more beautiful. Not every day man can buy his own property and his home. This is inspiring for many. Some RU-vid editors like you are including pictures from the life in the village and the region and some beautiful pictures from Bulgaria and interesting historical places to have a bigger audience. You know that Bulgaria is the oldest state of Europe, Plovdiv is the oldest town and the Bulgarians are from indo-aryan, irano-aryan and scythian origin and they have a long and interesting history. There are different possibilities to enlarge your episodes, the business and the income. Success!
Lovely people,great videos.Bulgarian is very difficult language to learn,but not impossible though. Wait for the children to start school.They will be your teachers and you'll learn very fast together.Yes,the food is quite expensive but depends where you live and where you do your shopping.Maybe it's a good idea to go to the open markets in the cities close to you where people selling stuff they've made (honey,cheese,yougurt etc). Anyway,cant wait for the next episode.Wish you luck
Thanks for a great comment 👍. We have been to the market and groceries are a hit cheaper here! However, sometimes we need stuff in the week when the markets aren't on and we haven't quite been able to get everything we need just from the market alone. You have to kind of shop at a few different places to make it cheaper all round 😊
You can use the land for raising your own crops. Keep in mind it is very fertile. You can check what your neighbours are raising in their gardens and pretty much plant the same seeds. You can grow every type of vegetable or fruit.
I hear you on the toddler breaks - Hudson is also completely feral 😂🤣 Also hear you on the stay at home mum's job (also working online!) Need Lee to listen to this so he gets my problem ha ha!! kudos to you both xx
It's all so very hard some days! Some days are great, other day are just too much. 2 kids, the animals the reno project..... work.... just have to try your best to pick each other up when one of you is struggling and take it day by day hey.
Just watched everything you had. Really admired the effort you put into renovating a house that should honestly be stripped down to just foundations. Some things are as you said but others are quite different. One example - in Sofia ( where I'm born and bred) life is at such a pace you find English lifestyle moving at snail pace. I suppose is different in the rural parts but if you bought that house in / near one of the big cities (Sofia, Plovdiv, Varna, Burgas) you would've said something entirely different. Yes, veggies out of season are expensive in Bulgaria but if you're smart you can save a ton if you buy from wholesale places in peak season. Now my info is outdated but it used be in low coppers per kilo the tomatoes, cucumbers, onions , peppers, potatoes and so on. Of course you had to buy in bulk(bags of 10-15kg each). Being in rural Bulgaria you have the opportunity to grow some yourself, but you don't have the amount of land required to grow enough to sustain a family of four. Think about going to Plovdiv (for example) to open style wholesalers at the right time. Also you need to learn how to take care of your plum etc trees and your vines. I don't want to get in details but ask your neighbours and they will happily show you the way. Unlike Brits, Bulgarians don't see(admittedly for the time being only white) foreigners as someone you should avoid. They will accept you in a way a Brit would never accept a pole or Bulgarian ( there is exceptions but so rare it's quite painful). As about the situation in the country - it's improving but it's not where it was prior to the financial crisis. The effect of which was felt really badly in Sofia post 2010. As the job market plummeted, a lot of people from rural parts swamped the big cities ( people born and bred in Sofia prior to 1990 are in the red books now) as there was nothing left outside of the main hubs. Watching this videos really tempt me to go back. Now having a transferable skill set with decent experience I would be able to have a nice lifestyle there. Problem is my Welsh partner is against the idea for the time being....
Really interesting, nice one guys 💯🙏 If you're recording off your phone like we do, dont forget to lock the white balance to help with the flickering 👀 we have the same problem and always forget about it so its not a dig! Just constructive criticism ❤
Hey! Thanks for that, so far I'm yet to find this option on our phones annoyingly, hopefully we'll have some proper recording equipment in the next few months fingers crossed. 😀
Great video and totally agree with you as we made the move to the veliko tarnovo region almost a year ago. Still haven't managed to get our 2 teen-agers into school so they've been at home with us for a year and I'm not sure what's harder, teens or toddlers..... Think it's teens! Anyway nearly there with the school thing but loving our quiet village life with new friends, neighbours and animals love the fabulous countryside 🥰
Awwwwww well done on your move, sounds like you're enjoying it! We've honestly struggled with the kids all day every day constantly. It's been tough going. Leo is now at school and Fae, well, we're trying again but its not going amazingly well. Glad you're enjoying your move and new life!
Just found your channel via Tiktok - well done for taking the plunge! You will never regret doing this - you may learn lessons but you'll have no regrets. How did you decide on the area and find the house? Had you been to Bulgaria prior to moving there?
Welcome to Bulgaria and to village life, enjoy the slow ride 😁 (me and my family are making the same move but from Sofia to village). Anybody will absolutely love being your friend because you are lovely, sweet people. And don't worry about the language, as soon as all of you start to mingle with us bulgarians, you'll get the hang of it. I don't live in you region, but if you ever need any help or just a friend, reach out!
Perfect watching👏👏👏When you swapping the old windows do not bin them use them on the top of your tomatos in garden and also you need some bigger water tanks to store the rain water for the garden,ive been in Bulgaria in 2003 i would like to see the beach over there again so if you will have time only for one day make some videos🙏Greetings from Slovakia
All those blaming Brexit for everything need to get a life. I moved to Spain pre Brexit, and yes it was super easy, because it was in the EU. I also then moved to Colombia pre Brexit 12yrs ago (I am still there), in comparison it was super hard. So those wanting to move to EU Countries are now only facing the same hurdles as people moving to other parts of the world. I really have no sympathy for the moaners, you want to move, do your research and you can get it done, don't expect it all on a plate for you.
Yup. I lived in Spain as a kid in the 1970s and early-80s(so before Spain was in the EU) and moved myself to the United States as an adult in 1990. Not easy, but doable.
Awesome! Very relatable. Let me join the parent complaint group. We spend the last 4 years work at home / full time parenting 2 trouble makers and we are empty. September our youghest 1y9m is going to the Yasla which will be our first (half)day alone since 4 years. Watching kids 24/7 is tyering and we are thankful that there are schools to do it for us. Stay healthy and enjoy!
Oh it's really hard work isn't it. Hats off to you. It really can just stick a big old stick in the relationship, everything becomes centered around them and that very hard to get through sometimes. To see the Light is difficult, but it is there...... paueintly waiting....
Totally AGREE with you 10000 % that Brexsh*t was the biggest mistake that happened to the UK. One of my brothers that retired from the UK Army who moved to live in Spain with his wife was telling me of how many of their neighbours, some who were even Brexsh*teers, got caught out after living in Spain for many years. One ended up having to go back to their daughter's one bedroom flat in Hull. Anyway, I would love to know about applying for planning permission to make a house bigger and take my time to do the work when funds becomes available. Any comments on that?
Brexit wasn't something we wanted, voted against it but at the end of the day, got to deal with the outcome don't you. Unfortunately that question isn't something we're yet to have experience in, in the future we will so hopefully be able to talk about it when the time comes.
@@frombournemouthtobulgaria fair enough and who knows, maybe one day in the future, the next generation might get a n opportunity to correct the mistake of this generation.
You can do a Lidl or Kaufland cards asnd then check for the baby stuff as sometimes they are on sale and really cheap. As I use to live in Uk in Kent, however when I moved in Bulgaria I wasn’t aware of those cards , however now I have those cards on my phone and check on daily basis the goods on sale so bare this in mind (sometimes stuff can cost 1 Bulgarian cent xd )
@@frombournemouthtobulgaria yep, I was checking the other night and the baby nappies are on sale in Metro, but if you register in Lidl and Kaufland u can check each week as each week different stuff are on sale. :) I hope it will help reduce some spending (hug)
Forgot to mention - wholesale open stalls places are called тържища (turjishta) на едро(na edro). Good luck ;) Btw you'll need a big chest freezer. Start saving coins for one :)
You forgot to mention "the pembroke rd cleaning company " who washes your towels from the massage place !!!!!😂 a mention my son and daughter in law!! ❤ 😂 xxx
I emphatize with Leo. When I was little we used to have a McDonalds in Ruse, and after it closed down the closest one was 2 hours away. Also, KFC for some reason hates Northern Bulgaria, as they only have it Varna and everyone else blows the soup. Have you tried Hesburger? I think they have a restaurant in Haskovo. It's basically a Finnish version of McDonalds but with a much more diverse selection of burgers. And kids meals, of course. Highly recommend it for fast food.
Hey! Thanks for your comment, appreciate you taking the time to chat to us. We have seen He'sburger but are yet to go into one! It is a special occasion these days I'd we ever hit a fast food restaurant! Which isn't all a bad thing really.
You’re very nice family and I respect your choice to leave your country and to move to Bulgaria. A lot of Bulgarians they are done this to move to UK how me too . But really start to learn Bulgarian this will be very big plus for you really believe me . We the Bulgarian are very friendly and helpful to people who decide our country to live . Be closer to your neighbours and they will help you a lot … Good luck guys xxx
Bulgarians have been very welcoming to us and we have had much help from everyone! Our bulgarian is improving, and the children are very soon starting school, so we're certain they will be teaching us haha. Thanks for your kinds words and your comment.
I was looking for part two of your Q&A videos but realized you've got just the 1. Here are the questions I'd love to hear you answer in Part 2 if you guys ever get around to recording it 1. Has it been easy for your kids to integrate with the local kids and do they miss life back in the UK? 2. Are there any other expats in the village where you live and if not, what made you pick that part of Bulgaria as opposed to Veliko Turnovo region where you have Brits in almost every village? 3. What would you say is a sufficient budget for a family of 4 to survive on (to a decent standard) in the part of Bulgaria where you live? 4. Have you considered buying old houses in your village, renovating and selling them to other expats as a means to make a living in the future. As you are quite handy, that seems like a viable option to make a decent living. 5. How do you combat the boredom that comes along with living in rural Bulgaria? Have you picked up any new hobbies? 6. Have you been able to find a support system to lean on? Do you feel like a part of your local community or still feel rather isolated?
Other way to save is if you have metro shop in relatively close distance ( it's a wholesaler like Costco in Britain, and again you need a membership for it but you can save a lot of monies). Living on a budget isn't a sin, buying from local shops charging three times the going rate when you struggle surely should be tho.
Guys, I just want to say that there are lots of take- away options in Bulgaria in the bigger towns, I would even say there is much more variety than in the UK. It's just that in the small villages, the situation is a bit different. Same with the opening times, etc. And also I just want to add that the way of life is soo different in Sofia and in the countryside. In Sofia it is pretty much the same as in London. People are rushing, they are much more stressed out and not as friendly as in the countryside.
They live in a small village. It's not much different to Britain. I lived in a Welsh village with pub being open sometimes and a petrol station with cost cutter shop. The nearest takeaway was in the town 8 miles away.
Also about the jobs, you can always find a home office job in Bulgaria with English they don’t pay super much but it will be enough for a village life. Also, if you sort out a … like residential card (not citizenship) and if you work the health care tax is paid by the company (if you pay yourself is approximately 25 pounds a month or less) but with the residential card you got free nursery and school also I believe the government give to each child for school like 300 leva (150£ ) in the beginning of the year for like help 🤷🏼 and as I know the nursery is well expensive in UK, also if you give birth in Bulgaria and u got a job, you have paid leave for 2 years 🎉
Great channel. I'm looking at buying property/land to live off grid. I got out from living in uk now im in bretagne france 🇫🇷. I go back to uk for work as im self employed in security industry so do lots travelling for that. Its hard to get work in bretagne as well as im in the countryside. As you say to buy property in uk is nyon impossible without getting a 5p year mortgage and so on. That was something i made sure i wouldn't get on the wheel of society.
The UK is horrendous for property prices, we didn't want that chokehold on us for life. Where are you looking for property, sorry its been a while to reply things have been pretty full on with everything. France sounds interesting! Have never really been properly.
We've lived in BG for almost ten years now, half of it in varna and now in a village 45 mins away and out youngest only started kindergarten, literally, aged 4 and a half lol, because she wlso wasnt ready. Plus a year was spent catching up on vaccines thst we missed during rona. Our first kid was 2.5 when she started kindergarten and thrn arter a few months full days so everyone is different. Getting some off time without the kids is veey important for sanity and productivity. About thr takeaways in the villages, we have one near by but it only opens at 7pm sinde Bulgarians tend tp eat later. Our village also has a restaurant, but you hsve have to call the place in advance so they open, otherwise theres not enough people with money to spend tp make it viable being open all thr time
@@frombournemouthtobulgaria that would be a fun thing to trying and happy to coach you if you fancy setting yourself up? In fact I could pop over and I’m sure it would make interesting YT content? Best wishes
Hi guys, my wife, 9 yo son an I are moving out permanently VT region next month with our car and caravan from Scotland . Can't wait haha. Question.how long can I drive o uk plates? And is it easy to register a uk motor in Bulgaria ? Cheers BTW love what your doing guys..respect.
I just drove there to VT a few days ago for a small holiday, it took 3 Days of driving with a good sleep between each day, but I did allow 4 days and if you have a caravan I would say more the 4 days target.
Hi there, lovely family. Me and my husband moved to the UK 26 years ago. Now we have 4 kids, ages 20, 17, 13 and 7 and the only reason not to be back in Bulgaria is the education system in Bulgaria. The schools in Bulgaria are not so accommodating for foreigners. Our kids speak Bulgarian but it is not to an academic level and we feel they will be struggling alot with the educational system there because it is very different from the UK. So, be careful on this front. Wishing you all the success because the lifestyle in Bulgaria is much more healthier than in the UK but when we moved out the economic situation made us make the decision we made at the time. Now with the online jobs opportunities it will be much easier to secure income which 26 years ago was not existing. Love your videos.❤
Interesting to hear about your personal experiences and the advice you're giving us. We appreciate it. We will keep everybody updated with how Leo gets on at his new bulgarian school 😊.
@@frombournemouthtobulgaria keep up the good work!! Some advice that might be worth saying.. maybe three 10 minute videos more regularly to keep people interested. Instead of one 30 minute video less frequent. I personally prefer to spend 10 mins three times a week watching a video, than 1 video for 30mins a week. You can pre upload RU-vid so if you have a schedule you can upload all in on go. But they get released to us delayed
@Jasmin-nm8pl Hey its certainly something we've thought about in the past, but when we uploaded shorter video people.asked for longer ones. You can't please everyone unfortunately and we do release an episode every 2 weeks now 😊.
What a honest Q and A. Thought you were going to have a domestic. One thing that is cheaper is council tax, I pay about £30 a year. One thing I don’t like are the insects.
Absolutely right! There are lots of things that are cheaper just think the question was aimed at building materials so we didn't delve into too much. Really glad you enjoyed the Q and A. The domestic was very close 🤣🤣🤣
We in Bulgaria are like that when we need a effort to done something we can use 100% and totally drain the energy out of us but when is not required we don’t like to do extra work for our boss that’s why when I started working abroad in England on field is not English man cutting off the crops they are Romanian people , Bulgarian people Polish people because we can work really hard without break or day off and too many Bulgarians are capable to do a lot but we are all over the place of the globe but not in the area we suppose to be
I just wanted to ask how your family feel now you have left the UK? Are the grandparents missing the little ones? We were the opposite, grandparents in Bulgaria, and never planned to come back but missed the little ones too much. I'd love to know how it works the other way? Sue
Hi Guys, How long have you been here now? It looks like most if your videos are from last summer. So, how was winter ? It wasn't a particularly hard one , but did you manage ok, did you have enough wood to keep warm. I know you have mains water, but do you have a well on the property? It would be good to get that in order if you do. It's a godsend if there is a problem with the mains. And you can water the garden, almost for free. And, think about getting a small generator, just in case, well worthwhile. I think you're adjusting very well to the slower pace. Remember just moving from town to rural life in England is a big change for many. We've always been countryfolk, so that side of it was not too different. And remember, where the Spanish have mañana (tomorrow ),the Bulgarians have вдругиден(day after tomorrow)...maybe!!! Go with the flow, relax and enjoy. Jordan, if you do get your pony and I hope you do. The standard of farriers it not what it is in England. I don't shoe my horse, but have learnt to barefoot trim her feet. Brexit: We moved before, and luckily our 5 years temporary residency was already behind us. But , we still had to exchange cards and jump through some more hoops because of it. Also, it's much harder to get anything delivered from the uk now without lots of customs paperwork ( in Bulgarian). If you do buy online try to stick within Europe, like Amazon.de for instance. I can't believe so many Brits voted for it. Maybe that's one of the reasons we wanted to live here and not be surrounded by that mindset. Are you enjoying the darker skies? We love the stars, the moon and being able to see the milky way. Have fun, and enjoy the adventure.❤
Hey! Yes we've been here for around 1 year and a half now. Winter was mild, it didn't get worse than -7 where we are, but still....was cold enough with only single pane windows. It looks like we'll have single pane for the upcoming winter again, so will likely be a cold one for us still. We don't have a well on the property unfortunately but we hope to in the future have a well or a bore hole, we will have to see what our finances are saying come the time. We're hoping to get solar installed in the next few years, which should be really good for any power cuts that take place, a generator isnt a bad shout though! We have no doubt that jordan will get her horse haha! It will happen otherwise she'll move back to England. The stars out here are just incredible and seeing the milkyway is fantastic! thanks for commenting, sorry it's taken a while to get back to you :) Working through all the comments today.
How long did you research different areas in Bulgaria before you choose your village and would you consider potentially moving to a different area, when you learn more about the country?.
Hi there, how did you organise a translator for your son? We bought a house in Studenta too and would potentially send our daughter to a school if she had some assistance settling in. Thank you.
What's law with bringing in UK vehicles? Can you register them in Bulgaria? I've got a motorhome looking at driving it over to buy property and use it as my base till house built. Then travel in cold season
after 3 months you're supposed to change the plates however, we haven't yet and we have no problems. But you will have to ay duty tax on whatever they value your vehicle at when they change the plates over. One reason why we haven't gotten it done just yet.
Why did you move to Bulgaria in particular? Sorry if you answered it in the video I missed it. I'm just wondering why so many Brits are moving to Bulgaria out of all countries. I get it properties are cheaper there than the UK but there are plenty of countries with cheap properties, e.g. Greece, which are better off than Bulgaria in some aspects. Is there something about Bulgaria in particular which is attractive to Brits?
Some people prefer a 4 season country with cooler winters, Greece and Spain for example tend to stay warm all year round which doesn't suit everyone. Hope this helps answer your question!
@@ourlittleeden My comment didn't age well. I posted it before I heard of all the wildfires in Greece. Anyway, it hadn't come to my mind that somebody might like Bulgaria's climate in particular. I live in Malta, which is supposed to be warmer than Spain and Greece, and the winters are cold enough for me.
Learn to be laid back like the locals youll live longer and be far less stressed. UK when you return youll find noisy and you feel like you have to run everywhere .
You can be in the UK and struggle to integrate only my opinion and I think that card you have is a bit out of date 😂as we are not part of the EU anymore so please check that out. Love Faith she is a child after my own heart 😂 says alot about me 😂 xxxx
@@frombournemouthtobulgaria the EHIC or GHIC as it is now called, is only for use on holidays rather than if you reside there, though in 2007 when Bulgaria joined the EU dr's always asked for them as they were very misunderstood. The national health system can be excellent, with blood and other test results coming back the same day and being seen the same day, the national insurance scheme is a very low monthly payment, but you still usually need to pay around 4 leva to see a GP - weirdly!
@@nikkiweeksy2487yep you need to pay a fee to see a GP but at least you can meet them right away , or call them in case of emergency and that’s good as I never met my GP in UK , was easier to go to ER instead
Argh decent nappies are expensive i guess because pampers are imported, there are cheaper nappies but i dont know if youvr tried them but they are pretty useless 😂
We've tried some of the cheaper ones and they are awful lol. Sometimes lidls have offers on and you can get them half price but usually were paying around 15 levs a pack.
@@sarahknight118 sorry , what I said is about the welcoming thingy as we rarely go to meet the neighbours and give them like cake or whatever xd we just start sayin “hello” by the fence randomly if it’s not awkward xd. My village is kinda big and we have neighbours closely and we even hear each other but their village doesn’t look that big Once again sorry for misunderstanding but here is a bit late maybe I couldn’t read the comment properly (hug)
@r.a.3984 No problem. I remember when driving to Bansko, there were these lovely little houses just dotted miles apart and I remember thinking I wonder if it would be blissful or lonely to live that distance apart 🙂
Good choice guys but don't think if you pay NI will be free. The Bulgarian health system is shit, you pay to be seen by a doctor no matter paying NI or not, the system is made to take your money...not to care about you. Bear in mind that you're paying for any service (plumbing, electrician..etc) double then the usual. That's what Bulgarians are, if they see an opportunity to takemuch is possible from you...be sure they do it, only because you are foreign and don't have any clue. |But good choice, don't know which part of Bulgaria you are but as a country is amazing. If I can help with anything don't hesitate to contact me. Good luck.
We currently have jobs now. This post is a little old. Jordan works for a digital marketing agency and I'm still focus on social media for this channel and the episodes along with renovating, we're in a much nicer position than a year ago.
@deeallen4726 we stick with our values, and won't not speak about things that directly affect our lives. That's not the real world. We're speaking on a topic that has a direct effect, and a question that is asked almost daily to us. Important to cover it.
@@frombournemouthtobulgaria thank you for this, I am a Bulgarian who moved to the UK. My boyfriend actually voted brexit but that was years before we met and I still remind him month how STUUUUUPID he was for that
😂 made me laugh about the closed doors Jordan - it's so hard to work out if a shop is a shop and then once you've worked out whether it is one/what it sells you have to work out if it's open 🤣🫣
