My friend who did time in a SoCal prison was molested as a kid, he says it's revenge: he said prisoners who've been molested as kids see molesters in prison as the one that molested them when they were kids. This may not be all prisoner's reason but seeing the high rate of males who've been molested as kids, it certainly is a reason for many.
Shaun, your resilience is superhuman. Having endured some of the worst imaginable conditions in prison, you prevailed and somehow guarded the dignity of human life. How grateful I am, for your writings, your example, your existence. Thank you. I would like to ask a question, regarding the treatment of animal abusers in prison. You mentioned only that crimes against women and children are shunned, and I am wondering whether animal abusers have to endure any verbal or physical mistreatment from the gangs.
In the next town over from me the former Chief of Police was arrested for raping a cow. They took him down to the station & looked up what to charge him for & there was no law against in my state. He went free, but now my state has a law against it.
I think the point is that we need to find ways to get kids in that situation out of it before they could potentially complete the cycle and become a sex offender themselves.
@@Jason-er1vf Absolutely but unfortunately our social services are rubbish and at the cost of these children’s lives SS actively work to keep families however dysfunctional together (it means less aggro for them now but in the long run when these kids grow older they can be a burden on the prison/mental health system and on other people’s lives that they influence/inflict their own chaotic personalities on).
@@icephoenix1024 No. Just because a person may have been abused does not absolve that person of blame if that person has gone on to abuse children... it certainly does not make it understandable or justifiable. It is not an excuse. There is no excuse for this.
Prison is so screwed, it’s a mix of people who did bad things but need help and people who do bad thing s for the pure purpose of hurting others. They need to be separated.
I seen you on banged up abroad and am really interested in prison culture and the hardships and stories behind prisoners, so I am in love with your channel. So glad I found it!
As a sex offender (based off of a bunch of lies), this is why I always stay close to a deadly weapon. Nobody is going to feel sorry for me when I get beaten up or stabbed so don't expect me to feel sorry for the person confronting me about a charge that he/she had nothing to do with. Everybody just needs to mind their own business and protect their own family.🤷🏾♂️
It's difficult to determine whether sex offenders actually have a history of being abused. There are quite a few instances where they claim to be abused as a way of getting sympathy to try and get a more lenient sentence or just as a justification for their actions.
I worked in the big mainstream Prison here as a volunteer and i worked with ALL types of prisoners...i escorted sex offenders out of the prison for therapy sessions..me alone with these guys in my car...yes...and i took the opportunity to talk to these guys about their offending and how they have changed that victims life forever...taken their innocence and given them such an awful pain...most of these guys said THEY were the victim and that the victim seduced them...they showed no remorse and told me they would reoffend as soon as they got out..even one guy who had been medically castrated...he told me he would go and look for a child to rape as soon as he was OUT....and ten years later thats EXACTLY what he did...these people are SCUM and deserve all they get..they have no compasaion, care, remorse for the victim...they only think of their own desires...they are dusgusting..and should pay for what they do..
big fan of you shaun, keep these question video's coming they give a brilliant insight and more people need to know what prison life is really like. keep up the good work
Hey bruv - great channel, subbed! I think a big part of the systematic abuse of sex offenders in prison is due to the fact that most inmates have wives, sisters, daughters - and these guys are stuck in a cell knowing that there are other predators on the outside looking to prey on these women, yet they are no longer in a position where they can protect them. So they work out that rage at being rendered powerless to protect loved ones by taking it out on whichever sex offenders come under their control. Whenever I hear someone going on about "rape culture" in society I always think "say you have to do a 10-year stretch in prison, which would you rather go in for - bank robbery, or rape?" We're expected to believe that Chip from the yachting team is all cool with rape, cuz that's "campus culture" - yet we all know that when you enter one of our finer penal institutions for a sex crime, your life will be made a living hell. Hmmm...
My husband is pending SEVERAL molestation on children charges and sex trafficking minor charges here in az- he’s also a veteran and a Lockheed Martin employee. No lie my life is CSI Thank you for your videos... they help struggling mothers like me find some kind of peace... he’s pending a lengthy time in Fed.
I love how he laughs when someone asked if a suspected chomo isn’t yet convicted😂😂. He’s so right, these guys in prison don’t care if you were “formally” charged or not. If your in there for that reason your getting your ass beat or raped and sometimes murdered. Prisoners don’t mess around when it comes to harming Innocent children, and neither do the guards.
Wow, imagine if someone gets falsely accused of a sex crime, goes to prison, then gets tortured and/or murdered, that is such a horrific injustice, and the worst thing is that it has probably happened sooo many times... Even sadder is if that story gets outed, no one would care that the poor innocent guy died, and the prisoners that did it wouldn't even feel remorse, they'd justify it to themselves as mistakes happen.
I was charged & remanded 25 years ago when I was 19, for rape at knife point, he was only 14, his father was a prison officer, and for the 18 months I spent on remand I fought every day, there was no separate wing and no one wanted to hear my side, I was all alone, the prison officers told me if I just plead guilty the beating will stop, the day I went to court the judge asked how do I plead, guilty to rape, I was then instructed to get a solicitor, the medical evidence came and he hasn't been raped. The prosecutor asked if I would plead guilty to under age sex, I told prosecution I was pleading guilty to anything, stupid move well then he came back and said his father wanted attempted rape, so I received 4 years that day. I went back jail, everyone heard I was innocent and kicked off cause I pleaded guilty. The treatment I receive is classed as torture now, don't do it any more. I was stitched up, and still to this day I get terrorist, yet I'm 100&% innocent. And there's no marks on my face.
*Shaun Attwood. I think you're an awesome guy for sharing these stories with us. When I was 14. My boyfriend was 19. My excuse was, my life was pretty messed up at the time.*
Back in the 1970s it was common for 14 or 15 year old young lady to marry their 18, 19 or 21 year old boyfriend. What wasn't acceptable was to just sleep with him, that was uncommon, but if they married it was accepted. Divorce was not so common then either. Two of my friends did that and they are still married to this day. Today's society things are very different.
@@moniquemonicat it was common since the dawn of human civilization...don't know what changed in the last 50 years....My own great great grandmother was married by 16 to a 21 year old at the turn of the century...
My father was a CO (Correctional Officer) in a max security prison in Southern California & the guards left the sex offenders alone. They were also segregated, but sometimes other inmates did get to them, but my dad said he didn’t see anything too vicious.
Prison is such a faulty system, 8000 years of prisons and it'd never been able to stop crime, and just making a playground for the worst offenders is horrid. If yer not a real criminal going into prison, you sure will be leaving it.
I work in a prison this is true especially people who came in for prison drugs/non violent crimes they come out harden due to the environment and come back to prison with a violent crime.
This was a story on the news not long ago here in NYC. Even though the guards stopped it from happening. It was a drone someone was trying to from the outside trying to drop a drone loaded with drugs in to the courtyard while the prisoners were out side. This was stupid because it was broad day light and guards saw the idiot on the outside of the fence sitting in a vehicle driving a drone.
I did an internship in a Massachusetts State Prison and even though , legally, the Corrections officers are not supposed to know what the inmates are in for they end up finding out through people that do know. So everyone ends up finding out anyway. Doesnt matter if the law states anonymity.
Yes, years ago knew a retired screw who said that 'doors would get left open'...if someone did a crime with noncery. [that would have been in the 1980's and before]
Shaun, you're wrong regarding most offenders to have been offended: Becker and Murphy (1998) estimated that while 30 percent of sex offenders were sexually abused as children, 70 percent were not. Hindman and Peters (2001) found that 67 percent of sex offenders initially reported experiencing sexual abuse as children, but when given a polygraph ("lie detector") test, the proportion dropped to 29 percent, suggesting that some sex offenders exaggerate early childhood victimization in an effort to rationalize their behavior or gain sympathy from others.
The ones accounted for in this study are a tiny fraction of the total number of sex offenders in the world. All it means is that 70% of the sample they tested were not abused. So keep your smart ass remarks to yourself pal.
Qarius Many 'sex offenders' in the USA are in fact people convicted of minor charges. They are not all sexual predators or rapists. But there doesnt need to be a connection between child molestation and being molested yourself. I think some molesters, though, confuse sex with children with love, because they themselves have been molested and see it as the only way to give nurturing. That they have a confused image of caring and nurturing. Even more interesting is a study in Norway which found that a high number of child molesters are themselves children. Also, people confuse pedophile and child molester as one and the same. Pedophiles are attracted to pre-bubescent children, not all of them are child molesters. And not all child molesters are pedophiles, some study finds. Lets say you are attracted to a 14- year old. Thats not pedophilia, its hebephilia. Which is the attraction to kids in the early teens. And what causes pedophilia is obv open to doubt, but researcher James Cantor suggests that- and some other researchers- that its a wiring in the brain which causes pedophilia. Theyre brain might actually confuse nurturing with sexual arousal. Also, there are those that claim sexual abuse is connected to repressed sexuality, or a personality disorder i e the need to be in control and that sex offenders look for targets, or that they might have a disability.
Although that might be true in some cases, convicted child rapists get attacked in jail because of their crime. To think that inmates hold off on any beatings until a sentence is passed down? Are some people really that stupid they really need to ask? Smh
Shaun if you were hired by the government as a consultant and your sole job was to make reforms ensuring that every prisoner would be safe from violence, what recommendations and reforms would you make?
Shaun, with your constant research, have you heard of any teachings or programs "empowering young children" as to what to do when ONE adult doesn't believe you're being touched? I believe there's a need there. Thanks 👍 Love your program
This guy I used to work went to prison for alleged statutory rape, but he's also a retired marine corps infantryman. He was sent to a different prison after he mangled 2 inmates, leaving one with a fractured skull. I know sex offenders are on the K.O list but the inmates really need to make sure the sex offender can't fight before they try anything.
Yes, I believed that their MAIN MOTIVATIONS were directly connected to their childhood and the pain and anger carried through their lives from there!!?!! I was abused for my entire childhood and beyond, but I didn't grow up to want to hurt anyone!!! But if anyone tried abusing me or backing me into a corner....then you might experience my rage and it could be very dangerous!!! But I believe in UNCONDITIONAL LOVE TO THIS DAY AND I'M NOW 64!!!
I honestly couldn’t think of anything worse than going to Prison!! I love my freedom, I love my home, I love my job (nurse), I love doing what I want - when I want etc etc. Prison is certainly not for me!
Hey Shaun, first of all thanks so much for the great content! I've really enjoyed all of your videos. Second of all, I wanted to ask you a question. I have a loved one on federal death row. Is there anything at all I can do to help his case? He's currently trying to appeal it, but I really don't have much hope for that...
Have you read about the woman who is in a coma and has been for 11 months she gave birth to a dead baby that could only of been conceived whilst she was in the coma
Interesting that people expect loop holes to get out of getting beaten. It's prison not Dr Phil! If a sex offender is killed in prison... I actually feel a bit of relief. What scares me are the ones that get out.
Everybody has a child they care about. Even gang leaders and murderers. Every time they see that guy walking around they think of that child and think it could have been them getting molested.
If most child abusers were them selves the victims of child sexual abuse a bit of a moral dilemma. While claiming to avenge victims of child abuse by beating seven bails of shit out of them your also beating seven bails of shit out of a victim of child abuse
I’m confused. These sex offenders are all labeled KOS but there’s so many that get out of prison. What percentage of them actually get murdered in prison?
Even then they're not really safe. I'm sure some prisons or jails protect them better than others, but because the prison system is just so overly crowded here, a lot of times they will be put on the same PC cell block as someone who flipped on their gang, ratted someone out, has been attacked before, is a teen that was charged as an adult, etc. and these people may still have animosity towards sex offenders despite the fact they both need protection. As far as I'm concerned a relatively low standard of safety for them is good. Maybe that will dissuade future dirtballs from committing sex crimes if they know there's a good chance their face will be smashed in for it
Mitchy Boy even in segregated prisons, prisoners working in the kitchen will try to put stuff in the food when the sec offenders come to eat. He actually made a video how the prisoners put mercury from thermometers into the food and many went into a coma.
You didnt answer the first question. You said someone you knew was gang raped...not a sex offender. And the question was what was the motivation behind hurting sex offenders. not what was the motivation to hurt anyone. please address the correct question
Jerry Lee Lewis married his 13 year old cousin when he was 22. They were married for 13 years. From 1957-1970. They had two kids together. How is that possible?
So a mafia hitman who killed a woman is OK and respect worthy because it's a contract kill but a guy who raped a woman isn't. I'd figure both of them would deserve a hammering in the showers but apparently one is king and the other is peasant in ranking.
Sean big shout out fae bonnie Scotland. I myself have spent time inside our jails are a walk in the park. Compared to pelican Bay or the quentin. Did you come close to getting a tattoo??? Respect for keeping it real respect bro.
@4:21 lol... Loved your involentary lol at that, it said it all.. no innocent till proven guilty in prison lol I found this vid first, but watched part 1 first to get the lowdown.. I don't know why you served 6 years, and don't reallt care (other than curiosity), but glad to see you seem to have turned that low patch around. I can't imagine what it could have been like serving time in a US prison. Liked, commented and subbed; although that seems trite compared to the subject matter. Gonna check out ye other vids, man.. you seem a very intelligent person, not to mention having a rare insight/experience Edit.. oh, you sold Es? You my bro back in the day lol jk, nahh, not kiddin.. you good my bro ;) I'm a Scouser btw, just for a little back story of who I am.. so not far from your home town eh lol Love that you turned that shit good... you the man
I hope to never go to prison . its my worst nightmare. Even though im a good guy i still get scared i could get mixed up in something not knowing and go to prison. Id rather burn. Sorry this is scary. Pedos are messed up.
Yes it is so easy to actually fuck up big time maybe you get attacked or something and you try to fight for your life and by mistake end up murdering someone
Dear Shaun gust to let you know ,your comments are off for your last programme where you say you are going to take a break. Sorry to hear that. We all make mistakes, take care and stay safe .
You seem to have maintained your sense of humor under the most stressful of circumstances. Does having a sense of humor and being funny help you to survive incarceration?
If inmates deal so harshly with sex offenders then why/how do so many of them get out of prison in one piece, then go on to offend again? In my community you can check a registry of sex offenders to see which ones are in the neighborhood. It is mind boggling that there are so many of these 290 registrants who live around me, around schools and are free to re-offend.
I don’t think you really answered the first question, he asked something like “what’s the motivation for people smashing/killing sex offenders” and your answer sounded more like you thought he asked “what’s the motivation for prison rapists raping inmates”
hey. thanks for answering my question about chinese prisoners. I have another one for you. Can you give some insight about your time in any of the facilities regarding christian conversion, preaching, and or bible studies. How do other inmates respond to anyone speaking the word, or people who have changed significantly due to their personal faith. Thanks. I really like your presentations. Did you have any kind of religious experience. Any prayers at all, faithful or not?
The Judicial places convicted sex offenders in prison. It is ironic how the other prisoners actually decide what justice will look like for sex offenders.
Can you use the internet while in prison? Is there access to computers for those inmates looking to develop coding skills to increase their odds of success when released? I feel technology would be a GREAT rehabilitation program for those locked up. So much spare time to hone some serious skills required to become an amazing Software Engineer. State prisons could produce some solid engineers by the time an inmate has served a medium term sentence. No formal education is required to get a job at top companies like Google and Facebook. Now wouldn't that be a happy ending?
My home recently just got broken into with 7 kids my aunt baby sat, me and my girlfriend. House got light on fire and home boy had a 9mm. Idk what you call that but I know it's attempted murder , multiple cases. How're those people handled?
ngl that's most of the cunts bashing these sex offenders. doesn't seem like the prisoners care unless you used your dick to commit the crime, fucked world we live in.
It's an interesting question whether 'those who bash pedos care about the victims, or are just using it as an excuse to be violent'. I read a story this morning of a child who was murdered by his parents, and almost wished I could be in prison, so I could (try to) make their lives a living Hell. Analysing my own feelings, I feel a sense that the victim in crimes like those is crying out for vengeance, and since the crime is SO monstrous, every object and power in the universe is bent against the perps... Well, I am a part of the universe, and it's not fair that those who commit unspeakable crimes should be spared the unspeakable misery that such crimes deserve.
Just to clarify Only about 2% of pedophiles were sexually abused themselves. By far the majority of survivors of child hood sexual abuse, do not grow to molester children.