QI | What Can't You Smoke In Dutch Coffee Shops? 

Am I the only one thinking about the 'Little Book of Calm' episode of Black Books?

@@thesandwich5321 "Add a dab of lavender to your bath..."

looked like he was presently in a dabble in this clip lol

But you're still allowed to steam them, thankfully. They aren't barbarians

Or salmon.

@@victorymansions If one is posing a question, as you've done with your first sentence, it is traditional to end the sentence with a question mark. I'd like to hope you wouldn't respond to this, as it would imply your face melted when confronted with your flaming hypocrisy.

To.

@S imagine actually typing anything like this in a youtube comments section. I hope you’ve calmed down

@@mathews1451 What did S say? The comment is no longer there.

plus it's the government so not a trustworthy study by any standards. the study needs to be conducted by a party with no agenda or bias. if this approach isn't taken then the results are instantly invalid in my opinion

Well, he is a Doctor

@@nekroneko Who's a doctor?

@@lukeyyyyyy He's THE doctor XD

@@Taricus doctor who?

@@lukeyyyyyy Exactly!

I no longer smoke ganja but I can assure you that inside an Amsterdam "coffee shop", unless you are caught rolling it, no one is willing to rip your joint apart to check if there is tobacco inside it.

Not really how it plays out, though, They don't really care. A lot of tourists smoke weed with tobacco and the shops rarely say anything, they might ask you to move beside an extractor.

When I was there, they just didn't want cigarettes visible on the table, and some shops did sell joints that contained tobacco but you weren't allowed to smoke them inside. Why you would be tempted to even stay for 5 min. in those places is beyond me, just get the joint and get out.

Its not real tobacco but a herbal substitute.

Davey Evans Yeah, those green trimmings they provide taste like hay.

I was asked to leave a pub because they could smell tobacco in the joint I was smoking, told me a full weed joint was fine

I was asked to leave a pub because they could smell tobacco in the joint I was smoking, told me a full weed joint was fine

Nah, the red and white of santa came from Coca-Cola rebranding him

But coca cola may have used inspiration from these myths and legends.

Santa Claus comes from the Dutch tradition of 'sinterklaas'.

Leaf Shade I'm pretty sure it's because Coca Cola's branding is red and white

Sane Man it originates from the Dutch sinterklaas where black pete would climb down the chimney to put traditional Candy in kids shoes and leave presents in front of the fireplace.

It stops idiots though.

In fairness, this show corrects itself when it's wrong

This was recorded in 2009 when what Alan said was thought to be true. Probably was a poor thing to upload in 2016 though.

I just googled it and only found sources supporting what Alan said. Can you point me somewhere where it says it is less carcinogenic? But even if it is true if you compare a cigarette to a joint one still usually smokes way less joints than cigarettes because it is way less addictive.

@@schwarzarne don't bother. those pot-heads always want to convince you that it's a wonder drug, that heals cancer.

Flynn Rider Inhaling anything that is burnt is carcinogenic. Be it tabacco, weed, hookah or spinach. It's the smoke that does the most damage. Edibles in the other hand would be much healthier.

zuluknob Lower chance of having cancer than cigarette smokers? Maybe. Lower than non-smokers? I doubt it but I'm not entirely denouncing it. Sources please.

Actually smoke from almost every burning substance is a carcinogen. Tobacco, cannabis, rubber, plastic, paper, wood, coal etc. Inhaling the smoke causes damage to your body and gives a risk of cancer. This is a fact. It's also a fact that even burnt food is carcinogenic like black toast or a black burnt burger.

Don't smoke myself, but it's insane to claim weed is anywhere near as damaging as tobacco. I wish it was legal and controlled here, people would be a lot more healthy without drinking booze.

"Recent studies have shown that......" seems to be a favourite line in the media to pedal all kinds of ridiculous "results", which only last as long as the next "new" study that overturns the previous ones.

Evi1M4chine doesn't matter it's been acknowledged on the show its just the doctor

Heyyy me tooooo

@@joshuareynolds23 if you say that somebody or other "is my favourite doctor", confusion may arise among people who are more accustomed to regarding a 'doctor' as a medical practitioner, or some other qualified specialist, rather than a character from 1960s children's television. Interestingly, Doctor Who's degree is a medical one, he having studied under Lister at Glasgow. Lister himself, of course, was a surgeon rather than a doctor, which sadly precludes him from being 'my favourite Doctor'.

Being an 80s child, Mr. Sylvester McCoy is my favourite Doctor Who. Myself, also. I am my own favourite Doctor Who.

He's my favourate 2 Doctors :)

Me too. It's so heartwarming to see people get stuck in to some wholesome debating & correcting of misinformation.

@@BootsofBlindingSpeed It's very heartwarming to see them twisting it and saying it's anti-cannabis propaganda, when really it's what the medical community believed at the time. It was the best information available to them.

Really??

The guy who nearly wrote for Doctor Who appeared in the last series.

There isn't a final answer as yet. about 15 years ago it was thought as Alan stated, and indeed marijuana plants can contain many more carcinogenic chemicals (dependent on the strain and what part of the plant is smoked). However more recent research suggests that THC (the chemical that gives the effect of the drug (though there is a second which affects if but I can't recall it)) inhibits cancerous cell growth, so the chemicals have less effect than they would in isolation, and conversely nicotine increases the cancerousness of those chemicals. There has yet to be demonstrable links between smoking marijuana and cancer, though considering the relatively recent boom in consumption, that's not conclusive. Nor is it yet proven that THC can reduce cancerous growth, though there are many quacks peddling hash cures, as well as some serious research going into it.

Reading that back, it's not many more carcinogenic chemicals, it's larger quantities of them.

The cigarette filter also factors into it. At least some of the carcinogenic chemicals, like tar, are produced by the combustion of organic materials. These are to some extent filtered out for the cigarette smoker, but the weed smoker inhales the lot of them. Some weed smokers however try to reduce the level of combustion by using a so called vaporizer which turns the various oils in the weed into gases without setting fire to all the plant material. These oils include the active ingredients, such as THC. It is still unclear whether either nicotine or THC in themselves are carcinogenic.

The pharmaceutical companies have been playing smoke and mirrors with Marijuana studies since they discovered how much money could be made in a lab with chemicals. The 20th century took to the aspirin and made Drug companies what they are today. Global Terrorists. All studies including Mop heads reference are to this day unfounded. Check out the stupidity of the B.L.F. Some people use tobacco so it increases the likelihood of cancer. You smoke so it must be a carcinogen. There are common elements shared by both. ..........and where not entirely sure what the effects really are....because no connection has been made btween cancer and marijuana.

steven mazur You make the perfect example with aspirin, it's made from the leaves of a willow tree. Willow trees are common enough, so you can just chew the leaves of a willow tree and have the same effect, right? But they have extracted and isolated the effective compounds and sell it in a cheap and convenient format. What makes you think they can't do the same with Marijuana? If it has curative effects, they could make a fortune. They haven't really bothered. I wonder why.

That's very weird to me because, i thought cannabis smoke smells much nicer to me rather than tobacco!

@@TheSuperEsari Not gonna lie, I think they both smell pretty horrible.

this was from 2009

@@tokyoDRIFTA Yes. It was a joke.

This is his velvet suit

Ward Huyskes Forget all the nonsense in this clip; none of it’s true and it only serves to spread misinformation and lies about the properties of cannabis

Let’s not kid ourselves here. They weren’t getting it from reindeers that could still prance

Essentially

How do you think he got that glowing red nose?

@Bran Thomas the general definition is, as you say, psilocybin mushrooms

Pro Plus - it's a caffeine tablet intended to improve alertness.

If your bollocks are 7 times more carcinogenic than tobacco, you should see a doctor immediately.

It is only true because most cigs have filters and most joints don't.

@@Idiomatick It's not true regardless. Cannabis smoke produces more tar, but fewer carcinogenic compounds, than cigarette smoke. However, that can vary depending on the chemicals used during growth, as well as additives. The vast majority of cigarettes contain agricultural chemicals and additives, since tobacco is grown industrially and cigs are mass-produced, whereas cannabis is grown on a much smaller scale and usually sold loose or rolled in stores. Of course, unless you're Snoop or Willie, you're not going to be smoking nearly as much cannabis as tobacco anyway. The absence of nicotine is also important, since, even though it's not super carcinogenic on its own, it reduces cellular activity in the bronchial lining, which prevents the lungs from getting rid of the tar.

You kill it

Why assume they were wild? Reindeer are commonly herded by humans from Scandinavia to Siberia and Mongolia to Canada and you'd just have to put a bucket under them as they began urinating. People do worse things to get high.

@Jeff somersby In Tilburg there's the Grass Company, which is indeed also a restaurant. They don't have smoked salmon unfortunately, but the do have sandwiches with smoked ham and smoked chicken, and they also have tuna salad. thegrasscompany.nl/menukaart-spoorlaan/

Santa's not a mushroom, he just uses them to fly ;)

Read this: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1277837/

No, but it is bad for you, nonetheless, also, I think when they say such things they mean with regards to the leaf, pure form, something or other. Alas, acute effects while under the influence can include euphoria and anxiety.

'Some people find it affects their memory, making it harder to remember things .'

'It makes some people feel confused, anxious or paranoid, and some experience panic attacks and hallucinations.'

'If you use cannabis regularly it can make you demotivated and uninterested in other things going on in your life, such as education or work. Long-term use can affect your ability to learn and to concentrate.' This doesn't sound much better than cancer, to be a mindless ape, in essence.

Evi1M4chine he isn't wrong though it's bad in high doses

britbox, back to series 12/L Acorn up to Series 4/D Acorn was a complete bust.

I've given up looking for a place to watch it.... Tried all the legal channels. Hulu, Acorn, Brit Box, Amazon (which only points to acorn anyway)...either not that that episode, or not the series as a whole. Tried some piracy probably-viruses sites...nothing but scams and/or viruses.

EebstertheGreat he said “20 fags” which is a Brit term for cigarettes.

What about him?

It's really not, I can't remember any time on QI where Stephen would challenge a guest on something they said unless he himself had a correction. Surely, if he has no correction because he doesn't know, what's left? Just randomly guessing Alan's probably wrong based on gut feeling?

@@TheSandvichTrials The joke is about how often Alan is wrong.

Where were the Elves?? Alan is wrong!!!

Mark M I just started eating the stuff after 10yrs of smoking it. Funny thing is I catch myself thinking of how smokey and nasty my mouth must be and how bad my house must smell before I realize that I'm high because I ate it and that i'm a total spaz.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1277837/ - It's nowhere close, cannabis actually inhibits some of the carcinogenic effects of tobacco smoke

Just posted this link and scrolled down to see it here already. :)

Chill he got confused about the tar amountin them i assume.

Now, there is a point to this, I'm just trying to find it.

Or maybe you're not bright enough to realise this was recorded in 2009 when what Alan said was true based on the most recent research into the topic at that time.

@@jordansadler8608 It was apparently a study based on smoking cannabiss with tobacco, without a filter..

@@booxwee3804 so like how everybody smokes a blunt?

@@failtolawl Thats a spliff. No not everyone, at least not people who wants to get cancer

@@booxwee3804 None of the forms of wrapping have filters unless you can find some made at a factory or something. Blunts, Spliffs, Joints, they are all raw marijuana being burnt. I'm not trying to talk about the health differences of marijuana or tobacco, but smoke is smoke, it doesn't matter what you're burning, you really shouldn't be putting it in your lungs - especially with all the alternative ways to ingest the stuff.

I bong hit=500 cigars

Bob Joe lungs are like ears. Just because you're able to put something in there does not make it advisable.

Yes it did.

no it didn't. when entering burning buildings, firefighters would breathe in huge amounts of carbon dioxide and carbon monoxide, and very little oxygen as the air is filled with smoke. the amount of smoke / deadly carbon monoxide a joint or cigarette produces is negatable when compared. this is like saying, "seeing light is bad. there's a reason why welders use face masks." ps, I'm not saying that smoking isn't bad for you

I suggest you try not arguing about risks firefighters take; you're talking to a firemedic here. It's not CO that is the only dangerous component of smoke you know. Smoke indicates incomplete combustion which means particulate matter. It's the uncombusted portion that makes smoke bad for you, this includes cigarettes. Bob is taking it to an extreme, but the issue is still the same, any amount of smoke, no matter the source is not good.

Bob Joe there's a big difference between tobacco smoke a cannabis, the tar from cannabis is ejected very easily from the lungs, whereas the tar from the cigarettes stays with you, i smoke both and have noticed that when i quit smoking tobacco for a few weeks i start coughing up a lot more black stuff than when im regularly smoking cannabis, and one of the properties of thc is that it doesn't interact with receptors in your lungs the way nicotine does. which they think is why cannabis is not linked to lung cancer the way nicotine is interestingly the same study found that both nicotine and thc, when present in the brain, will reduce the amount of brain cell loss due to head trauma

@TheMoreSubsYouHaveTheGayerYouAre Of course ignorance us ok. Everyone is ignorant about most things, and that's fine. The problem is _wilful_ ignorance, and I see no evidence that anyone on the panel is guilty of it in this case.

A.D.D.

I wish you people would stop misinforming people. Fly Agarics contain NO PSILOCYBIN! It contains Ibotenic acid and muscimol. It can also be deadly if not processed correctly and is readily confused with more deadly agarics. Stop being an uninformed know it all, you can cause others harm as a direct result. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amanita_muscaria Fuck wit.

Kevin Booth you people? he quoted David tennant

Came here to say the same thing. I don't believe there is any evidence whatsoever that supports Alan's claim.

Why would you mix a lethal drug with cannabis???

@@js0988 its cheaper

While true, tobacco is still very carcinogenic on its own. Though to be fair, Alan is wrong but weirdly so. He was saying something similar to what the british heart foundation said which has since been massively discredited and is now used as an example of poor study selection and bias.

@@JadeNeoma After you said this, I tried to look up the carcinogens in tobacco. Unfortunately, the internet thinks "tobacco" and "cigarette" are synonyms, so I'm running into problems. While my understanding is that breathing in _any_ smoke means breathing in carcinogens, I assumed that tobacco was no more carcinogenic than your average burned plant. You wouldn't happen to have a source regarding tobacco smoke carcinogens, would you?

Did my own fact checking. Turns out, nobody really knows for sure if smoking Tobacco or Cannabis is worse for you. There are some research out there that says while both have the same types of carcinogens in them, the THC in weed might counteract some of the effects of smoking weed. Don't know where Alan got his "seven times" fact, but there was a study that said it could have been as high as twenty times, but it's largely been discredited by everyone else. The one thing everyone agrees is more research is needed on this topic. So, I'm surprised the elves didn't call Alan out on this. And, no, I don't use Cannabis either medically or recreationally. I've also voted against many of the recreational laws that went to voters in my state. It's just when Alan said the "seven times" thing, my BS detector went, "Hang on a minute!"

@@Mythraen I realise I'm quite late to the party, but I read some botanically-based stuff about tobacco a while back, and it stated it had been researched that tobacco plants will seek out the naturally occurring radioactive elements in the soil and take them up, whereas the cannabis plants will not. The conclusion drawn is that aside from the particulate deposits in the actual smoke, tobacco is mildly radioactive, which of course is why it's carcinogenic. As far as I know no one has yet been able to definitively prove a link between cannabis and lung cancer, but given both are often smoked together it's going to be a hard thing to prove one way or the other. You'd need a large case study of people who had only ever smoked cannabis and never tobacco, who had also done it for many years, and even then if some cancer developed could cannabis be solely blamed? Probably not given there are plenty of people develop cancer who have never smoked anything ever. Some more recent pharmaceutical research is also indicating some cannabinoids are anti-oxidant and anti-viral, so theoretically would aid the immune system in fighting against cancer. Very interesting if true. Most research on elevated cancer rates in society today points the finger pretty squarely at the ridiculous amount of atmospheric nuclear testing in the 50s and 60s as the main culprit anyway. Radioactive elements present in the atmosphere we breathe every day are something like 100 times greater than before any nuclear testing began. We were right that the cold war arms race would kill us, just not the way we thought...... None of this is to say we should all take up smoking, I'm not saying that at all. But the number of folks who have never smoked who present to the oncology departments with respiratory cancers makes you wonder. For the record I smoke a little cannabis now and then and tobacco not at all, but I'm not worried about it at all. A life spent worrying about cancer is a life wasted. If you have to die from something, it might as well be that. Smoke a little weed if you want to, and enjoy your life.

@@jackielinde7568 "I've also voted against many of the recreational laws that went to voters in my state." Why? I don't consume cannabis or THC in any form, either, but I voted for legalizing it, because there's literally no value in having it be illegal. Nearly any concern you might have about it is shared with either alcohol or cigarettes, both of which are legal. Also, very few people are avoiding marijuana because it's illegal. You're just choosing to make something people do recreationally and doesn't affect you a crime with criminal punishments.

True I've only met two in my life

That's because what was said in the video is false information

Most people mix weed in joins with tobacco. Also burning it isn't the greatest way healthwise to use it. Eating it would avoid those harmfull chemicals.

How does one vape tobacco?