this was awesome. I love how Stephen and Alan easily bounce their jokes off each other like there's no tomorrow. They've become a bromance for the nation ;D
Alan is like the lovable jackass cousin you have in every family. He just never stops prodding, but for some reason you just like him more for doing it. I imagine he and Stephen are probably very good friends.
Excellent! I have been looking for this clip since I saw the episode. I just love Alan baiting Stephen and then pointing like that...hahaha Thank you Lop!!
That makes a lot more sense. The way they were talking about it/phrasing it made it seem like a really technical technicality. Thanks for the explanation!
@MrBuch169169 Can't blame the guy for trying. And he got a bit of laughter from the crowd by doing it, so at least he served his purpose as a comedy man. But yes, you're right. That's half the reason I uploaded this. The other half is because of Alan's lovely fishing mime.
Because colour isn't just some abstract thing, different wavelengths of light and all that, so there are tests to determine what colour something would be, without actually seeing it.
@nikanj I assume it does matter, because that's the actual colour of the planet and not the colour of the atmosphere? If you look at the edge of the earth, you will see a thin blue line - the atmosphere. If you look at the from the moon for instance, you see more white/brown colours that are clouds and landmasses. This is what I've seen though, and if you've seen differently, it means that looks are decieving. Also, Fry just wanted Davies to fall into a trap, and Brand did it for him.
@ProperMuzik Your comment could use a bit of cleaning up, I had to read it ten times before understanding. But; they obviously had a reason to tweak the pictures, or else they wouldn't go through the trouble. And then the real question becomes: "Why do people want me to think Mars is a red planet?" I can't answer that question, though.
@nikanj I know you've been getting a lot of response to that comment, and I thought I would pitch in with just one small little thought: The question is "What colour is the planet Mars?", and I believe they're referring to it's surface, mostly to get people to say wrong, QI style.
I see your point, and in a way you're right. It's just that I think they mean "It only appears red - from Earth." Add that it doesn't always appear red, and when the dust in the atmosphere isn't making it appear red the actual surface of the planet is brown. Otherwise NASA wouldn't have to tweak the pictures. But your reasoning is in many ways correct: "Things are as we observe them." In this case it's a matter of that the dust is red, the planet isn't.
Check out a phenomenon called structural coloration. Things can appear bright blue because of their physical shape even when the pigmentation is brown.
Consider all the colours we see in the sky during morning, day and sunset. The sun's light is being scattered by particles and gasses in our atmosphere, altering how we perceive it (from purest white to more dominant individual waves [blue, orange, etc]). In reality, we are staring into outer space which is pitch black, but the way light enters our atmosphere changes what we see. The same can occur anywhere and from any perspective in the universe.
@MartyS3000 I dare you that I've listened to that particular part a few more times than you have. We can both agree that he says "Why are we going there", and the word immediately after is definately a "when", and from there the only ending of that sentence is what I presented. It's also contextually correct, since Fry did just call Mars' colour "boring brown". Those are my arguments, what are yours?
@Lop7dh I think Alan says "Why are we going there, what's the fucking point?" Nothing about it being boring. But he does totally lure Stephen in with a comment like that :)
You sound like the robot in that doctor who episode, in the futuristic broadcast of the weakest link produced by the daleks where the robot thus shoots the weakest link.
@superkewl15 I definately hear Alan utter the word "boring" just before Fry goes "You... You are just unbelievable", listen carefully for it mate. It's there.
@Cresendoll it's 'The why're w going there, what's the fucking point?' =) and i'm very good at picking out words from what people say so long as they're british, so you can hopefully take my word for it =P
@TheSlinkyGuyShow "Why are we going there, when it's so f*cking boring." Since Fry says Mars has a boring brown colour, and this kind of impudence towards the curiousity and desire for knowledge that Fry shares, is what makes Fry angry. I think it's ingenious of Alan to push that button, pure troll style.
Go to Homebase and look at the Dulux Colour Chart, you will find yourself corrected. If you are going to try and be pedantic then brown and tan are not colours, they are names that cover what are actually quite large ranges of visible light frequencies and therefore are groups of colours.
@xapthania I don't mean to be picky, but it's Lop7dh, (ell-oh-pee-seven-dee-age). And I'm glad I could deliver something at least one person out of two thousand will comment on just to say thanks.
Our eyes are filled with fluid composed of mostly water. water does indeed filter colors of light. even air does. thats why distant objects look bluer.
Even if we did, colour is a conception of man, a reflection. therefore even with the filter in our eye that is what all of us perceive it as, and is therefore the colour the mass alludes to it, and as such is: the colour.
We do have a filter on our eyes constantly - we can't see ultraviolet or infrared light for example. "Red" is simply the name that we have given to specific set of frequencies on the electromagnetic spectrum. Giving something a name doesn't change what it is :)
We do, actually. The "clear" part of our eyes filter out near-ultraviolet light. People who have that part removed and replaced with an artificial version can see an eighth color beyond purple.
@nikanj your logic with saying the Earth being described blue and green because of the planet surface is blue and green, is completely different to the colour of the red ATMOSPHERE of Mars, the surface of the planet is not red.
Not true, light at different wavelengths is light at different wavelengths, we just perceive certain WLs as colours, which are labels imposed by the brain. So if mars reflects what we call "brown" light, it's brown. But really that just means it reflects x WL of light. This probably changes depending on where you're viewing.
I think Vsauce's episode - "This is not Yellow" would be more suitable as it is based on technical facts about color, and not philosophical views about the perception of nature, experiences and speech limitations.
Colour is not the same as wavelength of anything; this an analogy to help understand, it is not literally true. Electromagnetic waves are not characterised by any colour, and no set of photoreceptors constitute a "standard reference".
I always thought it's orange, annoys me a bit when people ramble on about 'the red planet', they colour blind or something? =P The dust in the wind is a strange red / orange though, like in the amazing classic Total Recall =)
@Cresendoll Don't listen to pyratus, for I think he is mistaken. Alan says: "Why are we going there when it's so f*cking boring." Either way works, it's still a joke.
@MartyS3000 Since you definately aren't alone in your opinion, I sat and listened to it like ten times, and you might be right, actually. I can't distinguish between the two sentences anymore, and I don't think it matters anyway since both sentences would more than likely piss Fry off which is the point. So you might be right, don't know, don't care. But you do need arguments, mate. Please don't be one of those people who just shout their opinions without backing them up.
@fuunguus Well, if NASA are ready to tweak pictures from the surface to conform with the average man's expectations of its redness, then I assume they're could hide any footage that would state that it's anything other than red.
