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Qnet Network Switch - Does it make a difference? 

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Hi Everyone!
Do network switches make a difference? Today we're taking a look at the QNET from Nordost, a five port Ethernet switch that's been designed with audio performance in mind.
The QNET is designed from the ground up to minimise noise and interference, giving you great audio performance. Let us know what you think.
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Комментарии : 26   
@vikculleen1087
@vikculleen1087 Месяц назад
Two quality network switches with SFP ports will do the same for $200. - get a 48 port Switch and space out your cables 300mm instead of 30mm - use one network switch for your home network and connect your switch (dedicated for audio) to the main switch with FIBER Also, a quality multi-rail power supply you can not fit in this small box.
@keithlevkoff8579
@keithlevkoff8579 Год назад
I heard a lot of talk... or, as I like to say, "it sounds really great - in the brochure"... For example, "reducing RF crosstalk between Ethernet ports" sounds like a cool idea... But I'm not at all convinced that minor improvements in noise will actually deliver improved Ethernet performance. And, of course, if it does, then we can talk about whether slight improvements in Ethernet performance actually improvements in AUDIO performance. Considering that we're talking about DIGITAL audio I would love to know exactly what BITS changed when he swapped the switches and cables... I would much prefer to hear the results of some double-blind tests involving multiple listeners... And, no, I hate to be a killjoy, but even sighted tests using your own ears are NOT especially reliable. (By which I mean that the clearly audible differences you hear when you can see the gear have a nasty habit of disappearing when you close your eyes...)
@jamesheal5953
@jamesheal5953 Год назад
Hi Keith Have you listened to the Nordost QNet?
@AlexanderTG3
@AlexanderTG3 Год назад
Great video! Similar results with my Innuos Phoenix Network Switch
@lordgandalf22
@lordgandalf22 Год назад
Explain please how can a fully digital signal get worse ? and also how can a L2 or L3 switch mess with a L7 signal. This is just a scam all of it.Unless you have a way to show that the audio signal changes without just listening to it i might believe you if it shows a different audio signal as far as i know whats going in on the server site to switch and on a player. And ethernet cables made by the standard all work the same. sounds like thats bs tbh.
@timobi_1604
@timobi_1604 Год назад
Excellent video. You were very informative. Thank you.
@baronvonaux8294
@baronvonaux8294 11 месяцев назад
LOL…retailer telling everybody who actually understands networking to go away. Don’t want the world to know the truth.
@mteltser
@mteltser 10 месяцев назад
In am interested in upgrading the sound of my music streaming on my audio system and have heard several other positive reviews of this product. Would you mind clarifying the last point about using 2 moderately priced Ethernet cables vs 1 expensive one? From the wall and/or from the outputs?
@SoundlineAudioNewZealand
@SoundlineAudioNewZealand 5 месяцев назад
We were curious to know what sounded better if you had a set budget. Buying one very expensive Ethernet cable (Nordost Valhalla) and using that on the input side of the Qnet and a cheap patch lead on the output side. Or, Using to moderately priced Ethernet leads (Nordost Heimdal) on both the input and the output sides of the Qnet. The latter sounded much better.
@SpoiledBadgerMilk
@SpoiledBadgerMilk Год назад
It's digital ones and zeros. No amount of fancy word vomit. Can change that fact. No special switch will give you discernable better audio. Switches are not analog devices. The signal going to and from a switch is not analog. If you want better audio. Buy good speakers and stereo amplifiers. Stereo cables. If you really die hard use cat8 with better shielding. No need for expensive network switch with over shelf parts with black shmuw and a hot glue crystal.
@Pete.across.the.street
@Pete.across.the.street Год назад
Not true. Sounds like you have never tried them.
@deneszoltan2160
@deneszoltan2160 Год назад
There are many other audiophile switches out there, not just modified one as Nordost says. I'm using one too. It would be much more informative to have a shootout between these not against a standard D-link or something like that. Well, since you are a Nordost dealer, we can't expect that, of course.
@gmachine1370
@gmachine1370 Год назад
Never try this qnet looks interesting. Added in my network line power supply and makes big difference with sound quality. Less harsh more depth. I also use great network cables from 7notes audio soundstage become bigger, more accurate sound bass is better control
@rexpontiusful
@rexpontiusful Год назад
Utter nonsense device
@SoundlineAudioNewZealand
@SoundlineAudioNewZealand Год назад
Have you tried one?
@DartLuke
@DartLuke 10 месяцев назад
​@SoundlineAudioNewZealand have you read TCP/IP protocol description?
@v0ldy54
@v0ldy54 3 месяца назад
@@SoundlineAudioNewZealand have you compared packets sent from an "audiophile" switch to those sent from a normal switch with Wireshark to prove there is any difference? It's pretty easy, why don't you do that?
@tonygerassi1502
@tonygerassi1502 Год назад
😂 I know for a fact network switches do not make a difference. Hence I will comment my negative Nancy comment. There is a reason why shielded network cables can cause a ground loop in a system….. You should use wifi instead of hardwire since there is nothing to shield as there is no physical connection! 🫣 How do you filter the rest of the internet where the packets are coming from? The reason why every day category cable is in twisted pairs (the same design as what audiophile speaker and power cables use) is to avoid cross talk between the pairs. Funny enough it has everything to do with the speed at which the cable can reliably transfer packets and nothing to do with the RF noise and interference, unless you are introducing 10gb, 25gb, 100gb speeds which according to this network switch, 100mb will introduce less noise, meaning you could use a sub cat5 cable 🤔. Theoretically (even though the bit rate on the highest grade lossless audiophile is low enough to never have an effect) the gigabit ports would actually provide a faster data transfer of 1’s and 0’s allowing a more reliable signal. If you really want to push snake oil, use a fibre cable and eliminate the copper all together. Maybe the wavelength of the light source will provide a better signal than the voltage pulse of the the bits. Light cannot absorb RF noise now can it?
@keithlevkoff8579
@keithlevkoff8579 Год назад
Would that make it "glass snake oil"... I hear the next audiophile product there... Optical filters to remove noise from the digital audio signal on those optical Ethernet ports... Perhaps something involving crystal filters... 🥸
@Pete.across.the.street
@Pete.across.the.street Год назад
Which audio ethernet switches have you tried?
@keithlevkoff8579
@keithlevkoff8579 Год назад
@@Pete.across.the.street I want to add a reply to this comment... as someone else with a lot of knowledge about computer networks. I personally have not tried any "audio Ethernet switches" - and have no plans to do so... because that term itself is both misleading and only marginally meaningful. (And because I do know, beyond any reasonable doubt, that none of the audio gear *I* use would benefit from it.) Let me explain... It is certainly POSSIBLE that a certain network-connected music player could be especially sensitive to high-frequency noise or noise that might enter it through its Ethernet connection. And, IF that were the case, then a switch that was specially designed to minimize that sort of issue could conceivably improve the situation. (To be fair, I am rather doubtful, but I cannot claim that it is impossible.) What I take exception to is the way in which this possibility is presented. A well-designed network-attached device SHOULD NOT be affected by noise or signal jitter on the network packets. If it is in fact affected by them then it is suffering from a flawed design. And, if this can be established to be the case, you can then move on to establishing that a specially designed network switch can "solve the problem". (But, until that point, we're talking about "an expensive device that is claimed to solve a problem that most people probably don't have" and offering no proof beyond a subjective claim that "they'll be able to hear an improvement when that problem is gone".) To me this sounds a lot like selling someone "volcano insurance"... With the justification that "there haven't been any volcano eruptions in their back yard since they purchased it"...
@Pete.across.the.street
@Pete.across.the.street Год назад
@@keithlevkoff8579 I got 2 meraki 220 switches off eBay for cheap. Cascaded them with fiber and got a big increase in sound quality from my bluesound node.
@keithlevkoff8579
@keithlevkoff8579 Год назад
@@Pete.across.the.street I can't say that I'm surprised... streaming, and streaming devices, are more sensitive to things like packet loss, and some streaming mechanisms like DLNA may even throttle the quality of the audio signal based on network conditions. I don't know much about what's actually inside a BlueSound Node.. and Cisco makes good network gear... at "normal" prices.
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