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QUAD Cortex power supply noise comparison 

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This is probably the most boring video on youtube unless you care about power supply noise.
Skip to 9:15 for conclusions!
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@nigelwilliams3311
@nigelwilliams3311 Год назад
Well done. It is nice to see someone test these theories, rather than just repeat "FaceBook opinion". I have always been very sceptical that alternative power supplies will solve the QC noise issues by "grounding" it. Most of the miraculous "holy grail" alternatives only have a 2-pin mains connection, and are not even grounded themselves. Those that do have a mains connection to ground are required to do so because they have a metallic case that has to be grounded. The ground connection is then broken by the step-down transformer to the 2 conductor wire to the QC barrel connector. Even if this did carry a ground via the DC negative, the QC is not designed to be grounded this way. Neural made the decision to ground the QC via the XLR connector to the power amplification. They say that they did it this way to avoid ground-loop issues, but it may well have been driven by wanting to avoid having a power supply integrated ino the QC, which would also have meant needing a ground lift circuit. This would have made the QC bigger, and probably more costly to produce. Whatever the motive, we are stuck with the result, and the QC can not be grounded by any alternative power supply. Users may want a more robust power supply, or something that is more "pedal-board friendly". I have no problem with anyone recommending an alternative power supply for these reasons, but none of the options will "ground" the QC or have any more than a marginal effect on noise. I do have a problem with those that claim a different power supply will "ground" the QC and solve everyone's noise issues.
@jameslanclos568
@jameslanclos568 Год назад
I per-ordered the QC back when they weren't available yet, from Sweetwater. I've read that the supplied power supply for the QC is garbage. I still haven't gotten a better power supply yet. Would you recommend the Cloks/Cioks DC-7 power supply or is there any other alternatives? Thanks in advance Nigel.
@nigelwilliams3311
@nigelwilliams3311 Год назад
I haven't tried anything other than the original power supply, and Iwouldn't recommend anything. People on the forums were slagging off the power supply that comes with the QC, and insisting that various alternatives would "ground" the QC and solve all the noise issues. That is garbage. If you can ground the QC via the amplification, and you can connect the QC to power with the original power supply, I see no reason to spend money on anything else. If you are using QC with headphones, and do not have it grounded by connection to FRFR etc, you may have noise issues because you and the guitar pickups are acting as RF antennas and passing interference down the chain. Only answer to that is to plug the QC into grounded amplification, even if the amplification is turned off. If you need something to power QC on a pedalboard, and you can't plug the original power supply into the mains power that supplies the pedalboard, the alternatives like CIOKS are options. Just beware of units that say they will do the job, but do not actually supply power to the correct specs. Many only actually produce 2A whereas the QC requires 3A, and problems have been reported arising from this.
@Jason-Taylor
@Jason-Taylor 8 месяцев назад
I use a Cioks DC7 on my pedalboard to power my Quad Cortex along with other devices. I went with the Cioks Crux 12V adapter specifically to power the QC which eliminates the need to use several parallel cables and use up multiple ports on the DC7. There’s a single, dedicated 12V out on the DC7 that the Crux connects to. It’s an expensive setup overall but I couldn’t be more pleased with it.
@Sebastian00000
@Sebastian00000 Год назад
Your Video helped me to compare it with my experiences on the Cortex. THX 4 That 😊
@GuitarStuffChannel
@GuitarStuffChannel Год назад
Great. Glad it helped.
@bernie_smith
@bernie_smith Год назад
As a back up for the CIOKS DC7 I purchased a power supply from MyVolts, a UK company, that supply a dedicated replacement specifically for the QC.
@666jtizel666
@666jtizel666 Год назад
Which myvolts supply did you get. I love those I have one for my H9 and Talkbox. Can’t find the QC one.
@GuitarStuffChannel
@GuitarStuffChannel Год назад
I've heard these are good.
@freethinker7246
@freethinker7246 Год назад
Thanks for doing this
@GuitarStuffChannel
@GuitarStuffChannel Год назад
No problem!
@msi1985
@msi1985 2 месяца назад
I'm just looking for a power supply that has a little bit of a beefier cable set up that would stand up to traveling. Unfortunately I feel like I'm kind of bound to using the croix unit or something similar. I'm just trying to avoid the additional RCA cable mess that comes with using that device.
@CitAllHearItAll
@CitAllHearItAll 5 месяцев назад
Sounds like you have electrical noise from your outlets. I use a TripLite Isobar 2 outlet to plug into the wall. It's a surge protector and it filters out the EMI noise. That's why the Cioks was less noisy. It's isolated.
@jcl3065
@jcl3065 Год назад
thanks for your sharing ! that will be useful
@jcl3065
@jcl3065 Год назад
and.. can you tell me where can buy protect QC plastic top ?thanks you
@GuitarStuffChannel
@GuitarStuffChannel Год назад
My one is Gear by Ceba www.gearbyceba.com
@jazzy9773
@jazzy9773 Год назад
Where did you buy the plexiglass? protection I see in your videos?
@GuitarStuffChannel
@GuitarStuffChannel Год назад
It's Gear by Ceba www.gearbyceba.com
@milanosde
@milanosde Год назад
This is very helpful, thanks! I think that I will buy a cioks or a similar power supply to run my QC and other devices that I use.
@GuitarStuffChannel
@GuitarStuffChannel Год назад
Glad it helped.
@sebrura
@sebrura Год назад
Thumbs up for doing this. Any 3S LiPo battery would work well powering the QC. My experience is that this works quite well wrt noise.
@GuitarStuffChannel
@GuitarStuffChannel Год назад
Glad you liked it. Useful idea.
@HALman1973
@HALman1973 Год назад
Fascinating.
@GuitarStuffChannel
@GuitarStuffChannel Год назад
Ha!
@misterringer
@misterringer Год назад
Ouch. So the QC is just.....noisy in general. 7db reduction is significant for sure. Sad that it costs 200 dollars/pounds to get it on an already very expensive piece of kit. I had a QC and sent it back due to it being very noisy. Thanks for the testing.
@roxyjakes402
@roxyjakes402 Год назад
What marshal amp are you using?
@GuitarStuffChannel
@GuitarStuffChannel Год назад
It's a Hanwell
@SLASHMPI
@SLASHMPI Год назад
Whats that Marshall frfr model?
@GuitarStuffChannel
@GuitarStuffChannel Год назад
It's a Marshall Hanwell. They used to have a range of speakers, but I don't think that they make this one any more.
@berndkiltz
@berndkiltz Год назад
One of the reason I sold mine (QC). Damn it, the in-the.box power supply should work perfectly. Its a cheap piece of garbage and an insult to every customer
@GuitarStuffChannel
@GuitarStuffChannel Год назад
True. Although they have said that they did it for a reason.
@Nicolae8607
@Nicolae8607 Год назад
@@GuitarStuffChannel thank you for the video What is the reson they did this power supply?
@brendenrodgers7821
@brendenrodgers7821 Год назад
@@Nicolae8607 the ground is your guitar. Similar to real amp. I think if they had a ground on the power supply it would create a ground loop between the device and guitar. I’m just paraphrasing what I remember seeing
@recellegende2453
@recellegende2453 11 месяцев назад
@@brendenrodgers7821 The guitar can not be the grounding device...
@joshuafernandes4935
@joshuafernandes4935 Год назад
Neural has probably found the cheapest power supply to ship along with this unit. I can only imagine how cheap the parts inside the QC must be if they did not think its respectful to ship a good power supply with a unit that costs over $1000. 2 years after announcing the product they have still not delivered on the initial promises anyway to their customers.
@michaelpal7641
@michaelpal7641 Месяц назад
Purchased a QC few days-Now I find out I need a Cioks power supply AND A F**KING Cioks CRUX??? Attached by 4 cables??? $2100.00 dollars and a power plug that feeds under voltage power to the QC???? AND ALL WITH A PERCEPTIBLE "HUM"?? WHAT THE FUCK!!!
@kevinthomaslive
@kevinthomaslive Месяц назад
I’m in the same boat as you
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