@@AdzzVR Not yet but I'm thinking of going with simagic since there is a supplier (fast master, playtech) in new Zealand and won't have to wait/pay for shipping.
This entry level wheel base is amazing, I like the competition. A GIMX adapter might help with playing on the PS5 with GT7. The lack of an entry level wheel is a problem, especially if the rims cost more than the wheel base is ridiculous. Great review.
@@acedogboy8421 You're saying that it's possible to remove the Moza RF thing and attach a standard bolt on wheel or QR? Not knowing this was the only thing stopping me from purchasing this. EDIT: Oh I see the Moza has a QR that they sell separately. I had no idea.
I was considering the r9, until I saw both the steering wheels are 500 each. What's the point of making a mid range base when it requires a steering wheel that costs more than the base itself?
Hey hey Pete! How are you man? And yeah, the cons could steer (racing pun) me and many others away from this unit. It’s great, but the wheel lineup and console incompatibility hold it back
Not too shabby. I really like how they labeled the frequencies to make it easier to understand what it changes. The price of the wheels doesn't really bother me much since I build my own wheels but I do see how it can be a turn off for others. Hopefully the software keeps maturing and they come out with more budget friendly wheels.
I think the labeled frequencies can also cause misunderstanding, as in it can be interpreted something like "turn 15 and 30 Hz up to amplify curbs" while it's not how it works
I do not understand why every review on this thing lists the price of the Moza wheel rims as a downside for the base. Get a QD and you can put on any wheelrim you want, simple as that. This is not like Fanatec where you're forced to use their stuff.
Can not wait to mine arrives already placed my order The wheel price is not a deal breaker for me as i looked at getting a V2.5 rim with a podium advance module and that was going to be around $685us
Have now received mine and loving it already the FFB is great so easy to dial in with Pit House to get the feelings and response that suits you. and i think the GS wheel is amazing in looks and comfort well done Moza Racing ps I love your review Mike
excellent review Mike, was considering this wheel base than noticed the price of the wheels, did see there is other wheels being released later this year.
It looks great! However they only have 2 wheels at the moment that are both $500 so that makes it definitely not the cheapest DD option since you won’t be driving if you buy it standalone. I would’ve went that route immediately if there was like maybe a starter wheel or possibility to hook up something else to it.
Been flipping between this and the dd pro. On one hand I can get a full direct drive base, wheel, and pedals that supports console and pc. But gotta wait for shipping from abroad, not a disaster for around £650uk give or take, if I want the boost kit, that's an extra 150, plus a wheel I have no interest in, but something to make do. On the other hand, this unit is £400uk, is 9 nm already anyway. free next day delivery, I buy the pedal set I want right off the bat, the wheel I want right off the bat, and I understand, according to several people who've also talked about this there is an adapter so it works not only on pc but console too. Either way, I like what I see.
I was thinking the same thing. I'm running a Series X right now and PS4 as PS5 is hens-teeth hard to find right now, so if this could be compatible with consoles until I make the PC upgrade, this is an appealing alternative to the Fanatec DD Pro. My only concern, as is always a concern of mine when buying electronics, is whether this will be around awhile with good manufacturer support and updates or will it be niche and die on the vine (I've bought way too many niche electronics that were eliminated from a company's product line less than a year after release.) Nice review as always Mike! God bless and race on.
Whoa, free next day delivery?? I didn’t realize that. That’s a big deal. And for what it’s worth, both are great. The DD Pro gets the nudge from me because it’s console compatible, but either wheelbase is a good choice
@@SimRacing604 moza have a UK distributor that will be selling it, called abruzzi race wear, I was talking to an employee getting the lowdown price and so on, and sure enough I went to the site and its free next day delivery. He's been running this base on the ps5, playing gt7 with an adaptor called the ras1ution 2, on sale at amazon I believe from next week, so yeah, options.
@@jcoulter43 yeah the thing is the dd pro can also be series x compatable with the right wheel, but the moza I'm not sure if the adaptor works with series x, but I would assume it does, I just havent heard it said. I come in to an alienware m15 r6 so I can also use it on that for I racing and so on.
@@jcoulter43 as far as manufacturer support, I probably have most confidence in Moza than the other recent startups in the industry lately. This being because they have been around for about a decade manufacturing camera gimbals, so they know how to break into a new market and produce a quality product. They're a bit more established.
Poor man’s question: Definitely getting this when they come out with an entry -level wheel for it. I assume I can make do with my Logitech pedals and shifter for awhile, by the usual practice of just leaving the Logi stuff attached to computer and selecting the Moza for steering axis?
I'm doing the same mate T3pa pros with loadcell and Th8a shifter all direct to usb and moza seperate mate we all got to start some where and it all adds up in the long run choose the route that's best for you 😁
@Mike Valadez This is the conventional wisdom. However I’ve worked on my pedals to the point they are adequate. Nothing I can feasibly do about getting faster, more communicative wheel forces however.
@@cmbaileytstc Have you looked at the Truebrake upgrade to the Logi pedals. I went from G27 pedals with Truebrake to V3’s and didn’t notice a huge difference.
hey Mike...ya im waiting for mine got both wheels should be here in a week or two..also waiting for my pedals...gonna suck having my nice new wheel and no pedals lol...thanks for the review.,, im really glad to see some fanatech competition i got the wheel to check out the company..i also am waiting for my fanatech stuff as well doing two rigs,,need to get another pedal set thinking Hueskinvelds ultimates... hey how comfy is your seat with long stints.(4-6hr).looking for a comfy seat ..want a micro seat but can't find the one i want..almost looks like micro is out of buisness...thanks for your input cheers
they need to come out with some "impressively" priced wheels, until then they are off my radar. if they come in with a bundle of say the R9 and a Rally rim for say $649.99 and I'm all in. Oh, and why are none of you Utubers comparing it to the fanatec csl dd?
@@MOZARacing Please tell me there is a $200 wheel coming out, I have been saving my money and I'm ready to buy and I want MOZA :) I will be buying the base and wheel.
The base is a great price but they got you on the $500 wheels. Everything is $500. So to stay in the eco you will drop $1500. Thrustmaster needs to hurry up on their DD gear to balance it all out.
i wonder what 3rd party box would work with this i went to drivehub page and they dont have compatibility for moza i guess cuase they new? i know alot of people dont like 500 dollar wheel price but when fanatec started making rims they said the same thing about 300 buck rims this wheelbase is a game changer 100 percent as was the dd before that sim racing only going to get better from here
Thanks Mike! I guess I'm stuck with Fanatec. I have 4 of their wheels. If this thing was compatible with those , I'd buy that Moza today! Are there any other DD systems ( Besides the Fanatec brand ) out there compatible with my Fanatec wheels? Anyone know?
It can be with a moza qr and usb converion kit that would be expensive. Almost all other usb wheels and non usb wheels if you don't need butttons or shifters will work as long as the moza qr or a nrg 2.0 will bolt on.
Great review Mike got one on order here in the uk with that stunning moza gs wheel can't wait for it to arrive moza are in the process of making cheaper entry level wheels I have seen and heard the question is will it replace your csl dd? I was on the fence between csl dd sim magic mini alpha but the gs wheel won the battle as its stunning great review even more excited now 😁
@@nextgengaming7803 I have mate been talking to Ben there he has been very helpful shipment slightly delayed due to the factory had to close for covid but hopefully end of this week early next week I should have it in my hand so excited to upgrade from the t300
@@submentalbass yeah that's where I'm looking to order from, I too have the t300 for my Ps5/ps4, it owes me absolutely nothing, I picked it up specifically for project cars in 2015 and its been an absolute titan on assetto corsa, project cars 1 and 2, all formula 1 games since 2015. But its time to move and, and upgrade. I recently come in to an alienware laptop, so I'll be able to dive in to the really serious sim stuff. Gonna take my time though, order the r9 base first, gonna get a seat and cockpit chassis for it next month, basically gonna build it all up over time.
@@nextgengaming7803 Im coming from a t500, Abruzzi seem to be a really great company to talk to. Ive asked a few questions about my order and they have been brilliant so far. I also spoke to Ben who left me this message last time - I can’t compare the two to be honest as I have a Dd1 for comparison rather than csl dd, I can say the wheels are on another level compared to fanatec. The wheelbase and performance of this unit really impressed me but I can’t give you an honest comparison of the two. I can’t see you being disapointed though. Moza are an incredible company to work with and have been second to none with everything I’ve needed in the last 6 months.
@@nextgengaming7803 I'm about the same mate project cars and ps4 made me upgrade from dfgt to t300 its not missed a beat upgraded internal fan bearing failure but direct drive is a must now on pc and fanatecs marketing put me off all the pre order stuff and express versions ect plus import tax moza looks to be on a winner here 😁
Hi Mike. Question if I may. Have you gotten the wheel to work in R3E? Going to watch your video again, as I don't remember if you tried it during your review period. There is no wheel option for configuring in R3E. Just wondering how you got on with it. Thanks for what you do!
I see you have a Next Level Elite rig. Is there any drilling required for it to fit? Also, what is your opinion on the comparison between this and a Fanatec CSL DD?
Tough though to fully commit to an ecosystem so new, wish it didn't lock you out, but then again Fanatec started in this position once long ago as well. I will say this, Fanatec needs to release the new QR2 very sooon because all of these new kids on the block utilize a MUCH better quick disconnect and in this case wireless as well no more pins!
I have a TS-PC with a 488 Challenge rim.. I see Moza also sells a quick release for $79,-. Maybe a stupid question but is it possible to use any TM wheel with this?
@@SimRacing604 Well this is a hell of a deal. Was about to splash 1400 for a SIMUCUBE pro 2 from a retail computer store local to me. Glad I watched this video
That's we all want to know but moza nailed it with the gs wheel looks top of the line and being canadian it's cheaper for me to buy than a mclaren gt3 with the clubsport qr from fanatec.
I started playing in 2020 on G29, and even now after 1.8 its been great, so since you have a DD wheel its worth a shot, I am waiting for either Fanatecs CSL DD preorders to be closer or for Moza to release cheaper rims then I will upgrade to a DD.
If the base works with regular wheel (i saw a drift video with normal steering wheel), why the 3rd party SW wont work if connect via USB for buttons and gears?
If you use a third party USB wheel, it is going to just act like a button box essentially. You’ll have full tuning of the wheel’s FFB inside the software but the buttons will be handled as just additional inputs on your PC.
@@joshwilles7540 so is pointless keep saying the base is not compatible wiehte third party usb wheel. because that statement makes it seem like it's the same as fanatec and is not
MOZA mentions active cooling components in their description, but I can’t hear any fans. So I’m not sure how they accomplish it, but it stays cool and quiet
@@SimRacing604 I assume its like a passive heatsink or that the chasis itself is acting like a cooler. But as long as i know it has no fans, and they would be useless since its completly sealed and has no holes to ventilation
I'd get one of these if the table clamp wasn't $60+. Seriously, what the hell were they thinking? The accessories for this thing is so obnoxiously expensive.
Surely if you turn the abs off you wouldn't get the abs effect come through the wheel? Isn't abs the feeling like you're driving on gravel when it kicks in as the pads repeatedly touch hundreds of times over and over again? If abs is off then the brakes just lock solid? Or am I crazy?! 😂
@@vsm1456 is that what abs effect is on wheels then? That's a weird way to describe the effect. I never would of called that particular effect abs, I would of thought traction loss or skid effect. Bizarre!
@@aarongreen121 I don't understand you. When Mike turned ABS off, that doesn't mean there shouldn't be any FFB when he locks front wheels. The wheels, even when locked, are still a soft, very grippy rubber so at low speed they should still try to regain grip (and then lose it). I'm pretty sure that's what you see in the video. I don't know what ABS should feel like in that game.
@@vsm1456 I'm just saying in real life when you hit the anchors in a car and the abs kicks in you get that feeling like you're traveling over gravel as the brake pads and discs touch, almost like a vibration. Mike turned off the abs so surely there wouldn't be that effect, it would just have the wheels lock and there be zero abs effect as like I've said he'd turned it off. I'm just saying, he was trying to test the abs effect shortly after turning off the abs in game. So there was zero abs... How can you comment on the abs feeling if its turned off?
@@aarongreen121 I rewatched that part and he never said these are ABS effects. Even if he did in some other parts of the video, I'm sure he simply misspoke.
Expensive small base, much more than the little one by Fanatec. No interest at all since their steering wheels and the pedals cost more than 500 bucks. No competition here, Fanatec is much cheaper.
@@mArvAlcao71 This base aloone with taxes cost $591, and the Fanatec base with taxes included costs $349.95. To me that's a big difference. Plus, if you have to add a wheel and pedals, the difference is a lot higher. You can buy Fanatec's wheels and pedals for 'only' 200 and 300.
@@utubepassenger you have to conder a lot of things, like shipping cost and taxes. First, You compare R9 with vanilla CSL DD. You should add the boost kit to make the comparison fair because the R9 has 9Nm while the standard CSL DD has 5Nm. R9 cost $439, CSL DD + Boost Kit cost $499, both without taxes tho. I don't live in Europe, so... Not to mention Fanatec products are made in China yet they completely ignore the Asian market, so we had to rely on importers to get those stuff. So for example, if I wanna get the CSL DD from them, it cost me $770. At least I could buy Moza wheelbase from one of their official distributor in Singapore to ship that to Indonesia, probably for less.
how? you can attach any wheel you want to this wheel since it uses standardised quick release unlike fanatecs proprietary one. and yes, you can even use fanatec wheels on this base
