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@dustinwilson492
@dustinwilson492 Год назад
Even if they end up banning the extensions...pretty cool to say "Yeah I'm the reason they have that rule."
@oldmate86
@oldmate86 Год назад
I think they have. All suits to be manufacture options available to the public
@emiliosagichnicht7521
@emiliosagichnicht7521 Год назад
Not really, in aviation that usually happens when you kill yourself...
@a.p.2356
@a.p.2356 11 месяцев назад
That's true in pretty much all types of racing; you know you're on the right track when the officials write a rule for next season banning whatever you did last season.
@sargon4037
@sargon4037 8 месяцев назад
Everything is not part of your body. So any modification shouldn't matter
@enotdetcelfer
@enotdetcelfer Год назад
I'm just a fan of engineering channels with dry/wry, even-keeled delivery vs sensational clickbait of the fascination du jour. Keep up the great work!
@njits1017
@njits1017 Год назад
Superfastmatt or rctestflight!
@makerbeelab5546
@makerbeelab5546 Год назад
Always pleasure seeing you doing crazy collaboration stuff with interesting people!
@mvadu
@mvadu Год назад
Thank you for introducing Alexey! What an inspiring guy.. Awesome video as usual!
@christianfoucault2496
@christianfoucault2496 Год назад
Being a wingsuiter myself since 2012, I found this interesting. I had looked into extension for my suits a few years back and had decided against them on the grounds that to get significant improvements you would need to make them fairly big and forces would have been "too much" to handle and safety would definitely be impacted... Fun to see that you can get some improvements with such a small (relatively) winglet. Do you think it is because of better control of tip vortices? Would a winglet with a swept-up end be even better a minimizing vortices?
@7996hobguy
@7996hobguy Год назад
I think the future of the sport lies in helmet mounted canards.
@AlexGalda
@AlexGalda Год назад
Christian, the 5-10% improvements are mostly because of adding an efficient lifting surface where it matters the most. Flat span extensions are significantly more efficient than upward/downward facing winglets. The main reasons why most airplanes use those are because they need to stay within a certain wing span limitation, better structural rigidity, and because they look cooler.
@adamhale6672
@adamhale6672 Год назад
Wing efficiency is heavily dependent on aspect ratio. A wingsuit doesn't behave much like a traditional wing, but any way you can increase the aspect ratio will push the overall performance closer to an ideal wing.
@christianfoucault2496
@christianfoucault2496 Год назад
@@AlexGalda I guess so but then it becomes a question of human strength to hold the correct body position with a much wider wingspan. You know how we are... we'd like to stay up there for ever if it was possible, this being said 10-15% is an improvement and every little bit counts.
@eelcohoogendoorn8044
@eelcohoogendoorn8044 Год назад
@@christianfoucault2496 Yeah i was starting to wonder wrt competition regulations; where is the line between a wingsuit and an ultralight? You point out a nice natural constraint; as long as its your body that acts as the fuselage, carrying the loads between the left and right, without additional bracing, id say go crazy with your wing extensions; the difference with an actual airplane is always going to remain quite pronounced that way.
@iforce2d
@iforce2d Год назад
omg the weather.... I'm so jealous
@thinkflight
@thinkflight Год назад
I ain't complainin...!
@davidsteinhour5562
@davidsteinhour5562 Год назад
At 4:58 I love that "Time Bomb" by Iration is playing as he's talking about a time-activated parachute device 🤣
@scratchfisch6425
@scratchfisch6425 Год назад
I'm pretty sure the new rules will at the very least heavily restrict the size and weight of extensions, if not prohibit their use entirely. I'm personally hoping for the first option, as they make for a very interesting competition, but the safety aspect has to be looked at very critically. Creating a situation where competitors are pushed to use larger and larger extensions, that will both make it harder to open the chute and also become harder and harder on the pilots would be less than ideal, so you at least need size and weight limits.
@confuseatronica
@confuseatronica Год назад
"If you've been enjoying this video, you may be interested in this video's puppy". Hi puppy!
@pancakeflux
@pancakeflux Год назад
Oh man, I knew I recognized Eloy and Elsinore. So many good memories, and what a fun project. Blue skies, friends!
@aphaes1
@aphaes1 Год назад
How does this video only have 34k views with a puppy in it? All jokes aside this is brilliant and innovative. I wish you great success.
@onjofilms
@onjofilms Год назад
Sort of like when they came out with bigger tennis rackets, and larger golf club heads. My own experience was with hang-gliders that had carbon fiber wing spars. First the TRX-140, then I got a TRX-160 and that mo fo would float. Bad thing about carbon fiber is there is no indication that it is broke until it folds on you.
@rocketman99
@rocketman99 Год назад
Legendary video man , very impressive
@OzAndyify
@OzAndyify Год назад
Wingsuits are pretty fun, but as low aspect ratio wings supported by sinew they are limited, and safety is bloody important. I always wished a spar supported wing could be deployed so as to be able to land it (and do loops and barrel rolls!). The smaller canopies are only 60 sq ft or so (smallest I've heard of was 46, typical is 120 or so), and the higher the performance, the higher the wing loading you can land. Add tail stability and eddy flaps and you might be able to do away with line supported canopies completely.
@scottcummings8074
@scottcummings8074 Год назад
I hope the ruling allows innovation. Great work all the way around.
@Milesobrian
@Milesobrian Год назад
i was picturing something a lot longer. triple that. hey im here to learn.
@AdmV0rl0n
@AdmV0rl0n Год назад
really good video and work. I pondered for a while why people had not done more, but the in flight stability challenge explains that. I was thinking why no one has wings/winglets on the helmet. But centre of gravity? Also, in the chest area, this is a space that could be used for some form of wing or lifting body. The current arm design, and I guess this is partially physical limits, leads to a swept wing. Ideally for lift at lower speed, a straighter wing might be advantageous. Wingsuit flying is amazing. Looking forward to progress people make. Thank you for the time taken to put the content up!
@I.no.ah.guy57
@I.no.ah.guy57 Год назад
Such an interesting idea. I've dreamed of flying in a wingsuit 😩 it's definitely something on my bucket list
@av8rdav
@av8rdav Год назад
The Cessna Caravan is not a converted turbo-prop. It's design and certification are as a turbo-prop.
@patrickbarry7474
@patrickbarry7474 Год назад
Very cool!
@tinolino58
@tinolino58 Год назад
Forget the regulations
@antifederalist
@antifederalist Год назад
aka cheat
@tinolino58
@tinolino58 Год назад
@@antifederalist dont compete
@soodonym
@soodonym Год назад
That looks like a good wee pup! and the rest of the video was very good too...
@rohansully584
@rohansully584 Год назад
Very fascinating. Amazing people
@an_R_key
@an_R_key Год назад
Really cool upload. thanks :-)
@jimross898
@jimross898 Год назад
Ha! Nice pup. I have a 4 month old female red heeler named Goose. Best dogs ever. My fourth. We don't bob heeler tails in Canada so whenever I see a heeler with a bobbed tail, I know it came from the USA. Enjoy your new copilot!
@thinkflight
@thinkflight Год назад
Always been a cat person but my neighbors had these and quite honestly it was the only dog I'd ever really wished I'd had after hanging out with theirs for years.
@vertigo2893
@vertigo2893 Год назад
So you add wingtips, maybe later winglets, then make them longer, how about a spar to stiffen the wings,.. at some point you are strapping yourself to a paraglider or even actual mini-glider. So yeah, I can see the point of regulations drawing a line somewhere.
@lockdot2
@lockdot2 Год назад
I saw my house in this video! Lol. I always see those people floating down from the sky here. It seems like a pretty neat sport, but not for me! Lol. Also those hundreds of cops driving down the 15 freeway was going to a location where a cop passed, from a shooting. I saw about 40 cops go down Mission Trail too. And it was on the news. Also, how much did the covers over the wheel hub caps affect the MPG in your MPG tests?
@FPVREVIEWS
@FPVREVIEWS Год назад
PUPPY!!!!!
@_BL4CKB1RD_
@_BL4CKB1RD_ Год назад
What auto-pilot board are you using?
@TiagoTiagoT
@TiagoTiagoT 9 месяцев назад
Would it work to have funnel-like long airfoil arm extensions that are inflated by air collected by intakes along the shoulders? Like, structures sorta like windsocks, but aimed slightly outwards, sorta following the arm lines, so that the airflow hits along a leading edge to make them work like wings, and with some internal strings or stitches or whatever to keep and airfoil shape when inflated?
@shaneskillzrepresent
@shaneskillzrepresent Год назад
Pretty sure the C208B's at Elsinore are running 900hp Texas Turbine Conversions
@thinkflight
@thinkflight Год назад
Don't know about the hp but yes, they were Texas Turbines
@DieCastoms
@DieCastoms Год назад
I would just like to say ... My Amazon Echo went absolutely nuts while listening to this video . . . . . :P
@oaw117
@oaw117 Год назад
That's why I switched to Google. Alexa annoyed the crap out of me
@Termuellinator
@Termuellinator Год назад
Impressive what such small changes can do. Hopefully the new regulations won't hinder that innovation!
@EJ-74
@EJ-74 Год назад
Very interesting 👍🏻
@gaoyizhou6727
@gaoyizhou6727 9 месяцев назад
May I ask which autopilot board you used? Thanks.
@AerialWaviator
@AerialWaviator Год назад
Another fascinating aerodynamics topic and study. As far as FAI is concerned, does a wing suit need to be flexible, or are rigid variants allowed? Would be interesting to construct a rigid scale model of the pose at 1:21 for wind tunnel, or inflight tests. Determining best L/D, or minimum sink rate probably was not possible before you began collecting data from with flight recorder. Noticed at 9:13, in the duration run, it appears the wing suit stalled as neared the bottom floor of the duration window, cutting off 1-2 seconds of flight time. Wondering if a leading edge slate made of fabric would help lower the stall speed, or allow a bit increased angle of attack. Probably only need ~foot inboard to test as wing has washout, and being inboard would reduce any roll tendencies. Aerodynamics related to the helmet would be another interesting area to study. Are cone heads allowed? If a more pointy top works for Starships, it may work for wing suit pilots too.
@AlexGalda
@AlexGalda Год назад
Some rigid elements are allowed, but the wingspan of a wingsuit will be severely limited moving forward, completely banning any span extensions, rigid or flexible.
@antoinelaporte9335
@antoinelaporte9335 10 месяцев назад
I looked to all this stuff as some friends of mine were at the competition but mostly because I'm designing my own wingsuits with extentions since 2015 in the BASE enviroment. I have to say that the first thing that comes to my mind was that with the normal way of pitching that kind of extention are causing too much problems. There have been way too much safety canopy deployment because of them, and IMO they should not have been allowed during competition at first. Also saying that if there is too much trouble you have the AAD is weird, the AAD is supposed to be there for problems you did not expect, not for problems you expect... The new regulation is banishing extentions, it's done, and I think it's normal for safety reasons. That said I would have loved to have a new category like "prototypes" to have people continue to experiment, but it needs an other deployment system to make it safer (I'm using one). I think extentions are a good way to increase suits performances, my latest homemade wingsuit has performances at least similar any manufacturer's wingsuit on the market (in Glide and Starts) which is mainly due IMO to the extentions.
@AlexGalda
@AlexGalda 10 месяцев назад
Hi Antoine, thanks for your comment. I was indeed inspired by prior work on span extensions including yours when designing this. And I definitely had some difficulties with deployment on my first prototypes last year, but they have all been resolved within 20-30 jumps. I have adjusted my deployment technique and made some minor suit alterations to allow for an easier pull and have not had issues since (200+ jumps). I do agree that such span extensions are not recommended for the BASE environment, and would strongly urge people not to use them outside of skydiving. The 5-10% performance improvement in glide ratio is not worth the added risk, in my opinion.
@antoinelaporte9335
@antoinelaporte9335 10 месяцев назад
​@@AlexGalda the 5-10% worth the R&D for sure and it's nice to see people trying, there is so much room for trying new things in the wingsuit world.
@scottcates
@scottcates Год назад
Well done! Embrace human flight. -Blue Skies
@kingmasterlord
@kingmasterlord Год назад
this is your wingsuit progress, rest of humanity? fine, I'll step in.
@ezearo
@ezearo 11 месяцев назад
What are the moverio glasses used for?
@avonneave2131
@avonneave2131 Год назад
Brilliant
@rjung_ch
@rjung_ch Год назад
👍💪✌ Very interesting, cheers!
@pierrew1532
@pierrew1532 8 месяцев назад
Pretty cool ! Question : Aside from these guys flying with backpack jet powered fixed wings, did someone try to build some actual backpack folding wings ? Like, pretty much like how the Tomcat F-14 fighters goes from sub to supersonic, same kind of layout, but between more extreme positions, like between near straight, glider-like flight position, to fully folded, dragonfly/flagged position ? Would face many technical challeges of course but it looks like the natural follow up to wing suits, that are inherently limited by the shape of human body, right ?
@AlexGalda
@AlexGalda 8 месяцев назад
even fixed wing jetpacks like the Jetman project face huge challenges and continue taking lives of some of the most talented pilots. I think that variable sweep jetpack systems are still very far in the future.
@jeffallen3382
@jeffallen3382 Год назад
The helmet looks like an area that causes a lot drag. I'm not familiar with how these with suits work, but wouldn't working on eliminating that drag help performance? Like how down bobsled racers have aero designed helmets?
@AlexGalda
@AlexGalda Год назад
The problem with that is the long tail on these aero helmets - it may interfere with reserve parachute deployment.
@portnuefflyer
@portnuefflyer Год назад
As a fixed winged pilot for 50 years, I've been following the aero improvements of the suits. What's next, winglets? No, seriously....., VG's maybe?
@AlexGalda
@AlexGalda Год назад
Extensions are better than winglets for improving performance. VGs have also been experimented with :)
@aguyinavan6087
@aguyinavan6087 4 месяца назад
Hi, I'm a machine learnings student at BYU and I am trying to get into the wingsuit community. Does anyone have any recommendations who I can contact or groups to get into? Thanks!
@AlexGalda
@AlexGalda 2 месяца назад
feel free to contact me! :)
@shah9394
@shah9394 Месяц назад
You guys remember like oh 5 years + ago some of the Swiss guys were working on something called the Glorietta hand launch PC system? it was this PC that sat under your right hand and by letting to it ejected away and started deployment of the main. Sorry i can't seem to find a video.....but i recall it being tested and found effective but never put into practice....
@kadmow
@kadmow Год назад
Nice that you (and Alexa) concluded that sweep doesn't help in these flight regimes. - Cessna type Swept tails (ie 152/172/182) are merely for "fashion" giving the stylistic "signature" look of the tailfin - looks faster, while the elevators and wings are straight - a Pilatus Porter works "as well" - in the far subsonic regime. lol... (if anything a swept wing has a lower aspect ratio - more likely a negative effect at low Reynolds numbers - on the other hand - it is all an experiment, thanks for telling the story. Competition rules tends to ruin sports (I prefer scientific advancement without limit) - playing with more YvesRossy-like wings is a better fit for skydiving than BASE (a multi-piece folding wing would be huge... (new sports could emerge.)
@AlexGalda
@AlexGalda Год назад
*Alexey, not Alexa :)
@lohikarhu734
@lohikarhu734 Год назад
yea, hard questions...if they allow 'extensions', what will be allowed, what will be the limit, what will be a 'wingsuit', and when will it become a 'strap-on glider'? It's hard to innovate, and run up against 'ethics', or 'rules' , or "what is the sport?"
@mojoneko8303
@mojoneko8303 Год назад
What's the glide ratio on a wing suit? I can't imagine it's very high. My Para-glider was around 8/1.
@thinkflight
@thinkflight Год назад
About 4/1
@sean2074
@sean2074 Год назад
​@@thinkflight it's as good as the space shuttle!
@ProfPoindexter1968
@ProfPoindexter1968 Год назад
@@sean2074 They can land a space shuttle. So why can't you land a wing suit?
@vertigo2893
@vertigo2893 Год назад
​@@ProfPoindexter1968 The space shuttle landed at 200+ mph. Probably not a good idea without wheels. But if you google you will find a crazy guy actually "landing" a wingsuit on a giant pile of cardboard boxes.
@nanaba9027
@nanaba9027 Год назад
6:37 classic csl moment :)
@blakkpatron
@blakkpatron Год назад
Surprised not more people are adapting the wingtip pouch
@AlexGalda
@AlexGalda Год назад
it is detrimental for wingsuit performance.
@PureBloodWNC
@PureBloodWNC Год назад
What altitudes are the records from and down to? I have flights well above his records, so I am assuming that he’s not recording from 15k to 3.5k. The FAI rules must be something like a timer from 12k to 7k or something?
@thinkflight
@thinkflight Год назад
2500m to 1500m
@PureBloodWNC
@PureBloodWNC Год назад
@@thinkflight thank you! That makes a lot more safety sense. Great video BTW. Neat insights into a small subsection of an already small group of people.
@ArjunPatel-hi5eq
@ArjunPatel-hi5eq 6 месяцев назад
You should make a wingsuit company
@planespeaking
@planespeaking Год назад
Cool video. I bet these get banned though or width limited at best.
@robertsmontgomery1404
@robertsmontgomery1404 Год назад
Thanks!
@thinkflight
@thinkflight Год назад
Thank YOU!
@robertsmontgomery1404
@robertsmontgomery1404 Год назад
@@thinkflight Love what you’re doing.😜🤙👍👍
@keithdolezel488
@keithdolezel488 Год назад
Next project.. Canards on his helmet :)
@thinkflight
@thinkflight Год назад
And a tail on his feet :)
@olsonspeed
@olsonspeed Год назад
The Kasperwing hang gliders and ultralights have employed wingtip rudder/stabilizers successfully. I expect your wing extensions will sadly be outlawed as are many racing bicycle developments, typical behavior in competitive sports and a detriment to performance improvements.
@AlexGalda
@AlexGalda Год назад
you are correct
@OzAndyify
@OzAndyify Год назад
Yep. But even one death makes a competition not fun.
@elaineinmaine7971
@elaineinmaine7971 Год назад
Try L/o\_| shaped winglet like modern passenger airplane winglets
@DieCastoms
@DieCastoms Год назад
I have to wonder if that was a funeral procession for a member of law enforcement ...?
@anthonystownsend
@anthonystownsend Год назад
Just awesome, but I'm curious about what was blurred out? New flight controller design?
@AlexGalda
@AlexGalda Год назад
Something else that I didn't want my competitors to see ;)
@anthonystownsend
@anthonystownsend Год назад
@@AlexGalda it's an EDF isn't it ;)
@AlexGalda
@AlexGalda Год назад
@@anthonystownsend hahaha
@mitchellquinn
@mitchellquinn Год назад
Fascinating video, thank you. Also really enjoyed your truss braced wing mothership video - the hours of effort that went into it were obvious - fantastic job. But ... and I really hate to say it ... I was really disappointed with Brilliant ... I bought it for myself for my birthday last year, and I've been really underwhelmed. 😐
@thinkflight
@thinkflight Год назад
I'm sorry to hear that :(
@SoloRenegade
@SoloRenegade Год назад
turbine converted Cessna? I've never heard of a non-turboprop Cessna caravan before.
@OnerousEthic
@OnerousEthic Год назад
IMHO The wing tip should emulate endoskeletal bird feathers rather than exoskeletal aircraft. You want to reduce wing loading, and you don’t care so much about the infusion. I recommend you construct a wingtip with real bird feathers or artificial equivalents. It should flex like a bird wing, rather than be stiff. Think of it this way: you want to move a lot of air a little bit, rather than a little of air a lot.
@AlexGalda
@AlexGalda Год назад
I like your idea but don't forge that we fly at speeds exceeding 300km/h on every jump when diving out of an airplane. The design needs to be extremely robust an snag-free for safe parachute deployment.
@marc_frank
@marc_frank Год назад
well, F1 bans most exciting innovations i'd guess that's what will happen here, too
@thinkflight
@thinkflight Год назад
Probably
@joehopfield
@joehopfield Год назад
Competition and records in a technical sport like this seem silly if they're not about pushing technology. Safety rules - yes. Elegance / weight rules - maybe. Style points!
@jmrudholm
@jmrudholm Год назад
Check out the latest from DARPA: news.usni.org/2023/02/01/darpa-awards-contracts-for-long-range-liberty-lifter-flying-boat-design?mc_cid=3a77176069&mc_eid=da78f12f8d
@gavinvales8928
@gavinvales8928 Год назад
My uni prof worked on the Icarus project
@AlexGalda
@AlexGalda Год назад
Angelo was a good lad, I've met him at the 2017 World Cup in Nevada.
@ninehundreddollarluxuryyac5958
I loved the RU-vid video with the song "All I Need Is The Air That I Breathe" which is a memorial to all the people who died in wingsuits. Are there any statistics on the number of people who died with a "Red Bull" helmet on their head?
@timgarrett203
@timgarrett203 Год назад
Data!!!😅
@thinkflight
@thinkflight Год назад
Hahaha MOR!
@FirstLast-tx3yj
@FirstLast-tx3yj Год назад
Since the max speed with the wingsuit open is known but at the same time the wingsuit suffers from stall at high angles of attack Will we ever see multi element foil wingsuits? You might say that its absurd and that liwer speed high angle of attack efficiency is irrelevent but isnt this the only way in the DIRECTION of wingsuit landing *without parachute*??
@thinkflight
@thinkflight Год назад
Maybe, but not for a competition where maximum speed is a factor.
@FirstLast-tx3yj
@FirstLast-tx3yj Год назад
@@thinkflight yes that case has to be optimized for distance. I agree
@jerrodbeck1799
@jerrodbeck1799 Год назад
Paris lake👌🏻
@tommartens3731
@tommartens3731 Год назад
You can build a suit using the Feather configuration that Burt Rutan designed for space ship one and two. Now you will be floating down instead of falling! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-AqhQIOr299w.html The optimum angle of the wings was 15 degrees. Good luck!
@AlexGalda
@AlexGalda Год назад
No, you will be falling even faster, that creates so much drag! It was designed for high drag and stability, not higher glide or lower sink rate.
@Avianthro
@Avianthro Год назад
How about really trying to push the envelope? A bird-wing-like/scissor folding mechanism strapped to the back with some high AR C-fiber wings spanning about 3m? If it's double birdlike articulated, maybe even 5 m? Ahh, if only we had a grant from Elon.
@SoloRenegade
@SoloRenegade Год назад
Banning wingsuit performance innovations would be a BAD idea.
@thinkflight
@thinkflight Год назад
Turns out that is the direction the FAI went though.
@SoloRenegade
@SoloRenegade Год назад
@@thinkflight figures they would.
@orderlyhippo1569
@orderlyhippo1569 Год назад
@@SoloRenegade Probably for safety/more stable suits.
@rex8255
@rex8255 Год назад
The innovations are awesome! However, the "The FAI has passed new regulations..." . Please, don't let this turn into a "Lawyers Championship" like Formula 1 racing is.
@thinkflight
@thinkflight Год назад
People love their rules :)
@proinseasokiellig4388
@proinseasokiellig4388 Год назад
Innovate!
@relaxingnature2617
@relaxingnature2617 Год назад
the wings are too small -- make them 3x longer and disposable / biodegradable / jetosinable
@ginocastro5107
@ginocastro5107 5 месяцев назад
Definitely lacks narration comfort! Very difficult to listen to your monotone, emotionless feel and robotic speech. Maybe awareness of punctuation in narration would help. You don't need to say a full paragraph in one breath! Pace the thoughts, breathe and don't rush to say it all in one sentence. Or hire someone else to re-write your material and do the voice over from a third person perspective since you won't be the one describing everything. The topic material is very interesting though!
@Poppy_love59
@Poppy_love59 Год назад
Pretty soon these wingsuits will be the same as a glider, so I'm against it!
@ginocastro5107
@ginocastro5107 10 месяцев назад
Your narration of your videos is annoying! You better hire a proper voice over. Your material is very interesting, but your reading from a page as if there are no punctuations is too harsh to listen to!
@larryphillips4164
@larryphillips4164 Год назад
Epic
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