Quebec ban on electric mopeds on roads, sidewalks and bike paths 

Less and less freedom every day.

Another attack on low hanging fruit. I don't live in Quebec, but my handicap sister in-law uses something similar to get around and go to her health care aid job in our province. She feels such a sense of freedom from being able to have her own mobility. Couldn't imagine how she would feel if it was taken away.

Those are motorcycles and should be following road rules just like gas motorcycles. They basically reach vehicle distances too

Banning from sidewalks and multi-use paths - sure, but why roads? We have 3 tonne cars driving around at 70km/h and it's fine, but 100kg at 32km/h is too dangerous? If we all switch from cars to mopeds there would be way less crashes and injuries.

I thought they were already banned from bike paths and bike lanes in the Quebec safety code. I see them on bike paths all the time and, as a cyclist myself, they’re really annoying, take up a lot of space and can be dangerous in the event of a collision with a cyclist or pedestrian because of how heavy they are. I don’t believe they should be illegal, but they should be regulated like other scooters and driven on the road, following safety rules, just like any scooter or moped.

To be honest the reason they are doing this is because the insurance companies see a market for new policies. The government wants it for taxes and fees. So its a win win for both groups.

An electric bicycle passed me doing 50kph. If you think manufacturers are restricting the speeds these things can reach your wrong! They are dangerous and have no business sharing a path used by pedestrians or non-powered bicycles.

The bad riders; going faster than others on the road/path/sidewalk, cutting close to others as you pass or not sticking to their side of the path, or not slowing or stopping for ped crosses etc (basic rider etiquette) made it bad for all riders. Sadly those bad riders haven't a clue about how bad they are. So here we are with laws to get them off the road. Drive responsibly!

In the future, we will even pay taxes for the air we breathe.

By the logic of this, why aren't cars banned?

Don't always agree with Quebec politics, but this one. Big thumbs up. I drove in Vancouver fro a number of years and these were an absolute hazard on the roadways and sidewalks.

They should pay for a registration and a license plate regardless if it is electric. They should also drive it properly. I've seen people on these things going through traffic , jumping on sidewalks back onto the street,crossing like a pedestrian. Its getting out of hand.

Foreign students get them to save money? Some of them cost $5000! And they go too fast. If you want them on the road they should be licensed and insured like 150cc scooters. They are NOT bicycles. I’ve see several me in Ontario that are like small cars. Those need to be banned too.

These governments aren’t really serious about green solutions to transportation. Escooters are banned on roadways almost everywhere in the world. I use my escooter riding around suburban areas but anyone considering buying one to use for city commuting should check city regulations before purchasing.

I am an ex-Montrealer and cyclist. Here in Toronto we are bombarded with these electrical motorcycles on our bike paths and sidewalks exceeding the 20 km/h speed limit. The government should have them banned from bike paths and have them licensed and insured like all motor cycles in all provinces.

"unregistered" seems to be the keyword here. Which means the government wants their cut.

TBH I wouldnt drive these in Quebec's streets. Those drivers are crazy.

Canada is so so far behind in public transport or transport in general. they just want everyone to drive cars, pay insurance, pay parking fine/fees. they don't want to adapt to new technology or transportation ideas. 1 person drive 1 car and create long line traffic is the way to go.

License and registration should be mandatory

OK, so how many people have been injured by these Electric Bikes that have a Top Speed of 30KMH ? An Athletic person can maintain 32 KPH on a Pedal Bike, anyway.

Too incompetent to allow the ability to add registration and plates just like any other vehicles. I can buy a car that goes 330km/h but big deal for a little bike already capped at 32km/h. RIDICULOUS! Why do we pay half our salaries in taxes again?

What is missing is SAAQ guidance on plating electric mopeds. There used to be an ability to plate above 500W and ride with a 6D scooter permit.

I own one of these. The speed is limited to 32km/h. I literally go faster than that with my bicycle and I am not a professional athlete by any means. Yes there are a lot heavier than ordinary bicycles, but not that much heavier than a cargo E-bike which are perfectly legal for use on the bike path. Yes there are bad actors that use them on sidewalk and people notice that more because these things are new to our urban landscape. So shall we ban cars because of all the bad drivers that go above the speed limit, drive through red lights and stop signs, cause accidents from distracted driving??? Bear in mind that more people die annually and even more injured in this country and province from car collisions than even violent crimes. You are literally more than 100 times likely to be killed and injured daily by a car, than by one of these. Not surprised at all coming from the incompetent Québec government!

What a joke. These vehicles are very affordable, practicle and leave a smaller footprint. City transit will never offer the freedom people need in their lives.

They are not bikes, they are vehicles, and should not be in bike lanes or on sidewalks. They shouldn't be banned, however they should be treated as any other vehicle and law needs to enforce their proper use.

Thought Trudeau was pushing for less carbon/emissions and ending gas vehicles. Not everyone can walk or bike 15 km. I am disabled with permit but my handicap scooter doesn’t go far enough or long enough. E bike would be a great upgrade. Are e bikes under attack too?

In US they have different classes for these electric vehicles. So the more powerful ones goes on the roads. Canada is so far behind on electric vehicles. Taking the easy way.

I can sort of see the argument against riding these on mixed use bike paths and sidewalks. These aren't very fast (certainly not fast enough to be used in regular traffic lanes on the road) but they are quite a bit heavier than a bicycle or e-bike. However, I cannot see why these shouldn't be used in regular bike lanes on the road. The way we regulate these new vehicles never seem to involve physics or common sense. I feel so sorry for the shop owners that are stuck with inventory. I have a feeling there will be a backlash and that this will not stand.

And we wonder why we're in the housing crisis when people are occupying their time with trivial things like this

It's all about the money they aren't making off of them.

My main complaint is they are too quiet. I have several times nearly been run over by them, or hit them on my bike because they move to fast and you never hear them. The users seem oblivious to the danger they create.

Funny how we pay carbon tax to make the environment but they band electric bikes... smh.. makes no sense

Please keep them on the road! Taking them off is very backwards thinking.

Six days ago I got *hit by a cyclist* on a shared path. I am recovering, in physio, working hard & will be ok. *NOT against sharing with bikes. But an e-moped? No.* I shudder wondering what would happen if I got hit by one. Maybe only on a road and only if it can get to 60 km/h.

I thought the future was “going green”? Police need to enforce unsafe riding-issue tickets. Don’t ban them altogether because that punishes the good riders too-the ones that take safety seriously and ride responsibly.

I support the ban because they're too fast and dangerous for sidewalks. ☹️👎

These e-mopeds were designed with barely functional cranks and pedals, so they could be classified as bicycles, instead of a motor vehicle (which is what they are). The attitudes of the riders certainly didn't help the situation either. I own an e-bike, and I'm fully aware that every time I go for a ride that I become an ambassador for all e-bike riders. When I approach pedestrians on a shared pathway, I'm mindful to slow TF down, and give people space. No one likes being buzzed at high speeds by inconsiderate riders. Besides, if the thing you're riding has a throttle, it's really not a hassle to get up to speed again.

They ride on the bike lane at very fast which is dangerous

It's a wonder the national AUTO insurance company doesn't want to take space from cars to make micromobility safer, with larger lanes and thus accommodating to all. Really antiquated governments we have here. And Vélo Québec, Shame on you.

Good luck with that lil man.

I agree. Scooters and electric scooters are to fast. Plus I find that there’s no respect for others

Crazy to ban them. They should just limit max speed and treat them like bicycles. I ride a bicycle and have never had a problem riding near electric moped.

There are far too many uninsured electric type vehicles (skate boards, scooters, bicycles, etc...) on our roads. It is quite expensive to repair scratches and dents in our cars. When one of these uninsured scooters etc... collides with a motor vehicle, through no fault of the motor vehicle driver, who pays for the damage. If we need to share the road then everyone using the road should be required to have insurance.

There are some disrespectful people driving too fast with these vehicles on bike paths sidewalks I had to punch a guy in the face about six months ago😮

They should be treated like regular motorbike. Legal on the regular roads, except maybe highways, with the appropriate licences. Banning everything in one fell swoop with no recourse is short-sighted.

"IF YOU AGREE TO BEND TO ANOTHER'S WILL OR TO LEAVE TO ANOTHER'S DISCRETION THEN YOU ARE IN CONTRACT WITH THEM. IN ORDER FOR IT TO BE VOLUNTARY OR LAWFUL IT NEEDS TO BE VOLUNTARY.

Good for Quebec. These things are motorised traffic and should never be on cyclepaths or pavements/sidewalks irrespective of power source. Its worrying that some folk seem to think the 'e' means they're safe.

Electric motorbikes can be licensed if they meet certain regulatory requirements similar to gasoline motorbikes. Also, pedal assist bikes, where you must pedal in order to accelerate, are not banned on the bike paths. What is very dangerous and increasingly prevalent (before the ban) is high powered electric scooters and bikes going up to 50km/hr on the bike path and passing cyclists from behind, often small children. The ban is a good idea. Even with the class 6D requirement in Quebec, one sees that many are using electric scooters and mopeds without any training or a helmet, as required by law.

One day Quebec will get it right and separate from Canada and free the rest of the country from its stupidity 😂

This is all politics, we are tired of this politics in our life ... Who is taking those decisions without public consultation? What's next?

Good. Now Ontario follow

I'm 71 . I used to ride my bicycle 10 km to lake Ontario using a bicycle path a few times a week but got too dangerous with all the electric mopeds speeding ! I had a few close calls ! I hope they are outlawed in Ontario also ! If I'm 71 and can still pedal you can too ! By the looks of most Canadian's you could use some exercise ! The food banks are empty and desperate and another cruel winter for the homeless will be here soon ! Many will perish without food !

Simple solution. Order your food and go pick it up. Saves restaurant 30% in fees

Not surprised. Most idiotic rules and polititians in Canada comes from QC.

It's coming to Ontario

stu plate, ma pas pleurer quand c'est en grande majorité des immigrants qui viennent prendre les seuls logements abordables des étudiants québécois.

This type of vehicle has no place in THE NORTH. This country has 5 to 6 months of consistent snow, -20 even -30 C degree winters. Keep your toys in the little southern countries in Europe.

What happened to going “green” ? I know who they’re targeting with this one 😂😂😂

They should be legal but only the ones with pedals. And they should teach people how to ride a bike, e-bike and e-scooter. That way cyclists will drive more responsibly, car drivers will feel safer around bikes and accidents will surely be avoided. But register an electric moped and pay a plate for it? COME ON! It should be an option, not imposed. Oh and too fast? I see a lot of road bike users speeding around kids, and they don't have e-assist. It's all about how you behave, and clearly we're lacking it in Quebec (and probably Canada too).

I’m not from canada or from quebec but I think is fair they are more similar to motorcycles than electric bicycles they should be roads but not outlawed

It's called a sideWALK for a reason. Pedestrians have enough problems with motorists already.

It’s about time. Ontario needs the same. Very unsafe Can’t even hear them until it’s too late👍🏼✌🏼

This is a conspiracy to force the purchase of EV automobiles by banning moped this is your next option at ten times the price. I am surprised that they did not ban two wheel scooters.

Ontario needs to follow!

GOOD way to force you into buying a car

The bad apple users are the one to be blamed for. Electric going 35-45 kph on bike lane is not acceptable. Just look at how these guys ride in the video, taking over the whole 2 bike lanes.

Guys the bottom line id were gonna pay taxes and insurance for everything ...its what legault and big companies want us to do regardless what car, bike or motorcyvle we ride.

Lots of Electric Problems.... around my neighbourhood it is the electric kid skateboard scooters that can go 50kph... what is all that about??? All of these devices will be banned you get pedal power or Insurance and a License and a roadworthy vehicle. Same as the rest of us. Equity is a Two way street.

Insurance companies hate anything they can't force to pay them for a policy.

Finally!! Bravo!!

just make it registered where you have to pay for it - a tesla needs a liscense plate why do these not need one?

NATO Counter-Mobility Operations. Guilbault in the same family as Westley Clark (Shah of Iran family). Goals : to Impoverish citizens, reduce mobility, obstruct roads with unnecessary work, encourage deterioration of infrastructure. Limit range and distance covered. Prevent inter-regional travel, protests and political contestations of the government. Questions need to be asked: the SAAQ mess, the lost data, the false papers and passports issued to possible fraudsters (government officials and administrators involved in fraud and on the run abroad having changed their identities). Desjardins accounts that have been mysteriously altered, "allegedly" as a result of hacking, but more likely by insiders. The sudden expansion of AirBNB (0$ to 65 billions in few years), which is used to lodge foreigners from other countries, or which allows fugitives (high ranking officials) wanted internationally to escape for fraud commited against the public treasury.

I wish Ontario would do the same.

I'm fine as long as they are not on the bike paths. The problem is the mindset that once you ride one you can be riding all over the place: sidewalks, roads, bike paths... Banning from roads doesn't make any sense, that's a Canadian government mindset of being dictatorial as usual.

It’s great that people are using electric scooters instead of gas cars, but they’re more like Vespas than bikes in weight and speed and should be treated and ridden accordingly.

As stated, many are international students. The problem is, rules aren't being followed. Watch a video of driving habits in India, and you'll see what I'm getting at

Why allow gas scooters and motorcycles on the roads but not electric? It doesn't make any sense

If you don't have money to study in Canada, then just study in your own country.

I support this ban. Smaller and lighter alternatives like e-assist pedal bikes can be encouraged. Rad has cargo bikes too. I have seen students door dash on regular bikes in urban centers, so tried tested alternatives do exist. The so called e-mopeds banned here are essentially motor vehicles, with pedals slapped on them to pass as pedal bikes. Intent seems "If we design so, we evade the rules". Designers/sellers/buyers definitely understand the intent is using as a motor vehicle. These are heavy, big and certainly powerful enough to become a safety concern on bike paths and especially side walks. Reckless riding is another matter, which would make any vehicle on any path a concern.

In Vancouver you see the electric scooters doing 20 km on sidewalks, even around blind corners. Its just a matter of time before pedestrian injuries from idiot electric riders spike

They’re a hazard for pedestrians.

If we re-elect Legault we will deserve this. Liberals all the way next election, they aren't ridiculous fascists. We just built miles and miles of bike paths for nothing lol..well done.

They have electric mopeds for a long time. All of a sudden they are banned? If most ppl are safe driving it shouldn't be a problem. Ppl are using electronic bikes these days.

Ontario needs to do the same

QQ Good riddance to these unlicensed and uninsured vehicles.

Good news.. They have a motor and must be regulated as such.. Motora of any kind mean it must meet safety regulations. This is basic logic..

The Province banned them because they can't make money off them because they are not registered. And the insurance lobby also doesn't make any money because they are unregistered

If the seat us adjustable then it's legal. Time to make some mods. Ps. Thank God what happens in Quebec stays in Quebec

Those things are not any different from cargo bikes: same weight and speed

Put a wieght limit on the bicycles can use the path. That fixes most of it. Even many e-bikes are behemoths. Pretty much small electric motorcycles without fairings to dress them up.

Comme d'habitude, le "Wernement" a improvisé! Aucune réflection sur le "quand" et "comment"... de plus toutes lois présentées pendant l'été, sont faites pour éviter que la population "chaile" puisqu'ils sont occupés ailleurs (vacance). Encore un "fonctionnaire" en soif de pouvoir.

“I don’t know what i will do in the future”. Maybe grow up and get a car

Great for bicycles but now get rid of the Carbon Tax so then can use a car ...wow how about that

Now I have to pay for fuel and insurance to get to work.Bye bye pay check.

Set speed, size, and weight limits?

I suspect E Bikes will be next on the list. World seems bent on going electric but not so inclusive in the end.

What a surprise I was wondering when these vultures we're gonna do this...they are not gonna be happy until they tax every aspect of our lives,.... safety has little to do with it, its about the money.....nothing but parasites

i hope my electric scooter legal. its a small foldable one. i just bough it to save up 50$ a week in public transportation. i beleive it is 500watt. max speed i got was arround 35.

Cars pay to be on the road. So should they

Good. Need this law in Alberta.