I know this is script but her ever smiling mother left her a 4 million debt...quite a royal piggy. Drink, food and parties given in her later years. Her daughter was not like her. I doubt her father was like her mother either.
She always wanted to be queen. Even when the Queen Mother was very young, she was very ambitious and power hungry. She initially tried to seduce Edward VIII aka “David” but he rejected her, so she settled for his brother. Margaret and Elizabeth were actually conceived through artificial insemination because the Queen Mother hated sex (at least with her husband that is).
@@kcirtapelyk6060the person who made the claim about artificial insemination is well-known for inventing wild tales about the royals in order to sell books. So also claimed that the Queen's great-grandfather was secretly a french cook, and that Princess Diana had an affair with the king of Spain.
My 88 year old grandma called my 65 year old mother a "foolish child" for selling her favorite teapot at a garage sale 2 weeks ago. "You know how I bring it out every time I entertain people I LIKE. This teapot was a symbol to others that I liked them. That their company was welcome. My friends revered the teapot. I will NEVER find another with a goose design like this. They stopped making them in 1959 I'VE LOOKED" wish I was kidding. But I thought of this scene for some reason after that dressing down
It is said, by people who worked for the royal family, that the Queen mother controlled everyone. And that Elizabeth II became more "informal" after the Queen Mother passed away. 😂😂
Did any of those people happen to confirm whether the Queen ever actually felt sad about Diana dying? As opposed to being glad to be rid of an ever increasing problem for them?
Thats how it goes with all monarchies...every generation becomes more relaxed until eventually the monarchy becomes obsolete and fades away....it takes vigilance and constant maintenance to remain relevant. People born rich dont understand the sacrifices of the generations before to get them to that point and slowly allows apathy to take over. All of it is good in my opinion, monarchies are relics of the past
@@sew_gal7340 every generation has had younger people being anti-monarchists. Cant remember the study but as brits grow up, they come to appreciate the idea of a politically stable and neutral head of state amidst changing prime ministers. As such, absolute monarchies are indeed relics of the past Slimmed down monarchies are the best way forward.
@@darthkahn45 Diana dying was awful for the monarchy. It, ironically, immortalized her. If she'd grown old, lost her looks and made increasingly vacuous remarks and basically demonstrated that she was, at her core, a bit thick (she failed her O levels TWICE) everyone would have gone off her. But dead she was forever the people's princess.
@@sew_gal7340just because monarchies used to exist in the past doesn't mean they shouldn't in present, for the precise reason of it's adaptability and function have they survived in present, and we should keep them as it is. Not everything of the past needs to be done away with
Tell me about it. A couple of years ago my 90 year old mother dressed me down like a ten year old for installing a shelf in her hall linen closet without consulting her first.
@@AmyWarriorPrincess I feel your pain. I guess all you can do is roll your eyes behind her back. Right back to High School days. Oh well, as long as we can laugh at it.
My mum does this a lot, unfortunately. Thankfully, my husband comes to my defense when I argue back. I don't recall my grandmother ever doing this to my mum, but I've heard horror stories of my great-grandmother being this way.
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@@dannylynch6891 They are family? Elizabeth loves her mother? Queen mother respects Philip as her own son??? Start looking into their history Mr.Burns
I think she felt that she had to be extra strong and forceful so often that once things cooled, she didn't know how to stop. Add upper class snobbery into the mix and you have a dangerous situation
The Queen Mother was of the old school; and had wise words to give -- and be respected. However, Queen Elizabeth looked to the future -- and saw the monarchy for what it was, an institution *allowed* by the people, not one of simple might and the historical fiefdom. Queen Elizabeth was indeed divinely inspired -- but not in the say the Queen Mother believed; Queen Elizabeth was *inspired* by the Divine; not a claimant of it. The monachy and the Crown was indeed, her birthright, but one given by a gracious people. God rest you, Your Majesty. And thank you.
i hate how she didn’t have enough screen time for seasons 5 and 6. she was indeed a hidden antagonist in the plot but they failed going steady with that like what they did with seasons 1 to 4.
I think they barely used her season 3 and 4. Other than the episode with the secret cousins, I don't remember her doing much except smiling in the back of scenes. She was well known for her wit and day-drinking, and could have been a great comic relief character.
@@chasef89 Well one major role she had was in season 3, the plot where she arranged Camilla to be married to Andrew Parker Bowles which ended Charles and Camilla's hidden relationship.
Not that I disagree with you, but the concepts of deserving, public opinion, and fairness have no place in an institution like monarchy. They get what they get because either they were born into or by marriage. No king or Queen ever got the throne because they deserved it, even if they were good people.
@@romanikkoralph1553Like 3/4th of the Europe at that time? She belonged to a different generation. She was born when Queen Victoria was in power. Stop judging ppl on today’s perspectives.
Primarily she was a woman respected for her sense of duty and support. When WW2 started in 1939 "there was some suggestion that the Queen and her daughters should evacuate to North America or Canada. To this the Queen made her famous reply: 'The children won't go without me. I won't leave the King. And the King will never leave." Hitler called her "the most dangerous woman in Europe".
If this was true, the queen mother had no business trying to tell a monarch/queen regnant (a queen in her own right) how to conduct herself. The queen mother was never a monarch; just the spouse of one. She ultimately had never held that responsibility. By this point, the Queen had been queen for much longer than the queen mother was on the throne with her husband. At this stage, the Queen had been queen for almost 50 years. The queen mother was only Queen (the spouse of the King) for 16 years.
Mother is mother at the end of the day. Doesn’t matter who you are or what you do. But, the Queen Mother still knew what it meant to be a monarch. As consort, she not only stood alongside the King, but but helped guide and advise him. She was a major figure throughout World War II. She knew the English people.
@@corydestein3160I am sure she was wise and influential figure in her time but now she was completely out of touch with modern English society and didn't understand the modern values and needs of new generation. That's why she should have mind her own business and let the monarch do her duty. The current generation don't even believe in God anymore what's makes her think that they would believe in the divinity of their monarch.
@@kapilshastryshe was just like Mary of Teck. The Crown is the Crown, it supersedes all else. When you put the crown on your are transfigured to being above everyone else. So lesser people shouldn’t be made aware of how you feel. Protect the crown at all cost. It was an archaic tradition. One that Queen Elizabeth gladly put down finally. But I totally understand where Queen Mother and Mary of Teck come from. They are just part of the old world. They were of nobility and Royality before both their marriages. So it’s just something passed down
@@intellectualmind9512the Queen mother although archaic held her own kind of wisdom when she advised her daughter to conceal her emotions rather than display them outright. I think I understand where she was coming from!
I once heard that the Queen Mother, when she was visiting someone else's house and saw a piece of furniture she liked, would make a point of saying so and wouldn't leave till it was offered to her.
@@falconeshieldin 1997, that moron Tony Blair took Britannia and refused to replace it. He played up his people's princess schtick. Now: Her Late Majesty is as much loved in death as she was in life. Blair? Despised and best forgotten.
I am an element of profound admiration for what gracious and late Queen Elizabeth did in regards of Her Annus Horribilis. Still she remained as divine as ever along her long tenure as a servant. Bravo !
As if Her Maj needed her mum's advice after nearly 40 years on the throne. I know how much she loved her mother, but the Queen Mother was happy to dip her oar in wherever she wasn't wanted.
That’s why the RF couldn’t rid of the Victorian norms until Queen Mother’s death. Queen literally earned her complete autonomy after her mother’s death. Her mother had always been her advisor and she always got influenced by her mother’s opinions.
@@fahimfaisalmahir567I just wondered if from reading your response here, this is maybe at least part of the reason why the Queen never gave up her reign while she was alive for Charles to take over. She knew from both sides what it was like to have a previous monarch not fully able to relinquish their role, and how difficult it would be for King Charles to still have his mother the former queen alive during the beginning of his reign. She understood how hard it would be on them both from this kind of experience.
@@Loulizabeth British Monarchs do not generally abdicate. It is a taboo for them. Abdication breaks the very solemn oath they pledged before God when they were crowned. If they are unfit to work, they declare a regency and the regent performs the duty on behalf of the monarch. And there are 6 counsellors of state as well who take up the duties of the monarch in their absence. That's why in Queen's older days, most of her duties were performed by King Charles, Queen Camilla, William and Kate.
@@fahimfaisalmahir567 Thanks for that. I'm actually from Britain. I guess the media just didn't make that clear enough during her reign. In fact you had so many people in the media talking about why the Queen should step aside to allow Charles to have a longer reign, that I think there were possibly quite a few people not really knowing what the actual situation really was. Surely this should have been talked about more in the media to help people know what the real situation was.
Totally out of touch with real life. Interesting to think how different it might have been if she had not lived to be over a hundred. No one dared do anything without asking her permission. She had to be pandered to. Several others of her generation like Princess Mary and Princess Marina did not live to a great age, despite also being widowed young. I think she played on it all her life and used as a stick to beat David and Wallis with.
In Jamaica, my Dad called his mother Mummy. When my mother was dying in 1991, I reverted to calling her Mummy. Who cares what you call them? Not everyone has to be the same.
It's always baffled me that the queen mother was reputed to be such a snob with her background. Her lineage/background is beneath that of a typical spouse of a monarch. Usually, spouses of monarchs are royal: princesses and princes. While her background was respectable since her family was aristocratic, it was beneath that of all other spouses of monarchs. She was not royal. I've also noted that she seemed to put on the biggest show with her waves and hand flourishes, which I never found to be dignified. No one else in the family waved in that manner. It has always seemed to me that she had something to prove and that being "queen-like" was something she had to put on.
Of course she had to put on a show to prove herself as real queen because she never would have imagined in her wildest dreams that one day she will become the future queen consort of England as she was a noble lady from a humble aristocrat family background who was married to a disabled spare prince.
She married the spare, not the heir, she was never supposed to be Queen Consort. Also by the 1920s the custom of marrying other royals was beginning to die out because WWI had wiped out a great deal of European monarchies. And again the wave she gave was actually how royals did wave in the earlier parts of the 20th century. You will see Queen Mary had the same wave.
Yes I've always found it odd she looked down on Philip who was more royal by birth than her or even Elizabeth was (because of the Queen mother's lineage). She really was a piece of work.
I loved H.M. Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother. However, that being said...sometimes she acted like a bit of an "Ostrich ". She was basically acting the way Her Late Majesty Queen Mary did as well...previously
The queen mother was the definition of an iron fist in a velvet glove. She was a horrible woman, who loved the privilege she had and never wanted to lose it. When her daughter became queen in 1952, the queen mother didn't want to move out of Buckingham Palace. She had so much arrogance, and fooled so many British people over decades who thought she was a sweet old granny. A great con job.
@@user-wi6cz4hh5bI always heard she was a bit thick. Part of Elizabeth's later problem with her came down to the simple fact that she felt like Diana wasn't with the boys as much as she should have been after the divorce, though ultimately, the whole relationship was just quite complicated
@@fahimfaisalmahir567 so as the representation of God in the mortal realm, you protect an uncle who was a known pedophile (Lord Mountbatten) and protect a family friend who was a massive pedophile (Jimmy Savile)? Please tell me that you recognize the hypocrisy here? How about the countless illegitimate children and affairs the monarchs have had, but they can do it because they’re the “representation of God”?
@@Westy0311Jimmy Saville was much more friend with British parliamentarians than the members of RF. Lord Mountbatten was allegedly a pedophile. Nothing had been proved in the court of law. Why didn’t UK court punish them when they were alive? RF doesn’t yield political power and so they wouldn’t be able to protect them from punishment.
The casting decision for the queen mother in these last 2 seasons needs studying. She looks absolutely nothing like her and sounds absolutely nothing like her. I have no idea what they were thinking.
When alive The Queen mother consistently had high approval ratings even when even when other Royals were unpopular. Dont forget although based on real events The Crown is fictional
I'm not surprised at the QM's controlling, they got placed in the highest position of the land completely unexpectedly, anyone with that opportunity would do anything to keep it
The queen mum was old generation to a fault. She was born when UK was a empire 1 year after queen Victoria had passed and was queen at the end of the empire. Queen Elizabeth was born during the empire and had be raised and taught to treat her reign as one and then her father changed the empire to commonwealth and now King Charles is the first monarch of the new generation and up to date with the way the times have changed and in the 90s it finally started to be a commonwealth and it only took 53 years for the new way of living to take place and as much as queen mum tried to help and make Elizabeth seem she was divine and she completely was, she was a human. And looking back at 92, she did have a horrible year. Windsor Fire, her children's miserable marriages, the Romanov's mystery, her sister, I don't think she needed to apologize but remind the people she was human too and we make mistakes. I never forget but always forgive.
The Queen Mother has a point in this scene. The speech in the show is a fictional version of the real one, which focuses on thanking the public for their support during her annus horribilis. While it humanizes her, in real life, it would be extremely tone-deaf for the queen to ask forgiveness from her family members in public speeches like that, especially while her subjects are also living in hardship. In reality, it would cause an uproar if the queen addressed such personal matters in a public event, while she could instead apologize for all the past sins of the institution she represents.
I heard that she hated Simpson because she had a thing for Edward VIII, herself and he preferred Wallis Simpson. The idea that she never forgave George 8 for putting her husband in a position that killed him is ludicrous as the man was responsible for smoking himself into lung cancer….
